afam4eva:

It's not in the blood. It's still boils down to poverty for the most part. But it's really embarrasing to see that majority of those looting those shops in a predominantly white society are blacks. It's really depressing.

kandiikane:

^^Cooga, maybe if in school blacks learn and study instead truanting and smoking weeding, talking about how they ba[i]n[/i]ged a girl or what colour knickers they have on the night before there will be more blacks in executive positions.

There is racism going on but racism is more played out in the black race by the black people themselves. .
If they learn in school and work hard they will be in executive positions. .Blacks are not always the victims. .

afam4eva:

It's not in the blood. It's still boils down to poverty for the most part. But it's really embarrasing to see that majority of those looting those shops in a predominantly white society are blacks. It's really depressing.

coogar:

even if they do, there's still a limit to how much they can achieve. the only sphere of life the black man has been allowed to thrive is sports/entertainment industry cos the ability can be measured physically. usain bolt will outrun any white man. . . .there's no gimmick. tyson will beat up any white boy in the ring. . . .no gimmick. but when it comes to climbing the career leader in a white-infested industry, the black man has no real chance of rising above his counterparts. at best he matches them or he stays under.

coogar:

that is because the blacks have more people trapped in the system than the whites. black people are poorer than their white counterparts, black people have a limit to what they can achieve, the whites don't. so the upper ceiling of the white man is way higher than that of the black and this transcends down to the base of the pyramid. . . . . . .what is the ratio of white chief executives to the black?

Sagamite:

[b]What is the ratio of the pass rates at all educational levels of blacks compared to whites?

What is the ratio of blacks compared to whites in the Top schools that produce the CEOs?

How come Indian people and Chinese people are very successful in the UK and blacks are not?

Sorry, blacks are actually succesful in some few things. E.g. In selling drugs, and looking appealing to women.

Build a library in a black society and measure its usage rate.

Build a gym in the same society and measure its usage rate.

I don't need to tell you the one that will be fully booked.

Misplaced priorities!

If they spend the hours that the spend in the gym in a library, we would have a black PM by 2025.

It is time blacks stop putting petty excuses for their failures and blaming the white man. They need to stop being lazy, smoking weed and abandoning their kids who end up being failures in life.

Indians, Chinese, and to some extent Nigerian and Ghanian people tend to be successful in the same environment because of their hard work and educational focus (and in the case of Nigeria, their 419  ). They are abundant in the top schools, get good jobs and set up their own businesses with success.

Their counterparts on mainly Carribean side and to a lesser extent (or comparative to the high achieving indians) the Pakistani are trapped in their poverty mainly because of their own ambitionlessness, poor parenting and misplaced priorities (in the case of Pakistan, religion).

It is hardly any limits or racism that is trapping them in poverty.

Sagamite:

What is the ratio of the pass rates at all educational levels of blacks compared to whites?
What is the ratio of blacks compared to whites in the Top schools that produce the CEOs?
How come Indian people and Chinese people are very successful in the UK and blacks are not?
Sorry, blacks are actually succesful in some few things. E.g. In selling drugs, and looking appealing to women.
Build a library in a black society and measure its usage rate.
Build a gym in the same society and measure its usage rate.
I don't need to tell you the one that will be fully booked.
Misplaced priorities!

If they spend the hours that the spend in the gym in a library, we would have a black PM by 2025.
It is time blacks stop putting petty excuses for their failures and blaming the white man. They need to stop being lazy, smoking weed and abandoning their kids who end up being failures in life.

Indians, Chinese, and to some extent Nigerian and Ghanian people tend to be successful in the same environment because of their hard work and educational focus (and in the case of Nigeria, their 419  ). They are abundant in the top schools, get good jobs and set up their own businesses with success.

Their counterparts on mainly Carribean side and to a lesser extent (or comparative to the high achieving indians) the Pakistani are trapped in their poverty mainly because of their own ambitionlessness, poor parenting and misplaced priorities (in the case of Pakistan, religion).

It is hardly any limits or racism that is trapping them in poverty.

coogar:

the chinese n indians were not enslaved. . . .they were not packed into small ships, chained down and worked in sugarcane/rice plantation.
there's a certain mentality with the black folks. . . .slave mentality exists in the subconscious. . . .the master-slave relationship still thrives.

black pm in europe? in the united kingdom?
that's a big laugh. it won't happen.

and they get looked at weirdly when they get to the top. . . .as if it's unheard of to see a black man doing great things. there's racism in this country. it's institutionalized. the chinese and the indians suffer less from it because they managed to turn it around in their own way. africa is poverty-stricken. respect beget respect. i don't see how africans can command such when these countries contribute trillions of pounds in aid-relief to africa year in year out.

i think it is. . . . .
black people suffer more from lack of parenting than the whites. the people responsible for the kids on the streets are either locked down in one correctional facility or battling detox in rehab centres. these kids were raised by the government. many grew up in youth hostels, never knew what love and respect meant and they keep carrying this anger out on the society at large. it's a vicious circle. when you throw a black man/woman in jail. . . .many suffer from that single act retrospectively. . . .

Sagamite:

Lets stop using slavery as an excuse.

Slavery does not stop you from solving integration and differential or writing an essay on the Post-globalisation cultural convergence.

The same Chinese and Indians have been indentured slaves before. Sitting our black arses down blaming slavery of 200 years ago is lazy.

The same slavery did not stop them from being the leading drugs sellers in society.

I am tired of hearing white man is holding us down. I can swear on my mothers life that the white man hardly ever comes and drag blacks out of classrooms or libraries to stop studying. But the white man do work fcking hard to stop them from selling drugs though but yet the blacks are still proficient in selling it. So how come they are successful in drug selling despite the white man trying to hold them down and stop them it? How come slavery mentality did not stop them subconciously from drug-selling?

It is mainly pure laziness, familial breakdown, indiscipline and misplaced priorities.

The societies that have less of the above (Nigerians and Ghanians) are doing far better irrespective of slavery of 200 years ago. If you like look at them when they get to the top, they still go out and achieve. How does people looking at you stop you?

Yes, parenting is a big issue. The foools should stop taking drugs and having babymamas in every post code, ediot single mothers should stop opening their legs to drug-headed foools.

Sagamite:

Lets stop using slavery as an excuse.

Slavery does not stop you from solving integration and differential or writing an essay on the Post-globalisation cultural convergence.

The same Chinese and Indians have been indentured slaves before. Sitting our black arses down blaming slavery of 200 years ago is lazy.

The same slavery did not stop them from being the leading drugs sellers in society.

I am tired of hearing white man is holding us down. I can swear on my mothers life that the white man hardly ever comes and drag blacks out of classrooms or libraries to stop studying. But the white man do work fcking hard to stop them from selling drugs though but yet the blacks are still proficient in selling it. So how come they are successful in drug selling despite the white man trying to hold them down and stop them it? How come slavery mentality did not stop them subconciously from drug-selling?

It is mainly pure laziness, familial breakdown, indiscipline and misplaced priorities.

The societies that have less of the above (Nigerians and Ghanians) are doing far better irrespective of slavery of 200 years ago. If you like look at them when they get to the top, they still go out and achieve. How does people looking at you stop you?

Yes, parenting is a big issue. The foools should stop taking drugs and having babymamas in every post code, ediot single mothers should stop opening their legs to drug-headed foools.

Sagamite:

Lets stop using slavery as an excuse.

Slavery does not stop you from solving integration and differential or writing an essay on the Post-globalisation cultural convergence.

The same Chinese and Indians have been indentured slaves before. Sitting our black arses down blaming slavery of 200 years ago is lazy.

The same slavery did not stop them from being the leading drugs sellers in society.

I am tired of hearing white man is holding us down. I can swear on my mothers life that the white man hardly ever comes and drag blacks out of classrooms or libraries to stop studying. But the white man do work fcking hard to stop them from selling drugs though but yet the blacks are still proficient in selling it. So how come they are successful in drug selling despite the white man trying to hold them down and stop them it? How come slavery mentality did not stop them subconciously from drug-selling?

It is mainly pure laziness, familial breakdown, indiscipline and misplaced priorities.

The societies that have less of the above (Nigerians and Ghanians) are doing far better irrespective of slavery of 200 years ago. If you like look at them when they get to the top, they still go out and achieve. How does people looking at you stop you?

Yes, parenting is a big issue. The foools should stop taking drugs and having babymamas in every post code, ediot single mothers should stop opening their legs to drug-headed foools.

denzel2009:

Sagamite sure gives some drilled down facts when he is not in reetard and moooron mode. Bravo!

kandiikane:

@coogar so you are now blaming whites for the greed and corruption of Africans?

denzel2009:

Sagamite sure gives some drilled down facts when he is not in reetard and moooron mode. Bravo!

Do you want him to launch it starting with you?

kandiikane:

Coogar, seriously? You are blaming the people aiding African for the greed in Africa?

Ok, lets say, these aids are taken away? What will happen to the millions of people who rely on these aids for their everyday meal? For their children to go to school?. .You should not blame the development aids but the Africans sitting up there. .

They are the ones who did not go to school and are selling Africa's resources to the outside world and leaving nothing for the people. . .Did you know the water in DRCongo can light up the whole of Africa? We need people who have gone abroad to study to come back to Africa and put their brains together and work to develop Africa and not sit in Europe or America working there and dying there for nothing. .

There are aids who give the fund directly to the people not to the politicians.

coogar:

of course, they are the ones putting farmers out of business. without the aid relief, somalis won't be starving to death as we speak. huge bureaucracies are financed with the aid money. corruption and complacency are also promoted as well.

the people who rely on these aids will then go back to the farm and work like they have been doing since colonialism started. what actually happens is sad to hear. . . . .when food is shipped to africa. . . . .a portion of it often goes directly into the hands of unscrupulous politicians who then pass it on to their own tribe to boost their next election campaign.

another portion of the shipment ends up on the black market where the corn is dumped at extremely low prices. local farmers may as well put down their hoes right away as they cannot compete with the united nations world food program. and because the farmers go under in the face of this pressure, somalia would have no reserves to draw on if famine were to come like it's happening now. it's a simple but a vicious cycle.

the billions of dollars earmarked for the fight against poverty and diseases are still stashed away in the bank accounts of african dictators and have not been spent. our politicians are overwhelmed with money, and they try to siphon off as much as possible. the late tyrant, jean bokassa, summarized the situation by saying: "The French government pays for everything in our country. We ask the French for money. We get it, and then we waste it."

only for the europeans to go back to those countries and buy those relief package back and auction them on ebay at triple the price. clothes are sent to africa. . . .and you expect the african countries to improve their trade relations with one another? no one in the low-wage world of africa can be cost-efficient enough to keep pace with donated products.

for instance, nigeria's textile industry started with some 150,000 workers in the mid-90s, today the figure had dropped to 17,000.
the results are the same in all other areas where overwhelming helpfulness and fragile african markets collide. . . . . .because when you flood the market with free products, it puts the locals in the same trade out of business then everybody largely relies on these things every day.

the foreign aid only helps the bank accounts of african leaders to wield more power, bribe officials to change the constitution to keep them in power and oppress innocent citizens. . . .it should be stopped before it tears africa apart.
the clip below will go a long way to help you. . . .

[flash=425,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyRzzZ9Eig?version=3&hl=en_GB"[/flash]

of course, they are the ones putting farmers out of business. without the aid relief, somalis won't be starving to death as we speak. huge bureaucracies are financed with the aid money. corruption and complacency are also promoted as well.

the people who rely on these aids will then go back to the farm and work like they have been doing since colonialism started. what actually happens is sad to hear. . . . .when food is shipped to africa. . . . .a portion of it often goes directly into the hands of unscrupulous politicians who then pass it on to their own tribe to boost their next election campaign.

another portion of the shipment ends up on the black market where the corn is dumped at extremely low prices. local farmers may as well put down their hoes right away as they cannot compete with the united nations world food program. and because the farmers go under in the face of this pressure, somalia would have no reserves to draw on if famine were to come like it's happening now. it's a simple but a vicious cycle.

kandiikane:

Have you been reading/watching the news? You know famine and drought are the reasons why these farmers are out of business right? You know there is also conflict going on in somalia and about 10million of east Africans are starving because of the famine and conflicts, right?

except that the conflict was funded by the same development aid funds pumped into africa. you must wonder, where do the rebels in africa get the resources to start civil wars? where do they get the resources to raise local militias? development aid is what funds terrorism in africa. isn't it a shame that america has spent $600 billion on development aid and africa is still poor? where has all the money gone?

Are you serious?
You are not serious. .

My-Key:

Total Bollocks.
Singapore was much much poorer than Africa in 1960. Now, it's a first world country. How come this onyibo conspiracy didn.t extend there? How about South Korea, Taiwan? Are the Seychelles, Mauritius and Botswana not African countries?

If the aim of the wicked Imperialists was to eliminate all progressive leaders from the developing world and stifle Africa's progress, how come they didn't do the same to Artuturk, Lee Kwan Yeuw, Sir Seretse Khama, et al.? What makes we have children that we cannot take care of properly (Baby Daddy syndrome)-is that a Western plot too? How about the waste, inefficiency and lack of probity?

As President Barack Obama said,
"If we're serious about reclaiming that dream, we have to do more in our own lives, our own families and our own communities," Obama said. "That starts with providing the guidance our children need, setting a good example."

He added: "I know some say I've been too tough on folks about this responsibility stuff. But I'm not going to stop talking about it. Because I believe that in the end, it doesn't matter how much money we invest in our communities, or how many 10-point plans we propose, or how many government programs we launch—none of it will make any difference if we don't seize more responsibility in our own lives."

I bet many of this black ppl r nigerians

coogar:

their good samaritan intentions have been damaging our continent for the past 40 years. if the developed nations really want to help the africans, they should finally end this awful aid. the countries that have collected the most development aid are also the ones that have been crippled with poverty.
in spite the billions that have been invested in africa, the continent remains poor!

development aid is one of the reasons for africa's problems.
if the developed nations were to stop these payments, normal africans wouldn't even notice. only the politicians would be hard hit. this is why they maintain that the world would stop turning without this development aid. what do you really think happen to the funds african politicians collect from the west? you think africans benefit from it?