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Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 5:25am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Population: 232 million (UN, 2010) Major languages: Indonesian, 300 regional languages Main exports: Oil and gas, plywood, textiles, rubber, palm oil Nigeria needs to follow Indonesias model. See how our muslim brothers are doing ? Same religous, ethnic, culture diffrences but looki how they advance. list of selected countries by GDP and GDP (nominal) per capita in 2008 Come home brothers. Bring that 419 money. Sell up your houses. Invest in Naija, Invest in Agriculture, Not just Lagos things are too concentrated in Lag imo. Stop paying 30% tax to UK and US govt. Evrything is here in Naija. Inshallah we will get there. lol. We need to stop looking west but EAST. I have even thought of setting up chineese schools in Naija where they will build the schools and teach chineese to our children. it is the language of the future Naija should jump on board o. More of us Western Educated brothers need to be in position of power, we are the future. We will decentralize and reduce BIG GOVT 2015 I cant wait [img]http://batamcyber.files./2009/05/sky-view-nagoya-batam1.jpg[/img] [img]http://aroelaidah.files./2009/12/makassar_from_air2.jpg[/img] [img]http://3.bp..com/_UhEBDc0ksck/S7b43qRoALI/AAAAAAAAAHo/AYU01dIE6_U/s1600/RANDY-SURABAYA+NIGHT-qpr.jpg[/img] http://img18.exs.cx/img18/4919/SupermallPakuwon2.jpg |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 5:45am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Nigeria and Indonesia in figures |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 5:48am On Dec 18, 2011 |
[size=14pt]How Indonesia overtook Nigeria http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11399866?print=true |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 5:58am On Dec 18, 2011 |
We had one of the worst power cut in Asia until the government elect someone that have a ball to do major changes in all line in our national electricity company, This includes developing new power plant, eradicated corruption, changing employees habit, cutting cost, maintenance efficiency, etc. Our electricity problems started since 1990's, I believe. Until at least end of last year, even Jakarta experienced couple of power cutting in just a week (this includes offices, factories, even presidential palace!! Although most of them have their own generator to produce power). Some of our cities esp. in Eastern part of our country got power cutting 5-6 hours a day!! That's how bad it is, Naijas problem is [size=14pt]TO MUCH TALKING NOT ENOUGH ACTION[/size]. Even in real life. All this swagga swagga nonsense lol. Humble yourself ni99as. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:15am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Take am easy oh!! Some Indonesian sandwich students just left my lab back home and their lamentations are apparent. Not all glitters in Indonesia
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:18am On Dec 18, 2011 |
slums in indonesia
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:21am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 6:24am On Dec 18, 2011 |
@ Nchara Ofc some still in poverty but : Population below poverty line they have 60 million + more people as well, in a smaller land area lol. they try ooo. And those pics come from several cities not just a few. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:39am On Dec 18, 2011 |
They are just slightly better off than us but we are in the same general level of poverty How many of those 232 M or so people live above poverty level in REALITY? My students told me Indonesians export the good products and the citizens mostly eat the bad, spoiled ones due to poverty I'd rather go by that first-hand knowledge than what some govt data says. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 6:42am On Dec 18, 2011 |
@Nchara slightly? lmao. See thier MW of electricty coming in? I just posted the figure. 70% naija under poverty 17% in Indonesia no comparison. Their economy is more diversified than ours as well. Better airports. Infrastructure etc etc. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:46am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Nadanbata: Yes they have better infrastructure but poverty is biting there as in Nigeria. I like to gauge these things by what people on the ground say. Our lack of infrastructure is not due to poverty but due to corruption and inefficiency |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 6:51am On Dec 18, 2011 |
@Nchara ofc but the numbers say Naijas is far worse o. And we have less people to manage o, Anyway you wouldnt look at them as role model? |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:52am On Dec 18, 2011 |
http://www.economist.com/node/7925064 I see them just as better off but no, not as role models. Am sorry. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nchara: 6:52am On Dec 18, 2011 |
Nigeria's poverty is clearly self-induced. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 9:05am On Dec 18, 2011 |
@ Nchara small small steps now. Reach indonesia level generating at least 30k MW then move on o |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Yeske2(m): 3:38pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
Let's help fight corruption and everything would fall into place because that is the basis of our problem |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Nadanbata: 11:24pm On Dec 18, 2011 |
@ Yeske even with corruption look how Indonesia has left Naija lol. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 9:37am On Sep 25, 2012 |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 4:52am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Nchara: http://www.economist.com/node/7925064 Indonesia already no 4 Globally in FDI and slips Brazil http://www.marketwatch.com/story/brazil-slips-in-foreign-direct-investment-rankings-2012-07-05-164852234 July 5, 2012, 4:23 p.m. EDT Brazil slips in foreign-direct-investment rankings SAO PAULO--Brazil's attractiveness as a top destination for foreign-direct investment has been eclipsed by that of Indonesia, the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development said Thursday in an annual report. Brazil is seen as the world's No. 5 destination for FDI in the next two years, the Unctad said, citing survey responses by 174 companies. Last year, the South American nation ranked No. 4. The top three "prospective host economies" for FDI were unchanged this year from 2011, with China holding the No. 1 spot, followed by the U.S. and India. Indonesia moved up two notches in the rankings to surpass Brazil at the No. 4 spot. Brazil's large population and relatively newfound economic stability have made it a favorite destination for foreign investors in recent years as FDI rose to nearly $67 billion in 2011 from $19 billion in 2006, the Unctad said. Expanding consumer markets, economic growth and abundant natural resources have contributed to fast growth in South America's FDI, 55% of which went to Brazil last year. But since the global economic crisis in 2008-09, state industrial policies have become increasingly relevant in Brazil and Argentina. "Both countries want their local industries to capitalize on their domestic consumption boom and aim to establish a homegrown high-technology industry that will help them diversify their economies," the Unctad said, noting an effort to protect domestic manufacturers from cheaper imports. While that "does not seem to be deterring FDI flows," the Unctad said industrial policies will likely have an impact nonetheless. "FDI policy is likely to depend increasingly on the industry in question and the role the governments want to assign to FDI," the organization said. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 5:17am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Nchara: They are just slightly better off than us but we are in the same general level of poverty this is something from CNBC..., lot's interisting issue there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v6AN23p30A&feature=related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OfCDlgQfqI |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 9:43am On Nov 29, 2012 |
hey i found this news http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-MAIVCT0UQVI901-03O75AJUAFRQOFGT6FCDVTK8VS Indonesia GDP May Overtake Germany by 2030, McKinsey Says Shamim AdamSep 18, 2012 2:16 am ET (Updates with Standard Chartered prediction in seventh paragraph.) Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia may surpass Germany and the U.K. by 2030 to be the world’s seventh-largest economy, generating $1.8 trillion in annual sales for agriculture, consumer and energy companies by that year, McKinsey & Co. said. The country may add 90 million people to its “consuming class” in that period, the most after China and India, the consulting company said in a report today. Energy demand may triple from current levels, convenience stores will lead a “revolution” in retail, and the largest business opportunities will be for financial-service providers, it said. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is increasing spending on roads, seaports and airports as he woos investment to spur Southeast Asia’s largest economy. More than a decade after the Asian financial crisis forced the nation to seek an International Monetary Fund bailout, Fitch Ratings and Moody’s Investors Service have raised Indonesia to investment grade and the country’s growth is among the fastest in the Group of 20. “Indonesia is in the throes of a rapid transformation,” McKinsey said. “The Indonesian economy is larger, more stable, and more advanced than many companies and investors around the world realize.” Indonesia is currently the world’s 16th-largest economy, with gross domestic product of about $846 billion last year, according to IMF data. That may rise to $1.8 trillion in 2017, compared with Germany’s $3.9 trillion economy and U.K. GDP of $3.2 trillion in the same period, IMF data shows. The McKinsey report didn’t give GDP projections for 2030. Commodity Exporter Only China, the U.S., India, Japan, Brazil and Russia will be bigger than Indonesia by 2030, McKinsey said. Indonesia’s growth potential has spurred companies including Toyota Motor Corp. to boost investments in the country and prompted Standard Chartered Plc to predict the nation will join China and India as the engine of the third global “super- cycle.” The country may be among the top six of the world’s largest economies by 2030, Standard Chartered said in an October 2011 report. The bank defines a super-cycle as a period of historically high global growth lasting a generation or more, driven in part by increasing trade, high rates of investment, urbanization and technological innovation. Indonesia isn’t “a typical Asian manufacturing exporter driven by its growing workforce or a commodity exporter driven by its rich endowments of natural resources,” McKinsey said. “The reality is that, to a large extent, it is domestic consumption rather than exports, and services rather than manufacturing or resources, which are propelling growth.” Lowest Volatility Investors are now demanding lower premiums to hold Indonesian debt. The country will offer its lowest-ever coupon for dollar-denominated bonds when it sells global sukuk as soon as next month, according to PT Manulife Asset Management Indonesia and PT BNI Asset Management. The cost to protect Indonesian bonds from default dropped to the least since May 2011 on Sept. 14, and it’s now more expensive to insure Israeli and South African debt, both ranked at least three levels higher than Indonesia by Moody’s. “Over the past decade Indonesia has had the lowest volatility in economic growth of any OECD or BRIC economy, while government debt has fallen by 70 percent and is now lower than in the majority of the OECD economies,” McKinsey said, referring to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development and the group of emerging economies that includes Brazil, Russia, India and China. Consuming Class Annual growth of 5 percent to 6 percent in Indonesia will add 90 million people to the “consuming class,” which is defined as those with yearly net incomes of more than $3,600 at 2005 purchasing power parity, McKinsey said. An expansion of 7 percent a year, as targeted by the Indonesian government, would increase those ranks to 170 million people from 45 million in 2010, it said. “This growth in Indonesia’s consuming class is stronger than in any economy of the world apart from China and India, a signal to international businesses and investors of considerable new opportunities,” McKinsey said. “But surging demand for a range of products and services will inevitably strain Indonesia’s natural and capital resources.” Indonesia’s GDP rose 6.37 percent in the three months through June from a year earlier, supported by investment and consumption. The central bank forecasts growth of about 6.1 percent to 6.5 percent this year, and about 6.3 percent to 6.7 percent in 2013. Productivity Challenge The country’s challenges include boosting productivity to achieve a 7 percent rate of expansion, uneven distribution of growth across the archipelago, and infrastructure and resources that cannot keep pace with rising domestic consumption, according to the McKinsey report. About 71 percent of the population, estimated to rise to 280 million by 2030 from 240 million now, will live in urban areas, from 53 percent currently, McKinsey said. It estimates consumer spending in Indonesia’s urban areas will rise 7.7 percent a year to become a $1.1 trillion “business opportunity” by 2030. Revenue from agricultural and fisheries industries may rise 6 percent annually to reach $450 billion, while the energy market may be worth $270 billion in that period, it said. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by tpia1: 9:53am On Nov 29, 2012 |
is the poster nigerian? |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 6:08am On Oct 24, 2013 |
APEC Country Leaders meeting & APEC CEO SUmmit 2013 held in Bali - Indonesia , attended by 21 country member , all the leaders from russia , China , USA , Japan , Korea , Australia , indonesia , singapore , taiwan etc..etc come for the meeting with almost 1000 captain of industry around the world to make discussion with them , ECOWAS should improove and build connectivity to cooperate with other region like this ASIA - PACIFIC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22KKk334yjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgfigXFZVt4
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 8:43am On Oct 24, 2013 |
this is apec forum summit for CEO's from all over the worlds , lots of economic discussion over there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vql3IrDtaT8 |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 12:18pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
this is Garuda Indonesia...., state airways own by indonesi goverment , have a 5 star skytraxx awarded as best Top 10 airline ( number 8 ) in the world ! , event goverment company can be very professional ...and make money...........here's the link http://www.worldairlineawards.com/awards_2013/airline2013_top20.htm and here's garuda indonesia advertisement as Global official partner Liverpool FC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhsVGEgRQmY#aid=P-joL3j7y7w |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 12:31pm On Nov 04, 2013 |
Indonesia's build a world class Airport in every of it's province capital city ( here in naija like ibadan, port harcourt etc ) , to attrack more investment in the country This is airport at Bali resort island of Indonesia....amazing......for a resort island airport
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 12:57pm On Nov 04, 2013 |
Naija can build this if gov use the money properly , Medan City airport , this airport also have special rail link to connect the airport to city center
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 1:21pm On Nov 04, 2013 |
Indonesia overhaul every airport on its Provincial capital te be standarised as world class airport , there's alot more like Makassar aiport , Surabaya airport etc...with the same standart Balikpapan city airport
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 6:58am On Nov 11, 2013 |
indonesia now industrialized the country while still maintain the agriculture & keep it important ,the goverment made some strategic industries to develop by them , now......even USA maintain their agriculture ....here's i post some of indonesian state company, started with this one state company who produce train , EMU ( electric train ) , Locomotive including Monorail made by indonesian & they already export it to singapore , malaysia , bangladesh monorail made by indonesia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfs22fAo0Q
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 7:24am On Nov 11, 2013 |
This is indonesia state company who produce aeroplane , malaysia , thailand , brunai phillipine ,pakistan even south korea buy indonesian aeroplane ...burkina faso is one of africa country buy indonesia aeroplane...., indonesia aerospace programme begin in 1960's when indonesia president 1st president send alot of student to study aboard to europe to learn how to make aeroplane ( FYI in 1960 indonesia maybe is the poorest nation on earth ) http://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/ South Korea & indonesia aerospace industry now join together to produce fighter combat plane called KFX - KFI , now in developing stage , by 2020 will be mass produce http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2011/07/14/asias-next-fighter-project/
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Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Abagworo(m): 7:46am On Nov 11, 2013 |
Whoever wrote this is lying against Nigeria. Our percentage poverty is not 70% as everything has proven that calculation to be wrong. We can only say there is high cost of living in Nigeria resulting from dependence on imported consumer products. Our cities are developing rapidly but we deliberately like to show the bad side even though we have a lot of beautiful cities. |
Re: Indonesia Naijas Elder Brother by Ariesby: 7:58am On Nov 11, 2013 |
indonesia govt also can produce ship , made for both commercial & millitary and already exported to some country , eventhough it's state company , but the gov let professional to manage it .. THATS THE KEY , Proffesional must RUN THE COMPANY..., the good this is while indonesia economy is booming , some of indigious industry is ready to fullfill it's need , like train , propeller aeroplane , ship even also millitary product http://www.pal.co.id/v5/index.php https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyC4suRRTVQ indonesia also have millitary product ,like APV , Medium Tank , Gun etc..... here MLRS Rocket test - made by indonesia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwK3dM0TZaQ so basically , the more diversed the economy , the better it is....
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