Nigeria is a useless country. A country where people see other people as settlers when there is supposed to be one constitution that gives fundamental right to every citizen. These Bini people do not know that the Ijaws of Rivers state migrated from their ancestral homes in Edo and even as far as Ondo. It is a shame. Nigeria is simply not a one nation for all. I just hope the Binis do not start a war they can not handle.

^^^^^

You don't really understand the situation. They declared a made-up Ijaw "kingdom" (the abuse of that word in Nigeria is ridiculous) and elevated an ordinary head of an Ijaw settlement to kingly status in an area that had historically been (in pre-colonial times) under the Ezomo of Benin (who was himself subject to the Oba) in order to claim that they had an Ijaw kingdom there (Gelegele) and to claim ownership of the area. The entire area under the supervision of the Ezomo was named after an important village (Gelegele) that was a point of contact with European traders.

And for the record, it's not all Ijaws that claim to originate from Benin. Only a minority.

Now if you claim that the settler/indigene issue is being misused by the Binis and not the Ijaws, then why are Ijaws attacking ordinary Binis that they find in areas that they think are "theirs"?

Why does there have to be a so-called Ijaw traditional ruler of Gelegele if in fact, Gelegele is open land for anyone to settle on? Who should care even the least that there are even any Ijaws there if it's just open land not historically owned by anybody? Your argument makes no sense. If it's open land for anyone to settle on regardless of background, then the Ijaw "militants" should be arrested and tried immediately.

^^^^

You are the biggest tribalist around

Ak47man, dont mistook the non violence nature of Benins for cowardness. That is the usual thinking of you ibos. Anybody that is not violent in nature is a coward. Nonsensical ibo reasoning.

seanet02:

Ak47man, [size=18pt]dont mistook[/size] the [size=15pt]non violence nature [/size]of [size=18pt]Benins[/size] for [size=18pt]cowardness[/size]. That is the usual thinking of you ibos. Anybody that is not violent in nature is a coward. Nonsensical ibo reasoning.

What "kyne" English be that.

Naija English sha. I am ashamed. And this guy here graduated from UI, our best university.

ROFLMAO

mitofag:

^^^^

You are the biggest tribalist around

Maybe you should provide some proof, fstranger.

The Ijaws have had disputes with:


Ibibios
Yorubas
Itsekiris
Urhobos

and I think one or two other groups

There's nothing tribalistic about responding to a bizarre argument supporting their claims.




By the way, that "fagamite" moniker was pretty funny.

You should probably end that feud already though. It's from months ago.

Mitofag or WTF did you call your name, you are a Mor0n, we did not come to nairaland for English competition.
That is one of the reasons majority of you 'alaru' abroad can not return home, your brain have been ***** while you are on shit duty. Ode buruku

PhysicsQED:

Maybe you should provide some proof, fstranger.

The Ijaws have had disputes with:


Ibibios
Yorubas
Itsekiris
Urhobos

and I think one or two other groups

There's nothing tribalistic about responding to a bizarre argument supporting their claims.




By the way, that "fagamite" moniker was pretty funny.

You should probably end that feud already though. It's from months ago.

1 Ijaws against Ilajes in Ondo State

2 Ijaws against Binis in Edo State

3 Ijaws against Itsekiris in Delta State

4 Ijaws against Urhobos (Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe etc.),all in Delta State

5 Ijaws against Ikwerres in Rivers State

6 Ijaws against Ogonis in Rivers State

7 Ijaws against Ibibios in Akwa Ibom State

8 Ijaws against Yorubas in Ajegunle; Lagos State

I wonder why the resident M0ron of NL, Seantte had to mention Igbo when the issue clearly btwn the Bini and Ijo.

seanet02:

Ak47man, dont mistook the non violence nature of Benins for cowardness. That is the usual thinking of you ibos. Anybody that is not violent in nature is a coward. Nonsensical ibo reasoning.

shut up mumu! when the ijaws kidnapped your oba in ondo state why didn't you fight them? bloody baboon couldn't do nothing rather the whole village scatter as if their was a natural disaster

Lol @ Ak47, hahahah that was shameful. Big ethnic group getting bullied by a minority group whose population is so negligible.

udezue:

Lol @ Ak47, hahahah that was shameful. Big ethnic group getting bullied by a minority group whose population is so negligible.

you are right! i advice them not to start something they cant finish is better they accept leave and let leave

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seanet02:

[size=33pt]dont mistook[/size]

2.

seanet02:

[size=33pt]the non violence nature of Benins[/size]

3.

seanet02:

[size=33pt]cowardness[/size]

Yei! Headache wan wound me!

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seanet02:

Ak47man, dont mistook the non violence nature of Benins for cowardness. That is the usual thinking of you ibos. Anybody that is not violent in nature is a coward. Nonsensical[b] ibo reasoning[/b].

this is the sort of loud mouth nature i was talking about

must you talk if u don't know what to say

how does Igbo = bini ijaw ?

@mito[b][size=14pt]gay[/size][/b]

I think you are really SE[b][size=14pt]gay[/size][/b]O masquerading.

You enjoy spotting grammatical error and fixing them.
You are good at it sometimes.

@ seanet - why do you always turn sensible topics to childish name calling

Just wondering how Igbo suddenly appeared here or are the bashers around already?

I have not seen anywhere inhabited by the Ijaws that is peaceful  Warri in Delta State, Ondo, Rivers, Bayelsa and now Edo State.

They are potentially more dangerous than the Hausa/Fulani.

#Vanguard#

alj_harem:

1 Ijaws against Ilajes in Ondo State

2 Ijaws against Binis in Edo State

3 Ijaws against Itsekiris in Delta State

4 Ijaws against Urhobos (Ogbe Ijo, Gbarigolo, Olota, Okweagbe etc.),all in Delta State

5 Ijaws against Ikwerres in Rivers State

6 Ijaws against Ogonis in Rivers State

7 Ijaws against Ibibios in Akwa Ibom State

8 Ijaws against Yorubas in Ajegunle; Lagos State

These Ijaws seems to be fighting with everybody. They really needs to be carefull. If katakata (mitifag, back off) should break, THE RETARDEEN wont be able to save them oooo

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Re: Ijaw Itsekiri Crisis Again
« #143 on: July 24, 2011, 01:07 PM »
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@ Ibime
Ibime yeee, tebraa? Iyonfaa? Owei tobor, Efideye, Egberiye, Egberifadeya. Ibimeyee, you are confusing Bomadi with Warri, you may be right in the past when all Ijaws in delta were claiming to be Itsekiri but you are presently very wrong to say Ijaws migrated from the present Warri kingdon to river state. In the past ,the whole of Bomadi, Burutu and Patani were under Warri province.(not warri kingdom). May be that is why your grand father told you they are from Warri. Moreover if he had told you Patani or Burutu, you may be thinking that the town is in Bayelsa state that is why he use Warri which is more popular and Itsekiri made it so. The accommodating nature of Itsekiri is what is causing all this rubbish and hence fort Ijaw fisher men will no longer be allowed into Itsekiri and Urhobo community to fish. Their settlement is very easy to construct, they don't need cement. They just peg four sticks, raft the floor with wood, get raffia palm to cover the top. they start producing minimalistic children without any form of education. The next thing you hear na my community yeee. They know you will win them in court, they don't believe in court all they use is violence. The benefit of the violence to them is already on the line of regression, because other ethnic groups are already acquiring weapons of mass destruction to curtail them effectively. 10 years ago Itsekiris produce land mines locally and use it to massacre Ijaws. The 2010 and 2011 model of the land mine is out, we are progressing, very soon we will have a mini nuclear reactor, Itsekiris are the Israelis of Niger Delta.
When the war started newly, Itsekiris were not prepared, they were just running into Itsekiri villages at will and it became a tea party for them. They use to come from the creek into Warri city to mark Itsekiri house for destruction, they will over power the army and enter warri and start misbehaving. The irony is that they don't have houses in Warri, all the beautiful houses in Warri are owned by Itsekiris and other tribes. They live in tactch house in the creek. Along the line Itsekiri develop resistance and when we started bringing our weapons they became newer and more sophisticated than their own.
The last time their warriors attempted to enter Warri, they were dessimated by our land mines and rockets. The remnant of them living in rented apartment in Warri city threatened to avenge the death of their warrors in 48 hrs, withing the 48hrs we ran into them under the rain, we chase all of them from the city of Warri, our young girls were on top of vehichcle shooting sporadically with AK47 and Bazuka. It was a war film, the sound of our guns were different from the sound of their guns, while their AK47 were sounding kaka, our Bazuka were sounding Gudum, our Ogbunigbi were sounding gbudum! Our bullets had unconventional sizes as confirmed by the army. "We have not seen this size of bulet" army spokes man. They were specially made for the Isrealis of Niger Delta, Egbesu could no longer stop our bulet and Ijaws surrenderd for peace after the battle and channelled their energy towards hostage taking and attack on oil installation which is cheaper and more economical to them. The Itsekiri war does not produce money but death.They fought with Itsekiri and they became poorer but when they attack oil companies they became richer.
[b]GELEGELE
Has any body heard this Bini song.Gelegele nor ewanta gelenor oo ,gelegele. Ijaws came to gelegele to do trade by bata with Binis, they bring fish from Ofunama area close to an Itsekiri settlement known as Ita- Eko(Lagos Junction) in Bini river. They usually give fish to Benis in exchange for garri, plantain,stach, etc and the point of exchange are two Beni villages called Gelegele and Ekewan(Eki-owan), The road leading to the two villages is the road where the University of Benin Ekewan campus is situated. In the process of the business, they establish Ijaw quarter there, the Itsekiris bringing fishes from Ita-Eko and Oghoye also extablish Itsekiri quarters there and the both groups were under the rep of Oba of Benin called Okakuro. In less than 50 years Ijaws said they dont want to be under the Okakuro that they want to make their own Pere as ruler that Gelegele is now their property. They attack Itsekiri quarter and the Oba became angry and ordered the demolition of Ijaw quarter in Ekewan. They ran away like fugitive and later came back to plead for mercy. Under GEJ now they have started again that they want to include Gelegele in their proposed Toru Ebe state. I think Ijaws have a genetic problem.That was [/b]why when we taught of developing a locally made biological weapon to further alter their gene, we consildered so many things including their closeness to us. Very soon people will start denying their Ijawism, they are even constituting embarrazment to the president.The president got the highest resistance from his people before he became president.They never wanted him to be president, the total vote of Bayelsa state is less than the vote of delta central.
WHERE IS IAJAW HOME LAND? The language has no relationship with any other language except Calaba.Ibimeyee, I need answer to this question because a tribe must not have home land in every state, if so Nigeria will be Igbo home land.

@ kpogede77

Historically, there has been an Okao of Gelegele, and before that there were edionwere. Okao is the word the Edo (Bini) use for that particular position, not Okakuro. I don't mean to nitpick, because I get what you were saying and know who you were referring to (you were 100% accurate except that you used a similar Urhobo word, not the exact title) and anyone who had looked into that issue would know that there are Okaos of Gelegele and not Ijaw "kingdoms" in Gelegele. But thanks for sharing. Very interesting account. I had always wondered how things got so sour between the Benin palace and the Ijaws in that area before it went to court.


I think the word Okakuro is a separate title, rank or a name used by some Urhobos which is extremely similar to the word Okakuo (war captain) which is a title/rank in Edo.

I think Okakuro and Okakuo (okao = "leader", okuo = "war') are basically the same word, except used slightly differently by different groups.

@beaf na dat headache go kill you.

On a more serious note, is seanet upto 16 years?

kasiem:

On a more serious note, is seanet upto 16 years?

i think the boy is just a fool,

Okakuro is the Urhobo version while the Itsekiri version is Olori-ogun. Although some Urhobo clan use the Itsekiri version but because Urhobos pronounce ''L'' as ''N''  It is now widely used by Urhobos as Onorogun. I think Okakuro is a derivative from the Beni version. In any case Okakuro means chief in Urhobo language.

@kasiem and ak47man you are playing with hell fire. Do you think virtual life is a true reflection of real life?
Some people can be dumb.

Ijaws did not fall from the skies but migrated to the sea shores from an inland territory. Not everybody likes the bush life u know.  I strongly suspect Ebo or Bini like they claim, ain't no smoke without fire. Besides, certain Ijaw tribes share a lot of similarity and culture with bini, whilst the eastern ijaws have igbo influence.

The Ijaws are amongst the aboriginal native; indigenous to the South South central region of nigeria.

ak47mann:

By Simon Ebegbulem & Gabriel Enogholase
BENIN- Communal clash is brewing between the Bini and Ijaw in Edo State following claims by[b] the Bini that the Ijaw were claiming ownership of the land the Binis gave them as migrant fishermen.[/b]

In a petition to the state government, the Enogie of Obazuwa, and brother to the Oba of Benin, who is in charge of most of the territories being annexed and 80 others, said their subjects had been attacked unprovoked by the “settlers.” They added that they had maintained calm because there are court decisions that went as far as the Supreme Court which confirmed that the Binis were the original inhabitants and owners of the land.

According to Akenzua, on June 3, 2011, while the Binis in the area were measuring a land donated to the state government to build a school, “Ijaw militants from Iko” attacked them with machetes, abducted three of his subjects and vandalised property and vehicles in the area.

“The question of who owns Gelegele had gone through litigation and had long been settled. For 50 years, these Ijaw settlers have provoked the Bini. We are finding it increasingly difficult to restrain ourselves from retaliating against these unwarranted attacks by the Ijaw.

“If they refuse to co-exist in harmony with us, they are at liberty to join their kiths and kins in Bayelsa or Rivers states. They must respect the bond of love that binds host and guests.”




VANGUARD NEWSPAPER

Ijo is a manipulated ethnic group. It is derived from Jos, a Portuguese term for people of the river. Reasonable percentages of the people who claim Ijo are not Ijo since original boat people were porters who came from Gold Coast with Europeans to the bight of Biafra.

Every unadulterated historical record points to the fact that so-called Ijo were either migrant fishermen or porters or boat people who had no pedigree to claim lands offshore.

that is what you get for allowing strangers(Ijaws) to squat in your land.

Ijaws are most likely from Cameroon, the language is not related to any language in Nigeria. It only has slight resemblance  with Calaba intonation. I think they migrated through the river from Cameroon to Bayelsa State. From there they  spread like Fulani. Ijaws are not edoid at all.

Hmmm . . . .