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If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by kaysy(m): 1:20pm On Feb 05, 2012
You don't expect an Alaba man after importing through the lagos Apapa Port to transport his goods all the way to the South East just because he want to claim a patriotic igbo man

abi na lie?
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by MrGlobe(m): 2:10pm On Feb 05, 2012
No stay there. As them dey beg you to come back. They are just saying, if you cant cope with the violence come back
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Dede1(m): 2:52pm On Feb 05, 2012
@OP

You seem to catch the drift what is at stake here. Since after Nigeria/Baifra civil war, Nigerian citizenry has been divided into unaccountable group of people. There are those of them who wrongly or rightly assumed they were born to rule Nigeria. In addition, there are people who believed that being a helper to those who assumed the illusionary vision of born to rule are now in the driver’s seat to steer the economy of Nigeria and terrified by the relentless zeal of Igbo man to top the chart in economic activities. Also, there are much maligned groups of people who thought Igbo man is a danger to their survival in Nigeria and willing to remain saboteurs and backstabbers even when their home land could be used as compensation.

It is not a mere coincidence there is not natural deep water seaport in eastern region of Nigeria and no international airport in the same rank with MMA or NAA in Lagos and Abuja respectively. Nigeria and its leadership would rather have Nigeria disintegrated than allow Igbo man major points of contact with outside world located deep inside Igbo land or at the backside of Igbo land. It is an unqualified insult to international airports around the world to refer to Port Harcourt airstrip as international airport. Unfortunately, Port Harcourt seaport is not a natural deep water seaport and government of Nigeria will not dredge it. Since there were numerous economic activities taking shape in eastern region of Nigeria, I had assumed that Opobo would have attracted attention for erection of natural deep water seaport project.

The talk about natural deep water seaport connected with Akwa Ibom State has been on and off. The culprits in these entire economic and political sagas are sons and daughters of eastern region of Nigeria who had stepped on the corridor of power in Nigeria and went to sleep with nonsensical and unpatriotic song of one and united Nigeria.

There is absolutely nothing about One-Nigeria and the unity people yarn about is akin to wild goose chase.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by PROUDIGBO(m): 12:56am On Feb 06, 2012
^^^If they (Sons/Daughters of eastern region) like let them continue procrastinating and faffing about, instead of taking the bull by the horns and using the opportuntity of one of us being at the helm to fastrack the realization of critical projects located in the SE/SS. Jonathan has spent more than two years now as the de facto President still no functional Int'l Airport at Enugu; no functional River Port at Onitsha; no plans yet for any new employment generating industry (besides what we get in the general scheme of things); Tinapa is still underutilised; nothing cast in stone yet regarding the second Niger bridge; Ibaka deep Sea Port is still solely an Akwa Ibom State initiative with no financial commitment from the centre; etc, etc.

Had some other Region/People been in power at the centre, by now you would have heard of some mega-project (either Gov't funded, or they would help facilitate the use of private funds) being located in their region, and of course the major beneficiaries for employment (etc) would be individuals from that region b/4 others see anything.

After the civil war, there should have been a 'Marshal plan' type initiative to assist the Eastern Region with its recovery but nothing of the sort happened.

Knowing how unconcerned (let me not say wicked) others have been towards economic/social issues in the SE/SS, we would be stupi*d not to use this opportunity wisely.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by sbeezy8: 1:05am On Feb 06, 2012
hmm sea port in south east- is there any sea in the SE real question no joking.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 1:09am On Feb 06, 2012
Igbo land does not connect to the sea, however there are 4 deep sea ports located in warri, port harcourt, Onne (south of PH) and Calabar. Igbos in lagos have the choice to ship their products to any of those locations but they choose to go through Lagos.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by NegroNtns(m): 2:25am On Feb 06, 2012
Igbo land does not connect to the sea, however there are 4 deep sea ports located in warri, port harcourt, Onne (south of PH) and Calabar. Igbos in lagos have the choice to ship their products to any of those locations but they choose to go through Lagos.

A lot of these guys in Lagos that have succeeded in the typical fake product marketing are what in the igbo society would be called "osu". It does not matter how successful or well educated they are, their society discriminate against them. They are an outcast in that society and the osu stigma is lifelong. They cannot hold titles or lead the igbo tribe. Their relevance is limited to fellow osus like themselves.

As a result, they take any slight opportunity to get out of their discriminating society and go live in societies outside iboland that are more liberal and embracing of their humanity. Once they leave most never look back home. This is why inspite of many years of killing and oppression in North, they still prefer and loved that region far more than the oppression and indignity suffered in the hands of their own people back home. For this reason, iboland is deserted. It is not the industriousness that make them leave. . . they can be just as industrious on their soil, but rather the crime against their humanity.

They will never use ports in East, even if you dredge the Delta and bring the sea into iboland and build a world class harbour and port in there. . . . these guys will not go to iboland. Hence, as new structures and facilities are built in East. . . there is hardly anyone to use them and so they lay underutilized. A waste of money!

It is not a seaport that ibos need to go back home. . . . it is abolition of the osu caste.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by EkoIle1: 4:28am On Feb 06, 2012
Negro_Ntns:

A lot of these guys in Lagos that have succeeded in the typical fake product marketing are what in the igbo society would be called "osu". It does not matter how successful or well educated they are, their society discriminate against them. They are an outcast in that society and the osu stigma is lifelong. They cannot hold titles or lead the igbo tribe. Their relevance is limited to fellow osus like themselves.

As a result, they take any slight opportunity to get out of their discriminating society and go live in societies outside iboland that are more liberal and embracing of their humanity. Once they leave most never look back home. This is why inspite of many years of killing and oppression in North, they still prefer and loved that region far more than the oppression and indignity suffered in the hands of their own people back home. For this reason, iboland is deserted. It is not the industriousness that make them leave. . . they can be just as industrious on their soil, but rather the crime against their humanity.

They will never use ports in East, even if you dredge the Delta and bring the sea into iboland and build a world class harbour and port in there. . . . these guys will not go to iboland. Hence, as new structures and facilities are built in East. . . there is hardly anyone to use them and so they lay underutilized. A waste of money!

It is not a seaport that ibos need to go back home. . . . it is abolition of the osu caste.


Very enlightening summary,
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 4:53am On Feb 06, 2012
GAR3TH:

Igbo land does not connect to the sea, however there are 4 deep sea ports located in warri, port harcourt, Onne (south of PH) and Calabar. Igbos in lagos have the choice to ship their products to any of those locations but they choose to go through Lagos.

No my friend, the ONLY deep sea port in the East is still on drawing board, and that is at Ibaka in Akwa Ibom. All the rest you listed are not deep sea ports, thanks to neglect by the fed govt.
When Ibaka is completed, we shall then take stock.
You people should stop lying. It doesn't help your cause.  sad
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 5:43am On Feb 06, 2012
kaysy:

You don't expect an Alaba man after importing through the lagos Apapa Port to transport his goods all the way to the South East just because he want to claim a patriotic igbo man

abi na lie?

do what ever you like , some people are using the port in ph while others like you choose lagos , nobody is begging you , importers and exporters have already started bulding structures while waiting for both onitsha and asaba airport.

Dede1:

@OP

You seem to catch the drift what is at stake here. Since after Nigeria/Baifra civil war, Nigerian citizenry has been divided into unaccountable group of people. There are those of them who wrongly or rightly assumed they were born to rule Nigeria. In addition, there are people who believed that being a helper to those who assumed the illusionary vision of born to rule are now in the driver’s seat to steer the economy of Nigeria and terrified by the relentless zeal of Igbo man to top the chart in economic activities. Also, there are much maligned groups of people who thought Igbo man is a danger to their survival in Nigeria and willing to remain saboteurs and backstabbers even when their home land could be used as compensation.

It is not a mere coincidence there is not natural deep water seaport in eastern region of Nigeria and no international airport in the same rank with MMA or NAA in Lagos and Abuja respectively. Nigeria and its leadership would rather have Nigeria disintegrated than allow Igbo man major points of contact with outside world located deep inside Igbo land or at the backside of Igbo land. It is an unqualified insult to international airports around the world to refer to Port Harcourt airstrip as international airport. Unfortunately, Port Harcourt seaport is not a natural deep water seaport and government of Nigeria will not dredge it. Since there were numerous economic activities taking shape in eastern region of Nigeria, I had assumed that Opobo would have attracted attention for Attention of natural deep water seaport project.

The talk about natural deep water seaport connected with Akwa Ibom State has been on and off. The culprits in these entire economic and political sagas are sons and daughters of eastern region of Nigeria who had stepped on the corridor of power in Nigeria and went to sleep with nonsensical and unpatriotic song of one and united Nigeria.

There is absolutely nothing about One-Nigeria and the unity people yarn about is akin to wild goose chase.


portharcourt airport need more flight roots ,right now its only klm ,wuarter,then i think one chinese and one other european arline that is operating there. if they can get u.s and u.k it will be good for them.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by stayreal: 5:44am On Feb 06, 2012
Negro_Ntns:

A lot of these guys in Lagos that have succeeded in the typical fake product marketing are what in the igbo society would be called "osu".  It does not matter how successful or well educated they are, their society discriminate against them.  They are an outcast in that society and the osu stigma is lifelong.  They cannot hold titles or lead the igbo tribe.  Their relevance is limited to fellow osus like themselves.  

As a result, they take any slight opportunity to get out of their discriminating society and go live in societies outside iboland that are more liberal and embracing of their humanity. Once they leave most never look back home.  This is why inspite of many years of killing and oppression in North, they still prefer and loved that region far more than the oppression and indignity suffered in the hands of their own people back home.  For this reason, iboland is deserted.  It is not the industriousness that make them leave. . . they can be just as industrious on their soil, but rather the crime against their humanity.  

They will never use ports in East, even if you dredge the Delta and bring the sea into iboland and build a world class harbour and port in there. . . . these guys will not go to iboland.  Hence, as new structures and facilities are built in East. . . there is hardly anyone to use them and so they lay underutilized.  A waste of money!  

It is not a seaport that ibos need to go back home. . . . it is abolition of the osu caste.  

Have you talked to these igbos to ask if they are "osu"? Many igbos are not practicing this belief anymore. I have many relatives that live in Lagos and are doing well. Real movers and shakers in lagos. So to assume that all or the majority of Igbos are "osu" in Lagos is stupid. When Christmasn comes we know that the majority of Igbos go back East? This is a fact that cannot be disputed.

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Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 5:46am On Feb 06, 2012
however i dont see a situation where people will abandon lagos port even if we have all the ports in the east rather those using lagos port should keep using it while new bloods will spring up and control the ones in the east ,it could be a win win situation for us controling all the ports and economies of the east and west  thereby reducing our unemployment to 0 this is what developed nations are doing , they seize their economy and control or have a big share in your  yours too .
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 5:49am On Feb 06, 2012
stayreal:

Have you talked to these igbos to ask if they are "osu"? Many igbos are not practicing this belief anymore. I have many relatives that live in Lagos and are doing well. Real movers and shakers in lagos. So to assume that all or the majority of Igbos are "osu" in Lagos is silly. When Christmasn comes we know that the majority of Igbos go back East? This is a fact that cannot be disputed.

notice we have been ignoring him , these people are just ignorant yet they will complain igbos run to the east during christmas and during census, let them keep fooling themselves.those igbos in lagos should remain there and keep controling their economy while the ones in the east should keephoding down the eastern economy
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by stayreal: 5:52am On Feb 06, 2012
If the East can get a real international airport and seaport, there would be nothing we couldn't accomplish even in "one Nigeria." The building of a sea port and international airport are federal projects in every country. Making the state do it, makes it very hard because you are talking about international flights and business that will be conducted through these places. States should not be dealing alone in such areas. Any city/region in the world that is successful in business has an real international airport and/or seaport. If these are created, people will see more Igbos relocated back East. Then we can start conferation and eventually breakaway from Nigeria.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Valon4ego(m): 6:01am On Feb 06, 2012
on a different note,what happened to the niger dredging"that have reached 70% completion" under the yar'adua's administration?
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 6:03am On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth:

No my friend, the ONLY deep sea port in the East is still on drawing board, and that is at Ibaka in Akwa Ibom. All the rest you listed are not deep sea ports, thanks to neglect by the fed govt.
When Ibaka is completed, we shall then take stock.
You people should stop lying. It doesn't help your cause.  sad

how is Warri, Port Harcourt, Onne and calabar not deep sea ports? It seems you don't know what you are talking about or you just like to neglect the truth to satisfy your "igbo being marginalized" agenda. below is a picture of warri, port harcourt and onne port, as you can see they are deep sea ports and they are real. for god sake really, why argue on a subject like this  

Second these ports are up to international standards, As a matter of fact, warri, calabar and port harcourt all got equipment upgrades. Warri port is also currently under expansion which will add new docking terminals and a link to the rail network. To add to that Onne port is a recently constructed port in which construction of phase 1 was completed around 2006-2007. phase 2 and 3 are still under construction.

So tell me, which ports in the east are imaginary, because according to you there are no ports in the east. So tell me which port are outdated, because every port go upgrade, new ports such as onne were built and some are being expanded. So tell me how did you come up with your claims??


Warri port (being expanded)



Calabar port



Port harcourt port



Onne port (phase 1 complete - 2&3 under construction)

Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 6:07am On Feb 06, 2012
^What I meant was NATURAL deep ports.
However, your point is taken that the ports are coming to live (read being upgraded). Whether they become fully functional is really the onus of the federal government.
Why should a business man in Onithsa or Aba choose to import through Lagos, when Warri or Onne is there?
Who likes suffering?
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Valon4ego(m): 6:09am On Feb 06, 2012
PROUD-IGBO:

^^^If they (Sons/Daughters of eastern region) like let them continue procrastinating and faffing about, instead of taking the bull by the horns and using the opportuntity of one of us being at the helm to fastrack the realization of critical projects located in the SE/SS. Jonathan has spent more than two years now as the de facto President still no functional Int'l Airport at Enugu; no functional River Port at Onitsha; no plans yet for any new employment generating industry (besides what we get in the general scheme of things); Tinapa is still underutilised; nothing cast in stone yet regarding the second Niger bridge; Ibaka deep Sea Port is still solely an Akwa Ibom State initiative with no financial commitment from the centre; etc, etc.

Had some other Region/People been in power at the centre, by now you would have heard of some mega-project (either Gov't funded, or they would help facilitate the use of private funds) being located in their region, and of course the major beneficiaries for employment (etc) would be individuals from that region b/4 others see anything.

After the civil war, there should have been a 'Marshal plan' type initiative to assist the Eastern Region with its recovery but nothing of the sort happened.

Knowing how unconcerned (let me not say wicked) others have been towards economic/social issues in the SE/SS, we would be stupi*d not to use this opportunity wisely.
brother,my worries exactly! No capital project in the east (at least to the best of my knowledge)under this administration. If we don't get them now when are we ever going to?!?
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 6:11am On Feb 06, 2012
They are NATURAL deep sea ports. All ports are at ocean level and are deep enough for tankers to navigate and have open access to the ocean.

And all of them are fully functional btw, they were upgraded in the past.


Onlytruth:

^What I meant was NATURAL deep ports.
However, your point is taken that the ports are coming to live (read being upgraded). Whether they become fully functional is really the onus of the federal government.
Why should a business man in Onithsa or Aba choose to import through Lagos, when Warri or Onne is there
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 6:16am On Feb 06, 2012
GAR3TH:

They are NATURAL deep sea ports. All ports are at ocean level and are deep enough for tankers to navigate and have open access to the ocean.

And all of them are fully functional btw, they were upgraded in the past.



Now my turn.
Why do you think that they are not being used for importation by Igbos?
Do you know that HUGE numbers of the containers coming into Nigeria ends up in the East?
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 6:17am On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth:

^What I meant was NATURAL deep ports.
However, your point is taken that the ports are coming to live (read being upgraded). Whether they become fully functional is really the onus of the federal government.
Why should a business man in Onithsa or Aba choose to import through Lagos, when Warri or Onne is there?
Who likes suffering?


a lot of importers especially from aba and ph use the porth harcourt port i hope your aware of that
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 6:19am On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth:

Now my turn.
Why do you think that they are not being used for importation by Igbos?
Do you know that HUGE numbers of the containers coming into Nigeria ends up in the East?

i dont even think most of them are aware they exist, i also heard clearing is more expensive in ph port but faster and not all shipping companies operate there
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 6:19am On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth:

Now my turn.
Why do you think that they are not being used for importation by Igbos?
Do you know that HUGE numbers of the containers coming into Nigeria ends up in the East?

They are being used, what do you think the ships and the cargo in the pictures are doing, its not just for show.

second pls stop stating things without facts or sources, thats what got you in trouble in the first place
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 6:21am On Feb 06, 2012
bashr8:

i dont even think most of them are aware they exist, i also heard clearing is more expensive in ph port but faster and not all shipping companies operate there

Hmm. I think the two bolded must be the problem then.
I think maybe there are not enough shipping companies operating out of there.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bashr8: 6:25am On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth:

Hmm. I think the two bolded must be the problem then.
I think maybe there are not enough shipping companies operating out of there.
yeah but its more risky to import from lagos you might end up loosing your goods on the terrible high ways ,the issue is that most importers are not aware of it , the ones i work with just got to know about it early last year and since then they have never step foot in lagos again cus at the end of the day you spend more money going to lagos on other logistics and insurance plus bad roads and bribe and wait time.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by macjive01: 6:28am On Feb 06, 2012
ONNE is not a deep water port. if u take a look at the port u wud see that there is no provision for cranes, onne port is basically for oil companies and their products.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by Onlytruth(m): 6:31am On Feb 06, 2012
bashr8:

yeah but its more risky to import from lagos you might end up loosing your goods on the terrible high ways ,the issue is that most importers are not aware of it , the ones i work with just got to know about it early last year and since then they have never step foot in lagos again cus[b] at the end of the day you spend more money going to lagos on other logistics and insurance plus bad roads and bribe and wait time.[/b]

lol, I was thinking just the same thing. I also suspect that the shipping companies may not be that keep to ship there.
I also agree that traders are not much informed about it, but then if they are that good, I strongly believe that the traders will know. Who likes wasting money and suffering by going to Lagos? C'mon! undecided
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 6:44am On Feb 06, 2012
macjive01:

ONNE is not a deep water port. if u take a look at the port u wud see that there is no provision for cranes, onne port is basically for oil companies and their products.

It is a deep sea port, and they do have cranes, The cranes are isolated mobile vehicles. The blue structure in this picture (left), they also have other colors.

Yes onne does have oil and gas facilities but its main purpose is cargo, hence why you see cargo ships and containers.



Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by manny4life(m): 4:02pm On Feb 06, 2012
I know someone isn't talking about facts and figures, angry angry angry I believe he's given you his own self accessed info. Anyway @ topic, if the actual ports are there, what the SS in collaboration with the SE is Public Relations and Marketing their services. These ports needs to pitch their services(i.e. if they are reliable) to importers who will see the worth in it. By the time the demand is there, shipping companies will eventually add that route to their timetable.

After all, that's what large shipping companies do with their gigantic ships, use smaller ships to reach out to other ports as well. In addition to that, the SE needs a sound logistic network (rail, good roads, and airports), I'm sure by the time they have these in place, things will gradually take position.
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by GAR3TH(m): 5:29pm On Feb 06, 2012
manny4life:

I know someone isn't talking about facts and figures,  angry angry angry I believe he's given you his own self accessed info.

LoL couldn't help but laugh cheesy key word, you believe
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by manny4life(m): 5:53pm On Feb 06, 2012
GAR3TH:

LoL couldn't help but laugh cheesy key word, you believe

Well let me give you more to laugh about, shoot, I rephrased for you; he he's given you his own self accessed info, is that good enough for you? lls cool cool cool
Re: If The South East Governors Wants Igbos Back, They Should Build Us A Sea Port by bakila: 6:30pm On Feb 06, 2012
Onlytruth, Dede 1, stayreal! How many time I call una? three times. How is it that you guys are allows posting igbo based breakaway infested maggots and pretend u are talking to each other. You guys are adding salt to injury if keep (silly, sorry if offended) sort of post on NAIRAland. You fight the north today, the west 2moro the SS next. Leave lagos port and you are doomed. Cos you monopoly on some business is more evident with you hate for others. Yes we know you brothers that are industrious in places are outcast and would rather be where they are now than suffer real, live and brutal wickedness from there brothers. That you guys dont know the status of Calaber, Onne, Warri and PH ports shows you ignorance of things or the level of you mischief or deception. No oil money for every one no consumer money for nyamurai for fake or genuine goods.

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