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"Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Larufa(m): 5:03pm On Mar 04, 2006
Most parents nowadays discourage speaking local language to their children. How right are they?

As for me I will never speak English to my children, never. They have to learn to speak, write and read in the father's/mother's language. I am a Yoruba man- Odu'a Tokan tokan- and will never relegate my culture to the background. Yoruba Language is very rich- how u respect, greet and conduct yourself.

An average Ibo girl or Boy will always discuss with her/his parents in their local language even if they have never being to their village. An Hausa man is ever ready to teach u his language.
International a french man is very proud of his language likewise the German, Dutch, Korean, Chinese, Japanese e.t.c

Their performance in school is never affected. Prof 'Wole Soyinka and Chima Achebe parents never spoke english to them when growing up, but today they are international literature Icons.

In sociaolgy, there is something called Boundary Maintanance i.e. u preserve that which is your culture from external aggregation. Language is an emboardment of ones culture. It must be preserved. To my mind our problem is that of class, we want to be what we are not.
Do not get me wrong the children must be taught English and French Language as well in order to be part of the global village. But not to relegate our local Languages.

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by papermoon(f): 6:19pm On Mar 05, 2006
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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by alheri(f): 1:20pm On Mar 07, 2006
Well, I for one speak my native language to my kids. Its the little I can give to them and make sure that in this "global village" world, they dont get lost wandering where they originated from.
One thing I dont allow though is anyone speaking to them in pidgin english. That I will not allow,at least not at this tender age(4 and 1).

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by SamCharles(m): 6:27pm On Mar 07, 2006
Well, well, well, i don't speak my language!
It's not something i relish saying but it's the truth.
Probably because i was given birth to abroad and my
Mum and Dad weren't from the same ethnic group, my
language wasn't spoken to me.
Now that i sit back and reflect, it hurts me real much
cause i can't participate in anything in my village especially
politics. You see people you are better than contesting
and actually winning elections!
You know you can do it also but the language factor weighs
you down.
So please parents should speak indegenous languages
to their kids no matter how embarassing the language is.

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by kimba(m): 7:18pm On Mar 07, 2006
My opinion: ones ability to speak ones mother/fathers tongue is a matter of choice. The fact that one may/may not be able to read,write or speak in one mother/father tongue/dialect doesnt make one a better/lesser human. Any one wants to dispute?

@papermoon
Pls, theres nothing run with a kid saying to his/her parents "hey mommy, wats up". A mommy who is socialized and knows that time is changing will not see her children addressing her with such words as rude. That one says "e", "e", "e" etc, before every word does not actually mean the person saying it has an ounce of respect for whoever is been addressed.

And yes, its nice to dobale for your parents, but in todays world, its not necessary. The main thing is RESPECT, right? and that can come in many ways. Do you know that in some parts of the world, if you prostrate(half/full) to greet anyone, you are seen as a member of a cult? two of my friends were arrested because of such, they were JJCs in North Korea. Worse, they had some tribal marks on their faces. THey(my two friends and the person they greeted - an elderly man) spent 3weeks behind bars, because of prostrating, tell me that the koreans did not understand our culture, right, but my guys spent time behind bars,

still best is to make sure your kids understand and can adapt to the changing world around them, but trying to chain them to one, just because thats where u came from is to me, child abuse,

the reverse effect is that the more one tries to force kids to learn their mother/father tongue, the more they dont want to learn it, i think its to be done the other way around, let them appreciate it, on their own, they'll love it and then learn it

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by alheri(f): 10:10am On Mar 08, 2006
Hey kimba, I dont think anyone here has said not speaking your local dialect makes you a lesser human, so take a chill pill and calm down. Everyone is just giving their opinions, no one is disputing anything with you.
I also beleive people should move with time and the changing world whatever but that doesnt mean they should loose their identities in the process.

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by olex(m): 2:21pm On Mar 08, 2006
Speaking your native tongue to your kids should be a matter of choice. Where I grew up in Nigeria, most parents spoke English to their kids. Several families were made up of husbands and wives who came from different ethnic backgrounds and found it more convenient to converse in English.

It is important that kids grow up very proficient in English because this has become the language of global communication and business. And without a doubt, English is the future language of Nigeria. As people from more ethnically diverse backgrounds marry, English would be more widely used.

While culture is a very important aspect of our lives, we should not loose sight of the fact that culture is not static but dynamic. In other words, culture changes and so do languages. You might call yourself a Hausa or Yoruba man today but your progeny six generations down the line would likely call themselves something else.

Today, we associate English with the United Kingdom but lets not forget that the Anglo-Saxons invaded England around the 5th century. These were the folks who gave rise to the language we all English today. In other words, the origin of the English language isn’t Britain!

Painful as it may sound, many languages in Nigeria will die away with time. This is a fact and there is nothing we can do about it. All through history, languages have been born and languages have died. Most languages spoken in the Middle Belt/Southern parts of Nigeria trace their origin to a single original language according to linguists. Northern languages, and Hausa/Fulani in particular, have been heavily influenced by Arabic over the past few centuries. A great deal of the vocabulary found in Hausa is of Arabic origin. Check out the numeral system—99% Arabic!

I see myself as a human being not restricted by linguistic or cultural affinities. In other words, the fact that I am human is much much much more important than what ethnic group I come from or what language I speak. In the long run, language is but a means of communication and if we humans could find another means of communicating without using the written or spoken word (say using our minds, as may happen in future) what then would it mean to be Yoruba, or Hausa or Ijaw?

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Larufa(m): 6:17pm On Mar 08, 2006
@olex, thanks for ur frank option.

Culture, everybody believe is dynamic and changing but must these changes take away from u who are. I mean your history. I am a Yoruba man and am very proud of my race. I will see to the fact that my language never die. Never will that happen. English might seem to be the universal language of communication but my language i richer in concept and scope then the English language. People like you want to continue the suppression of our indigienous language. You can never be an English what u are is what u are:: an African.

U are mistaking language to be the same thing has culture. language is just a small portion of our culture.

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by papermoon(f): 1:09pm On Mar 09, 2006
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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by olex(m): 2:08pm On Mar 09, 2006
@onanugaola

"I am a Yoruba man and am very proud of my race. I will see to the fact that my language never die”

Given that Yoruba has millions of speakers across the globe, it will likely not be dying away in the next 1000 years. But it will change substantially within this period that the Yoruba of the year 2000 will most likely be unintelligible to someone living in the year 3000.

It is good for parents to speak their native tongue to kids but this should be a choice. There is nothing you can do about preventing a language from dying away (and a new language from being born). We live for only 70 or 80 years and die. Languages evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. Every language on the planet is in a constant state of evolution, borrowing new words and concepts, inventing words and getting rid of archaic vocabulary. The process is so slow that we do not notice it. Between 1900 and 2000, Yoruba (as spoken in urban areas) borrowed quite an amount of words from English. You only need go to Lagos and hear people speak Yoruba. Hardly are three sentences made without recourse to a word, which is Anglo-Saxon in origin.

English has been successful not because someone protected it, but because it was willing to borrow from other languages. From West Africa, East Asia and Europe, new words entered the English language continuously. Protected languages like French have seen a marked decline in their global prowess.

“Culture, everybody believe is dynamic and changing but must these changes take away from u who are. I mean your history.”

All of humanity has a common origin. Human life originated in Africa and spread out to the rest of the world. There is genetic evidence to prove this. So the bottom line is that we are all Africans. The immense genetic diversity one finds on the African continent testifies to the fact that human beings have lived much longer in Africa than on any other planet.

So, if we all want to trace our history to the beginning of the origin, we are all Africans descended from a single man and woman, who probably lived in the Rift Valley of East Africa or somewhere in West Africa (no one can tell).

Because we lived isolated for so long, each region of the world developed a unique history and culture. The last century saw the opening up of the world (thanks to ships and airplanes) and now people travel up and down, sometimes leaving their ‘ancestral’ lands to settle somewhere else. This is all part of the never-ending story of human migration, which has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. It got much quicker in the last century and will continue till the end of time.


“People like you want to continue the suppression of our indigienous language. You can never be an English what u are is what u are:: an African”

Pardon me, but I am not suppressing anything. People should be free to speak what languages they like but it will be an absolute waste of time to protect languages by the use of laws. Indeed I can never be an English person because I am human. My society tagged me a Nigerian before I was born because my parents claimed to be Nigerian. Till this day, I wear that tag.

I look forward to the day when spoken words would be obsolete. It’s only a matter of time before we would begin communicating with our minds (maybe a few hundred years more—not too long, considering the fact that the world is about 4 billion years old!). There would be no need for spoken languages.

You tell me what I am is what I am: an African. Why must you tag me? I should have the freedom in today’s world to decide whether I want to be African or Brazilian or American (provided I have the money to travel and relocate). That should be my choice. Let me tell you something: Africa was not always the way it is. Are you familiar with the Bantu conquest of the pygmies and Khoi-Sans! We are here today because our ancestors who were Bantus conquered other primitive tribal groups centuries ago here on the African continent. Today the pygmies are reduced to forest regions in Central Africa while the Khoi-Sans (so-called Bushmen) have been decimated. But the Bantus (the Hausas, Igbos, Yourbas, Ashanti…etc) have multiplied and conquered all of Africa. The problem is they now speak almost 1500 languages that they feel they are so different from each other.

Cheers.
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by babymine(f): 2:53pm On Mar 09, 2006
I don't speak my language. I wish I could! It's so embarrasing when I get to meet people from my village and they start speaking our dialect and all i do is smile and nod cos I can't speak it back to them. I think it's probably cos we don't speak it so much in my house and cos I grew up in the north. Funny, but I can speak hausa n its not my dialect. I dnt really know who 2 blame. But then it's not to late to learn, is it? grin
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by gospelman(m): 3:45pm On Mar 09, 2006
Onanugaola,
If you look at those who will never let go of their dialect,check their English;full of grammatical blunders.These are the kind of guys who will never let you hear in the office.They converse out loud in their local dialect and when they speak and/or write English,you feel sorry for them.These are the guys who probably spoke Yoruba,Ibo or Hausa 90% of he time when they were in school and at home.

I am not against letting the kids learn any local dialect.As a matter of fact,I would love my kids to learn and speak most local dialects as well as well international languages/dialects;as many as they can afford to.I do not have any problem with that.But they had better be pretty excellent in their written and spoken English first and foremost.They ought to know when to use any local dialect. Not conversing in a local dialect that the people around/visitors do not understand.That's the bottom line.

My nephew can speak both English and a local dialect.But he only responds in the local dialect when you use that to converse with him.His major language is English and he is barely 5.He cannot open up a conversation with you in a local dialect.

See?
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Larufa(m): 4:59pm On Mar 09, 2006
@olex, I totally agree with you. But your relocation can't change your history.

@gospelman, If I don't let go my dialect is not an excuse for speaking or writing bad English.
My daughter speaks, reads and writes Yoruba fluently, this I ensure by teaching the beautiful language her myself.
She is the best student in her class. I have told her to always translate whatever she is taught in school to Yoruba for better understanding and it has worked out prefectly. I encourage you to do the same and see the difference in ur children's performance.
Any discussion in my home is in Yoruba except when we have visitor(s) that can't understand Yoruba around.
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Consultant(f): 9:25pm On Mar 10, 2006
We wouldn't even be having this arguement at all if most people realized that children have more capacity for learning than we credit them for. Speak to them in your native language AS WELL AS in English - heck, tack on another Nigerian language, French and Spanish for good measure. They can learn and be fluent in all of them.

I can speak, read and write Yoruba perfectly well, complete with "ami ohun", I speak to my parents primarly in Yoruba. Conversely my siblings and I primarily speak to each other in English. For my SSCE i took three languages and had A1 in English, A2 in Yoruba and A3 in French - there's no mutual exclusivity here.

My advise is to let your children learn as many languages as possible. This world is fast becoming a global, "boundaryless" world and the more you can interact with people from all over the world, the better for you.
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Zahymaka(m): 2:27am On Mar 21, 2006
Speaking of languages, my parents never spoke their language(s) to us in my family -- my Dad is from Kwale in Delta and my mom is Yoruba. They did speak my dad's language to themselves in our hearing and we picked it up. As a result, I do not have an accent etc etc. The only problem is that when I speak my language I can't talk rapidly because I think first in English before I translate in my mind. I haven't yet picked up Yoruba completely but at least you can't sell me with it.

I regret not being taught when I was growing up because children find it easier to learn languages without picking an accent when they're young. It's still a matter of choice and the ultimate decision rests with the parents.
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by chinani(f): 10:44pm On Mar 21, 2006
I can't speak my language and neither can my cousins who were born in the U.S. It's really embarrassing. I wish I'd been taught as a child! So, all the parents on here who ARE teaching their children their mother/native tongue, PROPS to you! And that's real. If you're not, that's o.k. too, I know parenting is hard etc. etc. But at least consider it, b/c they may wish you had when they get to be my age! Also, native African languages are becoming more valuable abroad. Here in TX, my friends make $10/hour translating for school children! (It's a great college job.) The districts pay not the children. The trend going to continue and spread to the medical and legal fields (I think).

@ babymine

I feel you! But, at least you know Hausa right? You can always learn your own as well!

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Hotstepper(f): 3:45am On Mar 22, 2006
My kids must surely know how to speak Igbo. Once they are born and you start communicationg to them , they will pick it up then when they go to to school, they learn english. That comes to more reason why i want to marry an igbo man not because am tribalist but cuz of this things. Infact, my kids woulf be thought igbo at home, attend french school which they can be communicate din english too.

I know 2 little kids that can speak Yoruba, and can understand their mom's own language (an European country), they speakl perfect english and french cuz they attend french school. That is it, There is an advantage in that and I thank God I can speak and understand although i can't write or read tongue but it doesn't make you are less human or sumthing but for your own good and to belongs cuz village people might want to show you pepper tongue
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by dessi(f): 5:33am On Mar 22, 2006
Hello, im from Europe - Romania ,and i didnt study english never in my life, so i hope u understand me at least 50% smiley In my opinion its much better for a person to know as many languages/dialects he can . And the best oportunity is when u are little kid, because then u dont realize that u are "studying" something . And i dont see any reason why a kid form Nigeria to not study also english and his native dialect . In Romania we have indeed few diffrect accent, if we come from diffrent areas, but usualy its only about accent, and only little diffrent words, so here we can understand everybody.But anyhow, i speak with the accent of my area, even if i moved from hometown , because its like a proud for me . And even like somebody here told us, that in maybe 500 years one dialect will disapear, so what ?? We live now, not in future, and since that dialect exist, and our parents used it, i dont undersand why to not teach our kids the same ?! Its about tradition ,and why not to conserve this ? We got here nigerian students and they know very well english, this is very cool, but also they talk between them their dialect, and its ok, speaking the native language its like u are home always smiley
huh, i think nobody will get my point , well i will improve my english and i`ll be back !
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Zahymaka(m): 5:43am On Mar 22, 2006
I prefectly understand you dessi . I like the fact that Romanians speak English well. Believe me you're better than some Nigerians -- that's a compliment. I like Romania because I once had a crush on a Romanian girl I met embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by dessi(f): 5:53am On Mar 22, 2006
Oh , what can i say , i am now with one nigerian here , so if he dump me i will come to you and we`ll cry together : me for this boy, and u for the romanian girl . But hey, we must decide in what language/dialect to cry cheesy
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Zahymaka(m): 6:03am On Mar 22, 2006
I don't know any Romanian so we'll trade cries. You'll cry in Romanian for my girl [hey it was only a crush] while you'll tell me the tribe your girl is from so I can cry in her language -- sound's fair doesn't it?
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by mlksbaby(f): 6:23am On Mar 22, 2006
I'd rather say speak them all and more - your native dialect, English, and an international language if possible. If you wld rather keep just to your dialect, what happens when someone comes to the door and tells them they've been offered scholarship to an international school? I don't want my kids moping and saying, 'Hmm? Eh? wetin he talk?' Having an international focus does not rob one of the benefits of a native language or indigenous dialect. Someday when I have kids, I want to give them a real feel or 'home' but I would love to expose them as well to the outside world. smiley
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by chinani(f): 6:32am On Mar 22, 2006
@ dessi

I understood you completely! grin Hopefully, your man will treat you well & you'll have nothing to cry about. wink
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by dessi(f): 7:05am On Mar 22, 2006
Yes mlks_baby, u right ! Its very important to know 1 international language, and i guess english its the most used. But anyway in Nigeria english can be learned at school ,right? My nigerian boyfriend speaks very well english, and i guess some igbo (not sure, but sounds something like that ), but he learned very well romanian language . grin And if i will ever have kids with him for sure we will teach them all the languags we know !! Ive noticed that my "baby oga" (he`s the boss! ) talk with him friends some strange english , "Sup ?" instead of "what`s up?" for example , but i guess this is not a dialect in nigeria ,maybe its their way to be cool haha . Well i was just surfing the internet to find out more about Lagos , but im happy i`ve meet u guys, and i think i will look over this forum more .

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Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by Zahymaka(m): 2:27pm On Mar 22, 2006
I'm sorry dessi for referring to you as a boy. I really thought you were one -- guess I didn't read your post very well. Sincere apologies and goodluck with your man. Have you learnt how to cook his favourite dish yet [that's one of the romantic things you can do]?
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by eveseh(f): 8:34pm On Apr 27, 2006
stupid paretens,
Re: "Do Not Speak Indigenous Languages To My Child": How Right Are Such Parents? by MP007(m): 10:39am On Oct 26, 2007
Its better you make ur kids bi or trilingual, Its in there best interest , for instance , growing up in texas, na spanish and english , so learning both will make them more commercially viable and ooh yea, u get paid more

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