After vigorous research, I think I have found the most acceptable name borne by all Igbo speaking ethnic groups.The name is "Oha".Igbos generally saw themselves as Oha before the different tribes emerged and the later use of Igbo to refer to others of the same ethnicity.More research is required though.

Nwoha
Ugwuoha
Amadioha
Ikoha
Ohaneze
Ohakim
Ezeoha
Onwanetirioha

The dialectal variances are Ora,Ohua and Ohna

I'm not so sure about this. Also, in a way it sounds like you're making two different sentences at the same time.

What's Abagworo going on about?

Whatever idea you're toying with,Oha does not even come close.If you want to talk about the most common name it should be anything "chi" and Igbos have always seem themselves as Igbo's not oha.Any group can be oha.

Biko,Abagworo log off and go have some fun.

ifyalways:

What's Abagworo going on about?

Whatever idea you're toying with,Oha does not even come close.If you want to talk about the most common name it should be anything "chi" and Igbos have always seem themselves as Igbo's not oha.Any group can be oha.

Biko,Abagworo log off and go have some fun.

I did not mean the most common name @ifyalways.

"Oha" literally means the "entire Igbo people".Ohaneze means "the people and their Kings".

Iwhuru[b]oha[/b]<--- what the Ikwere wing refered/refered to themselves as.

[quote="Abagworo"]"Oha" literally means the "entire Igbo people"[/quote]
ohna just means "populace" or "public", and in a larger, more political sense, "nation" or "ethnic nation" or "nation-state". In the traditional sense (also connected to the larger, more, political sense) Ohna is the institution of government. It's the actual proper name for the institution. I don't believe it has anything to do with the "entire Igbo people", since there wasn't anything like "the entire Igbo people" until Europeans showed up. Ohnaleze isa also a new thing, I believe, just like the idea of "Ohna Igbo".

Abagworo:

I did not mean the most common name @ifyalways.

"Oha" literally means the "entire Igbo people".Ohaneze means "the people and their Kings".

Even at that,Oha or Ohaneze cannot be Igbo or linked with us unless when its written as "Ohaneze Ndi Igbo" kpomkwem.

While we are at it,Can somebody Please give me the meaning of "Ohafia" .

ChinenyeN:

ohna just means "populace" or "public", and in a larger, more political sense, "nation" or "ethnic nation" or "nation-state". In the traditional sense (also connected to the larger, more, political sense) Ohna is the institution of government. It's the actual proper name for the institution. I don't believe it has anything to do with the "entire Igbo people", since there wasn't anything like "the entire Igbo people" until Europeans showed up. Ohnaleze isa also a new thing, I believe, just like the idea of "Ohna Igbo".

You gave out the answer when you referred to it as "ethnic nation".If you observe closely,we never use the word "Oha" for Yoruba,Ijaw or Edo.We can never say Ohanaeze Yoruba or Ohaneze Efik. Think about this.

True, ohnaleze cannot be used for others for two reasons: 1) it is a recent coinage & 2) it has no cultural basis for them. In fact, use of ohnaleze is actually very limited. It can only be said with "Igbo", and it is associated with a pan-Igbo understanding (proving it's recency). Ohna on the other hand can be used for others and is not conceptually attached to the idea of "being Igbo" or "something Igbo".

ChinenyeN:

True, ohnaleze cannot be used for others for two reasons: 1) it is a recent coinage & 2) it has no cultural basis for them. In fact, use of ohnaleze is actually very limited. It can only be said with "Igbo", and it is associated with a pan-Igbo understanding (proving it's recency). Ohna on the other hand can be used for others and is not conceptually attached to the idea of "being Igbo" or "something Igbo".

You still got it wrong."Ohaneze" as an organization is a new coinage to replace the Ibo union,but ohaneze as a word is as old as Igbo language.When Igbos greet,they usually say "ohaneze" mma mma nu o!This was not said in reference to the pan-Igbo organization but the people present.There is no "oha hausa" etc.Infact just like there is a place called Igboukwu we have Ohaukwu and Oraukwu as major Igbo towns.

Maybe I shouldn't speak on "Igbo" and just speak in reference to what I know.

Also, I don't believe Igbo had any name until we became "Igbo".

ChinenyeN:

Also, I don't believe Igbo had any name until we became "Igbo".

You'll have to prove that.

Can you prove otherwise? Quite frankly, I see no evidence of a shared identity before the 20th century; no evidence of a shared name until we became "Igbo". Is there something you or anyone else knows that you'd like to share with the rest of us? Something in our traditions that you or anyone else supposedly knows that our parents and grandparents chose to withhold?

ChinenyeN:

Can you prove otherwise? Quite frankly, I see no evidence of a shared identity before the 20th century; no evidence of a shared name until we became "Igbo". Is there something you or anyone else knows that you'd like to share with the rest of us? Something in our traditions that you or anyone else supposedly knows that our parents and grandparents chose to withhold?

For you to claim that there was no shared identity or that "we became Igbo", it's required that you tell us where the word Igbo comes from and how communities took it up so easily and why even the grandparents are calling themselves Igbo and where they got that from. Does it mean that Igbo communities can have their identities messed around with so easily? So why are there 'Igbo' place names scattered across Igbo land? We have the word 'ndi gboo' that communities have be using before 1900s which may be the origin of Igbo. Even in the Isuama heartland there is Amaigbo. East, West, North, and South there are Igbo names.

So where did Igbo come from and what are these Igbo place names?

Haven't we already had that discussion? 'Igbo' is Isu.
Obigbo; 20th century establishment by hinterland people looking for work down south
Amaigbo in Abia; [b]Isu[/b]kwuato

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Return Home, Ogbakor Ikwerre Tells Ibaa people

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The President of Ogbakor Ikwerre World Wide, Chief Sampson Agbaru has commended the people of Ibaa, in Emohua local government area, Rivers State for their quick achievement of peace.

Chief Agbaru made this assertion during a thanksgiving service organized by Ibaa Community in conjunction with Ogbakor Ikwerre last Sunday at the Holy Trinity Anglican Church, Ibaa.

Chief Agbaru used the opportunity to call on Ibaa people who are still at large to return home now that peace has retuned saying that the opportunity of peace presented by God should be consolidated and built upon.

He also called on the youth to stop carrying out acts capable of breaching the peace God has presented to them on a platter of God.

In his sermon Bishop of the Diocese of Ikwerre, Rt. Rev. Blessing C. Enyindah who was unavoidably absent commended Ibaa people for their patience and understanding during the dark days.

He cited Isaiah 4:1-10 saying that Ibaa just like the children of Israel has had her troubles and now that they have cried to the Almighty God, just like Israel, their sins have been forgiven after having served their necessary punishment.

Represented by pastor Ejuh Samuel, the Bishop adviced the people to guard against reoccurance of past events and pray that the peace should be permanent.

The people of Ibaa through Chief G.A. Ezekwu thanked all those who contribute to the quick achievement of peace in the community saying God should bless them, especially the state governor, Rt. Hon. Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi, Chief Sampson Agbaru, Hon. Prince Paul Wonodi, Oha-nu-Eze [/b]Obelle, Hon. Emeka Wokeh, and [b]Oha nu Eze Ibaa.

It would be recalled that Ibaa, about the largest single community in Ikwerre land was engulfed in communal crises which climaxed in November, 2008, following opposition against the nomination and eventual installation of Chief Dr. Sampson Ovua as the [b]Nye-Nwe-Ali [/b]Uvuawhu in 2007

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What were you able to deduce?

More Oha

Abagworo, you just presented examples of the exact same thing I stated earlier. Ohna is the proper name of the traditional, governmental institution, and what you've presented is evidence that supports my statement. We are saying the exact same thing, in that respect. The only place we differ is that you are convinced that Ohna equals the original collective name of "Igbo people", while I simply am not convinced of such.

Ohna represents three things, none of which I believe is synonymous with "Igbo people".

Also, I know Chileke Ohna. It is the same Chileke that Ngwa traditionally venerated, alongside Ohnuhnu, and it is not "God of Igbo people". Anyway, that is a different topic altogether.

ChinenyeN:

Abagworo, you just presented examples of the exact same thing I stated earlier. Ohna is the proper name of the traditional, governmental institution, and what you've presented is evidence that supports my statement. We are saying the exact same thing, in that respect. The only place we differ is that you are convinced that Ohna equals the original collective name of "Igbo people", while I simply am not convinced of such.

Ohna represents three things, none of which I believe is synonymous with "Igbo people".

I will like to know the 3 things Oha represent.If you notice,the article I posted area was on Ikwerre and they used "Oha nu Eze" to refer to the entire people of the towns of Ibaa and Obelle.

What is the meaning of "Chileke Oha" if not "God of Oha" or "God of the people"?

The Igbo titles Enyioha, Ochioha,Omereoha etc. do they refer to a particular section of people or the entire people.

I can't believe this thread is still on.Statments and arguments that cannot be backed with facts.
Oha=Igbo

As far as I know, "ohna" simply means "the public", "the people", "the populace". No where and no time in my life did I grow up with the understanding that "ohna", as a word, is a synonym for "Igbo people" or that it means the same thing as "ndi Igbo".

Is ohna an Igbo word? Yes. Does "ohna" mean the people? Yes. But does it mean "Igbo people"? No. I doubt it, though I don't doubt that there may be some who could see sense in the idea that "ohna" means "the entire Igbo people".

Abagworo:

I will like to know the 3 things Oha represent.If you notice,the article I posted area was on Ikwerre and they used "Oha nu Eze" to refer to the entire people of the towns of Ibaa and Obelle.

What is the meaning of "Chileke Oha" if not "God of Oha" or "God of the people"?

The Igbo titles Enyioha, Ochioha,Omereoha etc. do they refer to a particular section of people or the entire people.

Oha is best translated as 'state'. 'State' isn't the name of a people, just like someone from Imo State wouldn't say 'I'm Imo State'. Britain had an Empire (Mkpaghara?), a different type of state, so they also had titles that are on the lines of Friend of the Empire, Order of the Empire and Knight of the Empire. 'Empire' doesn't mean 'British people'.

please are these igbo words? "Ohna and Ohnuhnu" what are their meanings anyone? and how are they pronounced

presido1:

please are these igbo words? "Ohna and Ohnuhnu" what are their meanings anyone? and how are they pronounced

I think ChineyeN is trying to write 'Ọhạ' and Ọhụhụ. At least, that was how they taught us to write that tone.

ChinenyeN:

As far as I know, "ohna" simply means "the public", "the people", "the populace". No where and no time in my life did I grow up with the understanding that "ohna", as a word, is a synonym for "Igbo people" or that it means the same thing as "ndi Igbo".

Is ohna an Igbo word? Yes. Does "ohna" mean the people? Yes. But does it mean "Igbo people"? No. I doubt it, though I don't doubt that there may be some who could see sense in the idea that "ohna" means "the entire Igbo people".

It is your second paragraph that is the problem.Oha,Ohna,Ohan,Ohua,Ora,Orua all represent "the people" strictly in reference to Igbo speakers.For example you can say "Oha Ngwa" or "Oha la Eze Ngwa","Oha nu Eze Ikwerre","Oha na Eze Igbo" but "Oha na Eze Okrika" does not exist.You can't use that as reference to Okrika people.

abagoro:

It is your second paragraph that is the problem.Oha,Ohna,Ohan,Ohua,Ora,Orua all represent "the people" strictly in reference to Igbo speakers.For example you can say "Oha Ngwa" or "Oha la Eze Ngwa","Oha nu Eze Ikwerre","Oha na Eze Igbo" but "Oha na Eze Okrika" does not exist.You can't use that as reference to Okrika people.

My father is a public speaker and he used to do a lot of traveling. I remember distinctly that he would sometimes use ohna to describe his audience. He would say something like "*yada yada yada* ohna akuo aka" or "ohna achia". Ohna eme this, ohna etia that. I've also heard other Ngwa use ohna similarly.

So it doesn't seem to me that ohna is limited to Igbo speakers.

ChinenyeN:

My father is a public speaker and he used to do a lot of traveling. I remember distinctly that he would sometimes use ohna to describe his audience. He would say something like "*yada yada yada* ohna akuo aka" or "ohna achia". Ohna eme this, ohna etia that. I've also heard other Ngwa use ohna similarly.

So it doesn't seem to me that ohna is limited to Igbo speakers.

Whats the difference between "nde madu" and "oha na Eze" ?

Nde Okrika = Oha Okrika.

Does that not sound weird?

Abagworo:

More Oha

abagworo how do you post pages like this on nairaland.