HUMAN RIGHT CLAIM,MYTH OR REALITY?

The first page of the Universal Human Right Declaration b y the United Nation states that: We are born free and equal in dignity and right,this means that we all possess certain rights that can not be denied. Every person is entitled to these rights purely because they are human and they can not be forfeited. This entails that they cannot be taken away,hence human right. But the Tanzanian constitutional lawyer Issa Savinjji believe s that human right are fought for,they are not part of you until you fight for them and acquire it. In my opinion, how can a right said to be yours since you need to fight to acquire it? How can this right be guaranteed when the primary body that should protect it is the same violating it? Abdul AOH

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@Poster, why not post the exact quote. Can't really make heads or tails of what you have up there.

Your human rights conflict with some countries' belief systems (religious and cultural). That is why you have to fight for your rights, otherwise the religious and tribal bigots in your government will not let you have your freedom.

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You can NEVER have human rights with religion in the world.

Callotti: You can NEVER have human rights with religion in the world.

i beg to correct; you can NEVER have human rights with "humans" in the world.

can you substantiate your submission pls?

^^^the rights of humans are defined by humans and acted upon by humans. religion is the creation of humanslikewise tradition and culture. let's take saudi arabia for example,can a muslim saudi woman convert to christianity without going against the human laid laws of the land? Is human right in its self not a creation of the human? Is my right of drinking and frollicking with a woman in public not offensive to that of the fanatic muslim?

DRANOEL: ^^^the rights of humans are defined by humans and acted upon by humans. religion is the creation of humanslikewise tradition and culture. let's take saudi arabia for example,can a muslim saudi woman convert to christianity without going against the human laid laws of the land? Is human right in its self not a creation of the human? Is my right of drinking and frollicking with a woman in public not offensive to that of the fanatic muslim?

Yes, you have a point. HUMANS CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR HUMANS AND ANIMALS. But the only kind of humans that will infringe on the right of others are those who use religion, culture and tradition to trample on others as CUSTODIANS of society or God's+Allah's mouth pieces. THE MISERABLE BIGOTS AND FANATICS. Not ALL HUMANS! In the final analysis, it is not the case of the "chicken or the egg". The humans who use religion, politics or tradition to alienate others are the culprits. Pagans too who feel the need for human sacrifice to appease their 'deities'. Atheists and agnostics to a lesser degree since they have a lesser number of psycho-sociopaths!

culture,tradition and religion are actually the worst culprits of human rights infringements. by themselves they restrict the way of human life. unfortunately culture,tradition and religion are what define human"hood".

Might define your own humanhood. . .but not mine. All subjective.

Callotti: You can NEVER have human rights with religion in the world.

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mkmyers45:

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Thank you jare!1Like from me to you!

DRANOEL: culture,tradition and religion are actually the worst culprits of human rights infringements. by themselves they restrict the way of human life. unfortunately culture,tradition and religion are what define human"hood".

Well said, but don't you think culture, tradition and religion should not be rigid. As humans get civilised, there is the need for reforms in our societies.

human right was substantiated through religion, that is why we can't remove religion from human right. the quality of human in human right was substantiated through the religions teaching which says God created all human from one man and equal, and in Christianity, it say,we created human in God owns image. This means that for human right to actually be a right, it must conform with certain laws from religion.

^^^ religion in itself is a creation of humans. "rights" are human creation. "equality" "superiority" "inferiority" are all the creation of humans. remember i said "they can never be human rights with the creation of humans" which means man and animals alike are created to compete and once there is competition they can never be "rights". take this for example; can a male lion tresspass the territory of another male lion without reprecussions? the answer clearly shows that the losing party has been denied certain "rights". there is a reason every person aspires to be at the top. there are certain privileges those at the top of the ladder enjoy that those below don't. these privileges are "rights" those at the top have that those under don't have.