This is the single biggest problem with African dealers (or is that supposed to be leaders). All they ever think of is the "status", "respect their position DEMANDS". Please ask OBJ what status a thief & murderer has, and what is the image these bunch of broad-daylight thieves have given Africa for more than 50 years. Mubarak should count himself lucky that the people did not lay their hands directly on him.

Let past, present and potential dictators take note.

Quote: "Former President Olusegun Obasanjo on Thursday called for dignified treatment of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, saying as a former head of state, [size=14pt]Mubarak was entitled to personal dignity befitting his status[/size]. Speaking in Mombasa, Kenya, where he is attending the African Leadership Conference, which is to round off on Friday, Obasanjo said the treatment meted to the former Egyptian leader was bad for the image of Africa as a continent.

“Put him in a cage? It is not proper. He deserves a better treatment. This is not good for the image of Africa,” Obasanjo told a gathering of African leaders, including former South African President Thabo Mbeki, and other governance experts gathered for the conference.

By Agency Reporter

Former President Olusegun Obasanjo on Thursday called for dignified treatment of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, saying as a former head of state, Mubarak was entitled to personal dignity befitting his status.

Speaking in Mombasa, Kenya, where he is attending the African Leadership Conference, which is to round off on Friday, Obasanjo said the treatment meted to the former Egyptian leader was bad for the image of Africa as a continent.

“Put him in a cage? It is not proper. He deserves a better treatment. This is not good for the image of Africa,” Obasanjo told a gathering of African leaders, including former South African President Thabo Mbeki, and other governance experts gathered for the conference.

Egypt has put its former President on trial for the killing of protesters calling for his resignation in late January to early February this year.

Obasanjo, who had earlier addressed the African governance conference on the need for African governments to continue improving their governance ratings, also called on the African media to maintain high ethical standards to gain credibility.

He said the media in Africa could not claim a high moral ground and attempt to police good governance while still being held back by corruption within its ranks.

The African leaders at the conference, including ministers, top civil society voices across the continent and African scholars, called for massive infrastructure improvements to put the continent on a faster lane for the achievement of its economic development goals.

Speaking on the role of the media in advancing continental development, Obasanjo said from his knowledge of the Nigerian press, the media could not be trusted to champion governance.

He drew parallels with the likes of the British media, which he said engaged in gate-keeping of the news to ensure that news that would portray Britain in negative light was not publicised.

“I used to know that the BBC used to have a foreign relations officer whose duty it was to ensure that only news that does not hurt the image of Britain or its foreign relations are cleared for publication.

“I do not know if the system is still in place today,” he said.

http://www.punchontheweb.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201108050592121

I agree with Obj.

The manner in which Saddam was executed was wrong. The manner in which Mubarak was brought in is wrong.

Look, you don't humiliate someone in public who has had the honor to sit in a presidential seat and has had stately people bow to him.

America gave Osama a more befitting execution than they did Saddam.

When you put an ex president of Egypt in a cage for public view and humiliation, then you have humiliated the throne of power in that nation.

Another dimension to look at. American image really started taking hit when Republicans tarnished the power of their presidency by bringing what ought to be private in the white water probe to the public gaze and mockery, including a clothing belonging to Monica that was stained with the president's semen. That's when America lost its glory.


The Presidency is a cult. We'd love to kniow and see what they do but certain activities and actions of what they are and do must be kept out of public gaze, that way the mystery of the office does not loose its enchanting effect over us.

that was just wrong.

doesnt speak well of the new govt or whoever is behind it.

there might be a bloodbath soon.

While it is normal to sympathize with an old 83 year old man in a cage, Mubarak only has himself to blame. When you overstay your welcome you invite indignities. Thousands of old, young and in-between died in the hands of his sons and agents in the bid to preserve their power. Nobody sang a dirge for them. Any pity for him is fleeting.

How can you consider the manner in which Saddam died wrong? Perhaps you have a problem with the "untouchables" that did it - that is understandable. His execution was, however, more dignified than he deserved. He should have suffocated in the rat hole he was hiding in, taking a couple of days to die. That is basically what happened to his own people that he gased to preserve power.

Leaders need to realize that at the end of each and every of one their actions are the aged, the young, the infirm, the healthy, the babies, the lame, the academician, etc. They must realize that it is only by the will of the people, random acts of birth/place and the grace of God that they find themselves in elevated positions. What should be more humbling than that?

If two bullets right between the eyes was a more befitting execution then I don't understand you.

Negro_Ntns:

I agree with Obj.

The manner in which Saddam was executed was wrong. The manner in which Mubarak was brought in is wrong.

Look, you don't humiliate someone in public who has had the honor to sit in a presidential seat and has had stately people bow to him.

America gave Osama a more befitting execution than they did Saddam.  

When you put an ex president of Egypt in a cage for public view and humiliation, then you have humiliated the throne of power in that nation.

Another dimension to look at. American image really started taking hit when Republicans tarnished the power of their presidency by bringing what ought to be private in the white water probe to the public gaze and mockery, including a clothing belonging to Monica that was stained with the president's Fluid. That's when America lost its glory.


The Presidency is a cult. We'd love to kniow and see what they do but certain activities and actions of what they are and do must be kept out of public gaze, that way the mystery of the office does not loose its enchanting effect over us.

^^all that one you're yarning is neither here nor there.

this does not bode well for egypt.

Now I understand why we remain in bondage on the African continent. What cult?

The only thing that should protect the mystery of the office is "good governance" and "dignified behavior" of those to whom it is entrusted.

At this point I can only be enchanted by 24-hour electricity, pure running water, smooth roads/transportation network and effect, yet hidden security for Nigeria's citizens.

We will be enchanted when we find it difficult to believe how beyond our wildest dreams someone is performing.

Of course, America lost some dignity over the Clinton Affair, but that is mainly because Clinton did it, not because America brought it out in the open. In American society saved its unborn generations from the consequences of impunity by dragging it out and teaching the people involved a good lesson.

Negro_Ntns:

The Presidency is a cult. We'd love to kniow and see what they do but certain activities and actions of what they are and do must be kept out of public gaze, that way the mystery of the office does not loose its enchanting effect over us.

It is neither here nor there? Hhmmm?

What separates one murderer from another? If that is the way accused murderers are carried to court in Egypt, then that is the way he should be carried to court too. Let the consequences follow, but justice must be served.

If you were directly touched by his brutality you would want him where he deserves to be - in the cage. When looking from afar one is likely to be overwhelmed by the immediate emphaty for a sick old man as in the article below. True emphaty however belongs to the long suffering people of Egypt and the countless victims of his murderous regims. However, the Egyptian people are done with that family and their oppression, and justice must be thoroughly served to ensure that:

Quote: "The last time he spoke in the Police Academy on the outskirts of Cairo where the court was set up was when he was still in charge, praising the role of the police force. That was on January 23. Two days later protests erupted against his rule. In the days that followed, police used live ammunition, rubber bullets and teargas to try to quell the protests. About 850 people were killed in the 18-day uprising. Mubarak is now charged with their deaths and could face the death penalty. His only words on Wednesday from his bed were "Sir, I am present. I entirely deny all those accusations."

Rulers need to remember days like this and rule with the fear of God & the people in their hearts.

Quote: "Where many Egyptians could unite was in anger at his sons, Alaa, who had business interests, and Gamal, a banker-turned-politician who was once seen as being groomed for office. Many felt they used their father to amass wealth and influence. I do not sympathise with his sons. They both knew what they have brought upon their father, caring for their interests on his account by making him rule at an old age so they can benefit," Wael Badr, 40-year-old lawyer, said.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/world-news/25601-mubarak-trial-draws-emotions-of-egyptians
Mubarak trial draws emotions of Egyptians .
Thursday, 04 August 2011 17:06 Reuters

Many Egyptians struggled with torn emotions on Thursday as they reviewed images splashed over newspapers and repeated on television of their octogenarian former president, a day after he went on trial following 30 years at the helm.

"Mubarak in the cage ,  Now the revolution has succeeded," Al-Akhbar blared in a banner headline over a picture of Hosni Mubarak lying on a hospital trolley behind a cage in court.

"Mubarak and his regime present in the grip of justice," wrote the Al-Ahram, another state newspaper that would once have praised Mubarak's every move. A few Egyptians revelled in the scene and said his appearance in bed was an act to draw sympathy.

Others said this was no way to treat an old man. However, many of those asked for their views showed sympathy but said justice must be done. "I felt sorry for him but still that doesn't mean he should be spared from being held accountable for all what he did," said Michael Atef, 27-year-old accountant.

"This trial is a must." Those in the court gasped when they saw Mubarak, 83, a former air force commander, wheeled into the cage where defendants in criminal cases are customarily held.

The last time he spoke in the Police Academy on the outskirts of Cairo where the court was set up was when he was still in charge, praising the role of the police force. That was on January 23.

Two days later protests erupted against his rule. In the days that followed, police used live ammunition, rubber bullets and teargas to try to quell the protests. About 850 people were killed in the 18-day uprising.

Mubarak is now charged with their deaths and could face the death penalty. His only words on Wednesday from his bed were "Sir, I am present. I entirely deny all those accusations."

For some, even the sight of their weakened president did not dent their anger. "I would rather have mercy for a dog or cat than this man. This whole scene of him on a stretcher is an act. He could have sat down and talked.

This is just to try to gain the nation's sympathy," said Somaya Sa'ad, 63, retired. "He has caused so much oppression to this country for the past 30 years, let's not forget that."

For others images of him lying on a bed, occasionally lifting his head to watch proceedings was too much humiliation for a man who led Egypt's air force against Israel in the 1973 war and steadied the nation after his predecessor Anwar Sadat was assassinated in 1981.

"I had tears in my eyes watching him lie helplessly like that. We shouldn't forget the good qualities he had when he was president," said Badr el-Din Gabr, 56, who works in advertising.

"He shouldn't have been put in the dock with the whole world watching him. This is an insult to Mubarak and an insult to Egyptians." The trial, televised around the world, transfixed Egyptians and other Arabs, most of whom have spent their lives under authoritarian systems shaken by this year's "Arab Spring".

But most Egyptians said that, however pitiful they found the scene, justice must be done to fulfill the goals of an uprising that ejected him from power on February 11.

They blamed Mubarak for deeply dividing the nation between rich and poor and a powerful elite versus a powerless majority. "It's human to err and as humans, we should be merciful over such a scene ,  I wouldn't even wish it for my worst enemy.

But there is a difference between my heart sympathising and my belief that justice and accountability must be served," said Amal Abdel Haleem, a 40-year-old housewife.

Where many Egyptians could unite was in anger at his sons, Alaa, who had business interests, and Gamal, a banker-turned-politician who was once seen as being groomed for office. Many felt they used their father to amass wealth and influence.

"I do not sympathise with his sons. They both knew what they have brought upon their father, caring for their interests on his account by making him rule at an old age so they can benefit," Wael Badr, 40-year-old lawyer, said.

tpia@:

^^all that one you're yarning is neither here nor there.
this does not bode well for egypt.

It was really disturbing to see Mubarak treated that way. All the mind could think of was Saddam. There might be no good in the likes of both Saddam and Mubarak, however issues of state require decorum, gravitas and cerebral application. Mubaraks treatment stinks of the methods of despotic dictators, yet the Egyptian are groaning for democracy. Madness doesn't give birth to civility.

The man led the country, so trussing him up or caging him is the same as his prosecutors spitting on their own countries image. When a country reaches for crude means to resolve a problem, nobody expects civility, peace and progress as the outcomes. Saddam was hurriedly hanged like a chicken in public, but Iraq is all the worse for it, more divided, dangerous and backward than it ever was.

Crude methods are highly visible and and 99% of the time, just for show; while ugliness and murky deeds are buried in the blood lusting animal instincts of the baying mob.
I fear for the future of Egypt, it is easy to see that Mubarak is a sacrifice for the continuation of the same old wicked Egyptian powers that be. That countries future is bleak.

Koruji,

We are not saying he should not face justice. The government brought him in cage, not ordinary people on the street. They can torture and do to him whaever they want but keep it veiled. When he is brought in public, he can be shown in handcuffs but parading him in a cage is not just undignified for Mubarak, the Egyptian presidency is likewise humiliated.

I respectfully disagree.

If this is the way it is done to accused murderers in Egypt then he should have no special treatment.  Mubarak most likely, during his unending rein, humiliated completely innocent people at will this way - that is if they had the benefit of a court trial!!!

Why should he not face the same standards he metted out to people?

Negro_Ntns:

Koruji,

We are not saying he should not face justice. The government brought him in cage, not ordinary people on the street. They can torture and do to him whaever they want but keep it veiled. When he is brought in public, he can be shown in handcuffs but parading him in a cage is not just undignified for Mubarak, the Egyptian presidency is likewise humiliated. 

Rulers should rule with the fear of God & of the people in their hearts and they will not have any problems. Otherwise, they must expect not only God's wrath, but also the peoples.

We are all flesh and blood, born of woman - no one should have the right to destroy others with impunity and expect less when it is his turn - let those who have an ear hear.

Of course it is possible to treat him less harshly - but that would be a privilege. He has absolutely no right to less harsh conveyance to court than any other accused murderer. Direct the killing of 850 people a few months ago, and then expect to be chauffer-driven to court when the people lay their hands on you? The people were protesting donkey years of rule for God's sake. This was not the same thing as Boko Haram and the like.

Ghaddaffi's days are coming very quickly - anybody that promises to go from house to house killing his own people do not deserve any pity when his court trial begins.

Look Mubarak should count himself lucky that he did not disappear with the revolution. Revolutions are prompted by leaders that are completely numb to the plight of their people and from times immemorial the anger of the thoroughly miffed populace do not settle until they have got rid of the dictator.

1793 French Revolution
Execution of Louis XVI in what is now the Place de la Concorde, facing the empty pedestal where the statue of his grandfather, Louis XV, had stood.
In the Brunswick Manifesto, the Imperial and Prussian armies threatened retaliation on the French population if it were to resist their advance or the reinstatement of the monarchy. This made Louis appear to be conspiring with the enemies of France. 17 January 1793 saw Louis condemned to death for "conspiracy against the public liberty and the general safety" by a close majority in Convention: 361 voted to execute the king, 288 voted against, and another 72 voted to execute him subject to a variety of delaying conditions. The former Louis XVI, now simply named Citoyen Louis Capet (Citizen Louis Capet), was executed by guillotine on 21 January 1793 on the Place de la Révolution, former Place Louis XV, now called the Place de la Concorde.[62] Royalty across Europe was horrified and many heretofore neutral countries soon joined the war against revolutionary France

Beaf:

It was really disturbing to see Mubarak treated that way. All the mind could think of was Saddam. There might be no good in the likes of both Saddam and Mubarak, however issues of state require decorum, gravitas and cerebral application. Mubaraks treatment stinks of the methods of despotic dictators, yet the Egyptian are groaning for democracy. Madness doesn't give birth to civility.

The man led the country, so trussing him up or caging him is the same as his prosecutors spitting on their own countries image. When a country reaches for crude means to resolve a problem, nobody expects civility, peace and progress as the outcomes. Saddam was hurriedly hanged like a chicken in public, but Iraq is all the worse for it, more divided, dangerous and backward than it ever was.

Crude methods are highly visible and and 99% of the time, just for show; while ugliness and murky deeds are buried in the blood lusting animal instincts of the baying mob.
I fear for the future of Egypt, it is easy to see that Mubarak is a sacrifice for the continuation of the same old wicked Egyptian powers that be. That countries future is bleak.

I agree with Obj here. The caging is totally uncalled for. Put him on trial, if found guilty jail him. There is no need for this public humiliation.

I agree with OBJ too on this.

karma is a bitch

i'm indifferent to his humiliation

this is a case of "what his hands have sent forth before him"

let him take it for what it is, an opportunity for deep reflection and a last chance at repentance. the humiliation in the afterlife will be much worse.

I still disagree. If those on trial for murder are brought to court this way in Egypt so be it. Perhaps I would not have done it the same way, but bottom-line is that would be discretionary decision. Leaders that think they are gods should stop for a rethink.

It is not that hard to "not be a wicked and thieving leader" - damn it!!!

Besides, at 83 his main punishment at this point is a complete and thorough demystification aka public humiliation. Let those who lived in fear for years on end not knowing when his goons are going to fire a shot at their cranium have the peace of mind that his reign of terror is actually gone.

OAM4J:

I agree with Obj here. The caging is totally uncalled for. Put him on trial, if found guilty jail him. There is no need for this public humiliation.

ziga:

I agree with OBJ too on this.

Ok, Egyptians are now calling for Islamic rule ( http://www.theamericantelegraph.com/?p=779 ) hahahahahahahah I'm like what did they have before?

Now they want Sharia law and a new Caliphate hahahahaha, I'ma watch how it plays out,

Cause I could stand still and watch the world blow up! Naaa I'll be be in Tarkwa chilling with my favourite people with my 20 grams of ganja! Aisile Olobo, Eku de wear gucci ahahaahah!!!


Honestly,I can't decide what to say about his caging! Did he do same to people while in office? the cage goes around then,

Was Mubarak that bad to those Egyptians?

Return of ANUnaki could be brutal after all!!! Olori Oko is right there

Mubarak would be thinking he shouldnt have quit, He should have fought to the end and die there

Those Egyptians thought they are humiliating Mubarak, but if they really have sense they would know that they are ridiculing their own country. There is nothing bad in trial of bad ruler but nothing to achieve with that drama. What treat is old man to them. Can he run away or what? Chains is to prevent escape or violent acts from criminal. Even America do have some respect for leaders dignity, or why did America pad fine on behalf of Dickey Cheney forhis involvement in Haliburton bribery scandal in Nigeria.

Mubarak and others who make tight friends with Western powers should learn from this. They are on their when the tide turns.

Its this kind of thing that is making people like Ghadaffi and dat Syrian guy - Bashar al-Assad hold on tenaciously to power.
What they have just done is to shoot the middle east revolution in the foot and effectively hobble the thing!
And that's the reason the revolution is no longer working, ask Assad whether he'd like the Mubarak treatment?
He will continue to massacre the people until they all give up while the west will continue to hold their di.c.ks in their hands, cos they don't want to commit another faux pas since their useless adventure in Libya is failing. 

^^
exactly,

wld not call what's happening in libya, a revolution!

an attempting murder of a sitting leader by the imperialist west,
subverting the sovereignty of another nation so the could
arrogate to them selves the economy surplus of libya,

annoying in  this is African leaders playing wussies.

A Military attack on any sovereign African state should have

been decisively   & collectively regarded as attack on
all Afri-states-all economic relations with the west
should have been placed on indefinite suspension
which would have jolted the world economy,
puttng the heat on the west to think twice,

Africa sure do have a definite role to place in the
international economy system
Our resources, our leverage
But our leaders seems not to be aware of this

they have corrupted themselves,their investments geared
towards foreign rather than national needs


fu.ckards
, 

It is funny how Obj can vioce his dirty opinion, lets ask him what about the dignity of Nigerian prisoners? What did he do to uplift the standards of prisoners in nigeria? why are leaders this days so hypocritical? the funny thing is that is how trial is held in Egypt, the accuse is remanded behind a metal cage, such scenario are common in the ME, more so i have seen such in russia, if Mubarrack wanted Dignity he should change such an act before he was disgrced from power. Typical of Nigeria leaders their comments are always self serving with large doses of Hypocrisy.

a variant of a question posed by chxta on freshly pressed today -

what would obj have done if it were abacha?

nonsense

the next thing we will be told the likes of idi amin and samuel doe should have been treated with dignity because of their office

mubarak desecrated the office of the president. greedy, autocratic despot.

he cold have taken the suharto option and gone quietly, ad none of this would be happening.

going by the spirited thats why libya and syria leaders are so desperate - yeh way to go those despots deserve a soft landing after all they have perpetrated

^^^

The rebels in syria & libya, are they making any progress in
attempting to oust their leaders despite the west support, ?

they want immediate 100 % change, make dem come get am, bunch of death lovers

going by the mubarak treatment, these leaders would slaughter them like chicken in
order to maintain the stronghold on power so as not to be givin the mubarak treatment

the west would start their noise urging them on to be so slaughtered! see pple wey love death die!

despite regime change in egpyt as occasioned by the people's protest, se whts still going on
their, still protesting, wht else do they want? d syrian govt. massacre of protesters?

Nothing is making Ghadaffi and Bashar hold on tight to power but their own constant lust for power, and the fear of the consequences of what they have done to their people over donkey years of rule. You guys are thinking in reverse I must say. It is not as if these guys are some honest Abes to whom you can write "beautiful" letters about the need for political & other reforms. No, these are people under whom uttering the word freedom of expression and the like will bring you quick death.

I am afraid such rulers only go either through coups or violent overthrow by the citizenry.

And you Mr. Kayd007 - wondering why "African leaders" are acting like wussies and wishing they would take any attack on a sovereign African country as an attack on all - I think you are missing the big picture. They have no choice than to act as wussies, since despotism is a common disease among them. Despotism means that your people are simply wishing & waiting for one chance to nail you. Despotic leaders who do not care about the welfare of their people are also not going to develop their own arsenal to fight a war - even when it is the right war to fight. What are they going to put in the sky against the F-16 and Tomahawk missiles of this world - donated 20 year old MiGs? When they have stashed your wealth away in "Western" banks you better believe that they have a bigger stake in preserving the stability of the West's economy than "their wretched peoples".

na2day!:

Its this kind of thing that is making people like Ghadaffi and dat Syrian guy - Bashar al-Assad hold on tenaciously to power.
What they have just done is to shoot the middle east revolution in the foot and effectively hobble the thing!
And that's the reason the revolution is no longer working, ask Assad whether he'd like the Mubarak treatment?
He will continue to massacre the people until they all give up while the west will continue to hold their di.c.ks in their hands, cos they don't want to commit another faux pas since their useless adventure in Libya is failing.

KAYD007:

^^
exactly,

wld not call what's happening in libya, a revolution!

an attempting murder of a sitting leader by the imperialist west,
subverting the sovereignty of another nation so the could
arrogate to them selves the economy surplus of libya,

annoying in this is African leaders playing wussies.

A Military attack on any sovereign African state should have

been decisively & collectively regarded as attack on
all Afri-states-all economic relations with the west
should have been placed on indefinite suspension
which would have jolted the world economy,
puttng the heat on the west to think twice,

Africa sure do have a definite role to place in the
international economy system
Our resources, our leverage
But our leaders seems not to be aware of this

they have corrupted themselves,their investments geared
towards foreign rather than national needs


fu.ckards
,

FYI that is what Mubarak is on trial for. His police killed[b] [size=14pt]850 people within 18 days[/size][/b]. He already slaughtered them like chicken.

The good fight is worth the fight. The days of Ghadaffi & Bashir are numbered.

KAYD007:

^^^

The rebels in syria & libya, are they making any progress in
attempting to oust their leaders despite the west support, ?

they want immediate 100 % change, make dem come get am, bunch of death lovers

going by the mubarak treatment, these leaders would slaughter them like chicken in
order to maintain the stronghold on power so as not to be givin the mubarak treatment

the west would start their noise urging them on to be so slaughtered! see pple wey love death die!

despite regime change in egpyt as occasioned by the people's protest, se whts still going on
their, still protesting, wht else do they want? d syrian govt. massacre of protesters?

nobody is beyond being caged thats the problem with africans. there is no sanctity in presidential positions and if you abuse it, you get caged. this is a visual deterrent. if everyone in africa is as docile as you 'sanctity of presidency' guys on NL then no wonder african leaders continue to overstep their bounds because they know docile africans believe in the sanctity and dignity of their presidents. there is a reason why america is what it was (they lock all their politicians in jail who mess up. when i lived in illinois, all their previous governors and mayors were in jail for minor offences (i call them minor because they involved tashere fraud compared to how africans steal billions ))

They should ve tied his dic-k to a rope and drag him along d streets of cairo.Same faith that will befall d gorrila obj 1 day

animals like mubarak and obj are directly/indirectly responsible for d death millions and they deserve nothing but eternal

my point being, him being locked in a cage is a 'spiritual  attitude adjuster'. these egyptians are operating in the spiritual realm. lock a man in the cage in front of his peers and break his 'egotistic' spirit. they are breaking the mans spirit and the spirit of whomever decides to take office. enforced humility.

Damnation,they and their offspring will be phased out from humanity, just like hitler

redsun:

They should ve tied his dic-k to a rope and drag him along d streets of cairo.Same faith that will befall d gorrila obj 1 day

his abuna

buzugee:

nobody is beyond being caged thats the problem with africans. there is no sanctity in presidential positions and if you abuse it, you get caged. this is a visual deterrent. if everyone in africa is as docile as you 'sanctity of presidency' guys on NL then no wonder african leaders continue to overstep their bounds because they know docile africans believe in the sanctity and dignity of their presidents. there is a reason why america is what it was (they lock all their politicians in jail who mess up. when i lived in illinois, all their previous governors and mayors were in jail for minor offences (i call them minor because they involved tashere fraud compared to how africans steal billions ))

Would you ever dream of seeing a European ex-president in a cage, even if he was the worst of tyrants?
Those guys know how to operate really smoothly. I can imagine if they had to execute someone (which they don't), it would be like:

Would you kindly shut your eyes sir? This might hurt a bit, but we are doing our best to guarantee your rights and ensure your smooth transition; if you care, we might show you the expected trajectory of the bullet. Are you positioned comfortably, or do you wish to voice any objections? Would you like a cup of tea sir?

Thats how things should be done. We can't continue the agricultural behaviour portrayed in Nollywood movies, it doesn't tell well.