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Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by AOmega: 11:35pm On Mar 24, 2012
Did Jesus Really Exist? Where is the proof from non-Bible sources that he is real?

These questions and others like it are often asked by Bible skeptics and atheists alike. This article will show that not only is there historical evidence (from secular sources as well as Christian) that Jesus Christ was real and existed, but also that Jesus Christ is the most documented and historically verifiable figure in antiquity.

http://beginningandend.com/jesus-exist-historical-evidence-jesus-christ/
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Callotti: 4:18am On Mar 25, 2012
He existed alright.
As for proof?
Without the Bible?

That wan go hard o! cheesy
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by vb0mb(m): 6:37am On Mar 25, 2012
Did my great-great-great grand father exist? I dont know because there is no written record about him.
@op, hw ar u sure u are existing?

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Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by dekung(m): 7:27am On Mar 25, 2012
A-Omega:
Did Jesus Really Exist? Where is the proof from non-Bible sources that he is real?

These questions and others like it are often asked by Bible skeptics and atheists alike. This article will show that not only is there historical evidence (from secular sources as well as Christian) that Jesus Christ was real and existed, but also that Jesus Christ is the most documented and historically verifiable figure in antiquity.

http://beginningandend.com/jesus-exist-historical-evidence-jesus-christ/
Historical sources prove nothing of Jesus existence. It is even almost impossible when you subject his existence to genetic query. In genetics of human, a physically normal human being has 23 pairs of chromosomes 23 from the father (who determines the gender by either contributing the X or Y chromosomes) and 23 from the mother. If Jesus existed he would have just 23 from Mary alone and he probably would be malformed. You cn argue that he could still have been possible but look people with downsyndrome, they have just one extra pair of chromosomes hence the reason for their look. The above then raises the question 'where did Jesus get the remaining 23 chromosomes to make up the complete set', if he got it from the holy spirit then the holy spirit is 'material' hence could be touched and seen nd is carbon based because it simple means the holy spirit has cells and functions like a normal human or is even a normal human because he provided the Y chromosome that made jesus a man. This thus makes me conclude that genetically speaking Jesus' existence was impossible and if he existed then he wasnt divine.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Image123(m): 7:35am On Mar 25, 2012
Jesus is the Bible. You can't separate Jesus from the Bible. By the way, you need more education if you're still unsure of Jesus' existence. You're not 'well read'.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Ameh02(m): 8:07am On Mar 25, 2012
Most likely u re a sciencist or an aitheist. The things of God Such as d existence of Xt cannot be explained n understood by mere human understanding. The scientist believe dat human being re d product of evolution, maybe from tarpoles, but what did the tarpoles evolve from? What about d trees, the oceans and all the other natural things such as air, where did they evolve from? God made them all and the proof can be found in the bible. If u don't have a bible get one and read Matthew 24:3-end and you will discover that the events of the world have been prophesied by Jesus over 2,000 yrs ago. Remain blessed.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Ameh02(m): 8:13am On Mar 25, 2012
Josephus n Philo re jewish historians one of them witnessed d distruction of jerusalem by d romans n both wrote extensively but seperately about the life n time of Jesus.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 8:21am On Mar 25, 2012
Image123: Jesus is the Bible. You can't separate Jesus from the Bible. By the way, you need more education if you're still unsure of Jesus' existence. You're not 'well read'.
is that your answer to the above question? smh
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by hakunajay(m): 8:27am On Mar 25, 2012
Ameh02: Most likely u re a sciencist or an aitheist. The things of God Such as d existence of Xt cannot be explained n understood by mere human understanding. The scientist believe dat human being re d product of evolution, maybe from tarpoles, but what did the tarpoles evolve from? What about d trees, the oceans and all the other natural things such as air, where did they evolve from? God made them all and the proof can be found in the bible. If u don't have a bible get one and read Matthew 24:3-end and you will discover that the events of the world have been prophesied by Jesus over 2,000 yrs ago. Remain blessed.


please what is the meaning of Xt?
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by nicey1d: 12:34am On Mar 26, 2012
The truth is Jesus really exist without claims from the bible. The event of Jesus Christ is an open event and not a hidden or secret one, it occured in lsreal and there is no doubt by those people about his existence because they saw him and crucify him. The history of lsreal have not and can never deny it. That is why we see people who do not believe in him are still writting about him and some of his deeds. THE EXISTENSE OF JESUS IS TRUE.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 12:41am On Mar 26, 2012
nicey1d: The truth is Jesus really exist without claims from the bible. The event of Jesus Christ is an open event and not a hidden or secret one, it occured in lsreal and there is no doubt by those people about his existence because they saw him and crucify him. The history of lsreal have not and can never deny it. That is why we see people who do not believe in him are still writting about him and some of his deeds. THE EXISTENSE OF JESUS IS TRUE.
Can you provide proof? Where is the without the bible proof?
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by chimauga(m): 6:14am On Mar 26, 2012
i wonder what ppl say about my jesus, since we cant use bible to prove it then let use koran, i know that jesus in koran was called "isa" and his mother Mary is called " miriam" in koran , even judaism recoggnised him, but the only issue is that they did not belive he is a prophet, ok even if he did not exist why is it that if u mention jesus , mistirious thing will happen @ dark world
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by nicey1d: 8:40am On Mar 26, 2012
mkmyers45: Can you provide proof? Where is the without the bible proof?
Chima_uga said something, he said; even the quran agreed about his existense and a guy also posted links where non christians talked about his existense which are true. If all these are not enough for you, go to lsreal and confirm yourself.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Image123(m): 10:56am On Mar 26, 2012
Mungo Park is the first person to discover River Niger, he must have been a comedian.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by rabzy: 1:49pm On Mar 26, 2012
It would take powers greater than that wielded by Jesus to create a fictional Jesus and for the whole world to be deceived by a few insignificant men with no political power and in the midst of literate opponents (jews and romans) to a figure whose followers shook the roman empire. For those men to face ridicule, persecution and be ready to lay down their lives and those of their family on a concocted story is just impossible.

The fact of Jesus existence is unassailable.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mazaje(m): 2:03pm On Mar 26, 2012
rabzy: The fact of Jesus existence is unassailable.

It is, and it has. . . .http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/jesus_myth_history.htm#2. . .
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Gbamar(f): 2:28pm On Mar 26, 2012
Yes jesus christ (prophet ISA) the son of Mary really exist. It was even be proved by the QURAN.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mazaje(m): 3:15pm On Mar 26, 2012
^^

Visnu definitely exist, it was proven by the verders. . .
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 3:51pm On Mar 26, 2012
mazaje: ^^

Visnu definitely exist, it was proven by the verders. . .
Exactly...Everybody writes,talks and confirm santa does that mean he is real?
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Image123(m): 12:48pm On Mar 27, 2012
grin grin mazaje, i checked your link, shallow as forethought. Rationale there is that if Bible passages are similar or the same, one writer MUST have copied the other. If they are not the same or seem contradictory, then the Bible is fiction, and the writers were unaware of the happenings in the other books. Suit yourself and wear a cute bowtie to boot, none of these things move me.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by OmoAlata(f): 9:10am On Aug 16, 2012
mkmyers45: Exactly...Everybody writes,talks and confirm santa does that mean he is real?

What!!!! You mean Santa is not real?? shocked cry cry cry
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Joagbaje(m): 9:30am On Aug 16, 2012
Did Jesus Really Exist? Where is the proof from non-Bible sources that he is real?

The simplest way to know is in the calendar. what year are we? 2012. This shows the number of years after christ was crucified.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 11:47am On Aug 16, 2012
Omo Alata:

What!!!! You mean Santa is not real?? shocked cry cry cry
Ask him when you see him grin grin
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 11:52am On Aug 16, 2012
Joagbaje:

The simplest way to know is in the calendar. what year are we? 2012. This shows the number of years after christ was crucified.
that is it? Using the gregorian calendar? What of the armenian,syrian,Ba'hia,Berber,Buddhist,Chinese and so many other calendars?
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Delafruita(m): 12:23pm On Aug 16, 2012
Ameh02: Josephus n Philo re jewish historians one of them witnessed d distruction of jerusalem by d romans n both wrote extensively but seperately about the life n time of Jesus.
if there's one thing i detest,its the deliberate dissemination of false information.the jewish revolt was in 70AD and according to the bible,jesus was crucified either 28AD or 39AD.
its not philo,its phinyl the elder and he was born around 24AD and he died when mount vesuvius erupted in 79AD.pliny never recorded a single word about jesus.his nephew,pliny the younger did make certain records that mentioned jesus sometime between 100-112AD when he died.josephus flavius mention jesus in just a paragraph out of all his extensive writing and even this wasnt until 90AD and even the construction of the paragraph indicates that josephus was making the reference based on what others were saying.josephus was born after jesus supposedly died.
its strange that the only historians who mentione jesus and romans.no single jewish historian mentioned him.seneca was born before herod died and lived till about 60AD and he never mentioned anything about jesus.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Delafruita(m): 1:20pm On Aug 16, 2012
chima-uga:
i wonder what ppl say about my jesus, since we cant use bible to prove it then let use koran, i know that jesus in koran was called "isa" and his mother Mary is called " miriam" in koran , even judaism recoggnised him, but the only issue is that they did not belive he is a prophet, ok even if he did not exist why is it that if u mention jesus , mistirious thing will happen @ dark world
the quran was written in the 7th century while the bible was written in the 4th century.wouldnt it make sense to assume muhammad,been a scholar read about jesus?moreso since the arabian world was largely catholic at the time?
about mysterious things,its a component of various other religion.
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by Delafruita(m): 1:23pm On Aug 16, 2012
Joagbaje:

The simplest way to know is in the calendar. what year are we? 2012. This shows the number of years after christ was crucified.
very ridiculous.muslims use the hijrah calendar and that doesnt make you believe in mohammad's migration from makkah to abyssinia or its significance
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by dekung(m): 10:37am On Aug 17, 2012
Ameh02: Josephus n Philo re jewish historians one of them witnessed d distruction of jerusalem by d romans n both wrote extensively but seperately about the life n time of Jesus.
Could you please provide proof of what you wrote? Josephus wrote just a little more than one line about Jesus, is that what you call extensive?
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by rabzy: 12:18am On Aug 18, 2012
Because you can't find secular historians talking about Jesus is no prove that he does not exist. Jesus lived in a tiny areA of a largely insignficant part of the roman empire.

The jews had no reason to publicise him, they hated him and if he did not exist, the jews would have been the first to raise the alarm when they were trying to cruSh early xtianity.

Pilate was a roman official, the whole record about him is less than that for JeSus. You can hardly find anything about him. In fact for many yrs xtics said he never existed because the only record of Him was in the Bible until they saw a tiny mention of him elsewhere

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Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by rabzy: 12:36am On Aug 18, 2012
The earliest histories about alexander the great was written by arian and plutarch and that was 400 years afte his death but no one disputes that he was a historical figure
Re: Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without The Bible by mkmyers45(m): 6:21am On Aug 18, 2012
rabzy: The earliest histories about alexander the great was written by arian and plutarch and that was 400 years afte his death but no one disputes that he was a historical figure
He led wars and campaigns thats diffrent..

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