I bumped into this web page(http://www.upcbaypoint.com/Articles/trinity_fact_or_fiction.html) and I deemed it necessary to paste it here. Its quite exploratory on the subject matter.I have no doubts that it would be a spiritual blessing to a truth seeker about the undiluted word of the most High God.This excerpt might look so contradictory to most christian beliefs but herein lies the truth.Anyway, its much opened to biblical scrutiny if you you doubt the truth.

*****excerpt from http://www.upcbaypoint.com/Articles/trinity_fact_or_fiction.html*****

God is one Divine essence subsisting in three Divine persons, 1st Person Father, 2nd Person Son, and 3rd Person Holy Ghost. Co-Equal, Co-Eternal, Co-Omnipresent, Co-Omniscient, Co-Powerful. Three in one and one in three.

In looking at this statement and concept one must keep in mind even trinity scholars themselves down through the centuries of time admit the trinity is not clearly found in the sacred text. This means the trinity is not expressed clearly as a fact in the Word of God. These scholars also admit the trinity theory is a result of human induction from the statements of the scriptures. This means humans with their educated minds have identified certain scriptures which indicate "to them" the existence of three different persons who are deity in nature but operate in different functions. These scholars also state one has to believe in this theory to be Christian and be saved even though there are scriptures in the Word of God which totally refute this theory.

Following are common teachings by trinity believers which have scriptures in direct opposition to the teaching. Here the Scriptural Harmony Process clearly shows the many false teachings of the trinity believers and why the trinity is not a true Christian doctrine.

God is one Divine essence subsisting as three Divine persons.

John 4:24. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Eph. 4:4-6.

4 There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

(No where in the Bible is God described as an essence or a substance. Nor is the Father and the Holy Ghost ever described as persons in the Word of God. Keep in mind in the spirit world there is neither male or female. Also, God the Great Spirit is neither male or female. This means the Father and Holy Ghost are titles given to the ONE Divine invisible omnipresent Spirit who is God. This Great Spirit is our heavenly Father and his name is Jesus Christ. This is why Jesus told the Apostles. "When you see me you have seen the Father."

There are three separate persons (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) living in heaven. Each has his own throne and they are seated next to each other with Jesus Christ at the right hand of the Father.

Isa. 43:10-11.

10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa. 44:6.

6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isa. 44:8.

8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa. 45:3.

3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
Isa. 45:5-6.

5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isa. 45:18.

18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isa. 45:21-22.

21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa. 46:9.

9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

(In the monotheistic religion of Abraham and Moses the seed of Abraham learned the Old Covenant scriptures well. They also knew these verses in Isaiah perfectly well. With these scriptures coming from one of the most powerful prophets of God ever in history is it any wonder the early Apostolic Jewish Christians and traditional Jews rejected the theory of a trinity godhead system? To the Christian Jews and traditional Jews alike in early church history this trinity thing was nothing more than a new twist of old pagan idolatry. This was especially true when the early Trinitarians started making statues and paintings illustrating the so called three separate persons in heaven. It is also very evident from these scripture verses in Isaiah there never has been nor is there a co-eternal godhead of three persons dwelling in heaven. Here again the "Bible" confirms the non-existence of the Christian trinity.)

The trinity teaches the first person in the godhead "Father" is the father of Jesus Christ.

Matt. 1:18.

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

(Here we can clearly see the deception of the trinity. If the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost were three separate persons then Jesus did not know who his father was when he prayed to his Father. The reason being trinity believers are taught anytime Jesus prayed to his father he was praying to the 1st person of the trinity godhead. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The reason being the "Bible" teaches the Holy Ghost is the father of Jesus Christ.)

The trinity teaches that Jesus Christ is the second person in the godhead.

Col. 1:19.

19 For it pleased the Father (Holy Spirit) that in him (Jesus Christ) should all fulness dwell;
Col. 2:8-13.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

9 For in him DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY.

10 And ye are complete in him, WHICH IS THE HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITY AND POWER:

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
1 Tim. 3:16.

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD (Jesus Christ) WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Isa. 9:6.

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name (Jesus Christ) shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

(There is no other teaching that is more repugnant to the Lord than the trinity teaching that Jesus Christ is in second position in the godhead. Being the King of Kings and Lord of Lord's he is the fulness of the godhead manifested in the flesh. While the Great Spirit has always been and will always be, Jesus Christ is the visible human manifestation of the invisible Holy Spirit.)

The trinity teaches the three persons of the godhead are co-powerful in authority.

Matt. 28:18.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

(Here we see another contradiction between the trinity and the Word of God. The Word tell us Jesus has ALL POWER. If he has all power this then leaves no power for the so called 1st and 3rd persons if there were three persons.)

As we look at the theory of the trinity in light of the scriptures it is very evident the Church Fathers using Scholastic Theology to develop the theory of a Christian trinity made some very bad interpretational errors of the scriptures they use to prove the trinity. In addition most of the scriptures in the Word of God which clearly show there cannot be a Christian trinity they clearly ignored.

In this process of picking and choosing one key word has been clearly ignored throughout the history of the trinity movement. This word is MANIFESTATION. In the Bible we know the following about God. He is an invisible Holy Spirit who is omnipresent in existence. Since he is invisible with no confinement in form the only way we can see and feel him is by MANIFESTATIONS. The word manifestation means to make visible and to make someone aware of.

Examples of Biblical manifestations of God are: the voice of God speaking in the garden and in the burning bush, the pillars of fire and smoke, the great I AM revelation, the voice and fire on Mt Sinai, the glory of God on the mercy seat in the Holy of Holies, the Angel of the Lord, the Death Angel, the Father in creation, the Son in redemption, the Holy Ghost in regeneration, the Ancient of days on the throne, the Lord Jesus Christ on the throne, the Son, dove, and voice at the baptism of Jesus Christ by John.

These many manifestations of God are all important to students of religious history and reveal the diverse nature and power of the one true God. What the authors of the Christian trinity did was select three of these manifestation and turn them into human like persons and the theory of the trinity while at the same time ignoring the complete nature and power of our God. In modern day terms the Church Fathers put God in a human shoe box called the trinity and then said, to be Christian, and to be saved, one had to believe the trinity and bow to it. This is not salvation because the Word of God does not support trinity doctrine.

As stated before. The change in water baptism by Justin Martyr and the development of the different trinities represents change in the gospel of salvation of the Apostles. These changes can only result in one thing, the curse of God and the loss of salvation to all who follow these changes.

Lesson by:
Rev. John D. Sims
Pastor-Teacher
Apostolic Bible Center

******culled from http://www.upcbaypoint.com/Articles/trinity_fact_or_fiction.html*****

I would like to see Enigma's take on this article.

Absolute bunkum!

Hmmm, I'm suprised, why does God always answer the prayers of bible believing trinitrants of which am one? I'm not confused anyway, I was JW before.
@author does that website use The New World Translation?
May i have your email?

@ All, I have not culled this information for private interpretation. What is essence is for us to come up with biblical scrutiny and perhaps divine relation on the truth.

More so, what matters most is for edification of the christian mind.

@ last poster,you can contact me on this email address-danoanizor@gmail.com,its definitely not my main email!

Stay blessed!

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