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Poll: I Prefer?

Military Regime: 52% (35 votes)
Civilian Regime: 47% (32 votes)
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Open Debate: Military Or Civilian Government / Democracy Or Civilian Regime? What Do We Have In Nigeria? / Military or Civilian Rule in Nigeria . . . (1) (2) (3) (4)

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Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by Nashville: 2:55pm On Jan 23, 2012
LEXYLOV:

Yes I have said it many times, and am saying it again and again. What Rawling did in Ghana is what we urgently needed in this country if at all we are dreaming of any progress in the future. @ GenBuhari. You are very wrong about abacha But Buhari Idiagbon is ok to perceived as the best military administration we got in Nigeria history, But I will equally suggest that Late Gen Murtala Muhammed administration is also Good compare to Buhari/Idiagbon If we had an opportunity to have Murtala stay like 8yrs in power and Buhari 8 yrs in power Nigeria today would have been a better place to stay. Anyone doubts me ask your parent or elders on this fact. lipsrsealed

Not sure how you concluded that. Murtala Mohammed lasted only six months and Buhari twenty months. Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely. Give those guys eight years and you would have seen their true colours. Lets be real and stop dreaming, with the entrenched corruption in Nigeria today, do you think there exists a soldier whom if given absolute power (as is the case with military) will not go out and enrich himself?

As I said, our democracy is bad because most of the top shots have a military background. We need to get rid of those people, and may be practice a parliamentary system going forward.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by coogar: 3:00pm On Jan 23, 2012
akpan123:

make your choice and why.

for nigeria, we are better suited to the military regime.

nigerians are not mature enough with democracy regime. the politicians are morally bankrupt!
democracy can and will not work in nigeria. . . . .the people don't even understand democracy - tribalism and religious sentiments wouldn't let them.
jonathan got those votes because the south wanted anyone but a hausa man to rule regardless of the leadership skills, intelligence, etc.
i am actually disappointed the army boys have not taken advantage with the state of the country. . . . .

they should come back, hold us down for as long as they want until all the fraudulent politicians are locked up or killed. . .then we can start again.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by django59(m): 3:08pm On Jan 23, 2012
The worst civilian govt will always be better than the best military junta.Nigeria's democratic govt isn't working cos imcompetent people have been in power since 1999.Just to clear some confusion,there is no such thing as hausafulani,each is a different ethnicity with different languages,customs,etc,
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by kulutempa: 3:29pm On Jan 23, 2012
I always laugh when I see posts such as this. Nigerians are always looking for a messiah to take them to the promised land without realising that they, the people, are their own messiahs. I remember how some people were swearing in 1999 after Abacha died, and the civilians came to power, that there is no way Nigeria should have a military leader again. The fact of the matter is that it is easier to get rid of a civilian leader in a democracy, than a military dictator. Can you imagine if Alao Akala, had been the military administrator of Oyo state under a military government? Do you think the people would have been able to get rid of him like they did during the elections. Nigerians have to realise that it is up to them to effect change in their own country by holding their leaders accountable, and that those leaders would continue to steal billions and run the country to the ground if they believe that they can get away with it. Do you think Jonathan would have partially reversed the subsidy removal without the strikes and protests? Please, let's grow up and stop allowing ourselves to be deceived by false messiahs.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by gbengress1: 4:50pm On Jan 23, 2012
I prefer a real civilian govt not pseudomilitary govt practised as civilian govt in Nigeria
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by GenBuhari(m): 4:52pm On Jan 23, 2012
The facts do not support your statement, you could almost say that the reverse is  true in Nigeria
django59:

The worst civilian govt will always be better than the best military junta.Nigeria's democratic govt isn't working cos imcompetent people have been in power since 1999.Just to clear some confusion,there is no such thing as hausafulani,each is a different ethnicity with different languages,customs,etc,
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by kshow1(m): 5:10pm On Jan 23, 2012
I prefer a Military regime because i feel we are not yet set to practice democracy with all that has been happening to our dear country since 1999.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by gascoign1(m): 5:31pm On Jan 23, 2012
With the level of corruption,indiscipline,insecurity and failed system, i will choose the military regime,only dumb still believes Nigeria is ready for democracy. The last time i checked,Electricity,discipline,good roads and less corruption was not as worse as the civilian regime, records still speaks for itself.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by efisher(m): 5:41pm On Jan 23, 2012
Civilian rule is slow and steady and 1 man cannot do as he pleases. It may take time, but it's more sustainable. The led also have a role to play.

On the other hand, military is fast and furious and 1 man can ruin it all. Also, the led are at the mercy of the leaders.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by BigMeat2: 6:43pm On Jan 23, 2012
With over 12 years of civilian government, can anyone point to any tangible or credible development in our nation apart from the over inflated GSM services which was done by the Obasanjo government and only one or two state governors performing above par. The rest are just useless, this has been the case with every democratic dispensation right from the first republic. The first republic was slightly better, save some regions.
The second, third and the current crops are blatant real thieves in agbada and babariga. Shame on the lot of them.

I prefer the military as least we know where we stand and how far we can misbehave.

Most infrastructural developments in the country where done under the military regime e.g.
- the famous lagos-ibadan expressway - Gowon, the plan was to make that expressway all the way to ilorin.
- lagos international airport (known now as MMIA) - Gowon
- building of oil refineries - Gowon
- 3rd Mainland bridge - Babangida
- effective law & order - Buhari
- dealing with foreign companies (e.g British Airways) - Abacha
- plain level exchange rate - Abacha
- festac nigeria - Obasanjo
-operation feed the nation - Obasanjo

The list is endless, but our civilian governments have been just too merciless, taking jumbo pays and doing absolutely nothing.
Someone can help us check, how many bills were passed last year, instead they are always eager or will fight if their allowances are being debated  cry

Unfortunately and this is sad, we in Nigeria are not yet ripe or intellectually developed to operate a democratic government  cry
What is needed is a real tough no nonsense military ruler, who specialises in kicking backsides.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by odumchi: 7:33pm On Jan 23, 2012
May military rule never return to Nigeria.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by GenBuhari(m): 7:59pm On Jan 23, 2012
Shagari's civilian adminstration 1979-1983 was hopeless corrupt and clueless, but since the last 12 years of PDP, his record is starting to appear to not to be so bad in comparision to corruption Nigeria is witnessing today.

I would correct you and say that 3rd mainland bridge was completed by Shagari and he had started to add a small annex which he never completed before being overthrown. IBB completed the small section of Bridge and is now being credited with building the entire bridge undecided



3rd October 1980 - ITN News
President Shagari opens the Third Mainland Bridge in Lagos

The third major road bridge from the Nigerian mainland to the Island of Lagos was opened by President Alhaji Shehu Shagari (on Tuesday 30 September), as part of the country's independence celebrations. It's designed to relieve the growing pressure on the two existing bridges which span the Lagos Lagoon.

SYNOPSIS: Since 1975 the growing number of vehicles driving in and out of Lagos have put the existing road system under considerable strain. So the completion of the Third Mainland Bridge is a welcome addition to tackle the problem. The first vehicles to travel along the bridge formed the official opening motorcade. It's the third in successive Government's efforts to link Lagos with the mainland.

Present Shehu Shagari was introduced to the officials who've co-ordinated construction since the bridge was merely a drawing on an architect's board. Then he was called on to officially declare the bridge open. He'd earlier paid glowing tributes to the contractors.

In contrast to the few vehicles in the official motorcade, the two original bridges were full, as usual, with heavy traffic. The problem's been evident since the early 1970s, and the first plans for the Third Mainland Bridge were discussed in 1975. Its design in comparable with the best in the world, according to Nigeria's Director of Federal Highways. It consists of


http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.32.html
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by bigbussy(m): 9:58pm On Jan 23, 2012
civil rule is more conducive in any highly organised group of men & women dat make, execute and interpret laws 4d individual and general benefits of d citizenry in a country compare to military rule. civilian govt. gives room to fundamental human rights while military do not. it also promotes the freedom of speech, movement and association. the reverse is d case with military rule
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by Macavelius(m): 10:32pm On Jan 23, 2012
civil rule is much better, as it is our own thing, much better chance to share in the dividends of democracy.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by teeboyseve(m): 7:04pm On Jan 24, 2012
With Military regime the country's economy will be stagnant, it will never go up or down,It will just remain their.
With civilian, it will always go down.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by Somorin1(m): 1:05am On Jan 25, 2012
Nigeria, specifically, requires a military government, based solely on the fact that wear a discontent marriage of convenience as performed by the British on their way out.

I'll also go further that we should end this unsavory relationship once and for all and create three countries, Yoruba Kingdom (Southern Nigeria), Northern Nigeria and Biafra,
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by GenBuhari(m): 4:23am On Jan 25, 2012
^Stop asking for things that nay never happen, unless you want another civil war
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by Somorin1(m): 5:44am On Jan 25, 2012
Is that a promise?

From the outside we're already in a civil war.

Ask those that lost their lives up North or those that are returning back south to their villages.

PS: Oh, sorry I didn't check with your highness before I went and had an opinion.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by GenBuhari(m): 10:08pm On Jan 25, 2012
After 13years of PDP corruption and looting , majority of Nigerians would now happily embrace a military government.

Interesting.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by velo10: 2:25am On Jan 26, 2012
Wow. 33 support military rule against 30 supporting civilian rule.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by Somorin1(m): 3:46am On Jan 26, 2012
velo10:

Wow. 33 support military rule against 30 supporting civilian rule.

In most other country, this will be of concern to current leadership, but knowing Nigerian political movement, it won't.

Not sure exactly what is supposed to be wrong with military government.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by GenBuhari(m): 4:25am On Jan 26, 2012
It has become apparent that Nigerians lack the political maturity and sophistication for true democracy.

We simply seem incapable of understanding the democratic concept of holding our leaders to account.

Military governments are not necessarily the answer either, as being stuck with another Babangida would be a fate you would not wish on your worst enemy.

Having said that, I think because of the levels of corruption in Nigeria, if the military were to return, it most likely would be an anti-corruption regime.
Re: Military Or Civilian Regime Make Your Choice And Why. by ayobase(m): 7:00pm On Feb 05, 2013
Big Meat: With over 12 years of civilian government, can anyone point to any tangible or credible development in our nation apart from the over inflated GSM services which was done by the Obasanjo government and only one or two state governors performing above par. The rest are just useless, this has been the case with every democratic dispensation right from the first republic. The first republic was slightly better, save some regions.
The second, third and the current crops are blatant real thieves in agbada and babariga. Shame on the lot of them.

I prefer the military as least we know where we stand and how far we can misbehave.

Most infrastructural developments in the country where done under the military regime e.g.
- the famous lagos-ibadan expressway - Gowon, the plan was to make that expressway all the way to ilorin.
- lagos international airport (known now as MMIA) - Gowon
- building of oil refineries - Gowon
- 3rd Mainland bridge - Babangida
- effective law & order - Buhari
- dealing with foreign companies (e.g British Airways) - Abacha
- plain level exchange rate - Abacha
- festac nigeria - Obasanjo
-operation feed the nation - Obasanjo

The list is endless, but our civilian governments have been just too merciless, taking jumbo pays and doing absolutely nothing.
Someone can help us check, how many bills were passed last year, instead they are always eager or will fight if their allowances are being debated  cry

Unfortunately and this is sad, we in Nigeria are not yet ripe or intellectually developed to operate a democratic government  cry
What is needed is a real tough no nonsense military ruler, who specialises in kicking backsides.

Do I know you from somewhere!
Have we ever discussed before?

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