Diademk07:


[s]You left out Ibra who replaced Rashford in the starting lineup or the likes of CBj, Varela who had left while TFM has hardly seen any game time.

And who's running around like a headless chicken? You mean the best CM in the league last season? An integral part of Leicester winning team?
Kante is more of a CM than that box-box cum attacking midfielder wannabe we have though. A pity Chelsea keeps deploying him as a DM when he's at his best as a box-box.[/s]

AdisaOwala:
Kagawa10, I can see that your LVG madness don start again...

Since you are hell Bent on Defending him, can you tell us why Phil Jones took corners for us two seasons ago?

AdisaOwala:
Kagawa10, I can see that your LVG madness don start again...

Since you are hell Bent on Defending him, can you tell us why Phil Jones took corners for us two seasons ago?

SailorXY:
or playing Young as CF, Martial as LWF, Mata as RW, Rooney as CMF & Lingard as AMF all same time same game. The only thing he didn't do was playing de Gea as an outfielder. hehehe I'm sure no Man United fan ever thought they'd witness such insanity in their lifetime.

SailorXY:
Rashford knows he has a better shot @ the UCL trophy this season than actually joining Arsenal. One billion players has played in the UCL, how many fingers have touched the ultimate prize?

You better goan bring £45m & collect Phil Jones - that's if Jones won't mind a trophyless career henceforth. Once the window shuts, I pity Wenger this season.

Diademk07:


That's because Jose is weeding them away.

Rashford is a legit though. His performance for England already shows he's a talented player and if Mourinho hadn't come, he would have been the no 1 striker. I'm firmly of the opinion that he has more potential than Kane if developed the right way..

The likes of Varela, TFM, CBJ, Poole etc would have been fully involved this season if Van gaal had stayed.. Because they've all grown a year older and has had the little experience to back up their play due to their exposure last season.

Furthermore, all these aforementioned players get the basic right such as solid first touch, solid decision making when passing and good movement which is what impresses Van gaal the most.

Spy360:
I would be depressed if I don't get a CL grouping.

DrinkWater10:

bullocks
so your cbj would have benched luke shaw, Regan Poole would have benched smalling and bally, timothy fosu Mensah would have benched fellaini or Valencia in the dmf and Right back positions respectively same for 23 year old guliermo varela?
the class of 92 will never repeat itself youth players don't win you titles even benfica and Porto understands this.
How many la masia graduates after busquetts have walked straight into the barca firth eleven?

Diademk07:


Poole could have benched Carrick. He was already part of the first team squad at just 17yrs old and already made a cameo.

And when I said fully involved, I mean being given plenty of game time. There's no way the likes of Shaw et al could have played all the games available.

I'm quite sure Varela would have given Valencia a good competition because he's more technically sound as opposed to the kick and run version of Valencia. Also, he's got the ability to not only make fantastic crossing but also, superb throughballs.

He's defensively solid as well except for the few positioning lapse he had vs Liverpool in the Europa and that was due to his inexperience. For crying out loud, Varela and Rashford were our best players in the few games he played last season.

How can people forget these thing easily?

And don't make laugh at your Benfica and Porto jokes. You mean clubs who has had the likes of renato, Oliver Torres, inexperienced Casiemiro, James Rodriguez et al playing for them?

You asked how many La Masia graduated after Busquets? Munir is one. Barca also gave chances to the likes of Pedro, Tello, Bojan Krikc to claim their spot till they all showed they aint good enough for them.

I'm quite sure if Pep/Van Gaal/Rij kaard who promoted the likes of Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Busquets were still there, more would have been promoted BTW. Without these aforementioned people, the dominant Barca era wouldn't have existed just the same way the dominant Bayern who made 3 CL finals in 4yrs wouldn't have existed either.

DrinkWater10:

Varela cannot bench darmian talkless of valencia.
Regan Poole is not a DM so he cannot play in Carrick's position.
when last did munir start five competitive games on the trout for FCB.

eph12:
I asked someone to mention just one top team in Europe that has up to 3 starters from the youth team and I never heard from him again.

I am not like Diadem and Co that argue all day, once I see the argument is heading to a stale mate I move.

But if you decide to drag me back feeling some kind of superiority think again .
They don't necessarily have to be starters, just Quality players that ply trade in topflight but you can take a good look at Messi xavi and Iniesta .


Or Lahm Muller and ex Swinesteger.

eph12:
I asked someone to mention just one top team in Europe that has up to 3 starters from the youth team and I never heard from him again. .

raumdeuter:


Barcelona - Pique Alba Iniesta Busquets Messi

Bayern - Hummels, Lahm, Alaba, Muller

eph12:

Guy leave me abeg

Diademk07:




De Gea HARDLY MADE ANY SAVES vs ARSENAL for example and the youth played in that particular game?...

Diademk07:


I think you should stop quoting me first and foremost because I have yet to see any sense in any piece of yours. Ever!

raumdeuter:


Barcelona - Pique Alba Iniesta Busquets Messi

Bayern - Hummels, Lahm, Alaba, Muller

Wingback:


I am not like Diadem and Co that argue all day, once I see the argument is heading to a stale mate I move.

But if you decide to drag me back feeling some kind of superiority think again .
They don't necessarily have to be starters, just Quality players that ply trade in topflight but you can take a good look at Messi xavi and Iniesta .


Or Lahm Muller and ex Swinesteger.

DrinkWater10:

Varela cannot bench darmian talkless of valencia.
Regan Poole is not a DM so he cannot play in Carrick's position.
when last did munir start five competitive games on the trout for FCB.

Funlordjnr:





So true! No wonder we collected 3-0 at the emirates and escaped with a 3-2 scorline in old trafford in which they created more chances than us!


Conceding 5 goals against an average title rival is down to superb coaching tactics plus solid youth involvement I guess!

eph12:

Barcelona were lucky with the messi xavi Iniesta break just as we were lucky with Scholes Giggs Neville. Barca would struggle to replace any of those 3 especially Iniesta and messi.
Same thing with bayern. They had their break and they enjoyed it. To replace those guys they will most likely spend millions and try a few reserve before they finally get it right and it won't even come close to.

Wingback:


This is why I was trying to avoid the argument. Weren't you the one that asked for examples, I didn't even get it right but the winger raundeter guy came in. Abeg go sleep.

Do you know anyone in their academy, his stats? Look at Ajax they rely mainly on youth system and they flourished in it. Athletic Bilbao or something like that uses Spanish players mostly and they have been holding their own in top flight.


2 types of club...Money or Youth
City or United. And so far United will need the money route if it hopes for anything this decade.

DrinkWater10:
Come and buy Phil Jones for £40million and 1 pound only!

SIRcumalot:
Leicester and spurs suppose fit top their respective UCL groups

SIRcumalot:
Leicester and spurs suppose fit top their respective UCL groups

Wingback:


This is why I was trying to avoid the argument. Weren't you the one that asked for examples, I didn't even get it right but the winger raundeter guy came in. Abeg go sleep.

Do you know anyone in their academy, his stats? Look at Ajax they rely mainly on youth system and they flourished in it. Athletic Bilbao or something like that uses Spanish players mostly and they have been holding their own in top flight.


2 types of club...Money or Youth
City or United. And so far United will need the money route if it hopes for anything this decade.