ollah1:



Spending power?? This is really funny.

What stopped him from spending like others?
Did barca spend more money in luring player than utd during that era?
Barca did few marquee signings, in few seasons.

Absolutely nothing stopped fergie from been a Lord in europe. He ought to have been the manage to have bagged home loads of European trophies.

Lucky man won one in 99 in the dying minutes and waited another half century before winning another.

He was simply a local champion.

ollah1:


What made Chelsea sack boas?? He simply had issues with the big boys. What made pep succeed in barca? ? He sold out the big boys

SIRcumalot:

So that is the only reason ?
Enrique no sabi reach boas talkless of fergie but if you believe he is better no wahala.

ollah1:


Why didn't he win it prior to that period?

ollah1:

Why does he have two ucl in 25 years?

ollah1:


What made Chelsea sack boas?? He simply had issues with the big boys. What made pep succeed in barca? ? He sold out the big boys

elampiro:


Barca that were able to sign Ballon D'or winners? You mean they didn't spend much? AC Milan, Madrid, Barca and Juventus were the teams that had the money to spend. The best foreign players went to these teams. English league didn't rebrand early enough to open/attract foreign players.

tess1:


He was sacked because of poor results. Which big boys dey Roma?

elampiro:


Where were you in 1999?



This has been explained to you over and over. Do you even know what it meant to take over a relation haunted team and turn it to a permanent champion?

ollah1:


He was benching Totti and that influenced the dressing room which resulted to losses. Why did Pep sell all the big boys first when he got to Barca?
Why did Mou let Raul and Guti leave when he got to Madrid? They all know what the possible outcome would be if they were in their teams

ollah1:


lol Barca never signed any Balon D'or winner. They all won Balon D'or at barca. Get your facts right.

ollah1:


What was the reason?
I didn't say Enrique is better than them both but is it quite great for a coach to win two UCL in 25 years with one team? Answer in fairness

ollah1:


Nothing was explained. There is absolute no explantation for a coach to win just 2 UCL in 25 years with same team.

Fergie was a local champion.
That is the hard core fact

tess1:


Lol! I thought you said big BOYS. It is now big BOY Totti.

Even at that, Pep also sold some big boys and at the same time got results. Why didn`t Enrique get results despite having issue with only one big boy? There should be other young players that should be taking positions.

ollah1:


Nothing was explained. There is absolute no explantation for a coach to win just 2 UCL in 25 years with same team.

Fergie was a local champion.
That is the hard core fact

elampiro:


So what do you say about these long serving coaches who won nothing in Europe?

1. Ronnie McFall, Portadown FC (Northern Ireland).

29 years still counting. Employed same year as SAF



(2) Arsène Wenger, Arsenal FC (England)

19 years still counting.



(3) Thomas Schaaf, SV Werder Bremen (Germany)

14 years at Werder Bremen first team.

tess1:


You know nothing about football management.

You think it`s really easy for a coach to be at a mid or lower table club for even ten years not to talk of being at a top club for that period.

Mention any club in europe top teams that has the same coach for at least ten years except Arsenal.

It is even a credit to him to have stayed for that long and won those trophies he won.

ollah1:


Ain't one Big Boy enough to influence the dressing room.. Totti to Roma as Gerrard is to Liverpool. You have issues with them then its trouble.

tess1:


Why wasn`t Mourinho sacked when he allowed Lampard to go? Or is it that Lampard wasn`t a big boy at Chelsea?

ollah1:


Look up, a member already answered the question regarding longevity of a coach in a team.

No one said its easy but its a poor result for Fergie. Accept that fact, two ucl in 25 years..

He is a local champion.

FACT!!

ollah1:


You know the answer to that question. Who besides Mou would do that in Chelsea?

raumdeuter:
Ferguson is a good coach but he still has his superiors in coaching

Winning 2 CL titles in 26yrs with the same team is poor

ollah1:


lol. You are very funny ooo i swear down.

1. Northern Ireland is a country and its not a football nation, you deal with the materials you have.
2. Is wenger a coach or an accountant?
3. You wanna compare Werder Bremen to United?

Nihilist:


I remember when Coogar made the exact same argument about Moyes.

Coogar's argument that period was that Moyes failure to beat any of the top 4 after 11 attempts was the epitome of failure...

The post garnered several likes...

I personally do not think that Ferguson was poor in Europe though...Manyoo was a continental force that competed every year

tess1:


Local champion! And he qualified the team to UCL final three times in how many years only to be beaten twice. by a Barca team that has been described as the best team of the past few years. A team that hasn`t lost any UCL final in the past 10/11 years.

A local champion will never even take a team beyond the group stages.

elampiro:
You were the one who brought years of stay at one club.

Arsene Wenger spent higher than SAF in late 1990s and around 2000-2002.

tess1:


So, it`s only Mourinho that could do that.

What about a Rookie Pep doing same in his first season with him not getting sacked?

raumdeuter:
Ferguson is a good coach but he still has his superiors in coaching

Winning 2 CL titles in 26yrs with the same team is poor maybe not poor but just average

lekkie073:
in his time, he had no superior IMO but u can enlighten me by naming a few......dont name d likes of mourinho enrique pep etc because they r not his mates...they were still playing when he was inbhis prime

raumdeuter:


Maybe not poor but average

Consider that Man Utd was one of the richest clubs in Europe. Most of the time countries had 1 or 2 participants In Europe how many tier 1 and 2 football nation say 7. So Man Utd is one of 14 clubs who would compete every season

If I am given a team who has the riches of Man Utd and the type of free hand Fergie has. In 20yrs I would win more than 4 CL

elampiro:


You saw only riches but forgot the debts.

raumdeuter:


His number 1 superior Ottmar Hitzfeld. You can try refute it