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PAGAN 9JA:

^that is just an artist impression. i bet the xtians were running around the arena like bumbling fools, when the lions were set upon them. The Pagan Emperors were right tin doing so. atleast this provided live entertainment and temporarly prevented anymore troublemakers from causing harm to the stable and prosperous Roman Empire.

Guess who gets running when the real Lion of Judah roars?

^Lion of Judah. pfft. more like[b] Monkey of Judah[/b].

Daniel in the Lions den

Beware of trolls who gatecrash into threads, their sole purpose is to cause confusion!

PAGAN  9JA:

another culture, people and religion being lost to history books, all because of this fals and evil religion.

Indeed! Thats what christianity and other manufactured cults are all about, destroying people's original philosophies and trying to replace it with fiction. I think its called "Brainwashing".

When was the bible written? Who wrote it? For what purpose?

Norman Lewis reveals the sinister method a group of missionaries (ex cathedra) employ in a case of what can only be described as PURE EVIL.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis


There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on  some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that  before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries. It is no wonder their so-called "holy" book is a FRAUD. An immitation of various philosophies (including those of African origin) in every sense that is, the content are NOT original, and the motives behind its publication is drastic given the draconian mind games with which the cult of christianity operates.

http://www.amazon.ca/Missionaries-God-Against-Indians/dp/0070376131


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOKtE2bGj_w                      
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPXKuqLQ63o

^^ Again, I put it to you that you have clearly not read the book and you are just copying some nonsense you saw on some websites.

^^ and you have not read what he has to say. it actually makes sense.

^^ Again, @Enigma explain yourself

You know you haven't read it; and you know I know you haven't read it.

Enigma:

You know you haven't read it; and you know I know you haven't read it.

I'm afraid you are wrong.

OK, I'm still watching! But I'll tell you now, if you had read the book, you'd know what is actually in it and what is not in it.

As I said, I'm watching; the vulture is a patient bird.

Enigma:

if you had read the book, you'd know what is actually in it and what is not in it.

You are a sorry case

PAGAN 9JA:

another culture, people and religion being lost to history books, all because of this fals and evil religion.

Indeed! Thats what christianity and other manufactured cults are all about, destroying people's original philosophies and trying to replace it with fiction. I think its called "Brainwashing".

When was the bible written? Who wrote it? For what purpose?

Norman Lewis reveals the sinister method a group of missionaries (ex cathedra) employ in a case of what can only be described as PURE EVIL.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis


There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries. It is no wonder their so-called "holy" book is a FRAUD. An immitation of various philosophies (including those of African origin) in every sense that is, the content are NOT original, and the motives behind its publication is drastic given the draconian mind games with which the cult of christianity operates.

http://www.amazon.ca/Missionaries-God-Against-Indians/dp/0070376131


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOKtE2bGj_w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPXKuqLQ63o

OK, first I repeat what I said before: you know you have not read the book; and you know I know you have not read the book.

Then, if you claim you have read the book or have a copy of it here goes:

Test no 1: Please state the year in which the Panares "New Testament" that you refer to was published.

I should warn you that this is the simplest of the tests I have for you.

Enigma:

OK, first I repeat what I said before: you know you have not read the book; and you know I know you have not read the book.

Then, if you claim you have read the book or have a copy of it here goes:

Test no 1: Please state the year in which the Panares "New Testament" that you refer to was published.

I should warn you that this is the simplest of the tests I have for you.

Like i said earlier, you are a sorry case; if you want more info or need to clarify contents of the post, go and get yourself a copy of the book.

Furthermore, if you are trying to dispute the details of the post, come out and say it; and we'll take it from there.

Look, at the moment all we are trying to establish is whether or not you have in fact read the book. I repeat that you know and you know I know that you have not read the book. 

Once we sort out the issue of whether or not you have read it, I will then explain what is in fact in the Norman Lewis book and what is not in it. 

Missionaries employ various strategies to destroy other religions/cultures and convert people to their religion/denomination. The exact strategy deployed depends on the target population's situation.

There are 7 categories of conversion methods:

1)Pre-evangelism

2)Personal Evangelism

3)Preaching Evangelism

4)Persuasion evangelism

5)Pastoral evangelism

6)Programmed evangelism

7)Prayer Evangelism.

All the methods employed come under atleast one of these categories though many come under multiple categories.

^^^ Well, I'll give you credit for one thing! At least you are trying desperately not to lie that you've read the book ---- hence the avoidance tactics.

Lets take a look at the most prominent methods of evangelism & conversion (ABC):

* Alluring Children & Adults with gifts and toys

*N1 + Pray to Jesus = N10.

Many of us are crazy for money & wealth. Some of us are ready to go to any extent to acquire wealth. Chistianity and other manufactured cults are readily available to exploit this rage by telling people to donate and pray.

When people don't get anything in return they are told that their prayers aren't sufficient or N10+prayer will atmost get him/her a bicycle not a Rolls-Royce. This is called the "Health and Wealth" gospel in the U.S.A. - you give the church 10 percent of your gross income, and God is obligated to miraculously provide for you.



*Abduction/Kidnap

Abduction was a very popular method employed on indigenous communities. It was Primarily employed on native Canadians, Americans and Australians. This strategy is still used but at a much smaller scale while ensuring secrecy.

* Academic/History Rewriting

This strategy helps in generating a low opinion and delinking natives from their native religions, cultures and traditions.

Locals cease to retain pride in themselves after reading this literature and often become an object of ridicule in their community. Though many Scholars don't call themselves active missionaries they successfully play part a major part in the missionary game i.e., delinking.

* Alcoholism  

Missionaries brought alcohol and promoted alcoholism to many communities (e.g Tahiti). The leaders habituated to alcohol did everything what missionaries said losing their entire communities to an alien an unhealthy philosophy.

* Brainwashing/Hypnosis

Conversion is another word for Brainwashing, and any study of brainwashing has to begin with a study of Christian revivalism in eighteenth century America.

Apparently, Jonathan Edwards accidentally discovered the techniques during a religious crusade in 1735 in Northampton, Massachusetts.

By inducing guilt and acute apprehension and by increasing the tension, the "sinners" attending his revival meetings would break down and completely submit.

Technically, what Edwards was doing was creating conditions that wipe the brain slate clean so that the mind accepts new programming. He would tell those attending, "You're a sinner! You're destined for hell!"

* Business/Employment evangelism

Many Christian employers and employers use employment to lure and many times force a non-Christian into their the cult of Christianity.

*Charity, Bribing and Buying souls  

Charity is the most popular technique employed currently. This provides a very secular cover and insulates from all forms of questioning. This is used primarily to place long-term missionaries. They take the form of language teachers, social workers etc.

* Child Trafficking/Orphanages

Though there a very few genuine Christian charity orphanages majority of the orphanages springing up today are mainly centres of indoctrination. They believe in the 'Catch them young' principle. Many orphanages claim that they are building the future christian workers.

*Communication Manipulation

Communication is the key to evangelism. It is not what you say BUT 'HOW YOU SAY'.
Evangelists understand this concept better than anyone else. All the missionaries are trained in Marketing and Journalism. Marketing techniques are used to push their product (Jesus=Salvation; Other religions=Hell). Journalistic techniques are used to spin their stories, manage media and create stories about non-christian religions

* Contextualization/Inculturation

Contextualization is the process of adopting the native culture, practices and beliefs to make the non-christians believe that they are not in a different world.

It is an infiltration technique.

* Controlling Influential Powers/Positions  

Evangelicals do not operate as hit-and-run operatives. Their ultimate objective is to control everything in the world.

Earlier Church used to control everything including food, dressing, thinking and even intimate positions (allowed only missionary position).

Evangelicals in the present day are trying to bring back their 'good-olden-days'. To achieve this they need to hold all the powerful positions whether in Judiciary, Army, Politics or Media.

cont

The following are related to the strategy 'Controlling Influential Powers/Positions':

* Create Guilt

This strategy revolves around the idea of blaming the native religion as the source of major problems.

[center]The Panare killed Jesus Christ

because they were wicked.

Let's kill Jesus Christ, said the Panare.

The Panare seized Jesus Christ.

The Panare killed in this way.

The laid a cross on the ground.

They fastened his hands and his feet

against the wooden beams, with nails.

They raised him straight up, nailed.

The man died like that, nailed.

Thus the Panare killed Jesus Christ[/center]

* Creating 'LEFT-BEHIND' fear

This strategy works wonders on the psychologically impaired.

Evangelical Christians believe that theirs is the only true religion.

They usually ask the non-christians the question of 'What would be their fate in case Christianity is the true religion and native religion is false?'.

Evangelicals then describe the fate of non-christians in terms of hell, lake of fire and blood-thirsty 'second coming of Jesus' etc and advise the natives to play safe. Many psychologically impaired non-christians want to play safe and convert out of fear of being 'LEFT-BEHIND'

* Denigration and Hate Spreading

According to Christianity every non-christian religion is a work of Satan and every non-christian worships Satan. These strategies are primarily used to motivate their fellow missionaries and to create ill-will among non-christians about their religion

* Disaster Relief Exploitation

Satan Propaganda: Missionaries claim that the disaster stuck their region or village because God is angry with them. GOD is angry because non-christians worship devil and are under Satanic influence.

Most of the victims will be psychologically weak and under manipulatable conditions because they lost their family members , property and undergoing depression.

According to Southern Baptist Convention's official guide on Evangelism: The motivation behind Southern Baptist Disaster Relief efforts can be summed up in one phrase: A cup of cold water in Jesus name!?.

* Divide & Conquer(convert)

This is one of the most popular deceitful techniques employed throughout the missionary history; the favourite strategy for the British and Americans during the infamous crusades.

Differences and enimity among individuals are created or exploited in pitting one group against another.

This is very popular among indigenous communities as it is very easy to generate enimity between multiple factions.



cont

* Education/Schools 

In many regions such as Afghanistan and many Islamic countries, Education though didn't help much in direct evangelism but helped missionaries put their foot into unreached regions and establish contacts with people. School work is an excellent mask for evangelical activities.

* Excessive children/Armies of God's soldiers

Many Christian families produce excessive number of children to be brought up in a different fundamentalist cult like mentality.  These kids grown up in such restrictive and conditioned environment are expected to carry forward  and impose the fundamentalist mentality they are brought up in.  The pastor or father controls everything related to upbringing of the children such as even picking the nail color the kids can use.

* Exorcism (this is primarily a Catholic procedure)

Catholic church promotes the notion that the negative tendencies in the world are due to Devils(imaginary creatures).

How to get rid of Devils?.

Catholic church practices an occult medieval practice called Exorcism.

When a comman man is in trouble, the local church clandestinely brainwashes the gullible that Devils are source for all the ills and they have the solution called 'Exorcism' to get rid of Satan/Devils.

The common man under distress easily falls into this trap

* Fear of "End of World" (Acocalypse)

Missionaries brainwash and instill a fear that 'end-of-the-world' is coming.

Missionaries 'guarantee' heaven (as if they own that dreamland) to converts and those who don't convert are cast in the 'Lake of Fire'.

Guillible victims fall prey to that concept and convert. Earthquakes and recently Indian Ocean Tsunami were all marketed by missionaries as a'divine wrath and warning from GOD' for not converting

* GENOCIDES

*FAKE Healing

* THE PERSECUTION CLAIMS

Missionaries always go on about 'Christians around the world are persecuted because of their beliefs'.

Are Christians really being persecuted all around the world?

Persecution claims are made to gain sympathy, extract naira from the well-off and ward off any potential opposition to their sinster activity.

* Promoting political activities

Evangelicals form pressure groups. Sensing the power of such groups that too the ones supported by western powers many more people convert into Christianity for their personal and political gains

* Public Relations(PR) Campaigns

If there is anybody in the world who mastered the art of Public Relations (PR), it is the Western Church.

They remain unscathed irrespective of the magnitude of crimes and genocides they commit.

Their public relations engine works throughout the day.

Due to their PR campaigns many people develop a larger than life view of missionaries and fall prey to their nefarious activities.

* Scripture Manipulation

Evangelicals are masters in manipulating their scriptures as well as non-christian scriptures.

[center]God will burn you all,

burn all the animals, burn also the earth,

the heavens, absolutely everything.

He will burn also the Panare themselves.

God will exterminate the Panare by throwing them on the fire.

It is a huge fire.

I am going to hurl the Panare into the fire, said God.

,

God is good.

'Do you want to be roasted in the fire?' asks God.

'Do you have something to pay me with so that I won't roast you in the fire?

What is it you're going to pay me?'[/center]


* Terrorism & Militancy

Communities who refused to convert to Christianity are massacred.

Baptist Church of Nagaland is the command centre of terrorism in Nagalim.

I should note for the records that so far my friend here is just indiscriminately copying and pasting material (including false information) from propaganda websites like http://www.crusadewatch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=21&Itemid=54

As I have said before, my friend knows and he knows that I know that he has not read the Norman Lewis book --- and in fact he does not really know what is in the book and what is not.

Missionaries employ various strategies to destroy other religions/cultures and convert people to their religion/denomination. The exact strategy deployed depends on the target population's situation.

There are 7 categories of conversion methods:

1)Pre-evangelism

2)Personal Evangelism

3)Preaching Evangelism

4)Persuasion evangelism

5)Pastoral evangelism

6)Programmed evangelism

7)Prayer Evangelism.

All the methods employed come under atleast one of these categories though many come under multiple categories

Lets take a look at the most prominent methods of evangelism & conversion (ABC):

* Alluring Children & Adults with gifts and toys

*N1 + Pray to Jesus = N10.

Many of us are crazy for money & wealth. Some of us are ready to go to any extent to acquire wealth. Chistianity and other manufactured cults are readily available to exploit this rage by telling people to donate and pray.

When people don't get anything in return they are told that their prayers aren't sufficient or N10+prayer will atmost get him/her a bicycle not a Rolls-Royce. This is called the "Health and Wealth" gospel in the U.S.A. - you give the church 10 percent of your gross income, and God is obligated to miraculously provide for you.


*Abduction/Kidnap

Abduction was a very popular method employed on indigenous communities. It was Primarily employed on native Canadians, Americans and Australians. This strategy is still used but at a much smaller scale while ensuring secrecy.


* Academic/History Rewriting

This strategy helps in generating a low opinion and delinking natives from their native religions, cultures and traditions.

Locals cease to retain pride in themselves after reading this literature and often become an object of ridicule in their community. Though many Scholars don't call themselves active missionaries they successfully play part a major part in the missionary game i.e., delinking.

* Alcoholism

Missionaries brought alcohol and promoted alcoholism to many communities (e.g Tahiti). The leaders habituated to alcohol did everything what missionaries said losing their entire communities to an alien an unhealthy philosophy.

* Brainwashing/Hypnosis

Conversion is another word for Brainwashing, and any study of brainwashing has to begin with a study of Christian revivalism in eighteenth century America.

Apparently, Jonathan Edwards accidentally discovered the techniques during a religious crusade in 1735 in Northampton, Massachusetts.

By inducing guilt and acute apprehension and by increasing the tension, the "sinners" attending his revival meetings would break down and completely submit.

Technically, what Edwards was doing was creating conditions that wipe the brain slate clean so that the mind accepts new programming. He would tell those attending, "You're a sinner! You're destined for hell!"

* Business/Employment evangelism

Many Christian employers and employers use employment to lure and many times force a non-Christian into their the cult of Christianity.

*Charity, Bribing and Buying souls

Charity is the most popular technique employed currently. This provides a very secular cover and insulates from all forms of questioning. This is used primarily to place long-term missionaries. They take the form of language teachers, social workers etc.

* Child Trafficking/Orphanages

Though there a very few genuine Christian charity orphanages majority of the orphanages springing up today are mainly centres of indoctrination. They believe in the 'Catch them young' principle. Many orphanages claim that they are building the future christian workers.

*Communication Manipulation

Communication is the key to evangelism. It is not what you say BUT 'HOW YOU SAY'.
Evangelists understand this concept better than anyone else. All the missionaries are trained in Marketing and Journalism. Marketing techniques are used to push their product (Jesus=Salvation; Other religions=Hell). Journalistic techniques are used to spin their stories, manage media and create stories about non-christian religions

* Contextualization/Inculturation

Contextualization is the process of adopting the native culture, practices and beliefs to make the non-christians believe that they are not in a different world.

It is an infiltration technique.

* Controlling Influential Powers/Positions

Evangelicals do not operate as hit-and-run operatives. Their ultimate objective is to control everything in the world.

Earlier Church used to control everything including food, dressing, thinking and even intimate positions (allowed only missionary position).

Evangelicals in the present day are trying to bring back their 'good-olden-days'. To achieve this they need to hold all the powerful positions whether in Judiciary, Army, Politics or Media.

cont

The following are related to the strategy 'Controlling Influential Powers/Positions':

* Create Guilt

This strategy revolves around the idea of blaming the native religion as the source of major or particular problems.


[center]The Panare killed Jesus Christ

because they were wicked.

Let's kill Jesus Christ, said the Panare.

The Panare seized Jesus Christ.

The Panare killed in this way.

The laid a cross on the ground.

They fastened his hands and his feet

against the wooden beams, with nails.

They raised him straight up, nailed.

The man died like that, nailed.

Thus the Panare killed Jesus Christ[/center]


* Creating 'LEFT-BEHIND' fear

This strategy works wonders on the psychologically impaired.

Evangelical Christians believe that theirs is the only true religion.

They usually ask the non-christians the question of 'What would be their fate in case Christianity is the true religion and native religion is false?'.

Evangelicals then describe the fate of non-christians in terms of hell, lake of fire and blood-thirsty 'second coming of Jesus' etc and advise the natives to play safe. Many psychologically impaired non-christians want to play safe and convert out of fear of being 'LEFT-BEHIND'

* Denigration and Hate Spreading

According to Christianity every non-christian religion is a work of Satan and every non-christian worships Satan. These strategies are primarily used to motivate their fellow missionaries and to create ill-will among non-christians about their religion

* Disaster Relief Exploitation

Satan Propaganda: Missionaries claim that the disaster stuck their region or village because God is angry with them. GOD is angry because non-christians worship devil and are under Satanic influence.

Most of the victims will be psychologically weak and under manipulatable conditions because they lost their family members , property and undergoing depression.

According to Southern Baptist Convention's official guide on Evangelism: The motivation behind Southern Baptist Disaster Relief efforts can be summed up in one phrase: A cup of cold water in Jesus name!?.

* Divide & Conquer(convert)

This is one of the most popular deceitful techniques employed throughout the missionary history; the favourite strategy for the British and Americans during the infamous crusades.

Differences and enimity among individuals are created or exploited in pitting one group against another.

This is very popular among indigenous communities as it is very easy to generate enimity between multiple factions.



cont

* Education/Schools

In many regions such as Afghanistan and many Islamic countries, Education though didn't help much in direct evangelism but helped missionaries put their foot into unreached regions and establish contacts with people. School work is an excellent mask for evangelical activities.

* Fake armies/Fake soldiers of God

Many Christian families produce excessive number of children to be brought up in a different fundamentalist cult like mentality.  These kids grown up in such restrictive and conditioned environment are expected to carry forward  and impose the fundamentalist mentality they are brought up in.  The pastor or father controls everything related to upbringing of the children such as even picking the nail color the kids can use.

* Exorcism (this is primarily a Catholic procedure)

Catholic church promotes the notion that the negative tendencies in the world are due to Devils(imaginary creatures).

How to get rid of Devils?.

Catholic church practices an occult medieval practice called Exorcism.

When a comman man is in trouble, the local church clandestinely brainwashes the gullible that Devils are source for all the ills and they have the solution called 'Exorcism' to get rid of Satan/Devils.

The common man under distress easily falls into this trap

* Fear of "End of World" (Acocalypse)

Missionaries brainwash and instill a fear that 'end-of-the-world' is coming.

Missionaries 'guarantee' heaven (as if they own that dreamland) to converts and those who don't convert are cast in the 'Lake of Fire'.

Guillible victims fall prey to that concept and convert. Earthquakes and recently Indian Ocean Tsunami were all marketed by missionaries as a'divine wrath and warning from GOD' for not converting

* GENOCIDES

* FAKE Healing

* THE PERSECUTION CLAIMS

Missionaries always go on about 'Christians around the world are persecuted because of their beliefs'.

Are Christians really being persecuted all around the world?

Persecution claims are made to gain sympathy, extract naira from the well-off and ward off any potential opposition to their sinster activity.

* Promoting political activities

Evangelicals form pressure groups. Sensing the power of such groups that too the ones supported by western powers many more people convert into Christianity for their personal and political gains

* Public Relations(PR) Campaigns

If there is anybody in the world who mastered the art of Public Relations (PR), it is the Western Church.

They remain unscathed irrespective of the magnitude of crimes and genocides they commit.

Their public relations engine works throughout the day.

Due to their PR campaigns many people develop a larger than life view of missionaries and fall prey to their nefarious activities.

* Scripture Manipulation

Evangelicals are masters in manipulating their scriptures as well as non-christian scriptures.

[center]God will burn you all,

burn all the animals, burn also the earth,

the heavens, absolutely everything.

He will burn also the Panare themselves.

God will exterminate the Panare by throwing them on the fire.

It is a huge fire.

I am going to hurl the Panare into the fire, said God.

,

God is good.

'Do you want to be roasted in the fire?' asks God.

'Do you have something to pay me with so that I won't roast you in the fire?

What is it you're going to pay me?'[/center]



* Terrorism & Militancy

Communities who refused to convert to Christianity are massacred.

Baptist Church of Nagaland is the command centre of terrorism in Nagalim.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^


BEAUTIFUL POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL TRIBALS PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









i have heard of the alcoholism technicque. The Mohican Tribe of North America became extinct due to introduction of alcohol by the foreign whitmen.


also i have heard of the Nagaland christian terrorist group. Allmost all Naga Tribes and clans in North-East India were secretly and foricibly converted to christianity in the span of the past 50 years. the group still operates and kills anyone who thinks otherwise.



The Gods help us all.







Before:










After:

PAGAN 9JA:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^


BEAUTIFUL POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL TRIBALS PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









i have heard of the alcoholism technicque. The Mohican Tribe of North America became extinct due to introduction of alcohol by the foreign whitmen.


also i have heard of the Nagaland christian terrorist group. Allmost all Naga Tribes and clans in North-East India were secretly and foricibly converted to christianity in the span of the past 50 years. the group still operates and kills anyone who thinks otherwise.



The Gods help us all.







Before:










After:

Gbam

The Warning of God's Wrath!

[1] "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?  [2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, [3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.  [4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.  [5] Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.  [6] Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.  [7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.  [8] Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.  [9] Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.  [10] Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.  [11] Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.  [12] Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him" (Psalm 2:1-12).

In 1969, 24 people decided to ignore warnings that Hurricane Camille was heading for Mississipi.  They instead made up their minds that they were going to ride it out.  23 of them died in the hurricane.  The guys like Amujale and PAGAN 9JA here are attempting to do the same mistake by their repeated defiance of God's warning.

The cross is a warning of the fierce hurricane of God's wrath, which no one will "ride out" on Judgment Day.  The only way to flee the coming wrath is to "kiss the Son," that is, to yield to the Lordship of the Saviour, Jesus Christ.  Those who put their trust in Him are blessed with forgiveness and eternal life.

^^^^^

who are you to decide for[i] our [/i] God

PAGAN 9JA:

^^^^^

who are you to decide for[i] our [/i] God

I did not decide for your god for I don't know who your god is. It is you who will decide whether your words and actions fits into the criteria laid out in Psalm 2:1-12 quoted earlier. Your decision determines your destiny.

^^^^^

yes you did. your Gods is my God too. the only difference being that you are wrorshipping God and the supernetural powers in the wrong way, and your actions are indirectly spreading evil.

by putting words into Gods mouth, words which you falsely claim he said, you are insulting the forces.