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Did God Create Dinosaurs? by LoveKing(m): 11:28am On Aug 29, 2011
About the dinosuars did God create them? If he did, they should have eaten up adam and eve or if they managed to escape what about Noah who got all animals under the sun into the ark, he too would have been eaten up by the dinosaurs. then why dont we have records of these beasts in the bible?
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by Joagbaje(m): 4:09pm On Aug 29, 2011
They existed and died many years before Adam was created. It was a pre adamic world
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by macayub(m): 5:42pm On Aug 29, 2011
(Genesis 1:20-25)

20 And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” 21 And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. 22 With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” 23 And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day. 24 And God went on to say: “Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind.” And it came to be so. 25 And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good.

So God did create every living things including dinosaurs that might be part of "the great sea monsters".
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by Joagbaje(m): 11:19pm On Aug 29, 2011
macayub:

So God did create every living things including dinosaurs that might be part of "the great sea monsters".

the account from Adam to date is just about 6,000 years plus. But the scientific radion carbon dating of the dinosaurs is millions of years.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by LoveKing(m): 5:31am On Aug 30, 2011
@Joagbaje

but how did you know that pls?
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by HISchild: 1:24am On Aug 31, 2011
The Lord GOD ALMIGHTY created all things -

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." - John 1:1-3

"And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:" - Ephesians 3:9

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." - Revelation 4:11

including dinosaurs - "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox." - Job 40:15

dinosaurs perished in the great flood of noah's day, approx 7000 years ago, and this world is approx. over 13,000 years old.

There is no such thing as a "pre adamic world", read Genesis chapter 1 and you will see the order in which GOD made all things in six days, just as HE said, praise GOD!

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” -2 Timothy 3:16-17

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." -2 Peter 1:21

"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." - Romans 3:4
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by ramalot(m): 5:37am On Aug 31, 2011
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Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:53am On Aug 31, 2011
you people are fools. noah didnt even exist and that story about the flood is a very foolish one fit for 2 yr old childs. tongue
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:56am On Aug 31, 2011
LoveKing:

About the dinosuars did God create them?

Yes.

LoveKing:

If he did, they should have eaten up adam and eve

Why, and who told you that dinosaurs were carnivorous?

LoveKing:

or if they managed to escape what about Noah who got all animals under the sun into the ark, he too would have been eaten up by the dinosaurs.

You got your facts wrong altogether. God did not tell Noah to get all the animals under the sun into the ark even though the ark was big enough to contain the few that were chosen.

Maybe you didn't realise that most dinosaurs have the average size of a sheep, some were even as small as chickens! The few dinosaurs that grew large were once smaller young adults. If you were Noah would you have taken the biggest dinosaurs or the young ones? (Remember, The young shall grow).

LoveKing:

then why dont we have records of these beasts in the bible?

You need to pick up the Truth book and read up the records of these beasts. Genesis 1:21; Psalm 74:13; Isaiah 27:1; 30:6; Job 40:15-19 and chapter 41 of Job.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:26pm On Aug 31, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Yes.

Why, and who told you that dinosaurs were carnivorous?[/b]You got your facts wrong altogether. God did not tell Noah to get all the animals under the sun into the ark even though the ark was big enough to contain the few that were chosen.

[b]Maybe you didn't realise that most dinosaurs have the average size of a sheep, some were even as small as chickens! The few dinosaurs that grew large were once smaller young adults. If you were Noah would you have taken the biggest dinosaurs or the young ones? (Remember, The young shall grow).

You need to pick up the Truth book and read up the records of these beasts. Genesis 1:21; Psalm 74:13; Isaiah 27:1; 30:6; Job 40:15-19 and chapter 41 of Job.


you are an illiterate fellow. dont you know that dinosaurs such as the T-Rex a.k.a The King of the Dinosaurs ,  the Baryonyx, the Raptors, etc., were Carnivorous   evidence includes struture of teeth, claws and remains of other dinosaurs i their skeletons were the stomach region should have been.

also if you are saying that Noah took Dinosaurs into his little boat, then he could not have taken todays animals such as the lion, the zebra, buffalo, hyena, dog, cat, Cow, etc./  so in other words, his boat was filled only with dinosaurs and after they were safely delivered, they became extinct. so WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE GODS ARE WE DOING HERE

and some dinosaurs could fly and some could only swim. how did he stuff them into his boat also how come he even existed in the age of dinosaurs




[size=16pt]YOUR CHURCH IS A BUILDING FULL OF LIES AND YOUR JESUS WAS A LIAR!!!!!!![/size] :10:3: Genesis angry angry angry angry
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:01pm On Aug 31, 2011
ramalot:

@HISchild
Since you somehow know that the dinosaurs perished during the flood of noah, i guess it is safe to ask you:

1- why did Noah choose to abandon the poor dinosaurs to drown?

Dinosaurs were represented in Noah's ark.

two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive (Genesis 6:20).

Noah did not choose to abandon the "poor dinosaurs to drown" it was God who chose which animals would join Noah and then He commanded them to go and the animals promptly obeyed, even animals obey their Creator and we humans need to obey our redeemer Jesus Christ to come into the ark.

ramalot:

2- why did God allow his creation (dinosaurs) get wiped out during this said flood?

"And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female" (Genesis 6:19).

It is true that most of the dinos got wiped out except for the ones saved in the ark and these were to later reproduce after their own kind after the flood.  It is not God's fault that the dinos got wiped out.  It is our fault because we sinned against God.  After Adam and Eve's disobedience to God brought death into the world the whole universe began to change because of God's judgment on our sin.  Sin brought suffering, sickness and death.  Apart from the Noah's Flood, sin brought changes in the weather, food supply and behaviour of people and animals.

ramalot:

keep in mind dinosaur fossils predate the timeline of creationism.

"And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind . . . And God saw that it was good.  Then God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, . . . Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good.  So the evening and the morning were the sixth day" (Genesis 1:25, 26, 31).

Dinos and people were actually created on the same day. Dinos were probably created a few hours before Adam but they were not millions of years as the evolutionists would like us to think. So, dinosaurs lived with people before, during and after the flood. Read Job 40:15-19 to see animal called Behemoth described, living with Job and his folks.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by thehomer: 6:45pm On Aug 31, 2011
ramalot:

@HISchild
Since you somehow know that the dinosaurs perished during the flood of noah, i guess it is safe to ask you:

1- why did Noah choose to abandon the poor dinosaurs to drown?
2- why did God allow his creation (dinosaurs) get wiped out during this said flood?

keep in mind dinosaur fossils predate the timeline of creationism.

What sorts of questions are these? We all know that the devil buried the bones to deceive us. In fact, he was caught on camera. See below. grin

Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PA1982(f): 7:07pm On Aug 31, 2011
Nice one, thehomer.
Do people really get through secondary schooling and yet believe the earth is 6,000 years old?
Do they believe the sun revolves around the earth?
The earth is flat?
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:48pm On Aug 31, 2011
your head is flat.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by vescucci(m): 11:23pm On Aug 31, 2011
This topic and some posts and endearingly silly. I smh but in a really good way
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by aletheia(m): 1:12am On Sep 01, 2011
@Topic: Yes. Go here
@Joagbaje: Do we really have to do this again? What sort of pastor jettisons the Word of God for man-made fables. One more time I ask you: what is the clear cut bible verses/evidence for your pre-Adam creation. No Dake's heretical teachings are acceptable.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PA1982(f): 8:02am On Sep 01, 2011
PAGAN 9JA, please try not argue with insults- it looks as though you're trying to show off all you know. wink

About the age of the Earth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Here's a good place to start to learn facts, not myths.
Every religion has its creation myths, so while it IS always surprising to see them defended in the light of what we know, it's not unexpected.
What IS unexpected is to find tectonic plates treated as an urban legend because they aren't mentioned in the bible.
Or the Flood treated as a provable, historical event., when we know it is not.

This is why I mentioned the fact that the Earth circles the Sun, not the other way around.
Christians in Europe persecuted people for showing this from the Renaissance onward, as we know.
It's a shame to see this happening once again in the 21st century.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by macayub(m): 10:42am On Sep 01, 2011
PA1982:

About the age of the Earth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

(Genesis 1:1-2)
In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
 Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep;

AS WITH other things that are misrepresented or misunderstood, the first chapter of the Bible deserves at least a fair hearing. The need is to investigate and determine whether it harmonizes with known facts, not to mold it to fit some theoretical framework. Also to be remembered, the Genesis account was not written to show the “how” of creation. Rather, it covers major events in a progressive way, describing what things were formed, the order in which they were formed and the time interval, or “day,” in which each first appeared.

When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on the fourth Genesis “day.” There the sun and moon are described as great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the sun appears to be a ‘greater light that rules the day’ and the moon a ‘lesser light that dominates the night.’—Genesis 1:14-18.

[b]The first part of Genesis indicates that the earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis “day,” [/b]though it does not say for how long. However, it does describe what earth’s condition was just before that first “day” began: “Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; ”—Genesis 1:2
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by lafile(m): 12:22pm On Sep 01, 2011
@HISchild, a few questions.

Does the existence of a pre-adamic world negate Genesis 1:1?

What did God mean when He told Adam to REplenish the Earth (Note that Replenish means to make complete again, supply what is lacking or used up)?

When did God create water? Note that water already existed in Gen 1:2 and there is no record of water being created in Gen 1.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 12:52pm On Sep 01, 2011
at last the mysteries of Genesis begin to unravel - i hope someone hits the trail quickly
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PA1982(f): 1:33pm On Sep 01, 2011
macayub-
In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep;

The Sun precedes the Earth by a long, long time, so this 'darkness' is a human construct, not factual.

Every religion has their own particular creation myth and the OT is neither more nor less mythical than any other.
In fact, the OT creation myths differ among themselves, depending on which OT book you read.


Surely, in the 21st century, we have moved on from this sort of mythos, as we have moved on from believing the Sun circles the Earth.
Or that the Earth is flat.
Or that the stars 'hang' in the sky.

Who needs to believe such stories are literally true?
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by macayub(m): 3:31pm On Sep 01, 2011
PA1982
The Sun precedes the Earth by a long, long time, so this 'darkness' is a human construct, not factual.

Were you there?

Some scientists belief that earth is older than the sun since it had long ago cool off while the Sun is still burning, they belief that one day the Sun too will stop burning.

To me Genesis account still sound logical and reasonable. I have seen a lot of science fictions movies on Discovery Channels trying to recreate the history of Dinosaur and the earth which to me is no more than watching Ben 10 animation.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:58pm On Sep 01, 2011
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:49pm On Sep 01, 2011
PA1982:

PAGAN 9JA, please try not argue with insults- it looks as though you're trying to show off all you know. wink

About the age of the Earth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Here's a good place to start to learn facts, not myths.
Every religion has its creation myths, so while it IS always surprising to see them defended in the light of what we know, it's not unexpected.
What IS unexpected is to find tectonic plates treated as an urban legend because they aren't mentioned in the bible.
Or the Flood treated as a provable, historical event., when we know it is not.

This is why I mentioned the fact that the Earth circles the Sun, not the other way around.
Christians in Europe persecuted people for showing this from the Renaissance onward, as we know.
It's a shame to see this happening once again in the 21st century.

thats exactly wat im saying. u xtians r spreading lies so i got a bit fed-up explaining sense to you peoples. sad
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:03pm On Sep 01, 2011
Where do you think dinosaurs came from?

According to evolutionists millions of years is ascribed to the fossil record.   The origin of Dinosaurs which they claim to be 220 million years ago prompts us to ask the question: 

Where did the dinosaurs come from?

The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs, Dr. David Norman, 1985, p. 186.

"The question of the origin of dinosaurs is one that has puzzled paleontologists for many years."

Dr Norman is a lecturer in Zoology

This is a quote from an authoritative book:

"Where did dinosaurs come from?  That apparently simple question has been the subject of intense debate amongst scientists for over 150 years, . . ."
 
The Natural History Museum Book of Dinosaurs, 1998, p.12

What is their evidence? 

They claim:

"Thecondonts.  Small lizards that ran on two legs and gave rise to the giant reptiles collectively known as dinosaurs"

The Nature of Life, 1995. 

This is the only evidence presented in any of the major biology textbooks.

This makes us ask these simple questions:

1. How could a small reptile evolve into a large dinosaur?
2. Shouldn’t there be thousands (millions) of intermediate fossils in the cambrian explosion?
3. Why don’t we see intermediate dinosaur forms in museums?

Great claims require real evidence.

Let me tell you what I believe, which is the Biblical Model:

"And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and everything that creepth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good . . . And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." -- Genesis 1:25,31

People and dinosaurs lived together.  The evolution story is based on faith not real evidence.  Gen.1:24-25,31; Job 40:15-24; 41; Isa.30:6;

If evolution is unable to provide the thousands of transitions for the origin of dinosaurs then it is without a foundation.  Now that we have an understanding of the foundation of evolution which is lacking.  Why is evolution without a foundation?  Because there is no natural process that can cause life to originate.

Why should I accept evolution when you cannot produce the evidence?  I already have a faith.  Tell me about your faith and I will tell you about my faith.

Therefore, the logical conclusion is that it is rational to believe that God and not unknown events created dinosaurs.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by Joagbaje(m): 11:20pm On Sep 01, 2011
@love king

LoveKing:

@Joagbaje
but how did you know that pls?

There was once a world before the time of Adam. Science and bible harmonised on this. The earth is millions of years old . The post below gives a little light.

macayub:

The first part of Genesis indicates that the earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis “day,” [/b]though it does not say for how long. However, it does describe what earth’s condition was just before that first “day” began: “Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; ”—Genesis 1:2

The gap between genesis 1:1 and 2 is found in other scriptures by prophets such as .

[b]Jeremiah 4:23-25

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

Dinosaurs and other pre historic animals existed and perished when that world was destroyed by a flood. This is not noah's flood.

2 Peter 3:5-6
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:58pm On Sep 01, 2011
People and dinosaurs lived together and ate each other.

wow OLAADEGBU. u r a genius. tongue
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:51am On Sep 02, 2011
Joagbaje:

@love king

There was once a world before the time of Adam. Science and bible harmonised on this. The earth is millions of years old . The post below gives a little light.

You mean to say that you had to compromise so as to be in harmony with fallible and sinful evolutionists?

Joagbaje:

The gap between genesis 1:1 and 2 is found in other scriptures by prophets such as .

Jeremiah 4:23-25
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.


Dinosaurs and other pre historic animals existed and perished when that world was destroyed by a flood. This is not noah's flood.

2 Peter 3:5-6
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


Jeremiah was a prophet who saw judgment in future events and compared it with the formlessness and emptiness of the earth at the beginning of creation and this only suggest the extent of God's judgment that was to come. Jeremiah was not saying that the state of the earth then was a result of God's judgment on it. And as for Peter, I do not have to tell you that he was referring to Noah's Flood.
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by EvilBrain1(m): 1:43am On Sep 02, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Where do you think dinosaurs came from?

According to evolutionists millions of years is ascribed to the fossil record.   The origin of Dinosaurs which they claim to be 220 million years ago prompts us to ask the question: 

Where did the dinosaurs come from?

The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs, Dr. David Norman, 1985, p. 186.

"The question of the origin of dinosaurs is one that has puzzled paleontologists for many years."

Dr Norman is a lecturer in Zoology

This is a quote from an authoritative book:

"Where did dinosaurs come from?  That apparently simple question has been the subject of intense debate amongst scientists for over 150 years, . . ."
 
The Natural History Museum Book of Dinosaurs, 1998, p.12

What is their evidence? 

They claim:

"Thecondonts.  Small lizards that ran on two legs and gave rise to the giant reptiles collectively known as dinosaurs"

The Nature of Life, 1995. 

This is the only evidence presented in any of the major biology textbooks.

This makes us ask these simple questions:

1. How could a small reptile evolve into a large dinosaur?
2. Shouldn’t there be thousands (millions) of intermediate fossils in the cambrian explosion?
3. Why don’t we see intermediate dinosaur forms in museums?

Great claims require real evidence.

Let me tell you what I believe, which is the Biblical Model:

"And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and everything that creepth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good . . . And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." -- Genesis 1:25,31

People and dinosaurs lived together.  The evolution story is based on faith not real evidence.  Gen.1:24-25,31; Job 40:15-24; 41; Isa.30:6;

If evolution is unable to provide the thousands of transitions for the origin of dinosaurs then it is without a foundation.  Now that we have an understanding of the foundation of evolution which is lacking.  Why is evolution without a foundation?  Because there is no natural process that can cause life to originate.

Why should I accept evolution when you cannot produce the evidence?  I already have a faith.  Tell me about your faith and I will tell you about my faith.

Therefore, the logical conclusion is that it is rational to believe that God and not unknown events created dinosaurs.


I have a much better explanation: Adam and Eve were dinosaurs! Its so simple and it explains everything. Can I have my Nobel prize now please? I prefer cash if you don't mind.

Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by PA1982(f): 8:06am On Sep 02, 2011
^^^^Like.

I can't believe people quote 2 Peter in a discussion about dinosaurs!
After all, it's pretty well accepted 2 Peter is a forgery.
Get real, posters.

macayub wrote:
Some scientists belief that earth is older than the sun since it had long ago cool off while the Sun is still burning, they belief that one day the Sun too will stop burning.

That's very very good.
You do know why the sun 'burns' don't you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
For starters.

OLAADEGBU, your information is so out-dated it's pathetic.
It's the sort of thing you'd expect to read from a religious fanatic in the American deep South, not someone in the 21st century.
And no, I'm not mocking you.
I know that one day you'll understand the nonsense you've been fed is simply that- nonsense.

Hint- the intermediate forms are all around you!
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by Joagbaje(m): 8:32am On Sep 02, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

You mean to say that you had to compromise so as to be in harmony with fallible and sinful evolutionists?

It is not a compromise , it is truth. Dinosaurs dates millions of years. We can't deny that .

Jeremiah was a prophet who saw judgment in future events and compared it with the formlessness and emptiness of the earth at the beginning of creation and this only suggest the extent of God's judgment that was to come.

The earth will never be empty. Judgement to come will not empty the earth. Look at it again .

Jeremiah 4:23-25
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.


Jeremiah was not saying that the state of the earth then was a result of God's judgment on it. And as for Peter, I do not have to tell you that he was referring to Noah's Flood.

The flood of Noah only affected the earth . The flood Peter refers to here affected heaven and earth . The only time something like that happened was in the pre adamite world.

Have you wondered why most scientific discovery of those fossil claim that a flood must have destroyed them millions of years ?
Re: Did God Create Dinosaurs? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:51am On Sep 02, 2011

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