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Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Sunofgod(m): 8:02pm On Aug 30, 2011
Libya-Nigeria - Former Nigerian Petroleum Minister Tam David-West has described as 'rash and embarrassing' Nigeria's speedy recognition of Libya's rebel National Transition Council (NTC).

In a newspaper interview published Tuesday, the outspoken Professor of Virology said Nigeria's action was 'hasty', especially because Col. Mouamar Kadhafi was still alive and yet to capitulate.

“Right now, Ghadaffi is still Libya’s leader. Despite the rebels’ onslaught and help of NATO’s excessive bombings, he is yet to be caught, nor has his forces surrendered. What (Nigeria's President Goodluck) Jonathan has done is absolutely wrong, infantile and embarrassing to Nigeria.

'He has no circumspection of the situation. He and his advisers ought to be sacked,” David-West said in the interview, published by the local Sun newspaper Tuesday.

He said Nigeria should have acted under the aegis of the African Union (AU), instead of taking a unilateral stand.

“One is not taking sides in Libya’s internal affairs, what we are talking of here is decency and propriety. I’m not saying a dictator anywhere should be tolerated, but let’s allow countries to solve their problems themselves and give the world an alternative.What has happened shows that neither Jonathan nor his advisers are wise. We have mediocre running this country.”

Nigeria was among the first set of the African nations to recognize the NTC, even though the AU decided later that it would not yet recognize the transitional council.

Some local commentators have also hailed the Nigerian government for recognizing the rebels.

So far, only a dozen African countries have recognized the NTC: Botswana, Guinea, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Rwanda, Senegal, Tunisia, Gabon, Burkina Faso, Benin and Djibouti.

http://www.afriquejet.com/nigeria-recognizing-libya-ntc-2011083021429.html
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by werepeLeri: 8:04pm On Aug 30, 2011
This Tam David man should just shut up.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Pukkah: 8:07pm On Aug 30, 2011
I just hope that Mr Jonathan would not simply vote with his feet one day going by the unceasing and daily barrage of bashing against him.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Gbawe: 8:18pm On Aug 30, 2011
Pukkah:

I just hope that Mr Jonathan would not simply vote with his feet one day going by the unceasing and daily barrage of bashing against him.

There is no smoke without fire. Even as David West has his issues with GEJ , it is hard not to understand why criticism of GEJ is so high . IF GEJ even only chose 1 thing Nigerians have been demanding , just 1 thing, to be resolute and determined about then you will see many behind him. When GEJ is doing and saying exactly the opposite of what Nigerians want , how can anyone get behind him? Nigerians want our bloated democracy, universally criticised,  reduced ASAP . Yet GEJ's first announcement after winning the election was that "leaner Government not possible" and the disbanding of the committee that adviced him to trim waste, refrain from profligacy and bring down our recurrent expenditure drastically !!!!

What are Nigerians to make of how Mr. President promised a "transformational team" only for Nigerians to see a cabinet of AGIPs and mediocre administrators with discredited folks like Adoke Bello making it back to the jobs they underperformed in? When Nigerians know that our Refineries need to be privatised ASAP , what are they to make of how GEJ directed the home of corruption NNPC to revive our refineries over the next 2 years? Are we talking about the moribund NNPC that has only a recent legacy of failure, incompetence , mismanagement, recklessness and gross corruption? I could go on !!!! Suffice to say Nigerians are not turning on GEJ for nothing. Nigerians , as people "living in hell" (courtesy of Yar Adua), have been more than patient enough.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Nobody: 9:01pm On Aug 30, 2011
Sun of god:

Libya-Nigeria - Former Nigerian Petroleum Minister Tam David-West has described as 'rash and embarrassing' Nigeria's speedy recognition of Libya's rebel National Transition Council (NTC).

In a newspaper interview published Tuesday, the outspoken Professor of Virology said Nigeria's action was 'hasty', especially because Col. Mouamar Kadhafi was still alive and yet to capitulate.

“Right now, Ghadaffi is still Libya’s leader. Despite the rebels’ onslaught and help of NATO’s excessive bombings, he is yet to be caught, nor has his forces surrendered. What (Nigeria's President Goodluck) Jonathan has done is absolutely wrong, infantile and embarrassing to Nigeria.

'He has no circumspection of the situation. He and his advisers ought to be sacked,” David-West said in the interview, published by the local Sun newspaper Tuesday.

He said Nigeria should have acted under the aegis of the African Union (AU), instead of taking a unilateral stand.

“One is not taking sides in Libya’s internal affairs, what we are talking of here is decency and propriety. I’m not saying a dictator anywhere should be tolerated, but let’s allow countries to solve their problems themselves and give the world an alternative.What has happened shows that neither Jonathan nor his advisers are wise. We have mediocre running this country.”

Nigeria was among the first set of the African nations to recognize the NTC, even though the AU decided later that it would not yet recognize the transitional council.

Some local commentators have also hailed the Nigerian government for recognizing the rebels.

So far, only a dozen African countries have recognized the NTC: Botswana, Guinea, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, Rwanda, Senegal, Tunisia, Gabon, Burkina Faso, Benin and Djibouti.

http://www.afriquejet.com/nigeria-recognizing-libya-ntc-2011083021429.html

It was an hasty decision,which did not make sense in the short and longrun.The African union position is right.Nigeria is just disorgansing the union .
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Sunofgod(m): 9:16pm On Aug 30, 2011
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by sartorius(m): 9:35pm On Aug 30, 2011
johnathan is an a*** licker, very embarrasing
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by hbrednic: 9:38pm On Aug 30, 2011
GEJ made a big judgemental error by his recognition of the benghazi terrorist rats.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Nobody: 10:11pm On Aug 30, 2011
GEJ was indeed hasty to say the least, same people killing any black, Nigerians down to black libyans

Ain't a Gaddafi fan but

All NATO has done is embolden a terrorist islamist movement.

Don't forget to add 'racist' too.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libyans-dont-like-people-with-dark-skin-but-some-are-innocent-2345859.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304887904576395143328336026.html?mod=WSJ_article_comments#articleTabs%3Dcomments
Currently Libya is awash with small arms to heavy artillery and SAMs causing a major security concern to Africa in general

Take a cursory look at how this may benefit say Boko Haram directly or indirectly  undecided

Only country seperating us from Libya is Niger. Don't need to say much more bout our incredibly porous borders
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by PointB: 10:35pm On Aug 30, 2011
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by seanet02: 11:47pm On Aug 30, 2011
Odechukwu no get brain simple
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by cap28: 11:59pm On Aug 30, 2011
At least we still have some politicians in nigeria who can still think straight
When you look at the way that america treats african leaders you can see that they have no iota of respect for our continent, think about it, a criminal gang who have been helped into office by an equally criminal gang of terrorists are now making veiled threats to the remaining african countries that have refused to accept the criminal TNC, a criminal gang that are still going from house to house in tripoli massacring black people and yet america still expects african countries to turn a blind eye to all of that and accept them. this is further evidence that the west have zero regard for africans.
Goodluck Jonathan and the other african pawns that have accepted this murderous regime are a disgrace.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by koruji(m): 11:59pm On Aug 30, 2011
What African Union are we talking about here? - oh you mean the group of no-good leaders whose chief objective is to sit tight till death like Mr. Khaddafi planned.

I actually agree with GEJ's positions here, but he probably didn't need to say it given that Nigeria is itself going through dire straits. However, the Western powers must have being seeking Nigeria's support, especially given South Africa's attitude. GEJ seems to be a tard too happy to oblige Western requests.

Bottomline, SERVES KHADDAFI RIGHT. Nobody called him into our affairs when he went public several months ago suggesting that Nigeria ought to be divided. [size=14pt]Like GEJ, Khaddafi was not necessarily wrong, but it wasn't any of his business[/size].


olas2u:

It was an hasty decision,which did not make sense in the short and longrun.The African union position is right.Nigeria is just disorgansing the union .
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by koruji(m): 12:01am On Aug 31, 2011
You indeed have a point about the treatment of African leaders. The problem is that most of them deserve very little respect. The amount of respect they deserve is the same as they give to their people  - close to zero in my estimation.

cap28:

At least we still have some politicians in nigeria who can still think straight
When you look at the way that america treats african leaders you can see that they have no iota of respect for our continent, think about it, a criminal gang who have been helped into office by an equally criminal gang of terrorists are now making veiled threats to the remaining african countries that have refused to accept the criminal TNC, a criminal gang that are still going from house to house in tripoli massacring black people and yet america still expects african countries to turn a blind eye to all of that and accept them. this is further evidence that the west have zero regard for africans.
Goodluck Jonathan and the other african pawns that have accepted this murderous regime are a disgrace.


Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Beaf: 12:17am On Aug 31, 2011
koruji:

What African Union are we talking about here? - oh you mean the group of no-good leaders whose chief objective is to sit tight till death like Mr. Khaddafi planned.

I actually agree with GEJ's positions here, but he probably didn't need to say it given that Nigeria is itself going through dire straits. However, the Western powers must have being seeking Nigeria's support, especially given South Africa's attitude. GEJ seems to be a tard too happy to oblige Western requests.

Bottomline, SERVES KHADDAFI RIGHT. Nobody called him into our affairs when he went public several months ago suggesting that Nigeria ought to be divided. [size=14pt]Like GEJ, Khaddafi was not necessarily wrong, but it wasn't any of his business[/size].

I think they are talking about the friends of the "brother leader." grin

Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Beaf: 12:18am On Aug 31, 2011
More AU pictures. LOLZ!

Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by cap28: 12:38am On Aug 31, 2011
koruji:

What African Union are we talking about here? - oh you mean the group of no-good leaders whose chief objective is to sit tight till death like Mr. Khaddafi planned.

I actually agree with GEJ's positions here, but he probably didn't need to say it given that Nigeria is itself going through dire straits. However, the Western powers must have being seeking Nigeria's support, especially given South Africa's attitude. GEJ seems to be a tard too happy to oblige Western requests.

Bottomline, SERVES KHADDAFI RIGHT. Nobody called him into our affairs when he went public several months ago suggesting that Nigeria ought to be divided. [size=14pt]Like GEJ, Khaddafi was not necessarily wrong, but it wasn't any of his business[/size].



On this occassion i back the AU's stance - they are right in their refusal to recognise a murderous gang who i hear are getting ready to institute sharia law in libya. All throughout the conflict in libya the AU have appealed to america and the EU to stop the bombing and allow a peaceful resolution but NATO were not interested in this becuase their aim was to foment total chaos in libya, well since you say it serves gaddafi right, hope you are bracing yourself for africom becuase it is headed towards nigeria. if you think NATO's expansionist plans will just stop in libya you have another think coming. Africom which is the military wing of the pentagon is now moving foward with their earlier plan to militarise and recolonise the entire continent, the next targeted countries are eritrea, zimbabwe and sudan, nigeria and angola are targets also because of the oil reserves which america seeks to "secure" out of the reach of the chinese (just like they've done with libya)

NATO's long term plan for africa is to set up military bases all over it destabilise it by using the divide and rule tactics which are currently being used in nigeria by way of boko haram and thereby plunge the entire continent into a state of permanent chaos which will leave it weak and ineffectual.

hope you're looking forward to all of that.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by edoyad(m): 12:53am On Aug 31, 2011
koruji:

What African Union are we talking about here? - oh you mean the group of no-good leaders whose chief objective is to sit tight till death like Mr. Khaddafi planned.

I actually agree with GEJ's positions here, but he probably didn't need to say it given that Nigeria is itself going through dire straits. However, the Western powers must have being seeking Nigeria's support, especially given South Africa's attitude. GEJ seems to be a tard too happy to oblige Western requests.

Bottomline, SERVES KHADDAFI RIGHT. Nobody called him into our affairs when he went public several months ago suggesting that Nigeria ought to be divided. [size=14pt]Like GEJ, Khaddafi was not necessarily wrong, but it wasn't any of his business[/size].

Thumbs up, African Union that would standby and let innocent people get slaughtered in the name of solidarity ? It's time for revolutionary ideas to move this dump of a continent.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by koruji(m): 1:16am On Aug 31, 2011
The AU came too late to the table in my opinion. They should have covered Khaddafi's mouth so he didn't promise to go from house to house to destroy the rebels. It was that statement that gave NATO visions of Kosovo, Rwanda & Darfur all rolled into one - plus, admittedly, the "little" matter of Libyan oil flow. So yes, one might complain about the excesses of the rebels, but the alternative under Khaddafi would have been much worse. The one who caused it all was the ruler who thought that 42 years of rule was not enough.

Let them declare sharia law - we have seen how that is working out in nations & subnations (aka Nigeria's Zamfara state et al) that have abandoned common sense fitting of the 21st century.

All these re-colonize Africa theories are not really necessary, thanks to our puppet, incompetent and non-people serving crop of African leaders. The West does not need a single army to take the rest of what they don't already control on the continent. All they have to do is open swiss accounts for the AU HOS. Their opposition to Khaddafi's removal is not because of love for Africa, but because they are basically in the same shoes - corrupt & sit-tight. If the West is bringing armies to Africa it is only because al-qaeda is finding our continent easy target and al-qaeda represents a real threat.

cap28:

On this occassion i back the AU's stance - they are right in their refusal to recognise a murderous gang who i hear are getting ready to institute sharia law in libya. All throughout the conflict in libya the AU have appealed to america and the EU to stop the bombing and allow a peaceful resolution but NATO were not interested in this becuase their aim was to foment total chaos in libya, well since you say it serves gaddafi right, hope you are bracing yourself for africom becuase it is headed towards nigeria. if you think NATO's expansionist plans will just stop in libya you have another think coming. Africom which is the military wing of the pentagon is now moving foward with their earlier plan to militarise and recolonise the entire continent, the next targeted countries are eritrea, zimbabwe and sudan, nigeria and angola are targets also because of the oil reserves which america seeks to "secure" out of the reach of the chinese (just like they've done with libya)

NATO's long term plan for africa is to set up military bases all over it destabilise it by using the divide and rule tactics which are currently being used in nigeria by way of boko haram and thereby plunge the entire continent into a state of permanent chaos which will leave it weak and ineffectual.

hope you're looking forward to all of that.


Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Yeske2(m): 1:42am On Aug 31, 2011
Are some guys blaming the Libyan people for taking thier destiny in thier own hands and ousting a despot of many decades? It is right to legitimize the wish of the Libyan people by recognising the rebels. GEJ was right here so Tam West and the toothless AU should all STFU.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by edoyad(m): 2:38am On Aug 31, 2011
koruji:

The AU came too late to the table in my opinion. They should have covered Khaddafi's mouth so he didn't promise to go from house to house to destroy the rebels. It was that statement that gave NATO visions of Kosovo, Rwanda & Darfur all rolled into one - plus, admittedly, the "little" matter of Libyan oil flow. So yes, one might complain about the excesses of the rebels, but the alternative under Khaddafi would have been much worse. The one who caused it all was the ruler who thought that 42 years of rule was not enough.

Let them declare sharia law - we have seen how that is working out in nations & subnations (aka Nigeria's Zamfara state et al) that have abandoned common sense fitting of the 21st century.

All these re-colonize Africa theories are not really necessary, thanks to our puppet, incompetent and non-people serving crop of African leaders. The West does not need a single army to take the rest of what they don't already control on the continent. All they have to do is open swiss accounts for the AU HOS. Their opposition to Khaddafi's removal is not because of love for Africa, but because they are basically in the same shoes - corrupt & sit-tight. If the West is bringing armies to African it is only because al-qaeda is finding our continent easy target and al-qaeda represents a real threat.

Yeske!:

Are some guys blaming the Libyan people for taking thier destiny in thier own hands and ousting a despot of many decades? It is right to legitimize the wish of the Libyan people by recognising the rebels. GEJ was right here so Tam West and the toothless AU should all STFU.
Some people lack the capacity to think critically for a second. All of sudden, the useless A U that serves as the den for the most corrupt despots on earth has become the fountain of wisdom.
Let me ask them, if GEJ decided to stay on indefinitely who would you want on your side, the A U or African Leaders like GEJ of now ?
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Johnpaul2k2(m): 9:29am On Aug 31, 2011
Frustrated Former Nigerian Petroleum Minister angry angry angry angry
what was your achievement when in office apart from negotiating PRICE INCREASE WITH ARMAJIRIS cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by jawjaw1: 9:52am On Aug 31, 2011
As far as I am concerned the AU leaders should cover their heads in shame. They have no influence whatsoever beacuse they know, and the world knows that they know, that they have no pedigree when it comes to leadership. They are just a bunch of sit tight greedy leaders who can't even solve their own problems let alone that of another country. Do you think the west needs their opinion or assistance to chase one of their own who has been sitting an ascribing the status of God for 42 years over his country men? The answer is no.

Lets look at it in perspective. How many times did the AU leaders try to negotiate in the crisis? What did they achieve? They simply couldnt succeed because they couldnt look Gadaffi in the eye and tell him 'bros time don reach wey you go go na!'. They couldn't because a good number of them are doing the same thing in their countries and they were also beneficiaries of Gadaffi's generosity.

It is only a madman like Gadaffi who would not see what was coming his way. Libya's closest neighbours on opposite ends, Algeria and Egypt, who have almost the same culture, had just disposed of their sit tight leaders by public revolt. It was bound to come his way. And what did he do? He attacked the protesters with guns and tanks. Thats the kind of madness that you develop with sitting and enjoying absolute power for over 40 yrs.

I am not a GEJ supporter, didnt even vote for him, but for once I support his action of recognising the Libyan NTC. Some members of the Arab league, who are normally supportive of arabs worldwide, had already abandoned Gadaffi and were contributing weapons and logistics to NATO. Then the question is what was AU waiting for?
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Rgp92: 9:54am On Aug 31, 2011
I can smell it  grin grin GEJ is a one timer. . . and the last president of Nigeria!
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Greenslim: 9:55am On Aug 31, 2011
it was easy for him to blame the president, but his contribution to his local government is not visible talkless of nation as whole. shut man
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Fimmy(m): 9:57am On Aug 31, 2011
our president is nothing but a clown, how will he feel if the south african Government decides to support Boko Haram in Nigeria, he felt cause US was in supoport of them ,he too has to say someting
Uncle GEJ, please think before you talk after all you claim you have a PHD
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Ojukwu24(m): 9:58am On Aug 31, 2011
Na wah oh. In Nigeria ppl no get S.H.A.M.E at all. A person who has failed as a leader will come out to tell another person what to do. What did he achieve as a minister? Abeg, hide your face.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by dextac: 10:18am On Aug 31, 2011
who is tam david-west? arrant nonsense!, AU, SA can go to hell, why are they supportive of Ghaddafi, for once GEJ has got it right,
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Nobody: 10:36am On Aug 31, 2011
This man should just shut up; I hate his guts. Wonder why the press keeps giving prominence to his foolish views when it's so obvious that he has deep psycho-mental problems. From wildly supporting Buhari and his CPC-orchestrated post-election violence to ranting about Goodluck's eligibility for president - all his views reek of senility, if not outright dementia. So Nigeria should have stood by Ghaddafi? This confused 'professor' of nonsense needs euthanasia to put him out of his misery.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by OTEGA1: 10:43am On Aug 31, 2011
Who is the mother fucker call tam david west.he must only speak on matters on virus in biology not on international affairs. Gej recognition of the NTC is legal after all no body voted Gadfi into government he arrived there by might, so there is nothing wrong for the same might to be used to get him out of office.

Secondly, the west does not need to respect us here in africa cos we have shown over time we cannot be responsible and do the right thing, our duty for now is to follow their leadership as they lead.cos the poverty in africa in the midst of plenty, has  shown the level of corrupt government  in africa.

we will always line up for aid to africa, africa challenges like  libya was a serious issue but  the entire african union were afraid to speak to the animal to step down, simple dey were afraid; if not for the west only God know wat that animal would have done.

This is a warning  to all greedy dictators in africa to know that no matter how strong they think they are they will always be dealt with.


Hunger in the horn of africa is a serious issue and the AU was waIting till the same west sent food and relief materials to assist before the au saw it as an issue.i AM ASHAME OF THIS AFRICA UNION.

even me no respect african leaders talkless of the west.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 31, 2011
OTEGA1:

Who is the mother fucker call tam david west.he must only speak on matters on virus in biology not on international affairs. Gej recognition of the NTC is legal after all no body voted Gadfi into government he arrived there by might, so there is nothing wrong for the same might to be used to get him out of office.

Secondly, the west does not need to respect us here in africa cos we have shown over time we cannot be responsible and do the right thing, our duty for now is to follow their leadership as they lead.cos the poverty in africa in the midst of plenty, has  shown the level of corrupt government  in africa.

we will always line up for aid to africa, africa challenges like  libya was a serious issue but  the entire african union were afraid to speak to the animal to step down, simple dey were afraid; if not for the west only God know wat that animal would have done.

This is a warning  to all greedy dictators in africa to know that no matter how strong they think they are they will always be dealt with.


Hunger in the horn of africa is a serious issue and the AU was waIting till the same west sent food and relief materials to assist before the au saw it as an issue.i AM ASHAME OF THIS AFRICA UNION.

even me no respect african leaders talkless of the west.

You are so ignorant,so ashmed of you.
Re: Tam David-West Slams GEJ For Recognizing Libyan Rebels by twinstaiye(m): 11:02am On Aug 31, 2011
Can you blame GEJ? He is reading the handwriting on the wall. He is telling the whole world that should anything happen to his government either by a coup or uprising, the external help is guaranteed.

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