Nairaland Forum

Dis Guy:

Lets just pray another group dont pop up to threaten to abandon Paypal if they allow Nigeria

Dis Guy:

Lets just pray another group dont pop up to threaten to abandon Paypal if they allow Nigeria

its not like they'll gain that much anyway including nigeria customers, they have much more to loose

Omo_Tier1:

I think we are getting a few things mixed up. To claim that Paypal are avoiding Nigeria just because of yahoo yahoo I believe is not the true picture of things after all, bigger e-payment facilities like Money gram, Western Union operate in Nigeria.

I still believe there are operational reasons other than Nigeria 419/yahoo yahoo boys been responsible for paypal's decision. I am also of the view that this will change once the cashless economy policy is fully developed. Afterall, compared to Nigeria, chinese e-scammers are by far more worse, large in number and continue to use paypal in thier scamming activities and paypal has not pull the plug yet on China the last time I checked!

justwise:

Bros lets not live in denial , there are no other operational reasons other than 419/yahoo yahoo, PayPal and their  customers have suffered alot in the hands of Nigerian criminals, they have to take that business decision to exclude  Nigeria.

[b][b]My former lecturer who is cyber crime consultant[/b][/b] carried out a research on eBay/Paypal fraud and 9 out of 15 suspects were Nigerians and he passed the finding to Paypal.

If they re-admit Nigeria then eBay may have to review their partnership with Payapl because many eBay customers will not want receive payment from Nigeria through Paypal

bandiejay:

No Wonderrrr ( nice Career )

Omo_Tier1:

I think we are getting a few things mixed up. To claim that Paypal are avoiding Nigeria just because of yahoo yahoo I believe is not the true picture of things after all, bigger e-payment facilities like Money gram, Western Union operate in Nigeria.

I still believe there are operational reasons other than Nigeria 419/yahoo yahoo boys been responsible for paypal's decision. I am also of the view that this will change once the cashless economy policy is fully developed. Afterall, compared to Nigeria, chinese e-scammers are by far more worse, large in number and continue to use paypal in thier scamming activities and paypal has not pull the plug yet on China the last time I checked!

Omo_Tier1:

I think we are getting a few things mixed up. To claim that Paypal are avoiding Nigeria just because of yahoo yahoo I believe is not the true picture of things after all, bigger e-payment facilities like Money gram, Western Union operate in Nigeria.

I still believe there are operational reasons other than Nigeria 419/yahoo yahoo boys been responsible for paypal's decision. I am also of the view that this will change once the cashless economy policy is fully developed. Afterall, compared to Nigeria, chinese e-scammers are by far more worse, large in number and continue to use paypal in thier scamming activities and paypal has not pull the plug yet on China the last time I checked!

justwise:

Bros lets not live in denial , there are no other operational reasons other than 419/yahoo yahoo, PayPal and their  customers have suffered alot in the hands of Nigerian criminals, they have to take that business decision to exclude  Nigeria.

My former lecturer who is cyber crime consultant carried out a research on eBay/Paypal fraud and 9 out of 15 suspects were Nigerians and he passed the finding to Paypal.

If they re-admit Nigeria then eBay may have to review their partnership with Payapl because many eBay customers will not want receive payment from Nigeria through Paypal

kanor:

This is a lazy and folish idea.
Who is paypal? can't nigerian internet entreprenuers creat thier own paypal clone?

Very funy. U what to use protest to achieve what?

Paypal is a pvt company. The try to minimize risk. The risk potential is higher than the returns they could get operating in nigeria.
By the way, how many nigerians use credit cards for online payment, to start with?

Create your own payment gateway, and paypal will be interested in collaborating with it.

Omo_Tier1:

While I may not have your former lecturer research findings to peruse it, I will like to say His findings is completely at variance with that of SOCA! As for your e-bay link, I think with the underground work of google in Nigeria already boozing in the business and government circles, do not be surprise at e-bay making a U-turn over night!

I still maintain my stand that there are far more cybe criminals in China compared to Nigeria, so why hasn't paypal pull the plug on China? I still think paypal may well feel e-trading in Nigeria has not saturated the Nigeria society to a point where it would require them to deploy the resources needed to do buisness in Nigeria. Looking at the population size, paypal may well require a full functional operational base in Nigeria if she is to succeed.

Again, has Nigeria got the required financial legal frame work in place to aid e-payment facilities of the type that paypal offer? I know e-transact, verves and a few others already operate in Nigeria but not in a global operational manner like paypal.

justwise:

Chinese govt got more grip on cyber security than Nigerian govt, China is a huge manufacturing country, second largest economy in the world and sell far more on ebay than Nigeria, the gain from China out weight the risk so its a sensible business decision to ''tolerate' China than Nigeria.

Paypal or Ebay can't trust Nigeria govt officials to be able to achieve a positive result in a case of fraud, lets face it, our reputation hasn't done us any favour.

Omo_Tier1:

Sorry you are muddling things up! I do not get this your 'reputation' thingy! By the way, e-payment fraud allegations are first handle through[b] internal mechanism of the governing financial services investigative apparatus[/b] of that country.

4real:

It's amazing how people think, the problem is not yahoo yahoo but like someone side no infasture on ground, they have loads of 419 guys here in the UK and they still operate, we need our government to put things in place, the Internet Market is a billion dollar Market one that would create thousands of jobs and make life better for loads of people

ogedanny:

we are not asking them to accept Nigerians immediately but to give us their own terms which may be more stringent than normal possible give them time to review. I have a good idea on what they can do to allow Nigerians, may not be direct access, we are reviewing our proposal with international endorsement. Just join the group and be up dates as we will need your signature and support to add weight to it. Thanks

justwise:

What exactly are you going on about there?


Yes our reputation in area of crime and corruption is not a secret, many foreign businesses will not be too quick in doing business with us, its a contributing factor.

Omo_Tier1:

And just to add, do you know even if you have your paypal account in UK, if you try to carry out any transaction using Nigeria based IP, your payment will be refered? Why is that?

Omo_Tier1:

Sorry mate, I think you are getting it all wrong! The last of the Global Security report still showed that high financial crimes and the likes (corruption another name) are more ripe in developed world than anywhere else.

The facts are there for all who care to see. Just because alot of sensationalism has gone into this Nigeria is corrupt/criminal does not mean we should pay blind eyes to what the REAL numbers are saying. Do not get me wrong, WE NEED TO FIGHT CORRUPTION AND CRIME IN NIGERIA TO A STAND STILL!

Not sure if you really aren't aware of how financial crimes investigation are carried out! Have you ever had a payment dispute on paypal? Did you hear paypal saying they are going to call the met Police to carry out  any investigation?

I still maintain that it is more to do with market environment, legal frame work than the yahoo yahoo excuses people keep banding about.

bandiejay:

^^ i can swear with anything there is no another reason than yahoo yahoo, it all started from bidpay while all traders from ebay became fraud victim by Nigerians in 2002.03/04 before they came up with idea of using paypal.  Now if paypal right is given for Nigerians lot of yahoo boys would make way in accessing some dating site, and i assure 100% that 95% of ebay Traders would CRY  and aside that yahoo yahoo boyz would collect there money with the help of paypal because Only a dummie would send payment to a company or business partner through western union. more so a  Paypal account bring trust to[b] VICTIM[/b] a.k.a MUGU who is on fire about to PAY