sheriffman:

@ Beaf pls which states do u define as d core north/ I ve lived in d north all my life and I can tell u dat the Almajiri syndrome is in all the staes of d north.Kaduna,Kano,Borno see just name it they r there in amazing numbers.The elites ve benefited frm d system and they see BH taking recruits frm this Almajiris hence the Noise they r now making.Let the guvs and d elites start a cleansing,reformation process for these pple then d FG can support them.

Rhino.5dm:

^Those are my thought exactly. When you are busy drumming for the project, i cautioned your ignorance about how things work in the north. I specifically mention that FG has no business in putting hand directly into fire, other than making laws through the legislative arms that would criminalize the activities of Almajiris and their parents.

But i was called names from the "befnefato of almajiri" to "Jihadist", and all that.

All you need to do is, tell GEJ to hold each respective governor with almajiri issue accountable, and responsible for making sure that the menace is eradicated. Afteral is more of culture and ignorance.

Beaf:

So, I say try, try, try and try again, and one day success will come.

Beaf:

With boko haram replacing almajiri's, there is very little hope. It looks like things will only get worse for the core-North.

ndu_chucks:

Let me first state categorically that the problem of Almajirai can be solved in only 5 years if the will to do so exists. It is a known fact that the Almajiris of the North [b]and the ordinary people of the Niger Delta area, including the ogonis who continue to live in abject poverty while the few elite enrich themselves and their cronies by stealing the wealth generated from the Niger Delta region, [/b]are indeed the most marginalized groups in Nigeria. I say again that the shame belongs to all of you people who refuse to demand a change by using your voting rights sensibly.

The concept of Almajirai has been bastardized and is no longer a nobel cause of turning a child into a Islamic scholar. Today, a child becomes an Almajiri when there is high striking poverty line in his family to take care of his essential needs such as sustenance. Some children are forced to become one simply when they lose their parents and when their relatives or guardians cannot keep them. Most of such children become victims when their parents send them to Quranic schools outside their hometowns. Have you ever wondered why the children of the elite, governors, doctors, engineers, even civil service workers, are not Almajiri?

The practice of Almajirai today,  is nothing but gross child abuse which must be punishable by law. If this child abuse is left unchecked, there will be more  Boko Harams and even worse in the near future because Nigeria's Almajiri children are learning a life of poverty and violence.

In  2008 there was a raging debate over the Bill for an act to provide for the establishment of the National Commission for the Eradication of Child Destitution in Nigeria, otherwise known as almajiri bil. The fact that it  passed a second reading in the senate is a clear pointer to how serious the almajiri issue is to many people. Unfortunately, the bill was never passed.  I urge GEJ to submit another version of the bill to NASS for immediate consideration, in light of the security challenges we face.

No child should be subjected to the kind of child abuse which the Almajiris experience daily.

Relax101:

Nobody asked for your opinion about the Ogoni people.
Please whatever your plans are for the almajiris in Northern Nigeria will be appreciated.
You always come with this and that for the south but you will never face the problems in the north where majority of the population is uneducated.
You need to face your responsibilities man and stop trying to be helpful when your people in the north are worst hit.
As usual I expect you not to understand but reply in a cunning way.
Ina kwana.

ndu_chucks:

Your reaction to my post has confirmed that you are a brain dead dullard not worthy of any response from me. I make an exception here to give you another opportunity to reread my post and adjust your response to it, appropriately. I don't believe that you are an illeterate but I think you are letting your bigotry get the best out of you.

Mr--Why:

What are the Northern Elites doing to educate their populace ?

Beaf:

The states you mentioned are all in the core-North. These are the core-Northern states:

[list]
[li]Sokoto[/li]
[li]Katsina[/li]
[li]Kano[/li]
[li]Kebbi[/li]
[li]Jigawa[/li]
[li]Zamfara[/li]
[li]Northern Kaduna is in the core-North, while Southern Kaduna is in the Middle Belt[/li]
[li]Yobe, Bauchi and Bornu are marginally core-Northern[/li]
[/list]

ndu_chucks:

Let me first state categorically that the problem of Almajirai can be solved in only 5 years if the will to do so exists. It is a known fact that the Almajiris of the North and the ordinary people of the Niger Delta area, including the ogonis who continue to live in abject poverty while the few elite enrich themselves and their cronies by stealing the wealth generated from the Niger Delta region, are indeed the most marginalized groups in Nigeria. I say again that the shame belongs to all of you people who refuse to demand a change by using your voting rights sensibly.

The concept of Almajirai has been bastardized and is no longer a nobel cause of turning a child into a Islamic scholar. Today, a child becomes an Almajiri when there is high striking poverty line in his family to take care of his essential needs such as sustenance. Some children are forced to become one simply when they lose their parents and when their relatives or guardians cannot keep them. Most of such children become victims when their parents send them to Quranic schools outside their hometowns. Have you ever wondered why the children of the elite, governors, doctors, engineers, even civil service workers, are not Almajiri?

The practice of Almajirai today,  is nothing but gross child abuse which must be punishable by law. If this child abuse is left unchecked, there will be more  Boko Harams and even worse in the near future because Nigeria's Almajiri children are learning a life of poverty and violence.

[b]In  2008 there was a raging debate over the Bill for an act to provide for the establishment of the National Commission for the Eradication of Child Destitution in Nigeria, otherwise known as almajiri bil. [/b]The fact that it  passed a second reading in the senate is a clear pointer to how serious the almajiri issue is to many people. Unfortunately, the bill was never passed.  I urge GEJ to submit another version of the bill to NASS for immediate consideration, in light of the security challenges we face.

No child should be subjected to the kind of child abuse which the Almajiris experience daily.

mtaj:

How do you come by your definition of the core-North? There is no place called the core-North in Nigeria. I presume you are trying to say that these are the states that have the highest percentage of Muslims, in which case you should be ready to coin a new name for those states in the Southwest that have a sizeable percentage of Muslims.

Beaf:

Mallam, please cut out the tears about Ogoni people when the current issue is almajiri. You cannot divert our attention with any tricks.

As for the almajiri bill, what were the real reasons it wasn't passed? I'm asking that question because I know for sure that the core-North is the ONLY region that has kicked against, openly challenged and shamefully subverted the child rights act, because of the twin disgraceful reasons of almajirinci and the culture of child brides (most would call it paedophilia). Some as of these child brides are as young as 10 years old, and senator Yerima with his 13 year old Egyptian bride is a stand out example. How can we ever move the region forward when we are obstructed with such startling cultural views?

ndu_chucks:

Cut the bull and stop blaming North for for everything under the sun. The said bill actually passed a second reading in the senate and  its supporters included Northerners. GEJ has pledged to agressively support childern's rights and his leadership on the matter is needed now, more than ever before. No child in Nigeria deserves to be abused as the Almajiris, the children sold into slavery, the children used as housemaids, and the children trafficed overseas for prostitution. Let us urge and support GEJ in this matter. GEJ pledged to address the problem was elected, we await his leadership.

Beaf:

The term "core-North" was coined by core-Northerners themselves in Obj's time; I certainly didn't coin it (much as I love its implied and unfortunate meaning). It was meant to place a distinction between them and Middle Belters (Obj cunningly chose to give ranking positions to Middle Belters as "Northeners," and the "core-Northerners" kicked up dust and hell. Please blame them, thank you.

Beaf:

Should we blame Middle Belters and Southerners for the almajiri culture then? Strange reasoning indeed, its like running away from your own shadow.
Whenever your Senate (including "Northerners" passes the law to be signed by GEJ, I'm sure he will sign it. Until that day, any inertia in recognising child rights in Nigeria is from the core-North. Where you not among those either sitting on the wall or arguing for the cultural viewpoint of the "rightness" of marrying girls off at tender ages as backed by sharia when the Yerima 13 year old bride issue was raging? You can't eat your cake and have it, bruv.

Cultures have to be trashed as a first step and that begins with introspection by your people, not Middle Belters or Southerners who do not have 20% of their kids as almajiri's.

mtaj:


How do you come by your definition of the core-North? There is no place called the core-North in Nigeria. I presume you are trying to say that these are the states that have the highest percentage of Muslims,

Beaf:

[li]Yobe, Bauchi and Bornu are marginally core-Northern[/li]
[/list]

Beaf:

The states you mentioned are all in the core-North. These are the core-Northern states:

[list]
[li]Sokoto[/li]
[li]Katsina[/li]
[li]Kano[/li]
[li]Kebbi[/li]
[li]Jigawa[/li]
[li]Zamfara[/li]
[li]Northern Kaduna is in the core-North, while Southern Kaduna is in the Middle Belt[/li]
[li]Yobe, Bauchi and Bornu are marginally core-Northern[/li]
[/list]

mtaj:


How do you come by your definition of the core-North? There is no place called the core-North in Nigeria. I presume you are trying to say that these are the states that have the highest percentage of Muslims, in which case you should be ready to coin a new name for those states in the Southwest that have a sizeable percentage of Muslims.

Ayowumie:

Mind you, there are places you refer to as the core north. Even though, it is not used in "official" term, the term exists. It used to create a distinction between the north and the north-central. In general sense, it used to point out states that are predominantly muslim in the north. The reason why they dont use the term "core" for south is because religion is not a major factor of divide in the south.
You are wrong, Bauchi and Borno are also referred to as core north. You can only eliminate them if by "core-north", you only limit you definition to north-west and even if you do this, your definition should be explicitly stated.

Beaf:

The term, core-North has nothing to do with Islam, otherwise Kwara would be classified as core-North. Your definition fails.
The core-North refers to states that are predominantly Hausa-Fulani or are strongly allied to the Hausa-Fulani.

ndu_chucks:

You must be suffering from amnesia if you think I was arguing for the cultural viewpoint of the "rightness" of a barbaric act of child abuse. abi you are getting old ni?

Unlike you, I don't see the issue of child abuse as a Northern or Southern problem. It is a national problem. You have the Almajiris in the North, Child laborers (housemaids) etc in the South, child trafficing for prostitution, and baby factories in the South. We will support GEJ's efforts in addressing these issues. olodo

Beaf: When you say you will support GEJ's efforts, just how are you proposing to do this? Because as I said earlier, the core-North needs a full cultural rebirth to rid itself and the country off the almajiri curse.

ndu_chucks:

I mean we will support GEJ, morally, in the NASS, mass media, and in any other area he needs our support in dealing with this issue of child abuse. Stop bellittling yourself by putting child abuse on a scale by saying that it is worse in one area of the country than others. These Children, who are God's children by the way, need our support in everyway.

This issue is too serious and disgraceful to be politicized by you.