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|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by eGuerrilla(m): 7:51pm On Oct 31, 2011|
I think you need to be careful here, Auwal87, in order to avoid conflating distinct issues.
I say this because I have seen 1st degree holders in different fields of engineering describe themselves as 'engineers', when nothing could be further removed from the truth. What you've brought into shape focus now is a very Nigerian disease, unique and location-specific only
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by eGuerrilla(m): 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Wait a minute.
The origins of the Oxford Princeton Programme lies in two entities known as: The College of Petroleum and Energy Studies (Oxford, UK) and Princeton Energy Programme (Princeton, New Jersey, USA). This much I wrote earlier.
Back to a question I posed a short while ago; what triggered this scrutiny of Mr Oniwon's credos?
Is this intended as pay back of some sort?
You are a brother from the North, right?
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 8:16pm On Oct 31, 2011|
What triggered this scrutiny?
Ans. A fellow looking to enrol his son on the paths of the NNPC's GMD. Both University of Oxford, Havard University, does not offer any of the qualificationa that Austen claimed to have, more so, it was never on their inventory of programs offered by the Universities.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by VoodooDoll(m): 8:22pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Ready, miss, fire!!!
Research skills are truly lacking in Nigerian students and researchers.
OP, you may be right but the data produced so far is circumstantial and poor.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 8:23pm On Oct 31, 2011|
It should have a cure.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by KnowAll(m): 8:25pm On Oct 31, 2011|
We must get something right thus, he has a first degree in Chemistry which is com firmable. If that is d case going by how things are done abroad, a man who has worked for the NNPC since 1977, his experience rather than his paper certificate is his most valuable asset.
One thing we fail to realise in Nigeria is a higher second degree or Masters and a subsequent 3rd higher degree or PhD. are tailored towards lectureship, research & a specialist field which in d grand scheme of things does not necessary equate to managing a company. The former that is specialist degree is narrow and parochial, when compared to experience which can be all encompassing that is d trend in d West and specifically in Britain where they tend to go for experience unlike America where certification is over emphasised and over flogged.
Nigeria has d right to choose d middle ground between these two extremities. That is each case should be determined by it's or her merit. On this occasion I would suffice to say 34 years service to a company is no beans. It would be inconceivable to think a man that has been in a particular industry for 34 years does not know what he is doing and that a man who manage to gain a certificate from one of d iv league school barley 10 or even 5 years ago is in a better stead to run this organisation thereby discounting all d rough & tumble of the man that has spent 34 years.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Not only in Nigeria, in Iran 2008, a minister faked an Oxford qualification;
It isn't a matter of he got experience, GEJ would have handed over to IBB if really experience matters. It is about honesty, he is handling the nation's wealth.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by fm7070: 8:41pm On Oct 31, 2011|
If you claims are genuine, write a petition to the appropriate quarters
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by KnowAll(m): 8:43pm On Oct 31, 2011|
You are missing d point, d top executives of d top 100 companies in Britain are run by people who has just first degrees in some instances no degree at all. Having said that this guy does not have to lie over one non existent Oxford degree, his experience is enough to see him through if anything.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 8:55pm On Oct 31, 2011|
What if he lied to get there?
He is not an entrepreneur, he didn't own the NNPC.
The fact is, if those qualifications were faked, how can the government trust him to become NNPC chief. They do not know, they should know, if nothing is done, them savvy, afterall, Nigeria is already in more big poo than the NNPC's boss qualification. Who knows how many people are out there holding big posts with fake certificates. Don't be surprised that even the easiest to confirm waec certificates are been faked, and nothing is done. I am all telling what I saw, and if I kept silent then I am falling in the traps too. Again, he might have used juju to silence people who will want to confirm his qualifications, it do happens, and it will keep happening, as long as we keep on keeping quite and silent over what we can solve by ourself. It is an all out war against corruption, fraud, it is a crusade, Nigerians must fight for the country, you are deceiving yourselves if you think someone from heaven can come down and rescue the country from the mess it is in now.
My words are reserved.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by member_479760: 9:01pm On Oct 31, 2011|
if the one he got from ABU is okay then what is the issue. afterall all degrees and certificates are useless to our development since we still need chincoman to train us how to push the button in our energy plant.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 9:31pm On Oct 31, 2011|
No, if guilty, then he must resign and face charges.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by harambe: 9:33pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Alibaba and the forty thieves! Wonder when all these would end. How did this man get this job?
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by emiye(m): 10:07pm On Oct 31, 2011|
This should be further probed, if he is found wanting, then he must face the music.
No sacred cow is allowed. All talks about 34, 100 years or whatever experience is a no-no. Those kind of talks are poo.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 10:29pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Exactly my friend! Big No!
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 10:45pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Oniwon - 34 years experience, BSc, Diploma?
Philip - 34 experience years, MEng, BSc
Yusuf - 31 years experience, PhD, MSc, BSc
Arokodare - 29 years experience, MBA, BSc
Babakusa - 23 years experience, MBA, BSc
Complete profiles > http://www.nnpcgroup.com/AboutNNPC/ExecutiveManagement.aspx
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by Francis-1: 10:45pm On Oct 31, 2011|
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 11:00pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Deleted from where?
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by Iolo(m): 11:35pm On Oct 31, 2011|
Can you open up the email you received confirming the non-existence of the degrees, take a screenshot and upload it here for all to see?
That would help cut a long story short.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by musiwa,,.: 12:12am On Nov 01, 2011|
i dont if this is a fraud, but over here they call certificate as diploma.
And havard may have cancelled the program. So call havard and find out.
Look having a PHD does not mean you have experience. Why do you think Prof Nnaji have not been able to solve the problem in Nigeria electricity. It is because he has PHD and lack experience to fix it. You see in Nigeria people with PHD do not have practical experience. I am speaking the truth. What have taken now over 50 years to fix by nigeria PHD in electricity, I can tell you the solution because i once worked in a network environment.
So prof nnaji experience have not be useful. Oniwon reason for a certificate course may be because he lived abroad. even many year ago there was no master degree in IT abroad. most of the book in IT were written by people without master degree in IT or software. Most early people in IT only have certificate or diploma in the 90's and 80's. you can ask or verify this. and over here. It is hard to get a job with a PHD, if you dont get in the university. they will tell you, you are over qualified. It may be his reason. That why most nigerian with PHD drive taxi abroad. they cant find work. The academic field is filled up. And they have loan to pay. it is not as easy as you people think in Nigeria.
So not to be turn down by employer as been too over qualified many job seekers go for certificate after graduating. Even over here many of the white people do the same. Many african who end up having PHD and cant find job blame white people, calling them racist. and all form of name. They assume that abroad is nigeria. where paper qualification is big the only way. Over here experience is Number 1.
Nobody will employ someone with no experience but many certificate over here over someone with experience. The first question they ask you. Do you have experience. ? if the other man have experience, with less certificate. He get the job. And african over here call it racism. put yourself in the shoe of the employer. If he employ you. he will pay more for your PHD, even while you are useless to his company. while the man with experience with little certificate can do something for the growth of his company.
So the white man would not employ you over experience. that why many nigerian with PHD run back home. not that abroad is totally bad. but they have loan to pay and no job.
who would want to live this picture for nigeria. except there is something wrong.
when you tell new nigerian the truth. they dont want to believe you.
i saw a wwhite lady some days ago with two degree , no job, and she is now going back getting a certificate that can make her own business. You have to understand , we are in a different society and their needs is different from nigeria. but nigerian assume it is the same. and they claim racism for it.
even if you have a PHD and got a job teaching in the university, will you feed your family with 6 hours a week teaching job. you will be lucky to get 6 hours. go and find out.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 12:31am On Nov 01, 2011|
Ok, next election don't tell us Jonathan holds a PhD therefore he qualifies as the thread keeps appearing above about Credentials. You have said it all.
Afterall, I am not claiming his qualifications are too low for the position he is holding, I am simply exposing the facts mentioned on the NNPC website that he studied at Harvard University and University of Oxford to obtain a Diploma in Business Management and a Diploma in Petroleum Management respectively.
The facts remain, explain where he got those qualifications, but not Oxford or Harvard as claimed. Simple.
I am not doing this because I want to paint one tribe with black paint, I am no fan of that. I am supporter of Buhari to the core, but cast doubt on him when he publicly deny that he is trying to Islamize Nigeria, which is untrue. As a Muslim, I know it is our duty to promote our religion, uphold our values, and what ever capacity we find ourselves. But he reject it because he is running for election, and he doesn't wan't to lose credibility. Anyway, I went off topic.
I will remain active in this investigation, as so far more itches have been found related to his work at NNPC and will be revealed soon.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by musiwa,,.: 12:44am On Nov 01, 2011|
did you call harvard university and ask. ? You see, why dont you first do the right thing. Havard university may have had the program before and cancel it. It is not nigeria, when a course have nobody wanting it. they cancel it. they may have cancelled the course.
this is why i dont associate so much with you nigerian, you are always looking for ways to pull people down. have you ever thought about building up people. rather than destroying them. think about this. life is to short for hate.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by auwal87(m): 1:00am On Nov 01, 2011|
Yes, bob answered, he said they do not have any Diploma in Business Management.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by eGuerrilla(m): 1:05am On Nov 01, 2011|
Augustine O. Oniwon's Experience
Source: linkedin profile --- http://www.linkedin.com/pub/augustine-o-oniwon/19/b0b/b8b
You see, much as I had thought he did attend College of Petroleum Studies, Oxford.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by musiwa,,.: 2:58am On Nov 01, 2011|
abroad is not like nigeria. You get paid by the number of hours you work. In nigeria they get paid even when they dont work. that why Airtel wanted to do to you people.
If you go for a PHD and the university gives you just 6 hours a week , how much is that. My brother. the most important thing in life apart from God is money. And you do what make you money and not to please anyone , Look I know a lady whose husband is a millionaire. And he does not have university education. He is white. He employ people with degree , And what he does is simple. What you nigerian who are too pround will never do for living.
You see pride kills nigerian. and nigerian love to show off. Ka re mi. Even when they dont have money, they pretend like they have and get into debt.
I will rather do what makes me money than PHD.
PHD does not pay bills, I have a friend who lived in the USA many years go. creditors nearly killed him after the PHD. So he ran away to europe. Do you know how much a first degree to PHD cost. That why micheal jackson doctor kill him. He had bill to pay. And micheal jackson said he will not perform. He called him. Come here old boy. What nonsense are you talking about. You will not do what. So he inject him with pain killer. You either perform or die.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by KnowAll(m): 6:54am On Nov 01, 2011|
The man is only guilty of glossing up or sexing up his cv which he shouldn't have done because his first degree and experience more than qualifies him for d job. Many Nigerians fall into this unnecessary fad of collecting various post graduate degrees. Becomerich is Right saying Phd does not mean Shiiiiit h over here abroad except you want to go into research or something no wonder Dr. Nnaji is struggling to give us light, a technology that is almost 200 years old.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by jason2010(m): 7:07am On Nov 01, 2011|
Poster, while you are at it, help us check out Orji Uzor Kalu, my former governor. He claims to have attended Harvard also. I seriously doubt it
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by mbulela: 9:40am On Nov 01, 2011|
@auwal87, just give it a break. you are doing a very poor job of this accusation.
Even if it was true, it makes no difference.NNPC is a cesspit of fraud and corruption.Whether this amn attended Said business school or bought a degree from that 419 set up in Oxford that sells degrees for a fee,it makes no difference.Whatever the man claims in his CV, it will not make NNPC any better.
jason2010:this is a more worthy cause to pursue.A harvard graduate that can barely speak English.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by hercules07: 11:37am On Nov 01, 2011|
auwal well done jare, do not mind those attacking you, a man in charge of our wealth is found to have lied on his CV and people are saying it does not matter?
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by eGuerrilla(m): 1:02pm On Nov 01, 2011|
If you go by the account he provided on linkedin, he actually does possess an engineering degree.
Now I really don't know for certain if a 1 year masters degree meets the criteria for chartered status, although I would wager a bet it did back in 1975
Are we looking at a case of blatant dishonesty here? I seriously doubt it.
Augustine O. Oniwon's Experience
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by Jon.Bee: 7:11pm On Nov 01, 2011|
I can understand your bitterness. How dare a man from the "Slavish Bastard-North" (remember banza Bokwai) be the head of NNPC.
A position that well befit a true son of Arewa's "Royal-North" (remember Hausa Bokwai)
If Barkindo leave the stage, it's only make sense to replace him with "born-to-rule" Danbaba.
The rest of us can see through your gimmicks. You idiots only cry marginalization of the north when a position is not being held by an Hausa man; and when that position is given to someone from the middlebelt region of the north, you go sour. Hypocrite northener!
If Austen Oniwon is guilty, let him face the law.
Until then, your campaign of calumny and slander ain't worth shyt unless you can authentically back it up.
Until then, up you poop with a scoop, you self serving tribalist.
|Re: NNPC Chief Is A Fraud - Fake Credential? by musiwa,,.: 1:27am On Nov 02, 2011|
Auwal87 , mike adenuga sell kerosene for a living. femi Otedola sell kerosene for a living, Dangote sell cement bag for a living. what does that tell you about making money.
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