@ Dayokanu,

Goals ALONE do not govern strikers but their overall OUTPUT.
Messi is a striker. . . . How many goals has he scored for Barcelona or Argentina??
How many German players in the past and present are gifted like Leo Messi?
Rooney is better than any living German striker today. . . .FACT!!!

What overall output are you talking about?

What distinguishes Ronaldo Lima, Nistelrooy, Henry, Shevchenko (Milan), Raul, Torres and other strikers you call world class.

Is it their hair do? Definitely goals define a striker.

Messi plays to the right of the field for both club and country. Rooney is a central striker in Man Utd since the exit of RVN and the Permanent disability of Saha. In England , ever since Owen got crocked he is the main striker and he plays most of the games. So he has no excuse. 5 goals in 4 years for a Striker

@ Dayokanu,

This is why i think u are a soccer-illiterate.
Wayne Rooney has never been played as a central striker.
Rooney plays wide or just behind a main striker. . . . . Where was Rooney against Barcelona or Roma??
He was given a wide role so he can cover for either Evra or Wes Brown when opponents are on the attack(something Ronaldo does not DO).
When u understand the dynamics of football. . . . U would shut ur filthy mouth up.
Players like Kanu, Dennis Bergkamp, Messi, Kaka, Rivaldo are not prolific strikers but they are very EFFECTIVE.

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dayokanu:

What overall output are you talking about?

What distinguishes Ronaldo Lima, Nistelrooy, Henry, Shevchenko (Milan), Raul, Torres and other strikers you call world class.

Is it their hair do? Definitely goals define a striker.

Messi plays to the right of the field for both club and country. Rooney is a central striker in Man Utd since the exit of RVN and the Permanent disability of Saha. In England , ever since Owen got crocked he is the main striker and he plays most of the games. So he has no excuse. 5 goals in 4 years for a Striker

5 goals in 4 years is shitty.So are you saying 80% of his goals where in Euro 2004 are you saying he was a flash in the pan

Can you tell us who is the central striker for England and man Utd Tevez or Ronaldo.

Ronaldo Lima supported bebeto, Raul has never been a top striker too, Henry plays as a second striker for France. Yet they score.
What is Podolski's position for his National team? How come he scores so much? What was Roberto Baggio?

Rivaldo is not prolific? This is a confirmation of your DSTV boys association. I bet you dont even know whom Rivaldo was? On one thread you were asking about Rivaldo's greatest game. How can anyone following Euro footie forget Rivaldo's Greatest game. Hat trick vs Valencia.

Rooney was a flash in the pan

This should help you get a clearer picture

The guy is just an over hyped idiot.

In the last 4 years from September 2004 till now he has 5 goals for the national team
Within the same time frame, consider the number of games this guys played

Jermaine Defoe 5 goals
Peter Crouch 14 goals
Michael Owen 13 goals despite his injuries.
The much maligned Frank Lampard 9 goals
Steven Gerrard 9 goals
John Terry(A defender) 4 goals

Comparing to other international stars of similar ages within the same time frame
Cristiano Ronaldo 19 goals
Lukas Podolski 28 goals
Lionel Messi 9 goals
Karim Benzema who was capped just last year 4 goals

The guy is woeful to say the least

Shocking Shocking stats

Maybe we should employ 4play to teach Jackal abt Euro footie, Claiming Rivaldo was not prolific, on another thread claiming Henry was a failure for France.

He is now known as GUFFANTI .

Someone who believes Rooney is better than Opabunmi need a check!!!

Henry a failure for France? Their highest goalscorer in French National Team history lol i would just act like i didnt see that gaffe

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Quote from: dayokanu on August 26, 2008, 09:36 PM
OK who is more effective outside Man Utd. Rooney for England or Ronaldo for Portugal

maybe Rooney tracks back for England too and Ronaldo is center forward for Portugal.

When a man is a failure we can think up 100 excuses including Rooney's wife just gave birth, He contacted virus and others

Count the number of chances rooney Misses and the number Ronaldo misses.

Its Official, ROONEY is shyte!!!!@!!!!!!

You are a doofus. . . . . The set up are different. . . .
How can u compare the Portugese team to the English team??
Football is a team game and not about individual. . . . .Why was Henry a hero at Arsenal and ZERO for France??

Ronaldo misses more chances than Rooney. . . . .Go and check Ronnie's number of shots on goal compared to actual goals.
Even Adebayor has a better conversion rate than Ronaldo so always back up your facts before spewing shyte.
Rooney's achievements dwarf any player in Bayern Munich and thats OFFICIAL. Tongue Grin

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-16635.12416.html

If Henry was zero for France with a Euro and World Cup Winners medal then Rooney has been an absolute disaster and would be rated in negative integers!! thats unbelievable from Hannibal its an insult on Henry to even compare him to Rooney

dayokanu:

Maybe we should employ 4play to teach Jackal about Euro footie, Claiming Rivaldo was not prolific, on another thread claiming Henry was a failure for France.

He is now known as GUFFANTI .

Someone who believes Rooney is better than Opabunmi need a check!!!

This epileptic BEAST OF BURDEN is foaming in the mouth again.

Wayne Rooney is better than all the players u listed up there. . . . .Crouch?? Defoe?? Owen?? Klose?? Podolski??
Are u genetically stupid or u have been wired wrongly by your mid-wives??
Maybe your umblica cord wound round your neck that reduced the required oxygen going to your brain as a new born tot. . . .

Wayne Rooney has scored 41 goals for Man Utd in the last 2 seasons.
By the law of average, he is a 20 goal-per-season player WHETHER u like it or not.
I saw the UEFA awards last night. . . . . .Rooney made it(I didn't see Podolski or Klose or even Luca Toni in the awards).

Lest i forget. . . . . . . .I still repeat it, Thierry Henry is a ZERO for France and a hero for Arsenal.
That he is the all time top scorer for France means zilch. . . . It just proves France as a football nation is dud.
Rasheed Yekini has a better goal ratio. . . . .Never mind Luiz Ronaldo, Batistuta, Gerd Muller and other top scorers all over the world.
A player that has dominated the scorer's chart in England more than 5 times SHOULD BE DOING BETTER for his country.


@ A-40,

When you are less busy. . . . .I want u to PERUSE this link extensively.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-15257.0.html

@Dayokanu

It's Yemi. Need to chat with u

It just proves France as a football nation is dud.

Another One!!!!!!

2 euro cups and 1 world cup. How many European countries have a better record. If you can count three I owe you $1,000 If not it just shows you are plain stupid.

France as a country dud? A country that produced platini, Zidane, henry, Desailly, I can mention 20 French players who are much better than anyone England has ever produced.

Henry played 6 tournaments for France. Only in One tournament did anyone score more than him for his National team. yet he is a failure to you.



Well a mad man would always call others mad. Just like jackal calling someone a failure

1 world cup win for a country as talented as France??
Do u know the number of African players they have claimed in the last half century??
You must be very stupid to think France as a nation has excelled in Europe. . . .
If they didn't host the world cup in 98, would they have won it??

George Best is better than any player that have played for FRANCE.
After Pele it's Maradona then George Best!!!!
You keep repeating no one has outscored Henry for France. . . . .It's like beating a dead horse.
France as a nation are a failure. . . . . .No player has beaten Titi Camara in Guinea in any competition they have played.
Does that necessarily make Titi Camara the best player in Guinea??

Are u this fickle??

No player has beaten Titi Camara in Guinea in any competition they have played.
Does that necessarily make Titi Camara the best player in Guinea??

If no one can score More than Titi over 5 competitions mean Titi is the best striker in Guinea

@Hannibal
Thierry Henry can in no way be compared to Rooney!! Wazza is eons behind surely you must have forgotten that he has emerged top-scorer in the Prem 4 times in 8 seasons

France as a footballing nation is a dud? Are you sure of what you are saying? 1 World Cup and 2 Euro titles? compared to England's 1 World Cup and zero Euro titles those cats have not won anything major for 42 years!! and you say the French are a dud that doesnt make any sense man

He might not have been the best player in the French National Team but he has given his bit i can count many big names that fail to shine in big tournaments that doesnt make them a failure

Any discerning footie fan knows Henry is class club affiliation or not

It's obvious some people don't get to watch football except the premiership.

kaydee:

It's obvious some people don't get to watch football except the premiership.

And your point is

Euro U17 Championships: Germany 4-0 England

German midfielder Christopher Buchtman masterminded the destruction of England's Under-17s in their European Group B qualifier.

Buchtman created three of Germany's goals in the emphatic 4-0 defeat for John Peacock's young lions, leaving them needing a miracle to qualify.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/2009/05/11/young-lions-mauled-115875-21348945/

What more can I say!!!! I remember Toni Kroos masterminding a 4-1 anhiliation of England in the last world cup too

Where are the English talents!!!!!!!

With home based players like John terry, Ferdinand, Lampard, & Joe Cole All those Home based players no sabi anything!!

This should help you get a clearer picture

The guy is just an over hyped idiot.

In the last 4 years from September 2004 till now he has 5 goals for the national team
Within the same time frame, consider the number of games this guys played

Jermaine Defoe 5 goals
Peter Crouch 14 goals
Michael Owen 13 goals despite his injuries.
The much maligned Frank Lampard 9 goals
Steven Gerrard 9 goals
John Terry(A defender) 4 goals

Comparing to other international stars of similar ages within the same time frame
Cristiano Ronaldo 19 goals
Lukas Podolski 28 goals
Lionel Messi 9 goals
Karim Benzema who was capped just last year 4 goals

The guy is woeful to say the least

@poster,
how do u reconcile the topic of this thread with the post on quote above?
are these names u mentioned here below part of the crap or have u seperated the chaff from the grain?
how many players in the france national team are french men? if you have the opportunity to select eleven players from everywhere in the world to play against brazil, won't u win?
a country like holland that have produced a lot of football big names but are not fruitful in their national side, shld be called scrab , abi?
i have said it and i will continue saying it, the lizard from his position is always trying to sit down but due to long tail, he can't.
if your location is real, u are soccer handicapped. always search ur internet for information but i tell u, i see it will reamain better than i read it.
tell me in which areas of football u find the english team wanting from their defence to their attack.
rooney is a good player. fergie prefers him as a supporting striker or a wide player. nesteroy was doing the finishing job while his exist introduced saha, saha could not do the work hence the continued search for a replacement in berbitov and tevez.
rooney has excess energy so playing him as 9 is always a wastes of human resources. remember every country has a league and england is comfortably playing 11 players in almost all their matches who are product of their local league.
hate them or like them, no history of football without england.

There is no history of football without England? Thats why they have not won anything of note since Obama was in Diapers.

They dont even play any finals

CRAPPY NATION

hehehehe . DK wetin england do u. Abeg make una leave england alone jor atleast they are trying their best.

Even Togo is trying their best. They should shut up and know their level in European football

Their U-19 boys are doing well. Secured a place in the final of the Europeans Championship beating France by 3-1.

@dayokanu,
no matter what u are doing in the usa, i still believe u have choosen the wrong profession.
there is a business that is gaining popularity in nigeria today and it is generating a lot of funds to those in it.
it falls under entertainment and it is called COMEDY.
that is where u belong. come, meet and compare with the likes of AY, basket mouth, i go dye etc and you will see ur talent shine.
pls pls and pls, forget football as you are no where close to the game.

@ hannibal when england won d world cup who hosted it.Wasn't it england why re u dissin france? And to d case of george best , everyone knows dat zidane and platini re way above george best. So pls stop fighting a lost cause

bollingjoe:

@ hannibal when england won d world cup who hosted it.Wasn't it england why re u dissin france? And to d case of george best , everyone knows dat zidane and platini re way above george best. So pls stop fighting a lost cause

George Best is Northern Irish and not english.

Bunch of crap teams . . .

there is an organisation known as FIFA and this organisation has the final say in football. all reasonable decission are made by this body and not by a mortuary attendant.
this highest football organising body has this to say about all the teams in the world;

Ranking Team Pts
Aug 09 +/- Ranking
Jul 09 +/- Pts
Jul 09
1 Brazil 1642 0 -30
2 Spain 1590 0 0
3 Netherlands 1379 0 0
4 Germany 1195 1 -12
5 Italy 1181 -1 -48
6 Russia 1161 0 0
7 England 1135 0 0
8 Argentina 1080 0 -11
9 France 1059 0 -23
10 Croatia 1031 0 0
11 Greece 1001 0 0
12 USA 991 0 8
13 Switzerland 930 0 0
14 Serbia 925 0 0
15 Denmark 909 0 0
16 Australia 896 0 10
17 Portugal 881 0 2
18 Côte d'Ivoire 874 0 0
19 Ukraine 869 0 0
20 Paraguay 856 2 10
21 Uruguay 851 -1 -9
22 Czech Republic 850 -1 0
23 Bulgaria 839 0 0
24 Scotland 837 0 0
25 Israel 822 0 0
26 Chile 817 1 6
27 Romania 814 -1 0
28 Turkey 809 0 0
29 Cameroon 803 0 0
30 Mexico 799 3 22
31 Gabon 789 -1 0
32 Northern Ireland 784 0 0
33 Egypt 779 5 25
34 Nigeria 773 0 0
35 Ghana 772 0 0
36 Ecuador 768 0 8
37 Republic of Ireland 758 0 0
38 Costa Rica 742 -8 -47
39 Japan 729 1 7
40 Poland 706 1 0
41 Sweden 702 1 0
42 Slovakia 687 1 0
43 Hungary 681 1 0
44 Bosnia-Herzegovina 680 1 0
45 Colombia 668 1 -7
46 Honduras 664 -7 -89
47 Algeria 661 0 0
48 Korea Republic 626 0 -8
49 Tunisia 614 0 0
50 Norway 606 0 0

by the way, will dayokanu see england as a footballing nation if they win the world cup?