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Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by igbo2011(m): 7:10am On Dec 28, 2011
Onlytruth:

My friend permit me to tell you pointblank that YOU ARE NOT IGBO. hehe grin

We have seen your type here before. Every Igbo adult knows our history in Nigeria.

Why are some of you so shameless? You come here to accuse innocent foreign powers of crimes you commit on fellow Africans. undecided
How are you going to tell me that I am not Igbo? You don't even know me.
I don't commit crimes on fellow Africans, I am a pan-afrianist. I support other African countries by doing tourism there and buying their products. I support intra African trade. Africa has all the resources but we export raw materials and import finished goods. This cycle must stop. We must add value to our raw materials.

Nadanbata:

@ Igbo2011

Dont blame them o. Its hard to see, but when you do it clicks. These people dont even care for their own citizens oo no country of allegiance nothing 50 million Americans are on "FOOD STAMPS".
If it wasn't for America enslaving all these countries around the world economically then they wouldn't be able to afford food stamps for their citizens. But America is an elitist country. I study sociology on my spare time and the system keeps poor people poor so they can work for the rich. That is why poor areas have the worst schools in America. They don't want too many people getting university degrees, this is why school fees are going up.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Nadanbata: 7:11am On Dec 28, 2011
isale_gan2:


Two things that is unresolved for me:
1) The Boko boys always said their fight was with the government, so why would they detonate bombs at churches?  The last big one they claimed, was at the UN.  
2) I have not seen conclusive evidence where a Boko spokesperson took credit for the the bomb at the churches.  The newspapers were talking in generalities, as far as I could tell.  Also, faster than you can say Boko what? the coverage was on fast track on CNN - proclaiming that a Nigerian Al Qaeda outfit is terrorising the country.  It's as if they have a script from the state department.


1) Having heard of divide and conquer? If so thats whats going on Making it a Islam v Christian thing. We have seen it time and time again for 100s of years.

2) T[b]here is no evidence if BBC/CNN says so its fact, they provide zero to know evidence as always[/b]. As soon as you hear "AL-Aqaeda" aka "The - CIA Database" Know that the West is involved with an agenda. simple rule bro  cool cool cool. And by West I dont mean the people living there. The People at the top have no allegiance to any one country nor do they care about the people only do enough to keep everyone in line.  cool cool cool
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Onlytruth(m): 7:18am On Dec 28, 2011
@igbo2011

Here is a little Pan African news for your enjoyment.

[size=14pt]Family escapes Kano riots, loses 4 daughters in Madalla blast [/size]

• Father, 58, says he can’t find their corpses
From UBONG UKPONG, Abuja
Wednesday, December 28 , 2011

•Emmanuel Obiukwu

Abuja-based businessman, Sir Emmanuel Obiukwu, lost four of his daughters in the Christmas Day bomb blast at the Saint Theresa’s Catholic Church, Madalla, Niger state. The man fled with his family from Kano State and settled at Madalla, following the insurgence in that state, where they almost died 20 years later.

Sir Obiukwu, 58, was sighted by Daily Sun at the National Hospital, Abuja, looking despondent and shattered as he went up and down in the hospital, and finally stopped at a point where his kinsmen, friends and church members, who had come to sympathize with him were gathered.
Daily Sun, sought to know why the crowd was gathered and discovered that it was about the calamity that had befallen Obiukwu’s family.

Obiukwu, who was very emotional lamented that since the incident occurred on Sunday, they had to no avail, gone from one hospital to the other, searching for the corpses of his daughters after ensuring the admission of their mother and sister, who survived the dastardly act. 

Chioma Obiukwu, the most senior daughter and a University final year student, Ifeoma and Uchenna Obiukwu, twins and Chidimma Obiukwu, he believed, had all perished beyond recognition since he said that he watched them standing along the road right at the spot where the blast occurred, as they tried to cross over to enter the car after the mass.
“Since I left Kano because of the riot, I have not been happy but I said, this is a free land these Hausa people cannot make much problem because they like to kill any how, but here is a unity place, no problem it is safe. As I left Kano that was what I had on my mind, but this is really from fry pan to fire.

“We went for 6 O’clock mass at St. Theresa’s Catholic Church in Madalla. The mass dismissed at about 8.30 to 9 O’clock, so families were heading for home.
People were at the road there directing movement; I was in front of the church. Suddenly, by then my children and my wife had come, I gave them car key to go and board the car across the road. I told them to cross over to the car so that I could wear-off my church warden dress and go to drop them before I come back to officiate during the 10:00am mass.

“So as they were going, they wanted to cross the road and while I was coming out, I heard a thunderous sound and since I did not know where the sound was coming from, I ran in and hid myself behind one of the pillars. See dust everywhere, but as soon as I recovered from the shock because I was not hurt, I looked out and saw fire, see all those cars coming out from the church were just burning. My children had not crossed the road. So they were there when that bomb blasted. Four of them, I did not see them up till now.

“After admitting my wife and second daughter here on Sunday so that we know their condition before we start looking for the other ones, after their admission, we started going round the whole hospitals in Abuja, after that back to General hospital in Suleija, we could not see any person. So, I told my people, all the corpse we saw, they are beyond recognition, even the ones here, (National Hospital) because majority are here and Gwagwalada, they are beyond recognition.
“So I went there checking one by one, people I saw, I couldn’t recognize them, that is how we have been going round and round, no one up till now. It was that place they stood to cross the road that the incident happened, my car was blasted, if you go there, it is still there, so that was how I confirmed that they might have been burnt beyond recognition.

“We have not been able to recognize anyone that even resembled any of my daughters. The one we wanted to recognize at State House clinic, that had the size of my daughter, they were two corpses inside, they said the owners had already identified them because their mother and the other one are inside the other apartment of the mortuary. Those two were in the second apartment. They said that their owners had already come to identify them, because all of them were evacuated from one car, they got burnt inside the car as family. So that was how we left that place,”
Asked if he had given up the hope on their survival since their corpses were not yet identified, he said, nothing was impossible with God “I believe that they are gone because of the incident there, that was my belief but I still have hope. If God by miracle raises them from anywhere, I will accept, but for me as a human being, I saw the incident there, I doubt. They are gone.

Obiukwu is bitter about the loss and pains inflicted on him and his family, not because he was questioning the powers of God over death and life, but because the bomb blasts had become a recurrent issue in the country and he had lost his daughters because nothing was done to stop the bombings.
“President Jonathan should do something better because this is not the first, not the second, not the third. I am sure that more are coming. Jonathan should wake up and know what to do, that is my candid appeal to him. He should wake up,” he said.
Expressing joy that his entire family did not perish in the inferno, the Awka-Etiti, Idemili South, Anambra State man, said that his wife’s health was fast improving, believing God also for the other daughter, Chiamaka. He is also thankful to God that he and his son were not hurt, considering the fact that some families may have lost everyone to the same or a related blast.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/dec/28/national-28-12-2011-004.html
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Nadanbata: 7:20am On Dec 28, 2011
igbo2011:


If it wasn't for America enslaving all these countries around the world economically then they wouldn't be able to afford food stamps for their citizens. But America is an elitist country. I study sociology on my spare time and the system keeps poor people poor so they can work for the rich. That is why poor areas have the worst schools in America. They don't want too many people getting university degrees, this is why school fees are going up.

Yep Miltary center = Washington DC. Fianacial centre = City of London.

If people knew the magic tricks going on with all this deravitives in finance you would be suprised. Create Dollars from nothing then give to Africans/Asians who provide the real wealth aka 'minerals oil etc'. If something fails taxpayers will ALWAYS back it up.  cool cool

Yes system keeps people poor, the schools dont teach real crtical thinking which is what is why people just follow instead of lead resulting in the mess we are in now.  cool cool . Fees are ridculous you will never pay it off in America for mass immigration has resulted in lower wages and more profits for Cooperations.

Culture + Values has also been systematically destroyed and replaced with mateiralsim that encourages competition even if it means hurting others. Materialsim will never ever make you happy, are you suprised why Africans tend to be the happiest in the world? I mean can you imagine in America some wont even know their neigbours?  cheesy cheesy
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Nobody: 7:43am On Dec 28, 2011
Onlytruth:

BTW I don't care about some story in Liberia. I only care about NIGERIA, a land of mass murderers.

My friend, stop jumping around the board like a pregnant toad displaying your infinite ignorance. One minute (here and in other threads) you claimed Muslims have been killing Christians all over the African continent for trillions of years, the moment you were shown that Christian on Christian violence has been more prevalent, You change gear sharp sharp. Nna mehn, relax, its not that serious. Try to hate less.

Reading from your posts, you are just a very hateful and divisive character. Try to shed some of the bitterness in your heart then you'll be able to see things clearly.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Onlytruth(m): 7:57am On Dec 28, 2011
kingoflag:

My friend, stop jumping around the board like a pregnant toad displaying your infinite ignorance. One minute (here and in other threads) you claimed  Muslims have been killing Christians all over the African continent for trillions of years, the moment you were shown that Christian on Christian violence has been more prevalent, You change gear sharp sharp. Nna mehn, relax, its not that serious. Try to hate less.

Reading from your posts, you are just a very hateful and divisive character. Try to shed some of the bitterness in your heart then you'll be able to see things clearly.

I would ignore your insult and go to the point.  cool

FACT #1:
My region, Eastern Nigeria has seen the least of sectional violence targeting foreigners in our midst compared with other regions in Nigeria since the beginning of the Nigerian state. Even when we were being killed in other regions in 1966, we shepherded other Nigerians home. 

FACT #2:

Eastern Nigerians have historically been killed by other Nigerians for one excuse of another: failed coup, Denmark cartoon, just take your pick. They are currently dying in Northern Nigeria.

And you dare call me hateful?
Don't you sound as obtuse as other conspiracy theorists here?    cool
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Nobody: 8:36am On Dec 28, 2011
Onlytruth:

I would ignore your insult and go to the point.  cool

FACT #1:
My region, Eastern Nigeria has seen the least of sectional violence targeting foreigners in our midst compared with other regions in Nigeria since the beginning of the Nigerian state. Even when we were being killed in other regions in 1966, we shepherded other Nigerians home. 

FACT #2:

Eastern Nigerians have historically been killed by other Nigerians for one excuse of another: failed coup, Denmark cartoon, just take your pick. They are currently dying in Northern Nigeria.

And you dare call me hateful?
Don't you sound as obtuse as other conspiracy theorists here?    cool


My apologies if you feel insulted. But, you would have to agree that (from reading your posts) you do not come across as the most likable character.  Your posts reek of hate and distortions of history.

Like yourself, I believe that Nigeria should be divided because this experiment of a United Nation is clearly not working, AND WILL NEVER WORK. I also believe that since the Igbos clearly want their own separate state then they should be allowed to go. But, I do not believe in spreading unnecessary hatred or inciting avoidable chaos-- that is my problem with your likes. We sit in foreign lands (whether we were born here or not, we still know where "home" really is) and advocate for violence, forgetting that the ones that'll suffer the most are the poor people, which, unfortunately, makes up a scarily large percentage of the Nigerian population.

This is a war between the Rich and the Poor; Good v Evil. Yet, some people want to instigate by instilling tribalism and religious bigotry into every single convo. People should see this for what it really is :A WAR BETWEEN THE EXTREMELY GREEDY POLITICIANS RULING NIGERIA TODAY. they are trying to drag the poor, hapless citizenry into their battle---- and they are succeeding---- because some people just have an innate hatred for anyone else that doesn't speak their language or worship their God. . . . . Religions that are foreign to us are now being used as fodder for the canons with which we are being asked to destroy ourselves. That is my problem with you.

May God guide Nigeria and the innocent people on the ground. Amen.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Daffydoc: 9:02am On Dec 28, 2011
THIS AN ARTICLE I FOUND , I couldn't find d link when I checked back. So I just pasted d wholething but trust me d source is genuine. It's kinda long,pls just be patient and read on. Monday, November 14th, 2011 | Posted by Gordon Duff NIGERIA: TARGETED FOR DESTRUCTION. Those Who Have Ears to Hear By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor I won’t write about Nigeria as a journalist. I am known in Nigeria as a national security specialist with decades of experience there. I have close personal friends at the highest levels of government and only write these few words out of deep concern. For those reading the news about Africa, both of you, Nigeria is under terrorist attack and preparing military operations against a group called Boko Haram, an Islamic group from the North, more accurately centered in Niger, a nation to the north, a cesspool of international intrigue. From Veterans Today’s London correspondent, a specialist on African affairs: The article was well written and thoroughly researched although it didn’t go far enough in identifying dealing with the greed of certain establishment figures that may directly or indirectly be involved in some of the atrocities committed by Boko Haram. 1. The security of the presidency and the entire nation has been greatly compromised by the activities of certain individuals very close to the presidency. 2. It is common knowledge that the president of Nigeria is not protected at all and you can get at him at any time in or out of his residence. 3. The security around him is a joke to say the least, contrary to the views of certain individuals around the president. 4. The issues of government by settlement which had long plagued Nigeria are the orders of the day now where certain individuals are asking for colossal sums of money from certain security consultants to provide training and security equipment to the government. 5. One individual in particular has been known to collect huge sums of money from these outfits currently parading themselves as security consultants in Abuja 6. The level of cover and protection given the president and his family is simply laughable and nonexistent Why has the country been compromised It is widely known that certain foreign elements are providing security to the president and providing his current security details. What a joke, you might say. These same foreign elements are the same who have sold outdated equipment to the government and are going around Abuja installing CCTV and bomb detection equipment around the capitol, technology decades old. Huge sums of money have changed hands for second rate equipment The government pays for a Rolls Royce car but gets a VW Beetle instead!! Why is there so much fear and apprehension among Nigerians that the government can no longer protect its citizens? Two Nigerian Policemen Caught Bringing In Truckload of Bombs What are the costs expended so far on security equipment and the so called security consultants? Why have certain individuals collected bribe money to award these security contracts at over inflated figures? Now, this is one example of several of how corruption is endemic and goes to the heart of government. You may wonder who stands to benefit from these contracts at the expense of the security of the president, the presidency and the nation. The answers to these questions lies within the presidency itself because of the acts of these individuals in the last few weeks. There are no real interests to control the activities of Boko Haram because of the vested interests of certain foreign governments in collusion with their agents in the present administration and the country. To some in government, this is another tool to control certain individuals. Most Nigerians are cowards, anyway. Kill a few “Nigerians,” “Christians” and make it look like christ6ianity against Islam to provoke a reaction from Nigerians. If you get no reaction, kill a few more or go after prime targets to grab headlines. Again, you may ask yourself, who stands to gain when there are terror scares in the country? Nigerians are highly intelligent and resourceful people and can put an immediate end to all of these happenings when their own status is on the line and their livelihood is at stake or threatened. Boko Haram - No Shortage of Unemployed Young Men Nigeria has not gotten to that point yet but may soon reach the point of no return. Sources within the Intel community have confirmed that Boko Haram is getting Intel assistance from senior Nigerian intelligence officials. To these officials, this is a means to an end. The danger here is that a monster has been created which sooner or later may go out of control of their political masters. Certain people are benefiting financially from the current security situation in the country, from inflated security contracts. One such individual from within the presidency recently placed orders from a North American and Middle East country located near Tel Aviv. What is the cost of a Nigerian life (Mr.) and how much is it worth to you sir? This is the public version of things anyway. However, outside forces are at play, concerns “from afar” best described in a fictional context. H. G. Wells described it best in his science fiction novel, War of the Worlds. “No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter… It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days…Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth century came the great disillusionment.” Thus, fiction again becomes reality, not an enemy from space but one of terrestrial origin, unnamed but recognized by all who see the lands laid waste. In Nigeria, Terrorism is the Rough Version This organization, call it “globalist” if you want, began orchestrating war in Yemen a bit ago after failing to set war against Iran into motion through incidents in Bahrain and the Persian Gulf. The “Al Qaeda franchise” in Yemen represents an “understanding” between the current government, the CIA and Mossad to create a simulated terrorist environment as “deception and cover” for a series of other activities in the region. There is now, nor has there ever been an organized “pan-Islamic” terrorist presence in Yemen though one has been “simulated” through misleading reports, “false flag” terror and a theatre of “counter-terrorist” activities, drone attacks and such, for no purpose other than to provide a base of operations for a global criminal enterprise. What we are seeing now in Nigeria is part of the same strategy, one that has included attacks on a physical scale, currency manipulation and now a staged move against Africa, which will be combined with attempts to exploit the vulnerabilities of the Arab Spring, new players, new governments and new greed. Key Nigerians ripe for bribery are making this possible. They are aware they are bringing about the destruction of their own nation, they simply don’t care. The attitude there is “every man for himself.” Another way of describing those currently in power, including and especially officials in counter-terrorism and security is “rats abandoning a sinking ship.” In all fairness, the U.S. has a similar elitist clique of politicians, special interest multi- nationals, some of whom have their own intelligence resources that rival most countries. The terror group, Boko Haram, is real but in its current formation, it is a proxy of outside powers who plan to Balkanize Nigeria, simply another domino to fall as have so many others. As with any group seeking redress, Boko Haram has been hijacked and is now being directed from within, from without as is the Nigerian government that will be fighting it. What is playing out, though all are ready to “go through the motions” otherwise, is far more about drugs than anything else. The Nigerians don’t yet know this or those hands that are out would be more aggressive. Nigeria, a great playing field, largest in Africa, is the southern flank of an operation that is much more than simply stolen oil revenue and inscrutable games about gas pipelines that never come online. Drugs are perfection. If you produce narcotics, you control the land, if you transit narcotics, you control the authorities, if you sell narcotics, you control the courts, the police and, of course, the government itself. Arms and oil count, money is still worth counterfeiting, oil worth stealing but all this is so “yesterday.” The real world struggle today is narco-driven, fought from the Kyber Pass to the Mexico- Arizona border and all lands in between. Nigerians who think “tribal” or “ethnic” will die “regional” and “global,” perhaps by the millions. This is all little but theatre. The US bought a ticket to a play staged in Afghanistan and has found themselves unable to find the exit. This one will be quieter as this is Africa, it will be black people killing black people. Few will notice, fewer will care. Those with a stake notice, they care, but their agenda has no room for human life. Nigeria is a tinderbox beyond imagination. Decades old hatreds and fears are closer to the surface here than even in the Balkans. This is a very dangerous game some have chosen to begin. Were they available, and who is to say they aren’t, Nigerians would gleefully use nuclear weapons to settle domestic differences. Nigeria, is, in itself, a construct that never should have existed. The North is Muslim, the South is Christian, each side having nearly 100 million people and neither half is united in any way. Nigeria is a ripe plum for those who recognize such things and recognizing such things is how predators have come to dominate world affairs. The history after colonial occupation is one of military dictatorship and corruption at levels unimaginable. Nigeria is Africa, the most populace country, the most oil and gas wealth, the greatest economic potential, the biggest potential market. Thus, Nigeria is a target. A note from a friend in the region choosing to weigh in with information generally not for public consumption: “We can take down French AQIM without any problem to be honest but Boko Haram are tribes and clans, they are offered drugs, money etc… far far from Islam but at the origin it was an Islamic party infiltrated by the English, French and financed by the “narcos” linked to the CIA, DEA etc… … who are landing their planes full of drugs in Niger, Mali, Mauritania, north of Nigeria, Chad in the desert… around 4 billions a year transit in this region… …then up through Morocco, Polisario, Spain and then Europe and through Tunisia, Libya- Algeria border through Italy, or Greece depending which recipient networks… Ben Ali , king of Morocco, Polisario Front, Algerian zionists are deeply involved in this dirty business, same for migrants, exactly the same people… Boko Haram in charge of Nigeria up to Libya and south of Tunisia, with Touaregs…” For those unaware, and those who wonder why Saif Gaddafi is where he is, those who choose to be fed the superficial view of a region maps show as only empty desert, I hope this is found to be “enriching.” For others, it is exposure I hope they find disturbing. Those in power know I laid out their fate. I told them when the bombings would start, what type, I was even right about the first target, exactly right. I figured what I would do and it happened. I figured what I would do if I were the head of a foreign intelligence agency planning to take over security operations for the government by making the new president appear vulnerable, powerless and then exploiting divisions in the country in order to start two decades of extremely profitable war. In the process, side can be played against side, crooked politicians can keep the decision making apparatus paralyzed and the country can be turned into a terrorist battleground, leading to the long awaited civil war while being bled dry. I laid the whole thing out. Two foreign governments are involved, I named them. I told my friends that Abuja would soon look like Islamabad, cameras, check points, troops, that was the first part of the destabilization plan. This is being done as we speak. Real nation building is not in the cards, only violation and destruction, debt and more debt. I saw it done, more carefully, to the United States. It isn’t the same crew, not entirely, but many of the same actors are involved. First they began by blocking the new president from assuming real power, buying off key political and military leaders. Then a phony terror campaign was begun, like the one the US saw with 9/11. Then “they” arrived with solutions. At the same time, “they,” who have been working with the terror groups for years, are building an “Al Qaeda” type organization that will be able to dart across borders and carefully orchestrate a pattern of destabilization using the same contractors that are going to be paid millions to help put in place security apparatus to protect the country. This happened in America, in a way at least. It is a plan long in motion. Nigerians are ripe for civil war, angry, divided, fed up with abuse. One minor offshoot of the decision making and policy formulation we are seeing is the utter and total destruction of Nigeria’s economic and commercial viability. It is being erased from the maps of boardrooms across the world as a potential place of business, of development, of wealth creation, from Beijing to Zurich and places beyond. Christian Nigeria is being set up, not just to fight a “terror group” in the North but to take on all of Islamic Africa, to draw them into a war that will bring more players, America, for one, into another endless cesspool. Yemen was the model. Simple tribal misunderstandings became tribal conflict and then, through careful orchestration, bushels of bribe money and false flag terrorism, which Nigeria has already been dosed with, Yemen became the stronghold of an imaginary Al Qaeda cell. Soon Nigeria will enjoy the sight of armed UAVs, piloted from, just perhaps, Tel Aviv, theoretically there to punish terrorists. Pakistan will explain it to you if you care to listen. UAV attacks are how terrorists are recruited, how wars are instigated and how the disjointed and unsettled are turned into an enemy camp. The presentations have been made and the purchase orders await only the promised “backhanders” or as we call it here, “kickbacks” to be executed. Nigeria, I love the damned country, my friends there which include those who theoretically rule the country, if such a thing were possible. It is not. What I did do is lay out a plan for the first hundred days that would have prevented this. In order to accomplish this, one would have to overcome a corrupt government, meaning that one would have to assume near dictatorial powers and turn to the people, all the people, for support. One would have to deliver on promises of electrical power, police reform, refinancing debt, so many things. There were two choices, one was to build a nation and the other was to react and become the victim of a plot long stewing in two capitols far away. The desire for a civil war, something so many want in Nigeria, have waited for, has allowed them, the government, the people, to become what they fear most, slaves in their own nation. Nigeria isn’t Libya. It has a population 15 times that of Libya. Nigeria is Africa. Saving Nigeria was vital to world stability, something only a select few know. Destroying Nigeria was vital to world entropy, something only a select few know also. Even fewer know that Nigerian security is considered an area of “clear and present danger” to the United States, or to term it differently for others, an area of “vital national interest.” Our armies enjoy joint exercises yearly, Nigeria is the lynchpin of America’s African policy for the next 25 years. The destabilzation of Nigeria is part and parcel to the destabilization of America’s position in the world, one more thing making Nigeria attractive. America has spent decades making enemies and Nigeria is a way of helping bury America as is Afghanistan. Who would wish such a thing? Get a map and figure it out. As we speak, planeloads of bomb detection equipment is coming in from the same people who built the car bombs in the first place. War is being planned with the help of those who organized and armed the enemy. Enough people were there who remember it all being laid out, how it would be done. Predicting this didn’t take genius, not hardly. I had seen it all before, so many times. The plots spoken of as against Libya are very real but Egypt and Nigeria are the primary targets, taking the place of Iran, a nation that has been more resourceful than expected. Were it taught, which it is not, we would call it history
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by babakb: 12:24pm On Dec 28, 2011
i'm repeating myself, we muslims should refrain from posting comments on islamic matters on this site, these unbelievers are deaf, blind and dumb, they can't comprehend whatever is said to them, despite the hate and spite against islam it is growing, unbelievable, the only threat against the new world order, islam has come to stay, join the unstoppable train or be among those to be doomed for eternity.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by Nobody: 12:30pm On Dec 28, 2011
babakb:

i'm repeating myself, we muslims should refrain from posting comments on islamic matters on this site, these unbelievers are deaf, blind and dumb, they can't comprehend whatever is said to them, despite the hate and spite against islam it is growing, unbelievable, the only threat against the new world order, islam has come to stay, join the unstoppable train or be among those to be doomed for eternity.

Bravo, nice to hear from a terrorist.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by buzugee(m): 12:37pm On Dec 28, 2011
babakb:

i'm repeating myself, we muslims should refrain from posting comments on islamic matters on this site, these unbelievers are deaf, blind and dumb, they can't comprehend whatever is said to them, despite the hate and spite against islam it is growing, unbelievable, the only threat against the new world order, islam has come to stay, join the unstoppable train or be among those to be doomed for eternity.
i shall take my chances on being doomed for eternity. besides i dont think i have the libido to handle 40 virgins embarassed
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by EzeUche(m): 2:07pm On Dec 28, 2011
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Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by cap28: 3:42pm On Dec 28, 2011
Onlytruth:

Please can you conspiracy theorists tell me how these are responsible for Gideon Akaluka's beheading and the massacre that followed; how a cartoon in Denmark led to mass murder in Nigeria; and how innocent youth corpers died because Buhari lost an election?

In the videos you shared, it showed that people inside those countries stood up to the power brokers and kicked them out. Why haven't Nigerians been able to do the same?
Why did Nzeogwu's revolution fail and why did tens of thousands of innocent Igbos get massacred for it?
More importantly, why are there no remorse by the perpetrators of that genocide even today?

When you answer these questions and link them to America and Israel I will start to listen.  cool

In order to answer the above you have to go back to the root cause of this problem.

We were set up to fail by Lord Lugard and his criminal cohorts.  The british knew very well that it would be virtually impossible for a contraption as ethnically and culturally diverse as nigeria to ever succeed as a nation state - but they went ahead and  amalgamated the north with the south for their own economic benefit.

After doing that they set about stoking the fire of division and hatred - it wasnt hard for them to acheive this as the north and south were virtually two separate countries.

As if that wasnt bad enough they then went ahead and handed political as well as military power to the north.  The stage was then set for furture mayhem. 
This old tactic of divide and rule has been played out time and time again across the entire african continent, it was used by the belgians where the tutsis despite being a minority were placed in power over the hutus and allowed to rule over them for more than 100 years we all know what the outcome of that was.

I therefore do not understand why you are unaware that this same tactic is being used in nigeria between the north and the south?

Gideon Akaluka was one of the unfortunate casualties who got caught up in a situation that had been fomented and stoked many years ago, the same goes for all of the other unfortunate incidents involvign the killings of igbos in the north.

You are probably wondering why britain would go to so much trouble to create this divide and rule strategy in nigeria - its simple - a divided nation is easier for them to control, they do not want you uniting and coming together and then realising that they are the cause of all of your problems and many nigerians including yourself keep falling for this trick time and time again.

The Nzeogwu/Ifeajuna coup failed because the british pulled out all of the stops to ensure that their chosen puppets - the north would retain control over nigeria at any cost.

The british went to great pains to ensure that power would remain in the hands of the north for as long as was necessary - they used various tactics including - distorting census figures in order to enable them have a greater number of seats in the house of representatives, applying a quota system to northern applicants to the army so that northern soldiers would outnumber southerners.  All of these tricks ensured that power would remain with the north indefinitely.

The only way out is for the people of nigeria to find a way to put aside ethnic differences and revolt against the northern dominated puppet govt.

Nzeogwu and the other igbo majors tried this in January 66 but the northern elite along with their british puppet masters were able to stoke up inter ethnic hatred between northerners and igbos and convince the northerners taht the january 66 coup was an igbo coup and not a nationalist coup.  The funny thing is Nzeogwu himself was more of an hausa man than an igbo, he spoke fluent hausa and was admired adn respected by many northern officers. 

there is no remorse from the perpetrators of the igbo massacres because they are still in power, not only that they are backed by britain, israel and america.

America's stance on the biafran war was to openly call for relief measures for starving biafrans but privately support the nigerian govt:

During the 1968 presidential campaign, Richard Nixon spoke out at least twice in support of more relief aid for Biafra, and his wife publicly appeared on the steps of St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York to encourage donations. "This is not the time to stand on ceremony or go through channels or to observe the diplomatic niceties," Nixon said in a public statement. "While America is not the world's policeman, let us at least act as the world's conscience in this matter of life and death for millions, ''

The State Department's attitude remained fixed in support of the Nigerian government, at least partly because it was clear from the outset that the Biafrans had no chance of winning. Roger Morris had been frustrated in the Johnson White House at his inability to persuade the administration to increase its aid to Biafra, but there was reason to believe Nixon would change policy. Indeed, during the transition period after the election, Nixon asked Kissinger for a study paper on expanded relief to Biafra; and on January 24, 1969, four days after the inauguration, Biafra was the subject of one of the first National Security Study Memoranda Kissinger ordered. In the early months of his presidency, Morris recalls, Nixon repeatedly told Kissinger that he wanted formal recognition of Biafra, which would have provoked open opposition in the State Department. Yet the policy agreed upon at a February 1969 NSC meeting, at which Nixon presided, called for the United States to maintain official neutrality on the civil war, although continuing to supply relief for the Biafrans.

here is an excerpt from an article describing the disappointment of Biafran spokesmen who sought support from america at that time:

By late fall, Biafran leaders were bitter over the Nixon Administration's refusal to do more than express sympathy and support for their position. "We are especially resentful of the ambivalent pretenses the United States makes, that it is trying to help us," Sir Louis Mbanefo, Biafra's Chief Justice, told a Washington Post reporter. "If we are condemned to die, all right, we will die. But at least let the world, and the United States, be honest about it." White House interest in the Nigerian civil war was not renewed until January 10, 1970, when word came that the collapse of the Biafran forces and the secessionist movement was imminent. The Biafrans surrendered twenty-four hours later.


Years later former national security adviser henry kissinger states the following in his memoirs:

In his memoirs, Kissinger discussed the Nigerian civil war only briefly, dryly noting that "For some reason Biafra had become an issue in the American Presidential campaign of 1968." He and Nixon were aware of studies showing that more than a million Biafran lives were threatened with starvation, Kissinger said, and both supported Roger Morris in his efforts to get supplies directly to Biafra. But, he added, opposition from the British, who supported Nigeria, and "State Department procrastination soon made the issue moot. We never succeeded in establishing an independent relief program,  A curtain of silence descended."

so you can see how various arms within the US govt were playing politics over biafra while britain was vehemently opposed to any form of support being given to biafra by america .


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/GreekTragedy_CWAfrica_TPOP.html
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by cap28: 4:00pm On Dec 28, 2011
onlytruth - notice how the americans only talked about providing Biafrans with FOOD RELEIF (which never materialised) - NEVER ARMS OR MILITARY TRAINING - Contrast that with how they gave arms and military training to the NTC/AL QAEDA REBELS in Libya in order to overthrow Qadaffi.
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by isalegan2: 8:01pm On Dec 28, 2011
cap28:

here is an interesting documentary about DRC from american investigative journalist - keith harmon snow:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6kPY7QC3M[/flash]

That video is mind-blowing.  It's about "The Politics of Genocide," and includes simple re-telling of the Rwanda war and what led to it and all the misinformation and propaganda after it, also Idi Amin/Uganda, Congo, Ivory Coast, etc.  Everyone (All Africans) should watch it.  And it's not even anything conspiratorial; just as straightforward and mainstream as the truth gets. Pure investigative journalism.  Nothing left-wing or right-wing about it.

BTW, if you want to publicly criticise and reveal USA foreign policy duplicity, you better be a US citizen.  Cap, I'm sure you know why.  lol.

I check this often: http://www.youtube.com/user/AfriSynergy
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by emmatok(m): 9:18pm On Dec 28, 2011
cap28:

onlytruth - notice how the americans only talked about providing Biafrans with FOOD RELEIF (which never materialised) - NEVER ARMS OR MILITARY TRAINING - Contrast that with how they gave arms and military training to the NTC/AL QAEDA REBELS in Libya in order to overthrow Qadaffi.



Please read this it is mind bowing.

Our conflicts makes this Jews and Westerners Billionaires .

Nigeria: Targeted for Destruction

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/14/nigeria-targeted-for-destruction/
Re: Israel condemns Nigeria terror, sending Medical aid by igbo2011(m): 9:24am On Dec 29, 2011
@Onlytruth
That article was very sad, I didn't enjoy it sad

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