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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:33pm On Sep 15, 2014
Seems 4-4-2 diamond is our new formation. U21 played same 2nite against S'land which ended 4-0; Januzaj got a hattrick while Pereira scored the remaining. Shaw and Anderson were in the starting line-up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:54pm On Sep 15, 2014
coogar:

3-5-2 gives us more control in the midfield - van gaal might revert to it when his defenders become fit again. there shouldn't have been any problem with the system if only smalling, jones and evans have the composure of the young tyler blackett!

Yes it gives more control in midfield but without real penetration. In attack it can work only if Di Maria is one of the 2 in attack IMO.
And as you just acknowledged we don't have the personnel at the back to play it. Those guys at the back are not comfortable on the ball enough for the 3-5-2.
We now have the personnel to play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 and these 2 formations give us both CONTROL in midfield(in advanced areas rather than 3-5-2 where most of our control is deep in our half) and PENETRATION.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:09pm On Sep 15, 2014
afrodoc2:

Yes it gives more control in midfield but without real penetration. In attack it can work only if Di Maria is one of the 2 in attack IMO.
And as you just acknowledged we don't have the personnel at the back to play it. Those guys at the back are not comfortable on the ball enough for the 3-5-2.

we didn't have the personnel cos we had zombies like evans, valencia, fletcher, jones stinking up the place....rafael alone gives us 40% penetration. i think LVG should buy fabio back......rafael needs a back up & the twin brother is the only one that is cheap & won't throw tantrums for being on the bench...

none of smalling or valencia has 1/10th of rafael's IQ. jones is too clumsy to play that role too. if rafael gets injured, we would revert back to the laboured performance we have seen earlier in the season. there's nothing wrong with the system, it's just that we have too many players in that defence that loves to hide.


We now have the personnel to play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 and these 2 formations give us both CONTROL in midfield(in advanced areas rather than 3-5-2 where most of our control is deep in our half) and PENETRATION.

4-4-2 will easily be exposed if we meet a team with a solid 4-2-3-1 like chelsea or city(when they mean business). their 5-man midfield would swallow our middle 4 and once they get control of the midfield, we are toast! evans scares me & it seems jones/smalling cannot go through a season without picking an injury.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:22pm On Sep 15, 2014
coogar:

we didn't have the personnel cos we had zombies like evans, valencia, fletcher, jones stinking up the place....rafael alone gives us 40% penetration. i think LVG should buy fabio back......rafael needs a back up & the twin brother is the only one that is cheap & won't throw tantrums for being on the bench...

none of smalling or valencia has 1/10th of rafael's IQ. jones is too clumsy to play that role too. if rafael gets injured, we would revert back to the laboured performance we have seen earlier in the season. there's nothing wrong with the system, it's just that we have too many players in that defence that loves to hide.



4-4-2 will easily be exposed if we meet a team with a solid 4-2-3-1 like chelsea or city(when they mean business). their 5-man midfield would swallow our middle 4 and once they get control of the midfield, we are toast! evans scares me & it seems jones/smalling cannot go through a season without picking an injury.

If according to you Jones,Smalling and Evans can not play in the 3 man defense that leaves the left footed trio of Blackett,Rojo and Blind, i don't think that is ideal.....and if one gets injured who comes in. ALL our players are comfortable playing the 4 man defense....there is no confusion as to duties.
If we persist with 3-5-2 we will lose too many easy points early in the season and by the time the players understand the formation we will be playing catch up on Spurs,Arsenal,City,Liverpool e.t.c WE NEED TO GRAB THE CHEAP POINTS AVAILABLE IN THESE EASY MATCHES.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:34pm On Sep 15, 2014
afrodoc2:
If according to you Jones,Smalling and Evans can not play in the 3 man defense that leaves the left footed trio of Blackett,Rojo and Blind, i don't think that is ideal.....and if one gets injured who comes in. ALL our players are comfortable playing the 4 man defense....there is no confusion as to duties.

they can play there, it's just that it's taking them too long to adapt.....fletcher didn't make it easy for them too against burnley, he never showed for the ball. watch blind & herrera yesterday, they were always coming towards the defence to receive the ball & they turn with one touch to release the ball - vertical passes to the players ahead, no frills no thrills.


If we persist with 3-5-2 we will lose too many easy points early in the season and by the time the players understand the formation we will be playing catch up on Spurs,Arsenal,City,Liverpool e.t.c WE NEED TO GRAB THE CHEAP POINTS AVAILABLE IN THESE EASY MATCHES.

i think we have everton at OT before we face chelsea. 4-4-2 would be the default in the other 3 games against the smaller teams but that everton/chelsea game might change in terms of tactical formation. chelsea/everton would crowd out our 4-4-2 formation....that's mourinho's way.

3-5-2 formation can work if we do this....

-------------de gea----------
---smalling---jones---rojo---
--rafael--herrera--blind--shaw--
-------------di maria-------------
---------falcao---rooney---------
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:03pm On Sep 15, 2014
coogar:

they can play there, it's just that it's taking them too long to adapt.....fletcher didn't make it easy for them too against burnley, he never showed for the ball. watch blind & herrera yesterday, they were always coming towards the defence to receive the ball & they turn with one touch to release the ball - vertical passes to the players ahead, no frills no thrills.



i think we have everton at OT before we face chelsea. 4-4-2 would be the default in the other 3 games against the smaller teams but that everton/chelsea game might change in terms of tactical formation. chelsea/everton would crowd out our 4-4-2 formation....that's mourinho's way.

3-5-2 formation can work if we do this....

-------------de gea----------
---smalling---jones---rojo---
--rafael--herrera--blind--shaw--
-------------di maria-------------
---------falcao---rooney---------
one of smalling or jones has to drop for blackett, there must be good reason for him to be displaced. i like di Maria from the sides more, there are two opposing players on the wings at a time & its easier to ghost in from there than against a crowded centre. mata retains his place easily for now/
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by igbsam(m): 11:11pm On Sep 15, 2014
New is getting stronger...now addidas is involved. Ronaldo is one of addidas face.

Kit suppliers Adidas ready to help in push to re-sign Real Madrid star.

Man United are keen to step up their push to re-sign Real Madrid attacker Cristiano Ronaldo as speculation grows as to the Portuguese star's future at the Bernabeu.

It is believed that the 29 year old is unhappy at Spanish giants and is apparently open to a return to the Premier League and a move back to Old Trafford appears the most likely to tempt Ronaldo.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:26pm On Sep 15, 2014
SailorXY:
one of smalling or jones has to drop for blackett, there must be good reason for him to be displaced. i like di Maria from the sides more, there are two opposing players on the wings at a time & its easier to ghost in from there than against a crowded centre. mata retains his place easily for now/

i dunno if van gaal would prefer blackett against teams that would bombard us with aerial invasion - i am yet to assess blackett in that aspect but he's very very comfortable with the ball at his feet - he's too composed for his age, he reminds me of young rio ferdinand.

against the tough teams, we need gorillas like jones & smalling. they may not be too good with ball at their feet but they compensate for it with being able to compete with lukaku, costa, dzeko, balotelli, etc in the air & dominate! senderos literally räped balotelli on saturday - he frustrated him completely till balotelli was subbed.

shaw & rafael would provide the added width. di maria has the license to roam from that position & take up any position he wants. we have 3 in the midfield with the hassling ability of rafael & shaw buzzing around the oppoonents. it's a formation that can work very well. daley blind will take pressure off our zombie defenders who aren't comfy in possession.

igbsam: New is getting stronger...now addidas is involved. Ronaldo is one of addidas face.
Kit suppliers Adidas ready to help in push to re-sign Real Madrid star.
Man United are keen to step up their push to re-sign Real Madrid attacker Cristiano Ronaldo as speculation grows as to the Portuguese star's future at the Bernabeu.
It is believed that the 29 year old is unhappy at Spanish giants and is apparently open to a return to the Premier League and a move back to Old Trafford appears the most likely to tempt Ronaldo.

guillem balagué has been on it - he seems to be the bearer of good news to united this year. the fee is £60m, the wage is £310k per week. cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:29pm On Sep 15, 2014
this Ronaldo cant happen before the summer, why is it causing so much stir yet undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:39pm On Sep 15, 2014
SailorXY: this Ronaldo cant happen before the summer, why is it causing so much stir yet undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

man utd are adidas' new bride.....ronaldo is adidas' first son. they are trying to bring the prodigal son back to his father's house. grin

it could happen in january. ronaldo & florentino perez are in a war of words. the sale of ozil, alonso & now di maria is killing ronaldo.

messi gets to keep the technicians that will get him 70 goals a season while madrid keep selling all the top assist makers in the last 2-3 seasons thus causing a dip in ronaldo's total output.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Brisingr(m): 7:27am On Sep 16, 2014
SailorXY: this Ronaldo cant happen before the summer, why is it causing so much stir yet undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Won't happen period. Madrid will never let it happen i don't no why Man utd fans will not move on.
guillem balagué is this not the guy that missed all his transfer predictions ? And his the source of this news.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:20am On Sep 16, 2014
Brisingr:
Won't happen period. Madrid will never let it happen i don't no why Man utd fans will not move on.
guillem balagué is this not the guy that missed all his transfer predictions ? And his the source of this news.
if Ronaldo is bent on leaving, Madrid can't do nothing 'bout it. the player power these days cannot be over-emphasized! its not by Man United fans moving on or not, the guy spits Manchester before he yawns every blessed morning - the board in Manchester is also open for the deal - adidas & Mendez are also pushy on the matter; it can only lead to an inevitable point undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:31am On Sep 16, 2014
SailorXY:
one of smalling or jones has to drop for blackett, there must be good reason for him to be displaced. i like di Maria from the sides more, there are two opposing players on the wings at a time & its easier to ghost in from there than against a crowded centre. mata retains his place easily for now/
I can bet my life that formation won't work in EPL. Maybe against an attacking side which we know is not upto 20% of the clubs in the league. It lacks width and penetration, that's why it's also slow, which you need most in EPL before ball possession.
Wigan tried it and were relegated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:35am On Sep 16, 2014
Let us focus on this season sha, the outcome of this season is more important than any Ronaldo news. If things continue to collapse at a Moyes rate even Ronaldo would not want to come..........so let us take care of business and the Ronaldos of this year and the Ronaldos of the next 10yrs will be at our beck and call.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YoungDaNaval(m): 9:50am On Sep 16, 2014
Any Team With 4-3-3 Will Find It Easy To Beat Man U As Long As LVG Continue With His 3-5-2 Rubbish Formation. Suffering Rafael Since 200BC! Even Playing Falcoa In Midfield? Chai, Ah Dey Laugh Una Sha. Itz Nat By Beating Weak Club Like QPR Ooh!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:56am On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Any Team With 4-3-3 Will Find It Easy To Beat Man U As Long As LVG Continue With His 3-5-2 Rubbish Formation. Suffering Rafael Since 200BC! Even Playing Falcoa In Midfield? Chai, Ah Dey Laugh Una Sha. Itz Nat By Beating Weak Club Like QPR Ooh!
Chelsea won 95% of games against the top 5 teams last season and they fumbled against a lot of weak clubs.......reason they lost the league...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YoungDaNaval(m): 10:04am On Sep 16, 2014
lekkie073: Chelsea won 95% of games against the top 5 teams last season and they fumbled against a lot of weak clubs.......reason they lost the league...
Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YoungDaNaval(m): 10:05am On Sep 16, 2014
lekkie073: Chelsea won 95% of games against the top 5 teams last season and they fumbled against a lot of weak clubs.......reason they lost the league...
Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Brisingr(m): 10:13am On Sep 16, 2014
SailorXY:
if Ronaldo is bent on leaving, Madrid can't do nothing 'bout it. the player power these days cannot be over-emphasized! its not by Man United fans moving on or not, the guy spits Manchester before he yawns every blessed morning - the board in Manchester is also open for the deal - adidas & Mendez are also pushy on the matter; it can only lead to an inevitable point undecided
I wonder where all this speculation will run to when Madrid starts winning again.
We have forgotten he left us for his dream club.
Most of Ronaldo's remark are just fond rememberance of the Club he made his name.This what the media is using as Source.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:13am On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right??
Ok, you'll win it.

Happy now? smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:23am On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right??

You guys failed to beat the same qpr at home
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dhellake: 10:25am On Sep 16, 2014
What's all this talks about Ronaldo and Adidas? Ronaldo is a Nike ambassador, Maybe Adiddas can will you Messi

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YoungDaNaval(m): 10:26am On Sep 16, 2014
dopeJemi:

You guys failed to beat the same qpr at home
You Guys? Who Specifically Are You Talking Abt?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 4llerbuntu(m): 11:33am On Sep 16, 2014
FLOURISH BRETHREN cool cool cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 11:41am On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: You Guys? Who Specifically Are You Talking Abt?

Chelsea

If you are not a fan, no problem
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:45am On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right??
wetin this one dey yan sef?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:07pm On Sep 16, 2014

this image button is almost useless, hardly works faa

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:09pm On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Oh Really? That Means Man United's Gonna Win The League Just Like Your Loose Van Girl Stated After Victory Over QPR Which Just Came Outta Relegation Right??

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by YoungDaNaval(m): 12:09pm On Sep 16, 2014
dopeJemi:

Chelsea

If you are not a fan, no problem
Im Arsenal Fan
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 12:13pm On Sep 16, 2014
Starboarrrrrrrrdddddddddddd....

You fvcking fvcker....

I heard you just got out on parole.

How was life in kirirkiri?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:16pm On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Im Arsenal Fan

arsenal fan? pssssssssf!
of all the clubs out there, you chose arsenal? how can you support a club that has the word arsë in it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 12:28pm On Sep 16, 2014
YoungDaNaval: Im Arsenal Fan

Okay!

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