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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mikeywise(m): 1:34pm On Aug 20, 2014
eyah....

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:37pm On Aug 20, 2014
Ed should hrow in a bid of £20m - £25m for Javier Mascherano? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:38pm On Aug 20, 2014
When Nani was Nani..... We will miss you!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:44pm On Aug 20, 2014
RuuDie:

A fvcking PITBULL thats what... a downright mean, tenacious, blood-curdling mother0fvcker. I don't even care if he can kick the ball or play a simple pass - if he can kick the opponents with clean, deadly accuracy and break some limbs every now and then; that will suit me just fine!
Heck, Vidal don't even cut it for me; Rojo fits the profile small - I will come up with other names!
this no be world war squad oo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:50pm On Aug 20, 2014
Manchester United were turned down by Thomas Muller and Marco Reus this summer after both players rejected big money moves to Old Trafford in favour of staying with their respective clubs.

In an interview with German newspaper Bild, World Cup winner Muller revealed that he turned down a lucrative offer from United to stay with Bayern Munich.

"Of course. I was aware that I could earn more by making that transfer, the amount that foreign clubs were offering me was astronomical. But Bayern are my club, a change was not an issue for me."

Borussia Dortmund's Reus also turned down the chance to move to Old Trafford this summer, at least according to Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo.

Whilst denying reports regarding his own club's alleged attempted to sign the winger, Cerezo as saying, "I don’t know where the Marco Reus rumour came from. It’s a player who, at this time, is impossible to us. He had an offer for a lot of money from Manchester United and he has not gone… we will not sign him with a lesser offer."

[Source: Bild, M.E.N, Daily Mail]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:50pm On Aug 20, 2014
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:04pm On Aug 20, 2014
elampiro: Rio Ferdinand has tipped his former club Manchester United to become champions and expects Wayne Rooney to win the Premier League's Golden Boot.

"I'm backing Manchester United to win the league,

"Manchester United will win because they have a good manager. Wayne Rooney is a good choice as captain. This is his 10th year and he will be top scorer in the league this season.

"Obviously they need their best players fit. Last season Robin van Persie did not play much but he could also be a top scorer."

[Source: London Evening Standard]

.................


*BREAKING NEWS*
Marouane Fellaini suffered a knock to the ankle during training yesterday. There are no official news on the severity of the injury yet, but early reports suggest he could be out for 4-6 months.

Napoli are waiting for updates as a loan move could now be in doubt.
4-6 months? All these our players that get paid weekly doing nothing for the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 2:05pm On Aug 20, 2014
Sami khedira who has a year left on his contract is destined to spend extended periods on that Madrid bench, yet we haven't even signified any interest.

Nawa oo..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 2:57pm On Aug 20, 2014
He is a good mf shaaa buh he blows hot and cold most times
Dadehmola: Sami khedira who has a year left on his contract is destined to spend extended periods on that Madrid bench, yet we haven't even signified any interest.

Nawa oo..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Purist(m): 3:09pm On Aug 20, 2014
This one that all our players are dropping like flies. Last season, Moyes was the dinosaur over-training the players. Is Van Gaal a dinosaur too? Dutch fitness coach Verheijen seems to suggest so.

"The Luke Shaw case is the climax of Manchester United’s predictable pre-season injury crisis due to 'too much training too soon'."

"During the World Cup preparation, the Dutch players had to do frequent double sessions, so not surprisingly the muscle injuries accumulated…"

"At Man United, in the first few weeks, LVG has applied the same approach and, as expected, with the same result: accumulation of injuries."

http://www.squawka.com/news/dutch-fitness-guru-raymond-verheijen-slams-louis-van-gaal-over-handling-of-man-uniteds-luke-shaw/158910
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 3:12pm On Aug 20, 2014
Purist: This one that all our players are dropping like flies. Last season, Moyes was the dinosaur over-training the players. Is Van Gaal a dinosaur too? Dutch fitness coach Verheijen seems to suggest so.

http://www.squawka.com/news/dutch-fitness-guru-raymond-verheijen-slams-louis-van-gaal-over-handling-of-man-uniteds-luke-shaw/158910
they probably think hard training will reduce the shitness.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:27pm On Aug 20, 2014
PietroRico: they probably think hard training will reduce the shitness.
cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dantedasz(m): 4:36pm On Aug 20, 2014
The Glazers continue to thrive while Manchester United flounder

David Conn

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This summer the owners have boasted about how much they have increased ticket prices since their takeover – at the same time as Ed Woodward struggles to attract top names 
• Glazers rule out selling United for at least five years 
• Marcos Rojo set to complete £16m move to Old Trafford

Manchester United's shortcomings were evident in the opening-day defeat in the Premier League by Swansea. Photograph: Michael Mayhew/Sportsphoto Ltd/Allstar

Wednesday 20 August 2014 15.07 BST

Amid the reams of corporate boasting in the Glazer family’s pitch to make $200m from selling a small slice of Manchester United plc shares, a section trumpets to likely investors United’s concerted raising of Old Trafford ticket prices since the Americans bought the club in 2005 and loaded it with their own £525m debt.

The timing, following the £75m the family made selling shares when theyfloated United on the New York stock exchange in 2012, is painful. The thinness of the club’s squad was exposed by Swansea City’s 2-1 opening-day win at Old Trafford last Saturday and there is an unconvincing late transfer market scramble to shore it up.

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Supporters are confronted with the legacy of £700m drained out in interest, fees and bank charges by the Glazers’ takeover, botched planning and underinvestment, which can be traced back to 2009. Then United reached the Champions League final,where they lost to Barcelona, then sold Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid for £80m, a windfall that was not reinvested in recruiting new players.

Edward Woodward was in 2005 a banker at JP Morgan and the chief architect of the Glazers’ debt-loading takeover, including the high-interest £265m “payments in kind” loaned by hedge funds, which has cost United so far that scarcely believable £700m. Woodward is now reinvented, installed by the Glazers as the club’s vice-chairman, charged with actually running the famous club. With #GlazersOut trending on Twitter for two days following the defeat by Swansea, Woodward is tasked with showing he can negotiate the thickets of football administration and, by extension, that the Glazers should be trusted.

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He will point to this week’s signing of the Argentinian international defenderMarcos Rojo from Sporting Lisbon, which was complicated by the endemic Portuguese spectacle of investors owning rights in the player, as evidence of sure-handedness. Supporters, however, will take much more convincing.

On 30 July, with the season about to start and player reinforcements clearly needed, the Glazers released their 167-page prospectus, tweaked a fortnight ago, to sell 12m shares at $17 each in Manchester United plc – registered by them in the Cayman Islands tax haven and floated on the New York stock exchange. The document extols with familiar breathlessness the money made, the 659m global “followers” for United and listing 29 of the club’s “global and regional” sponsors, from Chevrolet on the shirts, Japanese instant noodles company Nissin, to Cho-a Pharm, United’s “official pharmaceuticals partner in Korea and Vietnam”.

At Old Trafford, the Glazers’ prospectus explains they have increased matchday income “by restructuring the composition of our stadium”. A section has been coralled for some fans who still like to sing in the way they grew into as kids, when entry was affordable, but the prospectus does not mention that. Instead, it stresses modern Premier League reality: “A particular emphasis on developing premium seating and hospitality facilities to enhance our overall matchday profitability.” The Glazers have also “changed the composition of our general admission seats,” creating many different “options” for buying a ticket and introducing, like most Premier League clubs, “a categorised approach”.

This, the Glazers assure investors, means fans are now paying significantly more. “Between the 2005-06 season [the first after their takeover] and the 2013-14 season,” the prospectus says, “the weighted average general admission ticket prices for our Premier League matches played at Old Trafford increased at a compound annual growth rate of 4.4%.”

That has been over nine years with inflation at historic lows, through the banking collapses and recession, which increased the strain on football supporters and lent leveraged financial buyouts such as the one orchestrated at United a toxic reputation. Now the fans paying the big money in their socially re-engineered football ground are looking down with dismay on the team United are fielding and increasingly questioning the Glazers’ and Woodward’s competence as well as their money-making motives.

The prospectus shows that while huge money has been taken out of the club to pay takeover debt, United were steered through potentially rocky years by the force of Sir Alex Ferguson and the sale of Ronaldo. That can be seen as the watershed, when United floundered in football’s dramatically inflating transfer market, first underspending, then turning to the comfort zone of promising Premier League performers, while allowinggalacticos to go elsewhere.

Robin van Persie, Ferguson’s pre-leaving indulgence, andthe hurried January signing of Juan Mata for a suffering David Moyes, were late exceptions. At the same time United’s youth team cadre, the Class of 92, were reaching the end of their wondrous service. Yet replacements from within United’s academy for Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs remain theoretical.

United’s financial picture does not look quite as bright as the club paints it, despite income for the year ended 31 March 2014 – £111m made at Old Trafford, £183m reaped by the sponsorships and other commercial sweating, and an extraordinary £128m from broadcasting income – totalling £422m, by far an English football record.

Yet the Glazer debt for a club that had no borrowings before the takeover, is still about £342m and finance costs were another £53m, reducing pre-tax profits to £22m. United’s cash reserves – £34m – would still be the envy of most other clubs but are shrunk from the £151m in the vaults in 2009. Ronaldo’s £80m sale, according to investment analyst and United supporter Andy Green, was spent paying off the Glazer debt.

While United have declined dramatically since, failing even to qualify for this season’s Champions League, Ronaldo has raced on to win for Real Madrid a 10th European champions trophy. Sheikh Mansour’s Abu Dhabi multi-millions, combined with concerted professional planning and a top football chief executive, Ferran Soriano, have arrived to arm derby rivals Manchester City, while Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have strengthened their squads and operations, concluding major signings early this summer.

United, once impregnable rulers of the Premier League era, look hollowed out by contrast. Ferguson’s retirement loomed as the one big decision the Glazers faced after they captured United, yet there was no evident succession planning. Ferguson seemed to shock the Glazers when he finally announced his leaving and they then compounded the error by allowing him to anoint his own successor, the unfortunate Moyes.

Player recruitment planning looks years behind City, where the board developed a dedicated system after Mansour’s 2008 takeover, installing a director of football, now Txiki Begiristain, working with managers and directors to a stated aim of two world-class players in each position, backed by limitless cash.

Woodward would argue United’s system is sophisticated, too, with the chief scout, Jim Lawlor, researching players in depth, then managers, now Louis van Gaal – his arrival delayed until after the World Cup – deciding who he wants. Rojo, Ander Herrera and Luke Shaw are the fruits so far, and Woodward would emphatically reject the perception that he struggles to close deals, arguing that agreeing terms with a club willing to sell is the most straightforward element of a transfer.

It is, though, baffling that United allowed three champion defenders – Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra – to leave together this summer, with no replacements signed except Shaw, the £27m 19-year-old left-back. Woodward now has less than two weeks to shore up the squad, with the season already started.

In another announcement to the New York stock exchange a fortnight ago,Manchester United plc said British investment firm Lansdowne has bought 7.5m shares, half through two Cayman Islands funds, paying the Glazers $127m. This is what the family envisaged in 2005 when Woodward and his banking colleagues organised their high-interest takeover: that the great club itself would pay off the Glazers’ debts, and they would cash in.

There may be a #GlazersOut day eventually but it will more likely be selling to investors at a great profit than a chasing out by fans, outraged at what has been done to their beloved United.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:16pm On Aug 20, 2014
Purist: This one that all our players are dropping like flies. Last season, Moyes was the dinosaur over-training the players. Is Van Gaal a dinosaur too? Dutch fitness coach Verheijen seems to suggest so.

"The Luke Shaw case is the climax of Manchester United’s predictable pre-season injury crisis due to 'too much training too soon'."

"During the World Cup preparation, the Dutch players had to do frequent double sessions, so not surprisingly the muscle injuries accumulated…"

"At Man United, in the first few weeks, LVG has applied the same approach and, as expected, with the same result: accumulation of injuries."

http://www.squawka.com/news/dutch-fitness-guru-raymond-verheijen-slams-louis-van-gaal-over-handling-of-man-uniteds-luke-shaw/158910

...,and to think that Gaal said he has not reached the level of hardness in training he is suppose to implement.

Our players should sit up and not getting lazy. We use to have hard working players. I remember those days when Rooney would chase an opposing striker or midfielder into our area and close him down or even disposing him . Tevez too would start the defence duty from the moment United loses the ball. Tireless JS Park. Now everybody wants to play big man football, this lead to spaces everywhere for our opponents to explore.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:21pm On Aug 20, 2014
I saw a recent picture of Anderson. He's looking trimmed. Hallelujah!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 6:47pm On Aug 20, 2014
Anderson
Cool Guy smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:41pm On Aug 20, 2014
20/08/2014 19:15, Report by Communications Department

United sign Marcos Rojo from Sporting Lisbon

- Argentina international joins on five-year contract
- Nani to join Sporting Lisbon on loan

Manchester United is delighted to announce the signing of defender Marcos Rojo from Sporting Lisbon for a fee of €20m, with Nani joining the Portuguese club on a season-long loan. Marcos joins on a five-year contract.

Rojo, 24, joined Sporting from Spartak Moscow, having started his career at his home town team of Estudiantes de la Plata. Marcos has played 28 times for Argentina since making his debut three years ago and played six games, including the final, in his country's run to the recent FIFA World Cup final, scoring in the last group game against Nigeria. He was named as one of the defenders in the Castrol Index All Star Team of the tournament.

Marcos Rojo said: "It is such an honour to say that I now play for Manchester United. The Premier League is the most exciting league in the world and to have the chance to play in it for the world's biggest club is a dream for me. I am young and am very keen to continue to learn the game, so playing for such an experienced technical coach as Louis van Gaal is a fantastic opportunity for me. I have joined United to work hard with my team-mates to win trophies and I know that the manager shares that ambition."

Louis van Gaal said: "Marcos is a very gifted defender. He has played at the highest level in world football and can play either as a central defender or left-back. He has ability, physical strength and a willingness to learn that means he has a very bright future ahead of him. He had a very strong World Cup and has been playing in Europe for a couple of years now. He is a very good addition to the team."


http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/Manchester-United-confirm-transfer-of-Marcos-Rojo-from-Sporting-Lisbon.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:44pm On Aug 20, 2014
Vidic's jersey no. Let's see how it goes.
Goodluck!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:49pm On Aug 20, 2014
chrisley024: Vidic's jersey no. Let's see how it goes.
Goodluck!

This is Ferdi's number.

* why do we print two names now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:02pm On Aug 20, 2014
elampiro:

This is Ferdi's number.

* why do we print two names now?
Ya. Vidic's 15.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:33pm On Aug 20, 2014
Arsenal €25m bid for William Carvalho rejected.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:38pm On Aug 20, 2014
elampiro: Arsenal €25m bid for William Carvalho rejected.
I must say if Vidal is not coming, looking very likely by the day, we should go for him. Though I see late move for De Jong.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:07pm On Aug 20, 2014
Another early goal from Falconets.

2nd group match against S.Korea, they scored at 12secs
Qtr final against New Zealand, they scored at 31 seconds.
Today, Semi final, they scored at before 2mins.


Can we win this?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:21pm On Aug 20, 2014
The Korea girls are very good.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:27pm On Aug 20, 2014
2-0

Oshoala caught them on the break with pace and power... Lol

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dhelake: 9:35pm On Aug 20, 2014
^^^ Lolz
Your username should be elampower
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35pm On Aug 20, 2014
2-1
What sort of defending was that?

ChristineC,

Are you watching? Can you see Dike looks like Anderson?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:50pm On Aug 20, 2014
nitrogen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn-HzJYTeQg

Oh Nani

one of the best performances of a winger at old trafford. this performance & the bayern game where rafael got sent off, i dunno which one was better.

to think we let him go & keep laboratory rêtard like valencia in the squad is bordering on insanity. nani would be back, he's too good for the portugese league, he would tear it apart.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:55pm On Aug 20, 2014
HT 2-1.

We have allowed them to come in.... That goal was avoidable. We had possession but two of players deciding to leave it for each other left the ball for no one. Then we defended awfully.

They Koreans are more technical and are more comfortable on the ball. They are like 14 on he pitch. Our defence has always been a problem. Commentators always said it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:14pm On Aug 20, 2014
3-1 Sunday, after two minutes of coming in for Dike in the number 9 position.

Oshoala is a good footballer. I noticed her from the very first game she played DM. She played Midfield the fisrt two or three matches before she was moved to the number 10 in the Q/final. And she also plays well when she drifts to he wing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:18pm On Aug 20, 2014
What a goal from Oshoala.

4-1.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 10:19pm On Aug 20, 2014
Now we have Rojo ... Now who's next ? I just noticed stuffs bout utd recently ... They sign in chain .. So am pretty sure we ain't done yet wit the transfer and i have this feelings we will a get a player whose name hasn't be spelt all over the media just like rojo and the rest ... Lemme just sit tight and observe ... Maybe Nigel De Jong and Juan Cuadrado #smiles# *Watch this space*

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