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Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Dreloaded(f): 7:10pm On Dec 04, 2007
lol @ several languages. Most of them can only speak pidgin or their own native tongue.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ademiife(m): 8:04am On Dec 05, 2007
dear pmdaboh,

it's an infinitesimal number of nigerians that are truly multi-lingual.
yeah, the country is rich in many beautiful languages; but, by my
estimation the common denomination is pidgin/broken english,
you can call it the green-card to every nook and cranny of nigeria!
maybe i exaggerate.

OlowoTee & diva_naija,

everyone speaks. you spoke. she's spoken. then, i 'spake' [or, is it spark!?].

olowotee,
i just discovered you served in lokoja. i did too. have a fulfilled time!
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Nobody: 4:34pm On Dec 05, 2007
@Pmdaboh. . .
True talk and Nice write-up. . .I enjoy your it each time I read through your post, Cos you write in such a captivating way. . . It truly shows you're a good Educator and mabybe a Mentor too  wink. Do keep it up.

@Ademife
I dey gbadun your English, It's fun reading through lol . .  grin. How are you doing? Hope greatly. . . .


i just discovered you served in lokoja. i did too. have a fulfilled time!
It's true that I served in Lokoja, I wish I could still go back there[i]. . . Serenity and stress-lessness! . . . [/i] compared to our beloved Lagos! I was in Platoon 8 then, and you??.

All the best.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ademiife(m): 4:44pm On Dec 05, 2007
olowo tee,

i was in platoon four, i finished my service, however, in 2004.
i served in kogi house of assembly; was the editor of confluence kopa.

lokoja, life there is slow and steady; no mind-bending traffic jams, etc
i did enjoy the 'agba naago', 'olodudu' of the igalas, and the 'wada yins'
of the ebiras, it was real fun yonder though i didn't have it all!

keep keeping on!
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Nobody: 4:51pm On Dec 05, 2007
2004?. . .that's cool. cool. I finished early this year. . .precisely January 31st. It was pretty fun too. . . atleast I enjoyed the ever timely "alawee" while it lasted. .

Don't tell me you work at Opebi . . .I work there . . .

Thanx. . . and All the Best in life too.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ademiife(m): 5:34pm On Dec 05, 2007
olowo tee,

sure i work in opebi!

you know it's a small world, i may be the one standing beside you
at the bus stop the next moment!

humans, like water, are everywhere,
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Nobody: 9:58am On Dec 06, 2007
oh, oh. . .what a small world indeed!
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ademiife(m): 11:28am On Dec 06, 2007
olowo tee,

i hope we won't end up turning thi thread to lokoja connection?
how are you doing this morning?
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Nobody: 4:40pm On Dec 06, 2007
ademiife:

olowo tee,

i hope we won't end up turning thi thread to lokoja connection? how are you doing this morning?

grin

that's true. . . .Shall we progress with the art of Speaking Ninglish grin. My day has been great! Thank you. Nice weekend. .
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ademiife(m): 4:53pm On Dec 06, 2007
olowo tee,

mine too.

ninglish? please lead the way!
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by biife: 12:36pm On Dec 15, 2007
bad english is a menace on nairaland!

i think those with rotten grammar and expressions should
be banned!

nah, should be helped to improve! yes,
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by biife: 2:08pm On Dec 15, 2007
has rubbermaid been banned?
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by topkin(m): 1:35pm On Dec 21, 2007
I must confess the way people construct their grammar, use and spell words on this site is terrible. Sometimes I wonder what type of institutions they attended and where they learnt their English! It devastates me to read some sentences atimes, it's really poor, very poor. sad

The spellcheck option is there to correct errors, people should put it more into efficient use. Maybe it will help.

make una no dey kill us for this site!!! angry
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by divanaija1: 11:16am On Dec 22, 2007
Oh puleazzzzzzzzzzzzzze *roll eyes*
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by Nobody: 8:59pm On Dec 22, 2007
@post

LMAO. . . .ohh lawdy grin grin
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by faketan(m): 9:11pm On Dec 22, 2007
Rubbermaid:

No. I can't teach anybody English - it's not my job. I save my skills for my professional presentations, thesis, and other communications.
Additionally, it looks like those who need to improve their language skills are not bothered enough to take advantage of classroom lessons, or dedicate themselves to self-help solutions.

[b]Ironically, we wonder why so many Nigerian graduates are treated like crap when they apply for jobs.  Prove this, prove that,  line up, take a test, touch the sky, hop like a toad, etc.[/b]Bad English is the reason! If many can graduate from Universities with such poor grammar then of course, all bets will be off in assessing the quality of their credentials.


I think you got it wrong there. The Chinese and even other Europeans commit the worst grammer crimes yet they are admitted and employed with ease.

Tell me the educational system is poor in Nigeria and I will agree with you. English is not our language and no one should crucify anybody for not speaking it well. Even the English speak and write nonsense. Again remember that not everybody that posts here is a graduate. What you see here is Nigeria. Not every Nigerian has good education.

Meanwhile thank you for having a good command of English though you shouldn't have bordered telling us.

Hope you also have a good command of your own language.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by faketan(m): 9:15pm On Dec 22, 2007
pmdaboh:

I am an African American woman married to a Nigerian man, and prayerfully he will soon join me.  When I first came on Nairaland and read the way many Nigerians were writing and expressing themselves, I really thought it was another language (broken down).  Until I read what Rubbermaid wrote today, I had no idea that was suppose to be English.

I agree with Rubbermaid that many Nigerians need to improve their written language, but I think "refusing to participate any further on Nairaland because of it" is pompous--to say the least.  Perhaps if Rubbermaid wrote consistently in correct grammar, then others will see the need for improvement and know how to correct their errors.

Being an educator, Business Education Teacher and Department Head of Technology, I admire the written and spoken word.  Being able to present yourself in a professional manner is of the utmost importance when applying for various positions, for you not only represent yourself, but you are also representing that company or organization.  However, I believe Rubbermaid was very harsh in the way she addressed the issue. 

My husband is Ijaw, and I am learning to speak and write in Ijaw.  As Americans, we should not think the "world is English, and if anyone wants to communicate with us, they better learn English".  I love learning Ijaw, and I know one Yoruba word (o da ro/goodnight).  I was VERY IMPRESSED with how many languages Nigerians know how to speak. We Americans learn English (by birth) and other languages that are incorpoated in our school curriculum.  But because we do not use those other languages learned in school on a regular basis (French, Spanish, Chinese, German and others), we lose the ability to speak them.  Yet Lagos, Nigeria, who has so many rich cultures dwelling together, is full of diverse languages.  This was one thing I LOVED about Lagos, Nigeria when I was there for two weeks.  I GREATLY ADMIRE the way Nigerians can speak in several languages, and it has birthed a desire in me to learn more languages too.

Yes, many Nigerians need to learn to write and punctuate English correctly, but "WE ALL NEED IMPROVING" in something in life.  No one is an exception to that--not even Rubbermaid.

Patricia

Be tuwapereh (tuwapereh/blessed in Ijaw)!


Talking of African Americans, do they speak English? Spare us pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by ogrebuga(m): 11:03pm On Dec 22, 2007
@post,
ROFLMFAO!!! cheesy
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by biife: 4:28pm On Dec 24, 2007
is rubbermaid still on this forum?
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by chiogo(f): 5:27pm On Dec 28, 2007
faketan:

Talking of African Americans, do they speak English? Spare us pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Thank you, i was just about to say the same thin'.

@topic, roflmao, kind@ true tho but if u understand the person's point, what's ur stress?? I, personally have given up that idea because believe it or not, it's not my problem.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by biife: 1:23pm On Dec 29, 2007
, really?
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by divanaija1: 2:30pm On Dec 29, 2007
chiogo:

if u understand the person's point, what's your stress?? I, personally have given up that idea because believe it or not, it's not my problem.

Well said (GBAM!)[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by seabiotics(m): 4:35am On Jan 01, 2008
Dear Seun - Nairaland Moderator,

This is a formal request asking that you ban me [quickly] from your forum. Please do so before the level of English Ninglish used here kills, maims, or adulterates my own command of proper English grammar. 

Following my recent visits,  I have left Nairaland wondering what in heaven's name is happening in Nigerian classrooms? What has happened to those days of yore when you were drilled until you mastered correct usage of English grammar by Primary three?!

For example,  I clicked on the discussion item at the top of the 'hot list' today and almost suffered a fatal blow when the poster started with "Have you ever sit, " I understand occasional 'slip-ups' however, the repeated instances on this forum has lead me to believe that these folks just never learned proper English,  or have not bothered to keep up by reading well written literature or revisiting early lessons from time to time (and as needed).

I am now officially fed-up with Ninglish and would like to turn-in my Nairaland membership before irreparable damage is done. I will now be  moving over to the Nigerian Village Square. Nigerians there seem to have better control of the language. Ironically, they seem to make better sense too.

Respectfully,

Rubbermaid.

PS - English is your friend. Blame those who made it our national language. Peace.


Rubbermaid,

I admire your erstwhile unrelenting resolve not to read posts on Nairaland replete with grammatical mistakes. You have made a good point. It is instructive to note, fleetingly, that the mastery of the English language and its proper application is without doubt, one of the hardest tasks to accomplish. In saying this, it does not mean it is improbable.

However, one salient point you conveniently ignored is the fact that people come to Nairaland for various reasons. Some are not professionals. The proper usage of English, therefore, is not of the utmost importance to some of them whilst communicating on this forum. Note, that I said on this forum, not necessarily in their day to day business.

Admittedly it is true that some people may suffer the occasional lapse of making typo graphical errors. Some are passively lazy to proof read what they have written. Some will blatantly, and unashamedly, spew grammatical scud missiles. However, it is important to understand that a poster's inability to construct sound English should not be used as a yardstick to judge their intellect or lack of it. A poster may not be able to express himself lucidly, but does that make that person devoid of imagination which is by far, more superior to the acquisition of knowledge?

Let me bring up a case in point. In his time, some people questioned Henry Ford's intelligence positing that whilst he may possess considerable specialised knowledge, he was in the main, ignorant. He responded by saying he could summon to his aid, with a push of the button, people who can answer any question he desires to ask concerning his business. Therefore, why should he clutter up his mind with general knowledge when he has people who can supply all the knowledge he requires.

The point being made here should not be lost on you. Yes, it is good to express oneself better when communicating in English. But do you know why the French and Chinese especially, favour their own mother tongue than English language when communicating at some formal occasions? Perhaps, it may also interest you to note that there are some white English forums where some of the written English will make you cringe with embarrassment. Mind you, the fact that they are sons of the soil is flagrantly inexcusable.

In passing, I would like you to prove openly why you think this statement,  "Have you ever sit"[b][/b]is grammatically incorrect. We all know it is wrongly worded. What I need you to point out, and justify, is what makes the grammatical syntax in the sentence to be out of place. Besides, with all our "grammar" and intellectuals, has it made our nation any better? I refer to those on ground and not in the Diaspora. At what expense have we even added value to our national heritage when some Nigerians can speak English fluently, but are shockingly deficient in their own mother tongue?
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by oldie(m): 12:32am On Jan 03, 2008
@poster
There is nothing like bad english
Should be poor english grin

I agree with some of your points, but you should not generalise
There is room for improvement!
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by akmosh: 12:57pm On Jan 03, 2008
Dear Rubbermaid,What a good observation you have made but a wrong approach to it.I personaally appreciate your observation,but as you know,this is a puplic forum comprising people from differnt backgrounds,enough care should be taken in the choice of words we make.This has nothing to do with your grammaticality,but politeness in communication.Niralanders,i would apologise on her behalf,please forgive her,"To err is human,To forgive is divine".One love!!!
New member.(no man is an island)"the more we live,the more we we learn"
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by seabiotics(m): 4:25pm On Jan 03, 2008
oldie:

@poster
There is nothing like bad english
Should be poor english grin

I agree with some of your points, but you should not generalise
There is room for improvement!

Actually, the poster is right in her usage of the phrase "bad english".
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by divanaija1: 3:19pm On Jan 04, 2008
GRAMMER TIME grin
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by oldie(m): 1:19am On Jan 05, 2008
diva_naija:

GRAMMER TIME grin

You just gave a good example why the poster complained embarassed
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by godana(f): 12:47am On Jan 07, 2008
Come one rubbermaid take it easy. Remember life is all about time and chance.
Fine u might be lucky to acquire all the degrees in the world but remember everyone is not the same.
English is the liqua franca in America but i can assure u americans speaks the worse english language u can ever imagine. Nigerians are celebrated worldwide because we always take the lead so please shove ur comment.
This is naira land and not america land and i presum everyone is welcomed.
I know people like u. I wouldn't be surprised if u turn out to be some geeky character or should i say perfectionist or let me put it right. I TOO KNOW.

I only just signed in to nairaland and i really must say that i have been impressed so far.
go to the motuary and grave yard, there u'll find educated people without breath.

All the grammer in the world no go put money for your pocket.

Try making an English person speak calabar language then u go no say karky no be leather.

As long as all nigerians are concerned English na borrowed language.

Period.

How dare u offer to leave Naira land bacause of oyibo language.

This is oyingbo market, we no bother if one person no show face trust me market na market people will always come buy.

Abeg go.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by dipo2much(m): 8:10pm On Jan 17, 2008
ABEG NO MIND HER JARE. HOW MANY OF THE SO-CALLED AMERIKKK SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH?. You may not believe this but many USA citizens speak worse english. But for some reasons,I would have showd u a mail I got from a US based friend(a US citizen of over 34 years). They dont speak QUEEN'S ENGLISH-thats supposed to be the standard english. So please dont say nairalanders speak bad english. What matters the most is you being able to undestand the message I am tryin to pass across.

But,to those of you who give this member the avenue to talk like this about us-nigerians,make una sef dey try speak better grammar. Listening to good orators would help improve your grammar
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by godana(f): 7:26pm On Jan 19, 2008
dipo2much:

ABEG NO MIND HER JARE. HOW MANY OF THE SO-CALLED AMERIKKK SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH?. You may not believe this but many USA citizens speak worse english. But for some reasons,I would have showd u a mail I got from a US based friend(a US citizen of over 34 years). They don't speak QUEEN'S ENGLISH-thats supposed to be the standard english. So please don't say nairalanders speak bad english. What matters the most is you being able to undestand the message I am tryin to pass across.

But,to those of you who give this member the avenue to talk like this about us-nigerians,make una sef dey try speak better grammar. Listening to good orators would help improve your grammar


true talk bro.
Re: Please Ban Me Before Nairalanders Kill Me With Their Ninglish by macgozy(m): 3:06pm On Feb 08, 2008
rubbermaid or claymaid whatever you think you are or the level of education you've attained in life that does not in any way give you an edge over others. Some in this thread started from the government school and you can attest the level of decay/rot in our educational system. If you do understand the message conveyed then I've communicated.

Secondly, why don't you go yank off the eyes/mouth of Chinese,Japanese/Germans who don't speak english but the level of development in those countries is worth emulating.

it's a free world, there is freedom of expression, use of language et al.

Igbo kwenu!Igbo kwenu!!kwezu nu!!!! I dey hail all of us wey no fit go skool after all inglish no be our language

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