dapo338: Everyday, Love is been discussed or said one way or the other, A lot of opinions are shared. Some says Love is blind while some will never agree. "Is there really love without money" what do u think?

toyemz: ^^^^
well said sir

thank you

~Killz~:

There is Love without money. Money sustains that love.

Love for her will make you realize that you need money for her upkeep.

If you do not take care of her, who will?

To take care of her, you need money.

She loves you none the less, but then hunger can also kill her

. . . Therefore, while Love can exist without money, money still has a vital role to play!

MRbrownJAY:

as much as money can help love "feel" better, it has absolutely NO WEIGHT on the issue. if it does then surely this CANNOT be love.



what about:" her love for you will have her sort out her own upkeep to help your r/ship"? lol! whoever told you that a man should take care of a gal's upkeep is clearly missing the point. Love has absolutely nothing to do with what you can do for her BUT all to do with what you both can do for each other. the minute her life/upkeep is more important than yours then it is no more LOVE, but simple foolishness.



- her self.
- her parents.
- whoever took care of these issues before you met her, duh!



NO, you dont! you only need care and affection. but you're right about ONE THING: to take care of a broke ass golddigger, you need money, yes!



so in a way what you are saying is that a man in love should provide for his partners meals and upkeep? may i ask: since love is 50/50, does SHE also provide for the same thing? or are all gals broke ass begging women in your part of town?
nothing can kill faster than loving someone who doesnt really care about you, or only care about what she can GET from you.




money has absolutely NO ROLE to play in love. here is what you should have understood by now:
- if you love someone and you are not "well off financially", you simply have to share YOUR own meal with her, to show her that you love her (not provide her with her own).
- if you rock a Nokia 5110 and she demands for a BB, simply tell her that she can use your own phone whenever she desires (instead of thinking you need to buy her one)
- if she cant pay her school fees then help her find a job and take care of this issue (instead of paying for it, while not solving the problem at hand).

again, love is about caring, NOT providing a easy way out of poverty for goldigging broke asss babes

~Killz~:

My reply wasn't based on goldigging broke arse babes, but rather, on a wife. I strongly believe in spending on the woman i'm married to and not just a girlfriend. . . Most of your points were off! You may want to reply based on "she" being a wife! Then we can talk at length.
I had a thread not too far back where i aired my views about Love Money and Relationships! Your reply was totally out of my context, as i would never encourage spending on "just" a girl!

MRbrownJAY:

i see no difference between such love being for a GF, a future wife or a wife.

if you have no money to buy her a meal then SHARE YOURS WITH HER.

if you have no money for a BB, then SHARE YOUR NOKIA 5110 WIT HER.

if you have no money for school fees the HELP HER GET A JOB TO SOLVE THAT.

......and my point is that: no way should these flimsy issues be a reason for this lady (gf/future wife or wifey) to fall out of love.......if it is then she never loved him to begin with (or clearly has no idea what love is).

kelz88: Some relationships can survive without money. What about the couple from under the bridge?

LMAO! Are they still there? What rescued them? MONEY! Does it mean they love each other less? NO! But without money coming their way, i bet you'd have read their obituaries. . .

~Killz~:

There is a difference. . . Except you refuse to see it!

Whatever is yours is hers also. You do not buy separate meals when you are married. The point of Marriage is sharing. Where you'll hate yourself is when you do not even have money at all. . . Pray she's the supportive type!

Irrelevant! We can live without gadgets! BB is not a must!What is BB?

What school fees?

The filmsy issues should not be reasons, but these are reasons why most relationships fold up. U wanna argue that too? It's better to be on a safer side! Even if i love her to death, i should care for her needs. Emotional needs, and material needs. You wanna argue that material needs are not important? Or that we can live on emotions alone? Money is essential!

kelz88: Not really. Some Nigerians are still very poor and still very much alive.

BodyKiss:

Money is essential = There's no love without money.

~Killz~:

Being very poor doesn't mean they do not have money or does it? It only means they are living on very low resources. You can have a Job and still be very poor, or can't you?

kelz88: But you're the one talking about providing stuff. Some people manage to eat once a day and are still together. The wives haven't left to follow rich men. The woman might be the one managing to find this once a day meal. . . .so. . . . . To me money is important but if we happen not to have money for some reason I will still love my husband or boyfriend. As long as we can find a way to laugh at the situation whilst being hopeful. Or maybe I'm just dreaming. After all I'm half asleep as I type.

~Killz~:

There is a difference. . . Except you refuse to see it!

Whatever is yours is hers also. You do not buy separate meals when you are married. The point of Marriage is sharing. Where you'll hate yourself is when you do not even have money at all. . . Pray she's the supportive type!

The filmsy issues should not be reasons, but these are reasons why most relationships fold up. U wanna argue that too? It's better to be on a safer side! Even if i love her to death, i should care for her needs. Emotional needs, and material needs. You wanna argue that material needs are not important? Or that we can live on emotions alone? Money is essential!

~Killz~:

LMAO! Are they still there? What rescued them? MONEY! Does it mean they love each other less? NO! But without money coming their way, i bet you'd have read their obituaries. . .

~Killz~:

That is you! And that is what i'm saying, craving the right attitude towards money. Without the money, the love is there. So, because the love is there, should i relax and allow love to feed you, even once a day? Right attitude towards money is using it to provide. Not providing doesn't portray love. Being hopeful for what? Money?

Don't get it twisted. Money doesn't mean Millions!

Or should the Op have asked Is there really love without material things? I think that would m\have been more appropriate! I see you are confusing money to mean material things like a car, a big house blah blah! That's not the wavelength i'm broadcasting from!

MRbrownJAY:

bro, are you saying that the love that a GF has before you get married, is different than the love she would have for you just after she says I Do? lol!

Like i said in the last phrase of my first reply to you, "i would never encourage spending on "just" a girl!" Would "just" a girl become my wife?

now we are getting somewhere.....so as i said: her character is what is important, not what she demands from you financially...... if she aint supportive then she never loved you to begin with. like someone said above, the couple who were living under a bridge is a clear example of what love SHOULD make any women do when the money is gone. STAND BY YOUR MAN/FAMILY!

YES you should care for her needs, as she care for yours! and if you cant then that SHOULDNT be the reason for her to lose love for you. if such flimsy excuse is the reason for the end of that love then she never loved you to begin with.

yes many foolish people are quick to say "i love you" while they dont have a clue of its meaning (and use flimsy excuse to bounce), BUT, that shouldnt be a reason for you to judge what you have with them. if anyone understands love then they will work hard to make it last, whether with or without money.

focus on the issue at hand: their LOVE stood the time, whether they died or not. money helped them but it sure didnt change their stand on each other's love. which is the subject of this thread, duh!
so by that story we can clearly understand that MONEY meant absolutely NOTHING to their LOVE!

kelz88: Ok, going back to the couple I mentioned are you saying they survived on right attitude? I'm sorry but people in that kinda situation will be resigned to their fate. It's not like he was a graduate and was hopeful that one day bag an awesome job or something like that. That's how I see it sha.

~Killz~:

So he had no job and got married? Wickedness!

kelz88: Even if they didn't have money to buy food and continued to receive leftovers from a nearby house I'm sure they would still be together.

How long were they expecting the leftovers to keep flowing? Why are they so lazy? If they failed to plan, they've planned to fail! If they were still together, that is love without money that i explained earlier, they still need money to keep them going at a point or are they depending on leftovers for the rest of their lives? Money has to come o!

Or, is that a scene from a Nigerian Movie, where everything turns out fine in the end?

kelz88: Stop going off topic lol. What if they were never married -legally? Doesn't make a difference. Some people get together and live on nothing. These things happen.

It CANT happen! Get together and live on NOTHING!. . . Sounds like a movie title!

Seriously, all the ones i've seen are from legally married couples. Have you seen where two jobless individuals who are not legally married, come together and decide to live on nothing? Abeg, let's be factual o. . . In 2012? Where relationship between co habiting couples are ended on the flimsiest of excuses such as "The way she presses toothpaste?" Jor o!

shut up. You don ever spend on your bobo before? gold-diggerdiamond excavator like you. Orisirisi.

toyemz: @debrake




since i dont know the real reason behind your rudeness i wont stoop to your level,
However, i will say this to you,not all fingers are equal and not all ladies are gold diggers!
but you wouldnt know that, would you? [size=15pt]since in your miserable terrible existence there has never been a time when any lady ever dug any gold out of you,has there?, since you have nothing to contribute[/size]
Having said this much, here's my challenge if you desperately need help with your mite existence,why dont you just ask in the nicest possible way? it really isnt hard to have manners,you can always learn!

seek with manners and you shall surely find!

~Killz~:

Like i said in the last phrase of my first reply to you, "i would never encourage spending on "just" a girl!" Would "just" a girl become my wife?

Who is asking you not to stand by your family? So because the money is gone, you won't find a way to sustain your family or what exactly are you saying?

Did you not read my first reply where i said "There is love without money?" What i'm driving at is that you NEED money to feed, and that is where/how money sustains love. Dont twist things here pls!/size][/color

[color=#000030][size=11pt]Again, it shouldn't be a reason. If you CANNOT care for a woman, you never loved her to begin with. . . Deny that again!

Yeah work hard. That's more like it. Work hard, earn sustain and be happy! I hate lazy men that believe once she loves you, she can go hungry!

Differentiate between money and Materialism and then, maybe you would understand better! While living under the bridge, were they eating sand? With what did they buy food? Money?

REALITY101: Love without money? Well incomplete love. . Ever wondered why some rich parents forbids their children marring the girl from not so rich home?

MRbrownJAY:

IMHO probably because:
- they want their child to marry UP, not down.
- they believe that each should bring the same amount to the table (aka wealth) because they "assume" they worked too damn hard to see their wealth going to a poor gal (who may be here simply for the money/status)
- they think that a poor gal wouldnt be equal (status wise) with them or understand their way of life.
- they believe that a poor gal wouldnt have the CLASS they require to enter their bloodline.
- thats the kind of gal they require for they child.......its called preferences.