GEN4:17 Says Cain met his wife and beget Enoch. Who was his wife and who were the parents of the wife since Adam and Eve were the first people created by God on this earth according to the Bible.
Its a question that has been bugging my mind

That Adam and Eve were the first created humans is a religious myth. many people loose sight of the fact that the book of genesis is just a short and abreviated version of a much bigger story copied from ancient mesopotamian texts that goes all the way back to the summerian civilization.
In the original text, the summerians wrote that Adama or Adapa was a special breed created by the elohim(gods) to serve them(tend to the garden). He was not the first, but was an improvement from others. But because the genesis is a plageurized version of the original, it is incomplete, resulting in the many discrepancies and incosistences.
The summarian texts expain clearly that the beings they called the gods, created Adapa by mixing their genetic materia with those of an already existing species of hominids."come , let us create man in our imgage and in our likeness". This quotation says it all.There were other humans (Neanderthals??) on earth before the genetic cloning of Adam. That is why acrhealogist have made the distinction between homo sapiens(man) and homo sapien sapiens(thinking man or human) . The brain of the homo sapien sapien is larger than the brain of the homo sapien. It appears that the two slightly different species lived side by side for a while and interbred. The biblical authors could not have explained this because they did not understand as much as we do today about human history.

As a follow up to my last post:
For those who may be a bit acquinted with archeology, there is what is commonly refered to as the "Missing link". This mean that when studying the evolution of primates, there is a big gap in the leap from Homo habilis to modern man. To help u understand, this means that given the normaly slow pace of the evolutionary change ,the leap from Homo Habilis to modern man was far too quick by evolutionary time frames. A transformsation that should have normally taken several hundred miilion years, seem to have occured in a very short time. There has been no scientific explaination for this leap, and that is why it is called the missing link. There are theories, supported by these summerian texts that suggest that perhaps an advanced race of beings could have been on the earth, and genetically tinkered with the most evolutionarily advanced species at that time, being homo habilis, to created a better and more intelligent race , now known as humans. Also from the book of genesis, It is also obvious that the gods became worried about the new creature they had created.look at this stament,

" Lo, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, we must prevent from eating from the tree of life lest he eats and lives for ever".

Such a theory makes a lot of sense and fills in on the missing link.
It would also explain why the early humans had incredilby long life spans. Breading with the other lower species must have reduced the life spans over time.

The book of genesis also states that " the Nefilim were on the earth in those days, when the sons of god(S) saw the daughters of men, they came down and bred with them".
Although these come from ancient texts, the fact that we interbreed animals and plants to get better quality species makes these theories plausible. There is no reason not to believe that perhaps an advanced species of beings from another world could have intervened and accelerated our evolutionary process.The seven days of creation in genesis could easily be refering to the seven stages or our evolutionary journey so far, which would make a lot of sense. In the original hebrew texts,days , years, and eons all share the same word "Sar". So 7 sars could mean 7 days, 7 years, 7 phases, or 7 eons(million yrs).
There is more to this topic for those that are interested, read "The Childean Genesis.

The book of genesis also states that " the Nefilim were on the earth in those days, when the sons of god(S) saw the daughters of men, they came down and bred with them".

Don't get me angry now !!

What is Neflim , what is going on here , is this forum turning peoples brains upside down !

frosbel:

Don't get me angry now !!

What is Neflim , what is going on here , is this forum turning peoples brains upside down !

When u come across something that is past ur level, why don't u just ignore it. Must you always try to drag everything down to your level ? If your mind cannot ascend, then be content with where you are. Its called humility. Only a foolsasumes knowledge of everything.
If you have never heard of the Nefilim, simply google it and see what its all about. Gosh. complex ingnorance?.

Why google when it is there in the Bible black and white

onmakpo:

GEN4:17 Says Cain met his wife and beget Enoch. Who was his wife and who were the parents of the wife since Adam and Eve were the first people created by God on this earth according to the Bible.
Its a question that has been bugging my mind

Adam and eve had another son who gave birth to other people.

Genesis 4:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Cain married from them. There was no incest as at that time.

Joagbaje:

Adam and eve had another son who gave birth to other people.

Genesis 4:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Cain married from them. There was no Inbreeding as at that time.

How did you know that Cain married from one of them? Where does the bible say that? Or are just guessing? If you are guessing or speculating, be honest enough to say so or give us the appropriate bible passage. We are not children on this forum.

Joagbaje:

Adam and eve had another son who gave birth to other people.

Genesis 4:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Cain married from them. There was no Inbreeding as at that time.

Are you saying that Adam and Eve only had three children?

Hmmm. I believe there is chronology in the Bible. Cain met his wife and they gave birth to a Enoch in Gen4:17. How comes the quotation of Gen4: 25

OLAADEGBU:

Are you saying that Adam and Eve only had three children?

onmakpo:

Hmmm. I believe there is chronology in the Bible. Cain met his wife and they gave birth to a Enoch in Gen4:17. 

This is the reason why the Bible is translated into different languages.  The word 'knew' there today means to have carnal knowledge.  If you read it in your language it would not say that Cain met his wife, it would rather say that he had intimate relations with his wife.

onmakpo:
How comes the quotation of Gen4: 25

This explains the language 'to know' clearly.  It says that Adam 'knew' his wife again.  Does it mean that he first knew her, had amnesia before he knew her again?  No.  It means that he had carnal knowledge of his wife, Eve again and gave birth to Seth.  My question still stands, does this mean that Adam only had three children?

Also, if as u said cain married Seth's dauhter

OLAADEGBU:

This is the reason why the Bible is translated into different languages.  The word 'knew' there today means to have carnal knowledge.  If you read it in your language it would not say that Cain met his wife, it would rather say that he had intimate relations with his wife.

This explains the language 'to know' clearly.  It says that Adam 'knew' his wife again.  Does it mean that he first knew her, had amnesia before he knew her again?  No.  It means that he had carnal knowledge of his wife, Eve again and gave birth to Seth.  My question still stands, does this mean that Adam only had three children?

My guy, the question is not about "knew", it is if Cain "knew" his wife what is his wife's name. Was it Eve his mother?. And if it was Seth's daughter. Then, who did Seth "know" in order to give birth to the wife Cain married.
Am also oblivious of your question also and it is valid my brother. How many children did Adam have? Is it possible he gave birth to a daughter that was not recorded in the Bible? fore he knew her again?  No.  It means that he had carnal knowledge of his wife, Eve again and gave birth to Seth.  My question still stands, does this mean that Adam only had three children?

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My guy, the question is not about "knew", it is if Cain "knew" his wife what is his wife's name. Was it Eve his mother?. And if it was Seth's daughter. Then, who did Seth "know" in order to give birth to the wife Cain married.
Am also oblivious of your question also and it is valid my brother. How many children did Adam have? Is it possible he gave birth to a daughter that was not recorded in the Bible?

onmakpo:

My guy, the question is not about "knew", it is if Cain "knew" his wife what is his wife's name. Was it Eve his mother?. And if it was Seth's daughter. Then, who did Seth "know" in order to give birth to the wife Cain married.

Cain was already married to his wife by the time he 'knew' her.  He must have married his sister or a niece since God commanded their parents to be fruitful and multiply.  He had to marry one his relatives to fulfil this mission.

onmakpo:

Am also oblivious of your question also and it is valid my brother. How many children did Adam have? Is it possible he gave birth to a daughter that was not recorded in the Bible?

That question was meant for Joagbaje who implied that Adam and Eve only had 3 kids.  I personally don't know how many children he sired but to the best of my knowledge it is recorded that Adam gave birth to sons and daughters (Genesis 5:4).

In Genesis 5:4 we read a statement that sums up the life of Adam and Eve: "After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters."

globexl:

As a follow up to my last post:
For those who may be a bit acquinted with archeology, there is what is commonly refered to as the "Missing link". This mean that when studying the evolution of primates, there is a big gap in the leap from Homo habilis to modern man. To help u understand, this means that given the normaly slow pace of the evolutionary change ,the leap from Homo Habilis to modern man was far too quick by evolutionary time frames. A transformsation that should have normally taken several hundred miilion years, seem to have occured in a very short time. There has been no scientific explaination for this leap, and that is why it is called the missing link. There are theories, supported by these summerian texts that suggest that perhaps an advanced race of beings could have been on the earth, and genetically tinkered with the most evolutionarily advanced species at that time, being homo habilis, to created a better and more intelligent race , now known as humans. Also from the book of genesis, It is also obvious that the gods became worried about the new creature they had created.look at this stament,

" Lo, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, we must prevent from eating from the tree of life lest he eats and lives for ever".

Such a theory makes a lot of sense and fills in on the missing link.
It would also explain why the early humans had incredilby long life spans. Breading with the other lower species must have reduced the life spans over time.

The book of genesis also states that " the Nefilim were on the earth in those days, when the sons of god(S) saw the daughters of men, they came down and bred with them".
Although these come from ancient texts, the fact that we interbreed animals and plants to get better quality species makes these theories plausible. There is no reason not to believe that perhaps an advanced species of beings from another world could have intervened and accelerated our evolutionary process.The seven days of creation in genesis could easily be refering to the seven stages or our evolutionary journey so far, which would make a lot of sense. In the original hebrew texts,days , years, and eons all share the same word "Sar". So 7 sars could mean 7 days, 7 years, 7 phases, or 7 eons(million yrs).
There is more to this topic for those that are interested, read "The Childean Genesis.

What is your source? Bible or archaeology textbook. You seem to say it authoritatively

Archealogy of course.
I think the bible(Genesis) can be better understaood and appreciated if studied from a historical perspective rather than from a purely religious perspective.

There are instances where Science negates Religious believes and Perspectives. In such situations who do we go with?

we have flogged this subject on this thread

www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-744109.0.html

globexl:

That Adam and Eve were the first created humans is a religious myth. many people loose sight of the fact that the book of genesis is just a short and abreviated version of a much bigger story copied from ancient mesopotamian texts that goes all the way back to the summerian civilization.
In the original text, the summerians wrote that Adama or Adapa was a special breed created by the elohim(gods) to serve them(tend to the garden). He was not the first, but was an improvement from others. But because the  genesis is a plageurized version of the original, it is incomplete, resulting in the many discrepancies and incosistences.
The summarian texts expain clearly that the beings they called the gods, created Adapa by mixing their genetic materia with those of an already existing species of hominids."come , let us create man in our imgage and in our likeness". This quotation says it all.There were other humans (Neanderthals??) on earth before the genetic cloning of Adam. That is why acrhealogist have made the distinction between homo sapiens(man) and homo sapien sapiens(thinking man or human) . The brain of the homo sapien sapien is larger than the brain of the homo sapien. It appears that the two slightly different species lived side by side for a while and interbred. The biblical authors could not have explained this because they did not understand as much as we do today about human history.

this proves how true we Pagan peoples are and how we first start the concept of evolution. the xtians as usual, copy and spoil everything.

Yes indeed. Science negates religious beliefs simply because religious belief is just BELIEF. It seldom holds up to any critical analysis.The scienfic or emperical method demands by observation, experimentation or analysis. What is true to one scientist must be true and provable to all scientists.Whereas a religious revelation is to be accpeted on faith alone without questions or proof.

The scientific method of discerning reality has obviously proven itself to far better. The fact that you are using your pc or mobile phone to communicate is enough proof.

Cain married his sister. So did Seth, and probably Abel as well. Adam and Eve likely had several female children but the misogynistic nature of the bible means that females are hardly mentioned except when they do something bad.

If the bible is to believed, then there was some serious in-breeding going on in ancient times. Aside from the in.cestious first family, there's also the descendants of Noah. The 1st generation of children born after the flood must have all married their cousins; and the second generation, their second cousins.

This is one of the ways we can confirm that the biblical account of creation isn't true. There's a reason why people are discouraged from fuc.king or marrying their cousins. Repeated in-breeding leads to weaker and weaker offspring as well as an astronomical rate of genetic abnormalities. If the bible is true, then the human race would have gone extinct within a dozen or so generations.

Also the level of genetic diversity among modern humans shows that there could never have been fewer than 10,000 people on earth throughout humanity's existence. Any fewer than that and the calculations show a rate of spontaneous mutations that s incompatible with life. The idea that there were once only 2 people on earth is just crazy! Even the animals living in Chernobyl don't mutate that fast.

Cain's Wife: It really does matter.

http://www.icr.org/article/cains-wife-it-really-does-matter/

Evil Brain:

Cain married his sister. So did Seth, and probably Abel as well. Adam and Eve likely had several female children but the misogynistic nature of the bible means that females are hardly mentioned except when they do something bad.

If the bible is to believed, then there was some serious in-breeding going on in ancient times. Aside from the in.cestious first family, there's also the descendants of Noah. The 1st generation of children born after the flood must have all married their cousins; and the second generation, their second cousins.

This is one of the ways we can confirm that the biblical account of creation isn't true. There's a reason why people are discouraged from fuc.king or marrying their cousins. Repeated in-breeding leads to weaker and weaker offspring as well as an astronomical rate of genetic abnormalities. If the bible is true, then the human race would have gone extinct within a dozen or so generations.

Also the level of genetic diversity among modern humans shows that there could never have been fewer than 10,000 people on earth throughout humanity's existence. Any fewer than that and the calculations show a rate of spontaneous mutations that s incompatible with life. The idea that there were once only 2 people on earth is just crazy! Even the animals living in Chernobyl don't mutate that fast.

You are scientifically correct but ignorant of some wisdom of God:

Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

Gen 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.


Now,
if you believe that man lived more than 120 years before the flood
if you believe that man did not eat meat before the flood
if you believe that there was no rainbow before the flood
if you believe that there were no seasons before the flood,

Then surely you should know that a lot of things including our genetics changed after the flood,
But if you are out to prove the Bible wrong, you will succeed in fooling yourself.

That r some sign of incomplete bible,hadit says cain marry his sister,paul did not witness d lifetime of Adam so d bible didnt reveal it but d superior God know everytin and has been revealed in d islamic scripture