Nairaland Forum

oduasolja:

these igbos just like fighting wars they cant win.


u will fight , u will die and u will lose and ur children will cry.


just dont bring your nonsense to yoruba land like last time. 

next thing u know they will be shouting genocide.

You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a sweeping generalization "these igbos", who are "these igbos" that you talk about? The few people that you hear making noise? For everyone of these noise makers, there are ten thousand more who are not talking. Don't generalize a whole bunch of people easily.

We that said, don't lack empathy either for what they are going through. If a bunch of yoruba people where getting killed someone, you would hurt. But you know what? You shouldn't hurt because they are yoruba. You should hurt because they are human and no human deserves to be robbed of their life. You should hurt because that is unjust. You can rob a man of his man, and pay him back later, but once you rob someone of his life, you can never undo it. You also rob his or her parents, sisters, brothers, friends, the community and society of the person. There are many citizens of Nigerians who have been robbed of their lives over the years, from all tribes. We must fight for human life, it is the number one human right.

However, just because you feel that the things that are going on doesn't affect you, doesn't mean you should turn a blind eye to it. If we are to be one nigeria, then it is right, fair and just for all to unit. What that means is that if someone is doing wrong, others should speak also speak out against the wrong doer. With that said, I leave you this famous statement about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power,

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

DonSegmond:

You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a sweeping generalization "these igbos", who are "these igbos" that you talk about? The few people that you hear making noise? For everyone of these noise makers, there are ten thousand more who are not talking. Don't generalize a whole bunch of people easily.

We that said, don't lack empathy either for what they are going through. If a bunch of yoruba people where getting killed someone, you would hurt. But you know what? You shouldn't hurt because they are yoruba. You should hurt because they are human and no human deserves to be robbed of their life. You should hurt because that is unjust. You can rob a man of his man, and pay him back later, but once you rob someone of his life, you can never undo it. You also rob his or her parents, sisters, brothers, friends, the community and society of the person. There are many citizens of Nigerians who have been robbed of their lives over the years, from all tribes. We must fight for human life, it is the number one human right.

However, just because you feel that the things that are going on doesn't affect you, doesn't mean you should turn a blind eye to it. If we are to be one nigeria, then it is right, fair and just for all to unit. What that means is that if someone is doing wrong, others should speak also speak out against the wrong doer. With that said, I leave you this famous statement about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power,

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

dude , trust me i feel for the igbos and all innocent blood. I am not a violent person and totally condemn all this bloody violence going on. but i jsut hate people who talk about wars and stuff when we all know war aint a funny biz. if u die there aint no coming back.

We that said, don't lack empathy either for what they are going through.  If a bunch of yoruba people where getting killed someone, you would hurt.  But you know what?  You shouldn't hurt because they are yoruba.  You should hurt because they are human and no human deserves to be robbed of their life.   You should hurt because that is unjust.  You can rob a man of his man, and pay him back later, but once you rob someone of his life, you can never undo it.  You also rob his or her parents, sisters, brothers, friends, the community and society of the person.    There are many citizens of Nigerians who have been robbed of their lives over the years, from all tribes.   We must fight for human life, it is the number one human right.

DonSegmond, you must be pne of those Ndigbos that want one Nigeria for the sake of your property and investment in Lagos.   Not that you truly care for the human suffering, as your response suggest, because of you do you should turn your piousness and goodwill inside and help resolve a cultural igbo problem. . . that of the Osu caste.  Your persuasion is strong and I like, I even highlighted it.  Act your talk and for the sake of the Osu, bring about a change for reformation in East.

Ok, I'm back! 

Dudu_Negro:

Onlytruth, I am sure you are familiar with this.  This is what you wrote . . . these are your thoughts, the secrets buried in your soul spilled out in NL.  How is this different from what Uwazuroke said in the article of this post?

All that buulshhyyt about we are not against Yoruba is a fvckery. . . . we know exactly where you stand, you hide outwardly but in your heart you embrace Uwazuruke's message to take war to Yoruba.  We are justified to start an attack on you and start killing you in order that we should preempt a first attack from you.   Do you believe differently?    You should be removed as Eze of Biafra.  

Dude you are really shouting yourself hoarse over nothing because my statement should come NATURALLY to any sane and realistic Igbo or Easterner as the only way to deter mass murderers who are warming up to come to Igboland and repeat their genocidal history. People like yourself speaking with forked tongues, scheming our annihilation will NEVER be allowed to succeed.
You are not even intelligent enough to notice that I don't agree with Uwazuruike's methods which I term blowing hot and cold. First he speaks of non-violence, next he threatens war in all parts of Nigeria. Which shall I believe? As far as I'm concerned, in the agitation for a Biafran nation (an African nation), vowing non-violence is almost obtuse IMHO. It is tantamount to losing the psychological war even before the physical war starts. One does not have to commit to non-violence explicity. He could have maintained non-committal either way, at least publicly.

Pray tell, which African country understands non-violent agitations? That is why every other group in Nigeria is pacified and compensated, while MASSOB is simply shot.
One of the problems I see in Uwazurikes methods is that he is adopting an approach used by Mahatma Ghandhi against the BRITISH. Whether you accept it or not, white folks have a deeper level human understanding and they understand things like non-violence and hunger strikes. FACT 

Show me anywhere in Africa where a change was obtained using those methods. 
So, yes, I believe that the only way for Igbo to ever contemplate fighting another war in Nigeria is to be ready to fight in ALL AND ANY nook of Nigeria. That is the war I would like to fight; not the one they stage in Igboland. Uwazuruike first called on Igbo to return to Igboland. Now he is threatening to fight in all parts of Nigeria. How can he do that when Igbos have already left the North? I see gaps in his position, and we cannot afford to have those gaps. We must NEVER allow history to repeat.
Personally, I would prefer to fight and die in Sokoto or Kano or Maiduguri, than to die in Igboland. That is who I am. Learn to live with it. 

That is why I personally would never start a war in Nigeria until I have secured certain level of preparedness and support. That is why I was alarmed by Uwazuruike's outburst.
That is also why I would choose dialogue and negotiation first before any other option.
That is why I add my voice strongly to the agitation for a SNC in Nigeria.

I only hope that while Ralph is talking this talk, he is also walking this walk, unless all he is after is simply a repeat the Biafran incident. Do not talk if you know you cannot deliver.

Dude you are really shouting yourself hoarse over nothing because my statement should come NATURALLY to any sane and realistic Igbo or Easterner as the only way to deter mass murderers who are warming up to come to Igboland and repeat their genocidal history. People like yourself speaking with forked tongues, scheming our annihilation will NEVER be allowed to succeed.
You are not even intelligent enough to notice that I don't agree with Uwazuruike's methods which I term blowing hot and cold. First he speaks of non-violence, next he threatens war in all parts of Nigeria. Which shall I believe? As far as I'm concerned, in the agitation for a Biafran nation (an African nation), vowing non-violence is almost obtuse IMHO. It is tantamount to losing the psychological war even before the physical war starts. One does not have to commit to non-violence explicity. He could have maintained non-committal either way, at least publicly.

Pray tell, which African country understands non-violent agitations? That is why every other group in Nigeria is pacified and compensated, while MASSOB is simply shot.
One of the problems I see in Uwazurikes methods is that he is adopting an approach used by Mahatma Ghandhi against the BRITISH. Whether you accept it or not, white folks have a deeper level human understanding and they understand things like non-violence and hunger strikes. FACT

Show me anywhere in Africa where a change was obtained using those methods.
So, yes, I believe that the only way for Igbo to ever contemplate fighting another war in Nigeria is to be ready to fight in ALL AND ANY nook of Nigeria. That is the war I would like to fight; not the one they stage in Igboland. Uwazuruike first called on Igbo to return to Igboland. Now he is threatening to fight in all parts of Nigeria. How can he do that when Igbos have already left the North? I see gaps in his position, and we cannot afford to have those gaps. We must NEVER allow history to repeat.
Personally, I would prefer to fight and die in Sokoto or Kano or Maiduguri, than to die in Igboland. That is who I am. Learn to live with it.

That is why I personally would never start a war in Nigeria until I have secured certain level of preparedness and support. That is why I was alarmed by Uwazuruike's outburst.
That is also why I would choose dialogue and negotiation first before any other option.
That is why I add my voice strongly to the agitation for a SNC in Nigeria.

. . dude, I dont give a fvck who you agree or disagree with. You mention Yoruba in your vitriol, expect Negro to be your on throat. While at it. . . I do hope it goes down the wayyou and Uwazurike envision it. . . meanwhile, you are best advised to start reserving forest land in East for mass burials of bodies coming back from Yorubaland, since you see Okitipupa, Akure and other Yoruba land as front for your war.

For heaven sake, when is Nl going to be free of all these tribal rants?

sheyguy:

For heaven sake, when is Nl going to be free of all these tribal rants?

why should it end when a yoruba is in charge. tribalism is like food and water to yorubaman

The only thing missing is the Nigerian section strategy (to bring violation, murder and ethnic cleansing to all parts of Nigeria) which we will perfect before you hear the first gun shot from Biafra. The strategy will see this war in Okitipupa, Ijebu Igbo, Ogbomosho

. . . what do you call this, brotherhood?

Funny thread. Uwazuruike is chasing his own tail - his worst enemy is in his own house. When he was "fighting" in behalf of Abiola's mandate as he claimed, does he not remember what his "leader" Ojukwu was doing? Everyone was ready to go their separate ways in those early Abacha days. If the Igbo had picked up and left, no one could have stopped them, or wanted to. And what did Ojukwu do with this opportunity? He paid a visit to Aso Rock, had a "talk" with Abacha, and returned home claiming the people's (including Igbos) mandate was null, and we should all let Abacha continue. All for a few more plots of land in Lagos.

If I were Uwazuruike, I'd double up my guard protections. There are tons of your clansmen feeding from a corrupt Nigeria, like every other ethnic group. If they suspect your actions are about to take food from their mouths, you know what they are going to try next.

Dudu_Negro:

. . . what do you call this, brotherhood?

An absolutely silly comment! What's the sense in making more "enemies"? Would rather finish the meal on my plate first, than try to eat everything in the pot at a go. BTW, I am just posting my thoughts. . . .I am not your brother in anyway.

Onlytruth:

Ok, I'm back! 


Dude you are really shouting yourself hoarse over nothing because my statement should come NATURALLY to any sane and realistic Igbo or Easterner as the only way to deter mass murderers who are warming up to come to Igboland and repeat their genocidal history. People like yourself speaking with forked tongues, scheming our annihilation will NEVER be allowed to succeed.
You are not even intelligent enough to notice that I don't agree with Uwazuruike's methods which I term blowing hot and cold. First he speaks of non-violence, next he threatens war in all parts of Nigeria. Which shall I believe? As far as I'm concerned, in the agitation for a Biafran nation (an African nation), vowing non-violence is almost obtuse IMHO. It is tantamount to losing the psychological war even before the physical war starts. One does not have to commit to non-violence explicity. He could have maintained non-committal either way, at least publicly.

Show me anywhere in Africa where a change was obtained using those methods. 
So, yes, I believe that the only way for Igbo to ever contemplate fighting another war in Nigeria is to be ready to fight in ALL AND ANY nook of Nigeria. That is the war I would like to fight; not the one they stage in Igboland. Uwazuruike first called on Igbo to return to Igboland. Now he is threatening to fight in all parts of Nigeria. How can he do that when Igbos have already left the North? I see gaps in his position, and we cannot afford to have those gaps. We must NEVER allow history to repeat.
Personally, I would prefer to fight and die in Sokoto or Kano or Maiduguri, than to die in Igboland. That is who I am. Learn to live with it. 

That is why I personally would never start a war in Nigeria until I have secured certain level of preparedness and support. That is why I was alarmed by Uwazuruike's outburst.
That is also why I would choose dialogue and negotiation first before any other option.
That is why I add my voice strongly to the agitation for a SNC in Nigeria.

From my understanding, I guess you mean every Igbo should fight wherever they find themselves? If this is true, then you apparently don't know what WAR is. We are not talking of a riot here for crying out loud! You are talking about years of fighting unending in all parts of the country, that  makes no sense and is just a laughable theory.  To prosecute a War of any sort, you'd require an Army.  Lets look at the definition of the word Army below, gotten from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/army:

1
a, a large organized body of armed personnel trained for war especially on land
b,  a unit capable of independent action and consisting usually of a headquarters, two or more corps, and auxiliary troops
c,   often capitalized : the complete military organization of a nation for land warfare

2,  a great multitude <an army of birds>

3, a body of persons organized to advance a cause

Tell me which of the above mentioned do a bunch of untrained and unarmed "battle ready" civilians army fall into? How would classified data strategic information and intelligence report be passed across, if your strategy entails fighting anywhere you find yourself? IT JUST WONT WORK! We Igbos should all learn to think A LOT and speak little, so we don't end up suffering due to the half baked plans of one man self-elected to speak for us all .

BTW, If you are worried about the possibilities of Igboland facing the heat only . . . . .  There are way more intelligent ways to take the heat to your actual enemies and not everyone else.

An absolutely silly comment! What's the sense in making more "enemies"? Would rather finish the meal on my plate first, than try to eat everything in the pot at a go. BTW, I am just posting my thoughts. . . .I am not your brother in anyway.

. . . boy, sit in the corner and draw with crayon. When I finish addressing your king you can come up and tell me your problem.

Uwazurike makes a statement in response to boko haram and northern mobs murdering igbos and here we have yorubas jumping up and down to chip in their own two cents about what they think about igbos. abi some of una don sign MOU with boko haram and sultan of sokoto. Abeg make we know wetin dey?

Dudu_Negro:

. . . boy, sit in the corner and draw with crayon.  When I finish addressing your king you can come up and tell me your problem.

I'd rather die, than have an argument with someone who is probably just an iq point more intelligent than an ape. BTW, you should have said draw with crayon[b]s[/b] and who the hell starts a sentence with an ellipsis ? You have to be the dumbest adult I have ever met. I am starting to think you were ret@rded as a kid, and just out grew it.

Already the Yorubas that are not being mentioned are already aligning with the Hausas even though they are still not happy with this unholy matrimony. Why dont these people fight for their freedom? They are not serious, if other tribes are not happy, they should fight for their freedom. Their freedom is not with the Ibos. They are hypocrites. You are not happy, you want to leave, you don't want to push for your freedom, you see someone willing to fight for his freedom and you want to oppose him. I don't understand these men

birdman:

Funny thread. Uwazuruike is chasing his own tail - his worst enemy is in his own house. When he was "fighting" in behalf of Abiola's mandate as he claimed, does he not remember what his "leader" Ojukwu was doing? Everyone was ready to go their separate ways in those early Abacha days. If the Igbo had picked up and left, no one could have stopped them, or wanted to. And what did Ojukwu do with this opportunity? He paid a visit to Aso Rock, had a "talk" with Abacha, and returned home claiming the people's (including Igbos) mandate was null, and we should all let Abacha continue. All for a few more plots of land in Lagos.

If I were Uwazuruike, I'd double up my guard protections. There are tons of your clansmen feeding from a corrupt Nigeria, like every other ethnic group. If they suspect your actions are about to take food from their mouths, you know what they are going to try next.

@THE BOLDED God bless you.

Why would Uwazuruike come out in the public to make sensitive statements, reading this makes me question his person. He should know he is a leader and should be careful about the kind of statements he makes. A pragmatic leader quietly works on his plans or objectives rather than shout about it. But wait a minute, It is not only the Ibos that are affected, other ethnic groups are also affected. It baffles me why Northerners would carry out such callous killings. Yet, it is not enough for us all to fight each other or even go to war. We should take a clue from South Africans, they have had their own problems, however, they are still thriving. Many people would blame Sir Luggard for the amalgamation, what if it had worked, what if our leaders were not selfish. The world would envy our diversity, our uniqueness, our culture, our ability to live and thrive together and our economy. This is what we should be preaching about. The North is not the problem of Nigeria, our leaders (past and present) are the problem including Ojukwu. Their decisions costed us a civil war and their decisions is still creating problems.

birdman:

Funny thread. Uwazuruike is chasing his own tail - his worst enemy is in his own house. When he was "fighting" in behalf of Abiola's mandate as he claimed, does he not remember what his "leader" Ojukwu was doing? Everyone was ready to go their separate ways in those early Abacha days. If the Igbo had picked up and left, no one could have stopped them, or wanted to. And what did Ojukwu do with this opportunity? He paid a visit to Aso Rock, had a "talk" with Abacha, and returned home claiming the people's (including Igbos) mandate was null, and we should all let Abacha continue. All for a few more plots of land in Lagos.

If I were Uwazuruike, I'd double up my guard protections. There are tons of your clansmen feeding from a corrupt Nigeria, like every other ethnic group. If they suspect your actions are about to take food from their mouths, you know what they are going to try next.

Food for thought

omosexy1:

Why would Uwazuruike come out in the public to make sensitive statements, reading this makes me question his person. He should know he is a leader and should be careful about the kind of statements he makes. A pragmatic leader quietly works on his plans or objectives rather than shout about it. But wait a minute, It is not only the Ibos that are affected, other ethnic groups are also affected. It baffles me why Northerners would carry out such callous killings. Yet, it is not enough for us all to fight each other or even go to war. We should take a clue from South Africans, they have had their own problems, however, they are still thriving. Many people would blame Sir Luggard for the amalgamation, what if it had worked, what if our leaders were not selfish. The world would envy our diversity, our uniqueness, our culture, our ability to live and thrive together and our economy. This is what we should be preaching about. The North is not the problem of Nigeria, our leaders (past and present) are the problem including Ojukwu. Their decisions costed us a civil war and their decisions is still creating problems.

Thumb up, that's why I like awon omo to sexy lol

omosexy1:

Why would Uwazuruike come out in the public to make sensitive statements, reading this makes me question his person. He should know he is a leader and should be careful about the kind of statements he makes. A pragmatic leader quietly works on his plans or objectives rather than shout about it. Basonut wait a minute, It is not only the Ibos that are affected, other ethnic groups are also affected. It baffles me why Northerners would carry out such callous killings. Yet, it is not enough for us all to fight each other or even go to war. We should take a clue from South Africans, they have had their own problems, however, they are still thriving. Many people would blame Sir Luggard for the amalgamation, what if it had worked, what if our leaders were not selfish. The world would envy our diversity, our uniqueness, our culture, our ability to live and thrive together and our economy. This is what we should be preaching about. The North is not the problem of Nigeria, our leaders (past and present) are the problem including Ojukwu. Their decisions costed us a civil war and their decisions is still creating problems.

Correct! Sensible statement

birdman:

Funny thread. Uwazuruike is chasing his own tail - his worst enemy is in his own house. When he was "fighting" in behalf of Abiola's mandate as he claimed, does he not remember what his "leader" Ojukwu was doing? Everyone was ready to go their separate ways in those early Abacha days. If the Igbo had picked up and left, no one could have stopped them, or wanted to. And what did Ojukwu do with this opportunity? He paid a visit to Aso Rock, had a "talk" with Abacha, and returned home claiming the people's (including Igbos) mandate was null, and we should all let Abacha continue. All for a few more plots of land in Lagos.

Is this true?

If so. . .

^^^^^

Sad to say, but it is very true. This was around the time he also went overseas justifying why Ken Saro-Wiwa should be executed by Abacha. Very Shameful. And that was the period I started having a different perception of Ojukwu from what I'd grown to Idolize through books and stories.

This is my bottom-line: 99% of Nigerian Leaders have always had ulterior motives. Exempt from this (in my opinion) were Murtala Mohammed, Muhammadu Buhari, and Tunde Idiagbon. The rest were never patriots.

The two others I believe had good intentions (but never achieved their aims) were Maj. Nzeogwu and Gideon Orkar. The rest? I'd have a beer with the devil before I believe any trash that came out of their mouths. You can see the results today.

kingoflag:

This is my bottom-line: 99% of Nigerian Leaders have always had ulterior motives. Exempt from this (in my opinion) were Murtala Mohammed, Muhammadu Buhari, and Tunde Idiagbon. The rest were never patriots.

The two others I believe had good intentions (but never achieved their aims) were Maj. Nzeogwu and Gideon Orkar. The rest? I'd have a beer with the devil before I believe any trash that came out of their mouths. You can the result today.

So, why didn't the South support Buhari instead of the clueless entity occupying Aso Rock?

phreakabit:

From my understanding, I guess you mean every Igbo should fight wherever they find themselves? If this is true, then you apparently don't know what WAR is. We are not talking of a riot here for crying out loud! You are talking about years of fighting unending in all parts of the country, that  makes no sense and is just a laughable theory.  To prosecute a War of any sort, you'd require an Army.  Lets look at the definition of the word Army below, gotten from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/army:

1
a, a large organized body of armed personnel trained for war especially on land
b,  a unit capable of independent action and consisting usually of a headquarters, two or more corps, and auxiliary troops
c,   often capitalized : the complete military organization of a nation for land warfare

2,  a great multitude <an army of birds>

3, a body of persons organized to advance a cause

Tell me which of the above mentioned do a bunch of untrained and unarmed "battle ready" civilians army fall into? How would classified data strategic information and intelligence report be passed across, if your strategy entails fighting anywhere you find yourself? IT JUST WONT WORK! We Igbos should all learn to think A LOT and speak little, so we don't end up suffering due to the half baked plans of one man self-elected to speak for us all .

BTW, If you are worried about the possibilities of Igboland facing the heat only . . . . .  There are way more intelligent ways to take the heat to your actual enemies and not everyone else.

You left out the most important CAVEAT from that same quote of mine. Here it is again:

That is why I personally would never start a war in Nigeria until I have secured certain level of preparedness and support. That is why I was alarmed by Uwazuruike's outburst.
That is also why I would choose dialogue and negotiation first before any other option.
That is why I add my voice strongly to the agitation for a SNC in Nigeria.

I am an Ojukwuist is some ways -I am a very reluctant fighter. BUT I believe that thanks to Ojukwu, I am able to tow a completely different line from the one he took. He probably could have taken this same line, but he had no liberty of time and hindsight.  If you study his actions leading to the war, you would know that he never wanted that war. In fact, left for Ojukwu, that war would NEVER have happened, but he was a young man who had no history of Nigeria guide which should guide his choices. The Biafran war was the FIRST in Nigeria. So, Easterners practically pressured him into an unwinnable war. He still fought it gallantly, but I doubt he ever trully believed he could have won (my personal opinion). I share in his reluctance because I would never fight a losing war. NEVER.
The war was lost once Ndigbo ran to the East. Igbo continued presence in the North coupled with a strong voice urging them to stay, could have at least delayed the Nigerian army march into Eastern Nigeria. THERE ARE MANY REASONS for this which I would not discuss here. The way I see it, if you have 3 million Igbos in the whole North, that is almost the size of a country. If Nigeria were to invade  Gabon for instance, would the Gabonese run away simply because Nigeria is 160 million? NO they would fight even if they lose. The mistake we often make is to simply say things like "how can you fight somebody in his land?" Well, firstly these Igbos are almost like natives in the North. Most of them know the place like the back of their hands. They have lived there for decades! They speak the languages, they eat the foods, drink the same water and everything. So they are for all intent and purposes, NATIVES.  

They may not win, but they will buy us some reprieve in the East and help us score easily against the enemy.  Why should the Igbo in the East always suffer for their fellow Igbos in the North who always run home? Who will die for them? I'm laughing. If they found the North so attractive to invest and live there for all these years, they should also be ready to fight and die there. Simple. The Igbo in the East have their hands full with defending Igboland. The whole Biafran army was never more than 40,000 at any one point. Yet, it was a brave army that answered the call of history. BTW how did aboki survive fighting us in our land? If they could do it to us, we could do it to them. This is really simple enough to me.

To summarize, I never said war should be a first option. I also believe that we are still Nigerians, and must defend whereever we live in Nigeria. Until Nigeria is partitioned, and issues of properties settled, I would never support starting a war in Igboland, which would likely end there too.  

Nothing stops our leaders to create an atmosphere of peace. Nothing stops the Imams, Emirs, Sultan and the elite Northerners to call their people together and preach about one Nigeria and the need to stop the killings. Nothing stops Uwazuruike, Ohanaeze and the elites of Ndi'igbo to tell their people to forget about the injustice being perpetrated against them and learn to live at peace with other tribes, nothing also stops the Afenifere, the Obas and the elite Yorubas to also advise their people that there is enormous prosperity to be enjoyed if we continue to co-exist in peace and for the other ethnic group, nothing stops their leaders to preach about peace and forgiveness. Also, our political leaders too should show good leadership by implementing programs that will increase the standard of living in the country. A man who is busy working and earning a living in an environment or country that encourages him would not engage in discussion of secession or throwing of bombs or engaging in war. Our religious leaders too have a big role to play, rather than run their organisations as a business venture, they too should teach and show peace by exemplifying themselves to be peaceful, because in our tongue we may be different but in our religion or spirituality we share similarities. Because if we go to war, who suffers, not the British, not the Americans, not even the Ghanaian but we Nigerians and guess who would be laughing at us, the rest of the world. War is not the only way to solve "The Nigerian Problem" but it is the most expensive way that will never solve "The Nigerian Problem".

RichyBlacK:

So, why didn't the South support Buhari instead of the clueless entity occupying Aso Rock?

I doubt Im in a position to accurately answer that question; everyday I realize more and more that I'm not that in sync with the "Nigerian" way of thinking. Personally, I attribute it to Tribalism, Bigotry and overall Ignorance of their rights. These, I believe are what Nigerians suffer from the most when making Political decisions.

@POST

This dude is mouthing off like a Yoruba and he is getting me irritated. Go to war, go to war, yet he and his group do not have an AK-47 caved in wood.

Dudu_Negro:



. . dude, I dont give a fvck who you agree or disagree with. You mention Yoruba in your vitriol, expect Negro to be your on throat. While at it. . . I do hope it goes down the wayyou and Uwazurike envision it. . . meanwhile, you are best advised to start reserving forest land in East for mass burials of bodies coming back from Yorubaland, since you see Okitipupa, Akure and other Yoruba land as front for your war.

It appears you have lost gigantic value of human decency. Do you realize what war is all about? Nigeria and Republic of Benin are not the same country an instance that does not debar the citizens of these countries to pursue happiness in each others country.

Disintegrated Nigeria does not signal all out war among emerging nation states or encourage acts of ethnic cleansing. I do not think you want a country that will be conquered in a day after declaration of independence due to moronic utterance from putrid mouths such as yours. I suggest you take a good look at the atlas, olodo.

Onlytruth:

You left out the most important CAVEAT from that same quote of mine. Here it is again:

I am an Ojukwuist is some ways -I am a very reluctant fighter. BUT I believe that thanks to Ojukwu, I am able to tow a completely different line from the one he took. He probably could have taken this same line, but he had no liberty of time and hindsight.  If you study his actions leading to the war, you would know that he never wanted that war. In fact, left for Ojukwu, that war would NEVER have happened, but he was a young man who had no history of Nigeria guide which should guide his choices. The Biafran war was the FIRST in Nigeria. So, Easterners practically pressured him into an unwinnable war. He still fought it gallantly, but I doubt he ever trully believed he could have won (my personal opinion). I share in his reluctance because I would never fight a losing war. NEVER.
The war was lost once Ndigbo ran to the East. Igbo continued presence in the North coupled with a strong voice urging them to stay, could have at least delayed the Nigerian army march into Eastern Nigeria. THERE ARE MANY REASONS for this which I would not discuss here. The way I see it, if you have 3 million Igbos in the whole North, that is almost the size of a country. If Nigeria were to invade  Gabon for instance, would the Gabonese run away simply because Nigeria is 160 million? NO they would fight even if they lose. The mistake we often make is to simply say things like "how can you fight somebody in his land?" Well, firstly these Igbos are almost like natives in the North. Most of them know the place like the back of their hands. They have lived there for decades! They speak the languages, they eat the foods, drink the same water and everything. So they are for all intent and purposes, NATIVES.  

They may not win, but they will buy us some reprieve in the East and help us score easily against the enemy.  Why should the Igbo in the East always suffer for their fellow Igbos in the North who always run home? Who will die for them? I'm laughing. If they found the North so attractive to invest and live there for all these years, they should also be ready to fight and die there. Simple. The Igbo in the East have their hands full with defending Igboland. The whole Biafran army was never more than 40,000 at any one point. Yet, it was a brave army that answered the call of history. BTW how did aboki survive fighting us in our land? If they could do it to us, we could do it to them. This is really simple enough to me.
To summarize, I never said war should be a first option. I also believe that we are still Nigerians, and must defend whereever we live in Nigeria. Until Nigeria is partitioned, and issues of properties settled, I would never support starting a war in Igboland, which would likely end there too.  

My brother, I beg to disagree with you here @ the bolded. Aboki (and the rest of nigeria) were able to fight Ndigbo in Igboland because of world power support,,,SIMPLE FACT! Remember Murtala Mohammed was itching to take the north out of nigeria until the british convinced him of backing and support for the north's control of nigeria. He(Murtala) was also itching to march to the east, but was advised against it until british arms, egyptian air personnel had arrived. So, please, lets put things in proper perspective; Easterners lost the war because of absence of a world power support. Imagine if we had Israeli pilots providing aerial bombarment of nigerian troops, nigerian civillians and territories like Lagos, kano et. al, the war would have been in favour of Biafrans in less than 6mths.
Again, this idea of Igbo remaining in the north will only be a good one if it's well co-ordinated from the homeland,,,,by this I mean all Igbo leaders must be involved in this, as this will require some form of clandestine military training for the men who will be staying put in the north. I was one of those opposed to Igbo remaining in the north, but after your reasons, I had a change of heart, but Eze, Igbo remaining in the north has to be well co-ordinated, even in conjuction with a secret military training pact with an XYZ country (this is were MASSOB has failed woefully). I have a lot to write here but I won't for some reasons best known to me. Anyway, remind me again of that email to reach you at.

Onlytruth:

You left out the most important CAVEAT from that same quote of mine. Here it is again:

I am an Ojukwuist is some ways -I am a very reluctant fighter. BUT I believe that thanks to Ojukwu, I am able to tow a completely different line from the one he took. He probably could have taken this same line, but he had no liberty of time and hindsight.  If you study his actions leading to the war, you would know that he never wanted that war. In fact, left for Ojukwu, that war would NEVER have happened, but he was a young man who had no history of Nigeria guide which should guide his choices. The Biafran war was the FIRST in Nigeria. So, Easterners practically pressured him into an unwinnable war. He still fought it gallantly, but I doubt he ever trully believed he could have won (my personal opinion). I share in his reluctance because I would never fight a losing war. NEVER.
The war was lost once Ndigbo ran to the East. Igbo continued presence in the North coupled with a strong voice urging them to stay, could have at least delayed the Nigerian army march into Eastern Nigeria. THERE ARE MANY REASONS for this which I would not discuss here. The way I see it, if you have 3 million Igbos in the whole North, that is almost the size of a country. If Nigeria were to invade  Gabon for instance, would the Gabonese run away simply because Nigeria is 160 million? NO they would fight even if they lose. The mistake we often make is to simply say things like "how can you fight somebody in his land?" Well, firstly these Igbos are almost like natives in the North. Most of them know the place like the back of their hands. They have lived there for decades! They speak the languages, they eat the foods, drink the same water and everything. So they are for all intent and purposes, NATIVES.  

They may not win, but they will buy us some reprieve in the East and help us score easily against the enemy.  Why should the Igbo in the East always suffer for their fellow Igbos in the North who always run home? Who will die for them? I'm laughing. If they found the North so attractive to invest and live there for all these years, they should also be ready to fight and die there. Simple. The Igbo in the East have their hands full with defending Igboland. The whole Biafran army was never more than 40,000 at any one point. Yet, it was a brave army that answered the call of history. BTW how did aboki survive fighting us in our land? If they could do it to us, we could do it to them. This is really simple enough to me.

To summarize, I never said war should be a first option. I also believe that we are still Nigerians, and must defend whereever we live in Nigeria. Until Nigeria is partitioned, and issues of properties settled, I would never support starting a war in Igboland, which would likely end there too.  

first of all its a bloody lie that all the ethnic groups of the east supported biafra or pressured ojukwu into war. Igbo does not equal easterner okay !!!!

if they all did , why did the ijaws lead federal troops in driving out the biafran army from their lands . even many of the other minorities were split with some against biafra and their soldiers fought on the federal side. and lets not talk about the attrocities committed by igbos against minorities.

u wanted to appropriate minority land and resource , thats why u got your Bottom kicked. so Bleep off. if u had allowed negotiations to conclude and allowed negotiations to reach their end there would have never been a war and you could have gone off by urself. instead you wannted to build igbo empire.

It appears you have lost gigantic value of human decency. Do you realize what war is all about? Nigeria and Republic of Benin are not the same country an instance that does not debar the citizens of these countries to pursue happiness in each others country.

Disintegrated Nigeria does not signal all out war among emerging nation states or encourage acts of ethnic cleansing. I do not think you want a country that will be conquered in a day after declaration of independence due to moronic utterance from putrid mouths such as yours. I suggest you take a good look at the atlas, olodo.

. . . . I knew you would soon show up, I wonder why it took so long! I'm very upset at both of your Ezes. . . the one leadeing MASSOB and the one leading you in NL. You need to coach them to use tact in their utterances. You rascal!