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Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by jaybee3(m): 10:07am On Jan 25, 2012
American politics is very very interesting.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by isalegan2: 4:20pm On Jan 29, 2012
It's getting down to the nitty-gritty. The Republicans are going on record - choosing sides.

Their establishment is down for Romney. Only the mavericks are admitting for the Newt. lol

So the big primaries so far: Santorum won Iowa; Romney won NH; Gingrich won SC. Is that right?

So, the next big one is Florida, on Tuesday. We've been treated to all the political machinations for about a week now. They had that last debate where Romney came out swinging against Newt, who was for some reason, a little muted compared to his typical caustic aggressive self. He was also unable to be effective with the usual tactic of waylaying the reporters who are asking legitimate questions.

At the moment, one of the weekly current affairs shows has as their guests, former presidential candidate McCain, and former actor Senator Fred Thompson, who are "debating" for their candidates.

Thompson has been out of politics for a while and it shows. Dude is very relaxed and just having fun. He opened the floor by conceding that Romney will win Florida. . . shocked . .but that all of the first 4 primaries add up to only 10% of delegates. BTW, the program put up the polls that shows Romney is about 12 points ahead in Florida.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by armyofone(m): 9:52pm On Jan 29, 2012
Sarah Palin as the maverick huh grin grin grin

she is supporting Newt. That woman surely got her bread buttered.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by dayokanu(m): 4:56am On Feb 01, 2012
Romney wins Florida with a 14point gap

Romney 46%, Gingrich 32%, Santorum 13%, Paul 7%

After 95% of votes

Total delegates to date

Romney 84
Gingrich 27
Paul 10
Santorum 8
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by thameamead(f): 3:13pm On Feb 03, 2012
armyofone:

Sarah Palin as the maverick huh grin grin grin

she is supporting Newt. That woman surely got her bread buttered.

Newt has promised Sarah Palin a seat if he becomes President, that Sarah Palin woman thinks highly of herself, she should dissappear without a trace, she's made millions from politics, what more does she want, silly woman, she is a scam artist, pretending to want to run for president to sell more of her books, playing the will she wont-she game, later saying she would run if God wanted her to run and finailly saying she was not going to run. hissss
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by thameamead(f): 3:21pm On Feb 03, 2012
Donald Trump is a confused soul, initially he was Newt's side but suddenly switched to Mitt Romney, I thought he was a Democrat, poor Obama, now he knows who his real friends, Trump dined at the White House a couple of times before he jumped on the Obama birth certficate wagon. Obama has bn a disappointment, I think its too late to make ammends. he spent too much time sulking up to the Republicans and Fox News.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by armyofone(m): 4:48pm On Feb 03, 2012
it's all so confusing. anyway, i will stand by soul brother.
Trump, smh.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 8:06am On Feb 05, 2012
thameamead:


Donald Trump is a confused soul, initially he was Newt's side but suddenly switched to Mitt Romney, I thought he was a Democrat, poor Obama, now he knows who his real friends, Trump dined at the White House a couple of times before he jumped on the Obama birth certficate wagon. Obama has bn a disappointment, I think its too late to make ammends. he spent too much time sulking up to the Republicans and Fox News.

He's been flip flopping, jumping from one party to the other like a Nigerian politician.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by thameamead(f): 3:01pm On Feb 07, 2012
Politics is really an ugly business, Wall Street supported Obama and now they are backing Romney despite Obama bending backwards for them, All the A List celebrities that backed Obama have all disappeared without a trace. Romney is tax dodger, paying 13% tax on earnings of $20M, right wing politician in the states and here in thE UK seem to not want to pay tax, their priority seem to be to want low tax for the rich and cut welfare for the poor, most vulnerable, elderly.

I can see Romney winning the nomination, at least voters know where they stand with him, he says his proprity is not the poor but the rich. I love the way their is divison in the Republican party, the likes of Palin, the right wing nut case radio host Rush Limough and Donald Trump are backing Newt while the others are backing Romney, may it go on for as long as possible, I prefer American Politians to the boring David Camerobn and his tea boy -Nick Cleggover.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 4:14pm On Feb 07, 2012
Yeah, its really ugly but interesting.

About Obama loosing wall street support, I once heard DNC chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz saying the DNC will not accept money from federal lobbyists or PACs, I dont know if it has an effect on wall street support; however, they made a U-turn on that just today.

It might be too early to make any meaningful predictions because its still a bit early in the campaign and a lot of voters are still undecided, but I dont think Romney has what it takes to defeat Obama and its funny to see a lot of republicans throwing their support for him now.

Out of the pack, Santorum seems to be the most intelligent and capable of taking on Obama on a debate and he has clearly defined plans  for different parts of the economy but rather extreme views when it comes to religion, morals and other areas that concern liberals, worst of all, he's broke undecided.

Mr Newt is intelligent too and has clearly defined plans for sectors of the economy but he has an entire graveyard in his wardrobe which can be used against him and fellow repubs dont like him that much.  undecided

So Newt and Santorum try to sound like they have plans (which might not necessarily work) but are the kinds of things voters like to hear in a campaign, Mitt Romney doesnt, he spends more time on his campaign attacking his republican opponents and Obama and when he tries to talk like he has an economic plan, it doesnt sound very convincing. Mitt Romney is a terrible when it comes to answering questions right, be it in a debate or a casual question from a voter, an unanticipated question is sure to leave him flat footed; if he gets the nomination, will be murdered in a debate by Obama.

The only thing Romney has over Rick and Newt is money which he has put to good use by having organized campaigns and offices in different states. Apart from that, he's the worst of all the bad candidates the repubs have out out.

But what makes it interesting are the twists and turns that occasionally come up, Newt's sponsor, Sheldon Adelson, the casino billionaire that funded Newt's destruction of Romney in South Carolina is planning to ditch Newt for Romney and cowardly Tim Pawlenty joining forces with Romney to attack Santorum, Im sure he's trying to make a claim for the VP slot but Romney might have other plans , probably Chris Christie or Marco Rubio.

Did i miss someone out? oops Ron Paul, I really dont know what direction he's headed.  undecided undecided
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by isalegan2: 7:53pm On Feb 07, 2012
thameamead:

. . .  I love the way their is divison in the Republican party, the likes of Palin, the right wing nut case radio host Rush Limough and Donald Trump are backing Newt while the others are backing Romney . . .   

I think there was some speculation that Trump doesn't really like Romney (who does?), and that may be the case, but he went ahead and called a press conference to voice his support, a few days ago. 

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Romney Endorsement Came Down to China: Trump
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46293279
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by JeSoul(f): 9:47pm On Feb 07, 2012
Much is being made of the bad belle between Newt & Mitt . . . . but do we all have collective amnesia? Theirs is not even close to the oscar-grammy-SAG award-winning drama that unsued between Obama & Hillary just 3yrs ago. Much like there is no honor among thieves - there is no friendship amongst politicians. Alliances and rivalries are forged on the oath of 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours'. Enemies today will quickly become bedfellows tomorrow as long the relationship is mutually beneficial to both. If Romney got into office, Newt would be in the cabinet somewhere.

Anyways . . . Trump's endorsement doesn't mean much, at all. Newt shouldn't worry though, he has Herman Cain's support . . . birds of the same feather will always flock together.

   
Kay-Dee:
Out of the pack, Santorum seems to be the most intelligent and capable of taking on Obama on a debate and he has clearly defined plans  for different parts of the economy but rather extreme views when it comes to religion, morals and other areas that concern liberals, worst of all, he's broke undecided.
Hmmm . . . we must both be watching different Santorums. The one I have been seeing . . . in a debate, Obama will eat him for lunch, crack, chew & then spit out the bones
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by TayoD1(m): 11:18pm On Feb 07, 2012
@JeSoul,

Anyways . . . Trump's endorsement doesn't mean much, at all.
Abeg speak for yourself. There are rumors that Trump claimed responsibility for Mitt winning with such a high margin in Nevada. I tell yah, the only thing bigger than Trump's mouth is his ego!!!

Newt shouldn't worry though, he has Herman Cain's support . . . birds of the same feather will always flock together.
grin grin grin That's a punch below the belt! But grin grin grin grin anyway!!

Hmmm . . . we must both be watching different Santorums. The one I have been seeing
Actually, based on the last debate in Florida, Santorium did better than all others. He was there with a good command of the facts and dished it out in full to both Romney and Newt. If he's been like that from the start, he would be doing better today in the polls. Debate aside though, he is the closest thing to a true conservative of the lot.

. . . in a debate, Obama will eat him for lunch, crack, chew & then spit out the bones
This Obama debating skills is highly overrated. The bobo no smart like that jo. All his opponent needs to do now is make him talk specifics and not let him get away with the highfalutin language that is short of substance. That won him the election 3 years ago, but rubber don meet road now.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by Nobody: 2:02am On Feb 08, 2012
Tayo-D:

@JeSoul,
Abeg speak for yourself. There are rumors that Trump claimed responsibility for Mitt winning with such a high margin in Nevada. I tell yah, the only thing bigger than Trump's mouth is his ego!!!
grin grin grin That's a punch below the belt! But grin grin grin grin anyway!!
Actually, based on the last debate in Florida, Santorium did better than all others. He was there with a good command of the facts and dished it out in full to both Romney and Newt. If he's been like that from the start, he would be doing better today in the polls. Debate aside though, he is the closest thing to a true conservative of the lot.
This Obama debating skills is highly overrated. The bobo no smart like that jo. All his opponent needs to do now is make him talk specifics and not let him get away with the highfalutin language that is short of substance. That won him the election 3 years ago, but rubber don meet road now.

wait till debate then come back and cover your head in shame
sheybi unemployment dey go down,gdp dey go up but its the racist bunch that u are all rooting for,go on soun
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by dayokanu(m): 5:23am On Feb 08, 2012
Looks like Santorum would win in Minnesota and Missouri

Colorado is still dicey
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by JeSoul(f): 4:19pm On Feb 08, 2012
Tayo-D:

@JeSoul,
Abeg speak for yourself. There are rumors that Trump claimed responsibility for Mitt winning with such a high margin in Nevada. I tell yah, the only thing bigger than Trump's mouth is his ego!!!
Lol. The Apprentice is about to start soon . . . he has to get some publicity one way or another.

grin grin grin That's a punch below the belt! But grin grin grin grin anyway!!
Hehe. No be lie now.

Actually, based on the last debate in Florida, Santorium did better than all others. He was there with a good command of the facts and dished it out in full to both Romney and Newt. If he's been like that from the start, he would be doing better today in the polls. Debate aside though, he is the closest thing to a true conservative of the lot.
Perhaps, but Santorum does not have the 'IT' factor. He comes off as a guy who is out of his league, able to score points here and there but will not be winning the MVP award anytime soon. I wish there were better options than Newt & Mitt. This is truly sad for the GOP.

This Obama debating skills is highly overrated. The bobo no smart like that jo. All his opponent needs to do now is make him talk specifics and not let him get away with the highfalutin language that is short of substance. That won him the election 3 years ago, but rubber don meet road now.
Lol. He's smart and cunning because he recognized that you don't have to talk "specifics" in order to sway the listeners. But you may be right . . . the flowery talk may not be enough to cut it this time around. We go see just how hard that rubber don jam road smiley
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 4:52pm On Feb 08, 2012
JeSoul:

Hmmm . . . we must both be watching different Santorums. The one I have been seeing . . . in a debate, Obama will eat him for lunch, crack, chew & then spit out the bones

By saying "capable of taking on Obama", I didnt mean capable of defeating Obama 

He's better than the rest because he argues with real facts and knows how to draw clear comparisons between policies he doesn't agree with and the alternatives he proposes. (I dont like him anyway ).  cheesy
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by JeSoul(f): 5:16pm On Feb 08, 2012
Kay-Dee:

By saying "capable of taking on Obama", I didnt mean capable of defeating Obama 

He's better than the rest because he argues with real facts and knows how to draw clear comparisons between policies he doesn't agree with and the alternatives he proposes. (I dont like him anyway ).  cheesy
Lol. Got it. You are right about his skill for 'comparing & contrasting'. But alas in American politics having a good grasp of the "facts" are not enough to win debates & more importantly hearts - or else he would be riding the polls all the way to the convention.

Funny enough I do think he is relatively speaking, the 'best' of the 4 of them or as Tayo said the 'truest conservative' of the pack . . . but unfortunately he doesn't have a chance.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by dayokanu(m): 5:26pm On Feb 08, 2012
One thing about debates is it doesnt have to be about facts Actually it does so little with facts but just flowery words emotions etc

E.g Look at the Debate before the South carolina primary where Gingrich laid into John King, You would know John King asked a legitimate question but Gingrich being a good debater turned it around attacking the media and won applause on the night and the votes on the day.

Debating is a skill I think Barack has more than these candidates Newt would come close
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 9:10pm On Feb 08, 2012
JeSoul:

Lol. Got it. You are right about his skill for 'comparing & contrasting'. But alas in American politics having a good grasp of the "facts" are not enough to win debates & more importantly hearts - or else he would be riding the polls all the way to the convention.

Funny enough I do think he is relatively speaking, the 'best' of the 4 of them or as Tayo said the 'truest conservative' of the pack . . . but unfortunately he doesn't have a chance.

. . . . i forgot to mention, he (Santorum) lacks charisma too. grin

By him winning Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri (although relatively low key contests), means its going to be a very long roller coaster ride for all contenders. All the republican candidates are seriously handicapped in a way or two. Better for Obama.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by JeSoul(f): 10:21pm On Feb 08, 2012
Kay-Dee:

. . . . i forgot to mention, he (Santorum) lacks charisma too. grin
Charisma. That's the word!

By him winning Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri (although relatively low key contests), means its going to be a very long roller coaster ride for all contenders. All the republican candidates are seriously handicapped in a way or two. Better for Obama.
lol. The guy probably has his feet up laughing in the oval office. But the last thing he can do is to relax . . . living in democratic massachusetts I am stunned by the amount of lifetime democrats I'm hearing say they will seriously consider voting for the republican candidate.

  I think it was Newt who suffered most by Santorum's recent sweep . . . he has overtaken him in the delegate count for the #2 spot, Romney is still more than double ahead. I would even prefer a tight race btw Romney & Santorum than Gingrich. And I hope it will help voters remember Newt - while trying to pitch himself as as 'outsider' - has been part of the 'Washington establishment' for a lifetime. We don't need to recycle used & damaged goods here, there are plenty of young & bright people out there who can run for office . . . *cough cough* my boy Scott Brown in 2016 cool he better not mess up btw now & then . . .
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 3:51am On Feb 15, 2012
What is happening to Mitt Romney ? He's getting the cold shoulder treatment from Michigan voters which is supposed to be his native state and where his father was once governor. Santorum is ahead of him in all the polls and he (Romney) seems to have jumped from frying pan to fire  by trying to convince Republicans that he is "severely conservative". Gingrich has once again faded completely, not ruling out a 2nd resurrection for him though.

Santorum's surge can be said to mean little or nothing as no one can say for sure which way the drama will swing next besides Ron Paul is still in the race.  grin grin

The show goes on, next stop Michigan/Arizona.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by isalegan2: 3:51am On Feb 23, 2012
They're having a debate in Arizona with Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Ron Paul making too much sense. Dude has nothing to lose and he's out there telling the truth as he sees it. He's telling them they cannot continue to engage in these undeclared wars. . .they want to go make war on Iran over one nuclear weapon while the old USSR had 30,000 nuclear warheads and the USA talked to them but even with 45 US bases surrounding Iran they still want to instigate a disastrous war with Iran. . . and Al Qaida has triggered the USA to bankrupt itself by spending all their money on wars that leads to more radicalisation of the rest of the world. . .

They can't handle the truth, old man! pack it up. They want lies lies and more lies!

On a serious note, it's too bad friendly fire hasn't taken out that publicity-hungry racist corrupt xenophobe, Sheriff Arpaio or is it Omutiyo. undecided
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by dayokanu(m): 6:06am On Feb 24, 2012
Mitt Romney supports bailout for the financial industry but oppose bailout to the auto industry
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by armyofone(m): 5:06pm On Feb 24, 2012
and the auto industry is picking up now eh. just let Mitt continue speaking from both side of the mouth.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 9:33pm On Feb 24, 2012
Romney still insists he would not have bailed out the auto industry.

Those repubs are all clowns, especially when they start talking like they've all got magic solutions to all the problems.

Imagine Gingrich promising $2.50/gallon of gas like he's going to accomplish that by mere word of mouf.

Santorum is starting to sound like a psycho extremist now,  with the Satan comment, the contraceptive drama and now the "Obama wants to send all kids to college to get them indoctrinated " story. The other day he said if he was president he would immediately order air strikes to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities, really !!! that easy ? meanwhile, Ron Paul is campaigning for "no more wars".

These guys are all over the place flip flopping like fishes on dry land.  grin grin
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by thameamead(f): 12:01pm On Feb 27, 2012
Romney backed Obama's Health Reform bill but guess what? he's now against it, they are all birds of a feather, they all can't be trusted on anything, Newt and Santorum say Obama should not have apologised for the burning of the Koran in Afghnistan by American troops, these Republican candidates make me laugh, too much flip flopping. turns our Ron Paul is bn helped by a superpac, he's bn bankrolled by the CEO of Paypal, am quite shocked, am not a fan of SuperPac's but i wonder why a millionaire business of Newt gave his campaighn $7M, someone would give such a huge amount of money if he gets something back in return, hmm these American politician are as corrupt as the ones in places like Iraq & Russia, Obama is not off the hook yet,
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by thameamead(f): 12:02pm On Feb 27, 2012
Romney backed Obama's Health Reform bill but guess what? he's now against it, they are all birds of a feather, they all can't be trusted on anything, Newt and Santorum say Obama should not have apologised for the burning of the Koran in Afghnistan by American troops, these Republican candidates make me laugh, too much flip flopping. turns our Ron Paul is bn helped by a superpac, he's bn bankrolled by the CEO of Paypal, am quite shocked, am not a fan of SuperPac's but i wonder why a millionaire business of Newt gave his campaighn $7M,  someone would give such a huge amount of money if he gets something back in return, hmm these American politician are as corrupt as the ones in places like Iraq & Russia, Obama is not off the hook yet, he's missed his chances, no chance of a second term
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by isalegan2: 1:44am On Feb 28, 2012
Liberal writer/comedian Bill Maher is donating one million greenbacks to a P.A.C. supporting Obama's re-election.  Damn!  Just think about how many hungry children that can feed?  Instead, he spends it on this two-faced bastard who's creating more and more wars all around the globe! 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57384446-503544/bill-maher-donates-$1m-to-obama-super-pac/

Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher on Thursday night announced he's donating $1 million to Priorities USA Action, the super PAC supporting President Obama.

Maher brought out a large check during a live performance of his show "StupidCrazyPolitics" in San Jose, California. The comedian tweeted that the donation was a surprise to Yahoo, which broadcast the standup performance.

There are no limits to the dollar amount donors can give to super PACs, and the rise of the third party groups has created a collection of well-heeled donors who are investing significant sums of money to influence the 2012 election. Maher isn't the only high-profile figure supporting the pro-Obama group -- Hollywood mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, the fifth biggest super PAC player, gave $2 million to Priorities USA Action last May, and Steven Spielberg has also donated $100,00 to the group.

Still, Maher's donation is big news for Priorities USA Action -- the group raised only about $59,000 in January. Meanwhile, the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC Restore Our Future and the pro-Newt Gingrich group Winning Our Future raised a combined $17 million last month.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by KayDee4: 8:37am On Feb 28, 2012
isale_gan2:

Liberal writer/comedian Bill Maher is donating one million greenbacks to a P.A.C. supporting Obama's re-election.  Damn!  Just think about how many hungry children that can feed?  Instead, he spends it on this two-faced bastard who's creating more and more wars all around the globe! 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57384446-503544/bill-maher-donates-$1m-to-obama-super-pac/


Huhh  !!! Now you're starting to sound like a Fox News reporter  grin grin.

But seriously, how about the republican donors and candidates? Sheldon Adelson has given over $11mil to Newt Gingrich and 'already rich' Mitt Romney still gets a lot of money from his millionaire friends and these 2 mainly spend this money on running negative ads about each other, go check how much has been spent on TV ads for the primaries so far, I think that is stupidly wasteful. Santorum has his 'aspirin between the knees' backer and Ron Paul has his own little millionaire sponsor too. So I don't know why its okay for repubs to get donations and its a problem when Obama gets some. 

. . . . .  and what new war had Obama created ? He hasn't even caved in to the extreme provocation by Iran.
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by isalegan2: 3:59pm On Feb 28, 2012
Kay-Dee:

Huhh  !!! Now you're starting to sound like a Fox News reporter  grin grin.

But seriously, how about the republican donors and candidates? Sheldon Adelson has given over $11mil to Newt Gingrich and 'already rich' Mitt Romney still gets a lot of money from his millionaire friends and these 2 mainly spend this money on running negative ads about each other, go check how much has been spent on TV ads for the primaries so far, I think that is stupidly wasteful. Santorum has his 'aspirin between the knees' backer and Ron Paul has his own little millionaire sponsor too. So I don't know why its okay for repubs to get donations and its a problem when Obama gets some. 

. . . . .  and what new war had Obama created ? He hasn't even caved in to the extreme provocation by Iran.

Fail!  tongue

1) Fox News doesn't give a hoot about starving children.

2) I don't give a hoot about Republican Donors or Candidates.

3) I expect more sense from Bill Maher.

4) Obama pretended to be something he's not; he turned out to be no different from any other US politician as regards foreign policy.  If you lie to me and betray me, you better believe I'm gonna keep coming for your jugular.  angry

5) Iran provoke what?  shocked shocked shocked You cannot be serious!  undecided
Re: Who Would Be Obamas Opponent In 2012 by dayokanu(m): 7:20pm On Feb 28, 2012
Republican Primary in Michigan promises to be a close call between Romney who was born in Michigan and Rick Santorum

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