These questions are meant to be a part of a conversation. They are not, in and of themselves, arguments or "proofs" for God. They are commonly asked existential or experiential questions that both atheists and theists alike can ponder.

1-If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing? This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers. But it is an historic concern. Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life? If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found? Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end? How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier? If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong? If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

2- If we reject the existence of God, we are left with a crisis of meaning, so why don’t we see more atheists like Jean Paul Sartre, or Friedrich Nietzsche, or Michel Foucault? These three philosophers, who also embraced atheism, recognized that in the absence of God, there was no transcendent meaning beyond one’s own self-interests, pleasures, or tastes. The crisis of atheistic meaninglessness is depicted in Sartre’s book Nausea. Without God, there is a crisis of meaning, and these three thinkers, among others, show us a world of just stuff, thrown out into space and time, going nowhere, meaning nothing.

3-When people have embraced atheism, the historical results can be horrific, as in the regimes of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot who saw religion as the problem and worked to eradicate it? In other words, what set of actions are consistent with particular belief commitments? It could be argued, that these behaviors – of the regimes in question - are more consistent with the implications of atheism. Though, I'm thankful that many of the atheists I know do not live the implications of these beliefs out for themselves like others did! It could be argued that the socio-political ideologies could very well be the outworking of a particular set of beliefs – beliefs that posited the ideal state as an atheistic one.

4-If there is no God, the problems of evil and suffering are in no way solved, so where is the hope of redemption, or meaning for those who suffer? Suffering is just as tragic, if not more so, without God because there is no hope of ultimate justice, or of the suffering being rendered meaningful or transcendent, redemptive or redeemable. It might be true that there is no God to blame now, but neither is there a God to reach out to for strength, transcendent meaning, or comfort. Why would we seek the alleviation of suffering without objective morality grounded in a God of justice?

5-If there is no God, we lose the very standard by which we critique religions and religious people, so whose opinion matters most? Whose voice will be heard? Whose tastes or preferences will be honored? In the long run, human tastes and opinions have no more weight than we give them, and who are we to give them meaning anyway? Who is to say that lying, or cheating or adultery or child molestation are wrong –really wrong? Where do those standards come from? Sure, our societies might make these things “illegal” and impose penalties or consequences for things that are not socially acceptable, but human cultures have at various times legally or socially disapproved of everything from believing in God to believing the world revolves around the sun; from slavery, to interracial marriage, from polygamy to monogamy. Human taste, opinion law and culture are hardly dependable arbiters of Truth.

6-If there is no God, we don’t make sense, so how do we explain human longings and desire for the transcendent? How do we even explain human questions for meaning and purpose, or inner thoughts like, why do I feel unfulfilled or empty? Why do we hunger for the spiritual, and how do we explain these longings if nothing can exist beyond the material world?

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Who created God?

That's why he is God. If anyone created God then God is not God. He is the almighty, beyond human comprehension.
Asking "Who created God?" is illogical, just like "to whom is the bachelor married?" If a man is married, he is no longer a bachelor.

So you are saying some things can exist without being created by a designer, as long as we define them as such? Why not the universe, then? Could the universe not just simply have existed forever, just like you think God existed? When if we define the universe as a thing which has always existed and always will? If we do that, then we don't need the concept of God to explain things!

jmoore: These questions are meant to be a part of a conversation. They are not, in and of themselves, arguments or "proofs" for God. They are commonly asked existential or experiential questions that both atheists and theists alike can ponder.

Firstly, since you're willing to post this here, what do you think about the article?

jmoore:
1-If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing? This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers. But it is an historic concern. Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life? If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found? Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end? How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier? If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong? If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

Which God are you talking about? And how does the presence of God help in answering these so called "big questions"? Take the something from nothing question. If there is a God, that would mean that there isn't a "nothing". Also have you considered the answer of "nothing" doesn't exist or never existed?
What does the question of conscious intelligent life mean? As far as we know, the conscious life available was arrived at by evolution.
How does God help in answering this meaning question and the other questions that were raised on history, good and evil etc?
I am open to other answers the problem lies in the evidence for them.

jmoore:
2- If we reject the existence of God, we are left with a crisis of meaning, so why don’t we see more atheists like Jean Paul Sartre, or Friedrich Nietzsche, or Michel Foucault? These three philosophers, who also embraced atheism, recognized that in the absence of God, there was no transcendent meaning beyond one’s own self-interests, pleasures, or tastes. The crisis of atheistic meaninglessness is depicted in Sartre’s book Nausea. Without God, there is a crisis of meaning, and these three thinkers, among others, show us a world of just stuff, thrown out into space and time, going nowhere, meaning nothing.

No we're not left with a crisis of meaning. Maybe we don't see more atheists like that since we already have atheists like Dan Barker, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet, A.C. Graying, Steven Pinker, Carl Sagan among others.
These atheists have pretty much let us know understand that the sort of meaning offered by Gods and religion aren't worthwhile. Besides, how does the idea of a God make something like a rainbow meaningful?

jmoore:
3-When people have embraced atheism, the historical results can be horrific, as in the regimes of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot who saw religion as the problem and worked to eradicate it? In other words, what set of actions are consistent with particular belief commitments? It could be argued, that these behaviors – of the regimes in question - are more consistent with the implications of atheism. Though, I'm thankful that many of the atheists I know do not live the implications of these beliefs out for themselves like others did! It could be argued that the socio-political ideologies could very well be the outworking of a particular set of beliefs – beliefs that posited the ideal state as an atheistic one.

This is factually incorrect as we can see today given the number of powerful countries which aren't held under the sway of religion. This in fact is a fallacious line of reasoning known as a hasty generalization. You cannot generalize to the diverse world at large based on the activities of three people. In fact, when looks at the activities of religious people done for religious reasons even today, one has a good reason to avoid religions and their Gods.
Please make the argument that the actions are more consistent with the implications of atheism.

jmoore:
4-If there is no God, the problems of evil and suffering are in no way solved, so where is the hope of redemption, or meaning for those who suffer? Suffering is just as tragic, if not more so, without God because there is no hope of ultimate justice, or of the suffering being rendered meaningful or transcendent, redemptive or redeemable. It might be true that there is no God to blame now, but neither is there a God to reach out to for strength, transcendent meaning, or comfort. Why would we seek the alleviation of suffering without objective morality grounded in a God of justice?

If there is a God, the problems of evil show that he is can be considered as being evil, impotent or not worthy of being called a God. Epicurus pointed this out more than 2000 years ago.
How is it comforting to go to someone who deliberately tortures you for comfort?

jmoore:
5-If there is no God, we lose the very standard by which we critique religions and religious people, so whose opinion matters most? Whose voice will be heard? Whose tastes or preferences will be honored? In the long run, human tastes and opinions have no more weight than we give them, and who are we to give them meaning anyway? Who is to say that lying, or cheating or adultery or child molestation are wrong –really wrong? Where do those standards come from? Sure, our societies might make these things “illegal” and impose penalties or consequences for things that are not socially acceptable, but human cultures have at various times legally or socially disapproved of everything from believing in God to believing the world revolves around the sun; from slavery, to interracial marriage, from polygamy to monogamy. Human taste, opinion law and culture are hardly dependable arbiters of Truth.

If there is a God, then all sorts of atrocities including those you've mentioned above are allowed.
Humans do not need a God to be able to determine that child molestation is wrong. In fact, certain religious traditions and by extension their Gods hold what we consider as child molestation to be good.
You may need to realize that God doesn't give any standards. He doesn't even have any standards.

jmoore:
6-If there is no God, we don’t make sense, so how do we explain human longings and desire for the transcendent? How do we even explain human questions for meaning and purpose, or inner thoughts like, why do I feel unfulfilled or empty? Why do we hunger for the spiritual, and how do we explain these longings if nothing can exist beyond the material world?

culled from http://www.rzim.org/usa/usfv/tabid/436/articleid/10284/cbmoduleid/1561/default.aspx

What does the first sentence here even mean? Who says people hunger for "the spiritual" what is this "spiritual"? What longings are you talking about that haven't been addressed in the absence of a God?

Why can't the universe be eternal?

The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal.

Here are some quotes from university websites by scientists who know that the universe had a beginning:

1-"The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big B@ng, about 15 billion years ago." Stephen Hawking The Beginning of Time (Stephen Hawking is an atheist)

2-"Scientists generally agree that "the Big B@ng" birthed the universe about 15 billion years ago." Tom Parisi, Northern Illinois University

3-"As a result of the Big B@ng (the tremendous explosion which marked the beginning of our Universe), the universe is expanding and most of the galaxies within it are moving away from each other." CalTech

4-"The Big B@ng model of the universe's birth is the most widely accepted model that has ever been conceived for the scientific origin of everything." Stuart Robbins, Case Western Reserve University

5-"Many once believed that the universe had no beginning or end and was truly infinite. Through the inception of the Big B@ng theory, however, no longer could the universe be considered infinite. The universe was forced to take on the properties of a finite phenomenon, possessing a history and a beginning." Chris LaRocco and Blair Rothstein, University of Michigan

6-"The scientific evidence is now overwhelming that the Universe began with a "Big B@ng" ~15 billion (15,000,000,000 or 15E9) years ago." "The Big B@ng theory is the most widely accepted theory of the creation of the Universe." Dr. van der Pluijm, University of Michigan

7-"The present location and velocities of galaxies are a result of a primordial blast known as the BIG B@NG. It marked: THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE! THE BEGINNING OF TIME!" Terry Herter, Cornell University

8-"That radiation is residual heat from the Big B@ng, the event that sparked the beginning of the universe some 13 billion years ago." Craig Hogan, University of Washington

^^^^^
Blashphemy!!! How can you call yourself a christian and use the Big B@ng theory that says the universe is billions of years old. Read your bible. Who caused the explosion of the big b@ng.

I bet you're also an evolutionist. Demon!!

Martian: ^^^^^
Blashphemy!!! How can you call yourself a christian and use the Big B@ng theory that says the universe is billions of years old. Read your bible. Who caused the explosion of the big b@ng.

I bet you're also an evolutionist. Demon!!

there is a difference between big-b@ng and darwin's theory of evolution(that we came from ape)

I am not an evolutionist, and you seem to be confused. Judging from you topics and posts, everyone can conclude that you are anti-christ.


About the big-b@ng, it was not explained in the bible, I am using it as a case study as science says so, though it is still inconclusive.

jmoore:

there is a difference between big-b@ng and darwin's theory of evolution(that we came from ape)

I am not an evolutionist, and you seem to be confused. Judging from you topics and posts, everyone can conclude that you are anti-christ.

I'm not anti christ!!! Jesus is my homeboy.

Mu he he he he he he he

Interesting exchanges!

jmoore: Why can't the universe be eternal?

The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal.

Here are some quotes from university websites by scientists who know that the universe had a beginning:

1-"The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big B@ng, about 15 billion years ago." Stephen Hawking The Beginning of Time (Stephen Hawking is an atheist)

2-"Scientists generally agree that "the Big B@ng" birthed the universe about 15 billion years ago." Tom Parisi, Northern Illinois University

3-"As a result of the Big B@ng (the tremendous explosion which marked the beginning of our Universe), the universe is expanding and most of the galaxies within it are moving away from each other." CalTech

4-"The Big B@ng model of the universe's birth is the most widely accepted model that has ever been conceived for the scientific origin of everything." Stuart Robbins, Case Western Reserve University

5-"Many once believed that the universe had no beginning or end and was truly infinite. Through the inception of the Big B@ng theory, however, no longer could the universe be considered infinite. The universe was forced to take on the properties of a finite phenomenon, possessing a history and a beginning." Chris LaRocco and Blair Rothstein, University of Michigan

6-"The scientific evidence is now overwhelming that the Universe began with a "Big B@ng" ~15 billion (15,000,000,000 or 15E9) years ago." "The Big B@ng theory is the most widely accepted theory of the creation of the Universe." Dr. van der Pluijm, University of Michigan

7-"The present location and velocities of galaxies are a result of a primordial blast known as the BIG B@NG. It marked: THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE! THE BEGINNING OF TIME!" Terry Herter, Cornell University

8-"That radiation is residual heat from the Big B@ng, the event that sparked the beginning of the universe some 13 billion years ago." Craig Hogan, University of Washington

We know that the universe began expanding from the big bang so what is the point of these quotes? How do they help your argument about a God?

If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing? This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers. But it is an historic concern. Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life? If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found? Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end? How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier? If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong? If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answe

Why there is something rather than nothing is settled by the fact that we are here as a result nothing couldn't have existed prior to nothing. In essence existence is eternal, everything now had existed in the past as potential at most.

I do think Good has an inherent value and stands independently from God or man’s whims. Its an objectively discernible necessary factor in the continuance of humanity. Its the binding blocks of social life just as laws are. Its false and dangerous to conclude that God or any man can decide whatever he wishes is good. For example the Islamic suicide bombers.

Is there a purpose to life: NO. There is no obvious ascertainable one by just looking around. However, most religions reduce human purpose solely to worship and as dispensable unimportant tools, upon dissatisfaction. There is still no individual and unique purpose. A sentient being will reject such, will rebel because there is still no purpose for itself to exist. One will fashion out a meaning and everchanging purpose and define its meaning to life.

Kay 17:

Why there is something rather than nothing is settled by the fact that we are here as a result nothing couldn't have existed prior to nothing. In essence existence is eternal, everything now had existed in the past as potential at most.

we live in a universe of cause and effect,Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created but in fact he created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.

Kay 17:
I do think Good has an inherent value and stands independently from God or man’s whims. Its an objectively discernible necessary factor in the continuance of humanity. Its the binding blocks of social life just as laws are. Its false and dangerous to conclude that God or any man can decide whatever he wishes is good. For example the Islamic suicide bombers.

Good is a value from God passed down to us because we are created in God’s image but it is our freewill that sometimes makes us to deviate from it.

Kay 17:
Is there a purpose to life: NO.

meaning there is no purpose to your own life?

To all u Atheist in d house,especially Kay17,we ve once agued abt some d quesn raised here by d poster in one of my previous thread.U see d God who's ominipotent&ominipresent,exist without cause for d follown reason; (1)The fact dat we ve many initiators&inventors right here on earth should be enough reason for u to accept dat som1 cause and not caused by somtin else (2)looking at d univers and all it contained,u wi see dat der's notn goes smoothly foreva without any sort of obstacle/interuption&on dat basis our existence tend to started somwer as a result of somtin. (3)wat wi u say abt those who called upon his name(God)and received in accordant with d message sent to him?(4)wat wi u atheist say abt d dream dat comes to pass?(5)who do u tink is a mediator of existn natural law/is der any natural law guided our innate conscience?Finally,if atheist could blivs in spirit,den wat's d spirit/spirituality?

jmoore:
we live in a universe of cause and effect,Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created but in fact he created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.

The issue is that your version of Grand Creator is involved as a Cause to which this effect could be traced to, in order words he is part of the system. Another issue to note is the hat do you call the gap right before he created the universe and when he created the universe? Time?

Besides time is a result of motion, so it seems inevitable. And natural laws are immutable, they can't be created or modified, e.g the properties of a right angled triangle.

jmoore:
Good is a value from God passed down to us because we are created in God’s image but it is our freewill that sometimes makes us to deviate from it.

No its a value of self preservation. All societies including non Christian ones appreciate it. Imago Dei is an abstract that works after the justification and truth of Christianity is made or else, you are begging the queation.

As to meaning to my life, I define mine. I feel the human is equated to the value of merchandise if his worthy is determined by culture (women), or Gods.

Kay 17:

The issue is that your version of Grand Creator is involved as a Cause to which this effect could be traced to, in order words he is part of the system. Another issue to note is the hat do you call the gap right before he created the universe and when he created the universe? Time?

Besides time is a result of motion, so it seems inevitable. And natural laws are immutable, they can't be created or modified, e.g the properties of a right angled triangle.

That's where the problem, a big mistake lies, You do not know God(Jehovah), I know him and time does not apply to him, all these natural laws are his own creation, those laws can never apply to him

Kay 17:
No its a value of self preservation. All societies including non Christian ones appreciate it. Imago Dei is an abstract that works after the justification and truth of Christianity is made or else, you are begging the question.

As to meaning to my life, I define mine. I feel the human is equated to the value of merchandise if his worthy is determined by culture (women), or Gods.

Really? value of self preservation? Where does the sense of morality comes from? we could as well be okay with whatever people do to us because their "bad" may be our "good" and their "good" may be their "bad". Just as everyone is entitled to their opinion then everyone should be entitled to their own actions(good or bad).
"Who is to say that lying, or cheating or adultery or child molestation are wrong –really wrong? Where do those standards come from? Sure, our societies might make these things “illegal” and impose penalties or consequences for things that are not socially acceptable, but human cultures have at various times legally or socially disapproved somethings. Human taste, opinion law and culture are hardly dependable arbiters of Truth."

Martian: ^^^^^
Blashphemy!!! How can you call yourself a christian and use the Big B@ng theory that says the universe is billions of years old. Read your bible. Who caused the explosion of the big b@ng.

I bet you're also an evolutionist. Demon!!

I've read the Bible many times, and there is nothing in it about the Big Bang. You are grasping at straws to defend an undefendable position. The Bible is clear about creation and its timing. It is clear and clearly wrong.

The whole notion that "we are left with a crisis of meaning" if we deny God is a belief that many Christian hold. They've been going to Church since childhood, and can't fathom life without someone telling them how to live it. Kinda sad. Athiest have so much more meaning in their life. Once you realize that YOU control you life, not God, it becomes so much more rewarding and exciting.

A good first step is to study why we believe in God. It is illegal to teach in school, so read about it here and enjoy. It is some good stuff. You'll see that no where in the world will you find any proof of God, but there is an enormouse amount of evidnece that we created Him.
<a href='http://wecreatedgod.com' title='www.wecreatedgod.com' > </a>

adameve:

I've read the Bible many times, and there is nothing in it about the Big Bang. You are grasping at straws to defend an undefendable position. The Bible is clear about creation and its timing. It is clear and clearly wrong.

The whole notion that "we are left with a crisis of meaning" if we deny God is a belief that many Christian hold. They've been going to Church since childhood, and can't fathom life without someone telling them how to live it. Kinda sad. Athiest have so much more meaning in their life. Once you realize that YOU control you life, not God, it becomes so much more rewarding and exciting.

A good first step is to study why we believe in God. It is illegal to teach in school, so read about it here and enjoy. It is some good stuff. You'll see that no where in the world will you find any proof of God, but there is an enormouse amount of evidnece that we created Him.
<a href='http://wecreatedgod.com' title='www.wecreatedgod.com' > </a>

He created you using mud, snot and tar. Read your quran and stop using it as a paper weight.

I would love Dave Hunts to stick with the Quran and show us any verse which states that Muslims can kill/murder innocent people. If he is going by the Bibles, then he should go by the Quran. How is this christian using 2 different standards on the same single subject? This is deceitful. Typical, will you not say Callotti, since you were able to say Gbam, above?

_{So you are saying some things can exist without being created by a designer, as long as we define them as such? Why not the universe, then? Could the universe not just simply have existed forever, just like you think God existed? When if we define the universe as a thing which has always existed and always will? If we do that, then we don't need the concept of God to explain things!}Will Seun not love to remain with his family forever; if not with great great great great grandparents and all to be born in the future, single making a country of Osewa, but at least pa and ma and the rest of the siblings and newer generations of Osewa? Yet, Seun is certain that none of them will remain on earth for more than a lifespan of 200 years. Seun, you are getting older. Some day you will be 50 years old. Then 60, 70, 80 and when you really can stand straight, knowing fully well that you are no more a 20 something years old man in body and thinking, you may not want to live more than 120 years old, or even more [making 200 years in total]. Yet 200 years ago was 1812, a time so recent that even young america as a nation or enterprise is much older than.

In reality, if the universe that has no full intelligence of its own can exist on its on by your argument, I do believe that you who has greater independence intelligence more than it [the universe] would have existed by your own will [and we know this is not so because your parents definitely play the role to make you exist, just their parents played their own roles to make them exist]. Definitely, you would love to exist forever, if nothing else, because life is good; no? Yet. You will have no choice in your aging, dying and no longer existing. Apply this to the universe, because there is Only One Original Designer; He designs everything, He is not designed and no other designer with Him. That Designer is God Almighty. The Source of Everything.

@OP, there is an Almighty God who created the Heavens,the Earth and everything there in.. To those who don't believe there is a God, hold on to your beliefs but ask yourself this question "Is Science Evolution true or was written by a Man?". For the believers of the Omnipotent,Omnipresent & Omniscient God hold strongly to your beliefs and look up to him..

This is Blasphemy.

what are you all arguing about? about God? no way.......IT IS A FOOL UNTO MAN TO SAY THERE IS NO GOD. He a exist but dont stop me from asking who created God...because thats a question. anyway. one thing is clear that this world is running in motion. no one is better that other as we are all novice of what we are talking here. since we all doesnt know what after death, then we are all expressing our human thought here. Nobody is special before the eyes of God....nomatter what religion you are. what we are reading here is an opinion and believe of an atheist...every religion has their own ways of knowing God. When He created the world...He put rules and these rules are working in motion. as far as i am concern, this generation will last forever...... it is only human mistake that can cause a disaster in some part of the world.

This god you all are talking about. Please where is he and why is he hiding?

..i keep wondering y some people keep contemplating the existing of the eternal one (GOD) but strongly believe in the existing and various expressions of the wicked one (Devil)

Existance is mostly two-sided:

-Up & Down

-Positive & Negative

-North & South

-East & West

-Night & Day

-Good & Evil

-Light & Darkness

-God & Satan

Even our fore fathers believed in the existance of various supernatural entities (gods) that exercise powerful controlling influence over territories, people & situations which they worship as
their deities and at most times enter into various covenant/agreements with them via sacrifice. These deities were mostly fallen angels cast down from heaven with lucifer which inhabit various geographical entities like the marines, mountains, Trees, Rock etc.

Even an atheist once admits thus: "Unless we assume a God, the search for the meaning/purpose of life on earth is endless"

Hence search no more for "there is a God in heaven the ruleth over the affairs of men" ...King Nebuchadnezzar

Efiko:
Even an atheist once admits thus: "Unless we assume a God, the search for the meaning/purpose of life on earth is endless"

If this is your reference then you are an atheist but you don't know it yet. Read the sentence again and ponder on the first verb.

I won't say don't be an atheist, the only thing I will say is that ensure that you will never die if you are an atheist.

Logic Mind:

If this is your reference then you are an atheist but you don't know it yet. Read the sentence again and ponder on the first verb.

Its a sure quote by an atheist; i guess he's reconsidering his position on the existance of God after much searching/mental exertion and seems to me he's very much close to the cross/salvation.


as for me, JESUS IS MY LORD

My dear atheist,

I agree that there is no God. What about voodoo magic? What about metaphisal power.

Yorubas sight incantations to Aje/witches, Orunmila, Osun and it works. Money rituals, Bullet proofs e.t.c. Can you scientist, atheist explain them ? Nope.

laughing here.

And the source of these evil spirit was accounted for by the bible.

Atheist are disillusioned set of people. Most celebrity atheist belongs to one spritual secret society and the other. They claimed to be atheist and worship Lucifer, Illuminati, Satan.

But embryonic atheists dont even know what atheism entails.

What a shallow thinking mind you atheists indeed possesses? Dont be foolish in reasoning mehn, how do you explain the balances in nature itself?
Have you wondered what planet earth would've looked like if the the sun was a meter closer to the earth or a meter away?
Have you once asked yourself what force is holding the sun, moon, earth and the whole planets from falling, they are all suspended on space by which force? And what is the source of those forces?
You believe in the law of gravity and believe it is responsible for some natural activities but could you please tell me what exactly is the source of that law of gravity, where does it derive it's force from, or should we start talking about the lithosphere, atmosphere and oxygen etc, what exactly is their source?
You believe in evolution that man originated from ape, so why is there are there still thousand of apes around us, why did'nt they all turn human, or were their ancestors not in existance when your real ancestors of apes were gradually transforming into human?

Please be reasonable for once and save yourself from your very own trap of your mind (DELUSION)
Have you ever asked yourself the following question? ''What if i were wrong, what if actually there's a God who created the whole universe, what if there's actually life after death, what would be my fate being that i rejected the existance of this mighty supreme being?''
If you have'nt asked yourself the following question, then i bet you would do exactly that on your dying bed''
Enough said!