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|Re: Christian Terrorists! by pilgrim.1(f): 7:10pm On Nov 16, 2007|
Lol. . . actually, he referred them to the lost Torah and Injil which Muslims today are still busy looking for. Fed up with the wild goose chase, they are creeping over to borrow some Biblical terms. Indeed, Muhammad has made their religion "easy"!
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by combatant: 8:13pm On Nov 16, 2007|
Jesus NEVER instructed anyone to write or in how to write the books of the bible. Jesus Christ has given each and everyone of us the freewill to act as either our fallen nature or the Holy Spirit leads us. T[b]he books of the bible were inspired by His spirit IN the hearts of those who wrote the books that make up the bible[/b]. There was no code of conduct telling them what and how to write.
Did you say inspiration. Is the bible 100% inspired?
You don't need a yes or no answer . . . because the scriptures are of no value to you just as jewels are of no value to a pig no matter how loudly it asks for a yes or no answer to whether jewels are expensive or not.
I need yes or no answer in order to move forward.
there are no different versions. Only the versions muslims wish to see.
This quote is not to be found in the hadith or quran. It is a quote that is lifted wholy from the very same bible you claim has been corrupted, unispired by the Holy Ghost and written down by mere mortals. How then can you quote it without exposing yourself as a hypocrite?
You may continue round in circle. I only responded to what Nwando posted.
Another quote lifted directly from the very gospels you claim has been lost or corrupted. Why do muslims speak from both sides of the mouth? Where in the quran did Allah claim to be able to forgive you your sins?
But I showed you some missing verses huh. Do you still need any further exposure?
Thanks but it has been helping me
Have a lovely day
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by davidylan(m): 8:58pm On Nov 16, 2007|
combatant, there really is no substance in your last reply. Its the same dancing around the issues and conveying very little.
Is the bible 100% inspired - yes sir.
You showed me "missing verses" and i showed you they are not missing but indicated in the footnotes. The original manuscripts from which the bible is translated are available for you to see. that Mr. A chooses to remove Gen 1.1 from his own (NOTE the emphasis on HIS OWN) published version of the bible does not make the original invalid.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by combatant: 10:54am On Nov 17, 2007|
combatant, there really is no substance in your last reply. Its the same dancing around the issues and conveying very little.
Let me put your IQ to a test. You claimed that both the OT and NT are 100% inspired.
I wont first ask you to explain some verses called 'inspired verses' in the OT but will start from Paul which you so much value his sayings even when he contradicted Jesus.
According to 2 Timothy 3 v 16 that says all scripture is given by inspiration, do we say the below saying of Paul is inspired?
"But I speak this by permission and not by commandment." 1 Corinthians 7:6 "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord." 1 Corinthians 7:12 "That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord" 2 Corinthians.
Paul in the above verse made us know that he was not under any inspiration when he made that statement and you are here saying it was 100% inspired. I only gave you that out of very many very verses.
You said that it is 100% inspired and I want to ask you the position of the holy spirit that ought to have inspired them not to contradict themselves in verses below:
When did the fig tree hear of its doom?
Matthew 21:17-19 Jesus cursed the fig tree after purging the temple.
Mark 11:14-15 & 20 He cursed it before the purging.
Who was the father of Joseph?
Matthew 1:16 The father of Joseph was Jacob.
Luke 3 :23 The father of Joseph was Heli.
Note that Christians shall try to lie and tell you that one is the heritage of Mary and the other Joseph. The Hebrew and Greek cultures never regarded the bloodline of the mother. They were patriarchal societies which only concerned themselves with paternal lineage.
How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ?
Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations,
Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations.
You showed me "missing verses" and i showed you they are not missing but indicated in the footnotes.
Please why did they indicate important verses in the footnotes and why are they not part of the main verses.
Does the original manuscript has same indicated in the footnotes?
The original manuscripts from which the bible is translated are available for you to see. that Mr. A chooses to remove Gen 1.1 from his own (NOTE the emphasis on HIS OWN) published version of the bible does not make the original invalid.
I thought you claimed that the bible is 100% inspired and you are making me see that it wasnt inspired at all. If it was inspired, the holuy spirit should have guided them and would not have been making mistakes, plagiarising from each other.
Do we have the important verses including that of ascension indicated in the footnote or part of the main verse?
A word is enough for the wise
Have a lovely day
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by pilgrim.1(f): 10:54pm On Nov 17, 2007|
Lol. . . you're a miserable cheat!
What did your Qur'an claim? Did Muhammad not claim that the Torah (the Law), Injil (Gospel), Zabur (the Psalms), and all the "other Scriptures" of ALL the prophets were "revealed" by Allah?
Your silly bloviates simply confirmed the hypocrisy of Muslims and the inconsistencies in Muhammad's pretending "inspired" revelations.
If Allah did not inspire the Biblical Scriptures, WHY did Muhammad claim that they were revealed by Allah?
It is either he was as confused as his tales about Moses slapping the angel of death and wounding one of the angel's eyes; or Muslims stand so embarrassed they wished Muhammad never mentioned anything about the Biblical prophets!
You guys are so dense that your frantic dramas would hit Comedy Central!
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Horus(m): 12:24am On Nov 18, 2007|
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by olabowale(m): 12:42am On Nov 18, 2007|
@Combatant: Please do not upset our dearest sister Pilgrim.1. Don't take her to task on so many issues at the same time. She will then cherrypick whatever from it.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by olabowale(m): 12:47am On Nov 18, 2007|
@Davidylan: Your medical Book, what if a disease like cancer is reduced to footnote, yet it is still a top killer, because there is no cure for it. How will the medical community treat such a decision, by the publisher, author, etc? We are talking about Word of God here, being reduced to footnotes?
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by pilgrim.1(f): 1:40am On Nov 18, 2007|
Lol. . . combatant has never been a challenge to me. And no, I don't cherrypick issue to discuss; and you guys should be wondering about your penchant to pretend blindness at not seeing that most of your worries have been dealt with in other threads.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by jerrymania(m): 6:51pm On Nov 18, 2007|
so a muslim can consider the Bible to be the Word of God.amazing.so where does your Koran fit in? Word of, ?
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by olabowale(m): 7:20pm On Nov 18, 2007|
@Jerrymani; I know its difficult. Please, and please again, always put your thinking cap on before responding. Did you see the question marks? It is not that I agree, but neading davidylan to fessup. He knows, but you don't know.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by pilgrim.1(f): 7:35pm On Nov 18, 2007|
Please hush and cease from the hypocrisy! Your Qur'an clearly refer to the Biblical documents as the word of Allah:
Sura 2:75 (Shakir's translation)
Do you then hope that they would believe in you,
and a party from among them indeed used to hear the Word of Allah,
then altered it after they had understood it, and they know (this).
You often try to argue away from the bold facts in your Qur'an and then try to cheat your readers as if they can't check you up.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by shawn123: 10:43am On Nov 23, 2007|
Funny how Olabowale alone could handlle all your doubts. Funny enough going through all the post, he gave answers to all your questions. that is just one man in a billion. think about that. going though the threads, here is something amazing i found. i am presently cross checking with facts. Guys i think your arguements would have more weights if you used the quran and the bible, that is quotes from these books.
here is what i found.
101 Contradictions In The Bible
1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
7.How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
8.The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
(a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:
(b) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
9.When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
(a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
(b) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
10.How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
(a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
(b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
11.When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
(b) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
(a) Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
(b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
13.In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
(a) Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:
(b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
14.How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
(a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
(b) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
15.Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
(a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
(b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
16.Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
(a) Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
(b) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
17.How many were the children of Zattu?
(a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
(b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
18.How many were the children of Azgad?
(a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
(b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
19.How many were the children of Adin?
(a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
(b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
20.How many were the children of Hashum?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
(b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
21.How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
(b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
22.Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
(a) 29,818 (Ezra)
(b) 31,089 (Nehemiah)
23.How many singers accompanied the assembly?
(a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
(b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)
24.What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
(a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
(b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter
whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)
25.Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
(a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
(b) No (Joshua 15:63)
26.Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
(a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
(b) Hell (Luke 3:23)
27.Jesus descended from which son of David?
(a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
(b) Nathan (Luke3: 31)
28.Who was the father of Shealtiel?
(a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
(b) Neri’ (Luke 3:27)
29.Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
(a) Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
(b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) but the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i. Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v. Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
30.Who was the father of Uzziah?
(a) Joram (Matthew 1:
(b) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)
31.Who as the father of Jechoniah?
(a) Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
(b) Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)
32.How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?
(a) Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
(b) But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)
33.Who was the father of Shelah?
(a) Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
(b) Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)
34.Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
(a) Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
(b) No (John 1:19-21)
(a) Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
(b) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne (Jeremiah 36:30)
36.Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
(a) One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). “And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.”
(b) Two - a colt and an Bottom (Matthew 21:7). “They brought the Bottom and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.”
37.How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
(a) By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
(b) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)
38.Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
(a) By the Sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
(b) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)
39.When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus’ daughter already dead?
(a) Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, “My daughter has just died.”
(b) No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, “My little daughter is at the point of death.”
40.Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
(a) Yes (Mark6:
(b) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)
41.Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
(a) Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
(b) No (Luke 9:9)
42.Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
(a) Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
(b) No (John 1:32,33)
43.Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
(a) Yes (John 1:32, 33)
(b) No (Matthew 11:2)
44.According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
(a) “If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true” (John 5:3 1)
(b) “Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true” (John 8:14)
45.When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
(a) Yes (Matthew 21:12)
(b) No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17).
46.The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?
(a) Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
(b) No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)
47.Did Judas kiss Jesus?
(a) Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
(b) No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)
48.What did Jesus say about Peter’s denial?
(a) “The rooster will not crow till you have denied me three times” (John 13:38).
(b) “Before the rooster crows twice you will deny me three times” (Mark 14:30). When the rooster crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
49.Did Jesus bear his own cross?
(a) Yes (John 19:17)
(b) No (Matthew 27:31-32)
50.Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
(a) Yes (Matthew27: 50-5 1;MarklS: 37-38)
(b) No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)
51.Did Jesus say anything secretly?
(a) No. “I have said nothing secretly” (John 18:20)
(b) Yes. “He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything” (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him “Why do you speak to them in parables?” He said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given” (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)
52.Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
(a) On the cross (Mark 15:23)
(b) In Pilate’s court (John 19:14)
53.The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?
(a) Yes (Mark 15:32)
(b) No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)
54.Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
(a) Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, “Today you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43)
(b) No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, “I have not yet ascended to the Father” (John 20:17)
55.When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?
(a) Yes (Acts9: 7)
(b) No (Acts22: 9)
12.How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
35.Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
56.When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?
(a) Yes (Acts 26:14)
(b) No (Acts 9:7)
57.Did the voice spell out on the spot what Paul’s duties were to be?
(a) Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
(b) No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he
must do. (Acts9: 7; 22: 10)
58.When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?
(a) Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
(b) Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:
59.How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
(a) Seventy souls (Genesis 4&27)
(b) Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)
60.What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
(a) He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
(b) He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)
61.How did Judas die?
(a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
(b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
62.Why is the field called “Field of Blood”?
(a) Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:
(b) Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)
63.Who is a ransom for whom?
(a) “The Son of Man came, to give his life as a ransom for many” (Mark 10:45). “Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all, “(I Timothy 2:5-6)
(b) “The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright” (Proverbs 21:18)
64.Is the Law of Moses useful?
(a) Yes. “All scripture is, profitable, ” (2 Timothy 3:16)
(b) No. “ . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness, “(Hebrews 7:18)
65.What was the exact wording on the cross?
(a) “This is Jesus the King of the Jews” (Matthew 27:37)
(b) “The King of the Jews” (Mark 15:26)
(c) “This is the King of the Jews” (Luke 23:38)
(d) “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews” (John 19:19)
66.Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
(a) Yes (Matthew 14:5)
(b) No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)
67.Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
(a) Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
(b) Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Luke’s gospel (Luke 6:12-16)
68.Jesus saw a man sit at the tax collector’s office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?
(a) Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
(b) Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)
69.Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
(a) After (Mark 14:12-17)
(b) Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilate’s judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)
70.Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
(a) Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
(b) No. (John 12:27)
71.In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did ‘he move away from his disciples to pray?
(a) Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
(b) One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)
72.Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?
(a) Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark
(b) Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)
73.What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
(a) “Certainly this man was innocent” (Luke 23:47)
(b) “Truly this man was the Son of God” (Mark 15:39)
74.When Jesus said “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me? ” in what language did he speak?
(a) Hebrew: the words are “Eloi, Eloi…“(Matthew 27:46)
(b) Aramaic: the words are “Eloi, Eloi, “(Mark 15:34)
75.According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
(a) “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!” (Luke 23:46)
(b) "It is finished" (John 19:30).
76.When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
(a) Yes (Matthew 8:5)
(b) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)
77. (a) Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
(b) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)
78. (a) God decided that the life span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)
79.Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
(a) No (John 3:13)
(b) Yes. “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2 Kings 2:11)
80.Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?
(a) Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
(b) Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)
81.Was Jesus’ body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?
(a) Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
(b) No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices “so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus)” (Mark 16: 1)
82.When did the women buy the spices?
(a) After “the Sabbath was past” (Mark 16:1)
(b) Before the Sabbath. The women “prepared spices and ointments.” Then, “on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment” (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)
83.At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
(a) “Toward the dawn” (Matthew 28: 1)
(b) “When the sun had risen” (Mark 16:2)
84.What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
(a) To anoint Jesus’ body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
(b) To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
(c) For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)
85.A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?
(a) They saw that the stone was “Rolled back” (Mark 16:4) They found the stone “rolled away from the tomb” (Luke 24:2) They saw that “the stone had been taken away from the tomb” (John 20:1)
(b) As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)
86.Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus’ body?
(a) Yes. “A young man in a white robe” (Mark 16:5). “Two men , in dazzling apparel” later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5
(b) No. Mary met no one and returned saying, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him” (John 20:2)
87.When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?
(a) Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
(b) On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus’ body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him “Teacher.” Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, ” (John 20:11 to 17)
88.What was Jesus’ instruction for his disciples?
(a) “Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me” (Matthew 2 8: 10)
(b) “Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God” (John 20:17)
89.When did the disciples return to Galilee?
(a) Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee “some doubted” (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
(b) After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high” (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them “during forty days” (Acts 1:3), and “charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise , “(Acts 1:4)
90.To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
(a) “To the Ishmaelites” (Genesis 37:28)
(b) “To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh” (Genesis 37:36)
91.Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
(a) The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then “took Joseph to Egypt” (Genesis 37:28)
(b) “The Midianites had sold him in Egypt” (Genesis 37:36)
(c) Joseph said to his brothers “I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt” (Genesis 45:4)
92.Does God change his mind?
(a) Yes. “The word of the Lord came to Samuel: “I repent that I have made Saul King, ” (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
(b) No. God “will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent” (I Samuel 15:29)
(c) Yes. “And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel” (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:
i. “The Lord was sorry that he made man” (Genesis 6:6) “I am sorry that I have made them” (Genesis 6:7)
ii. “And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people” (Exodus 32:14).
iii. (Lots of other such references).
93.The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
(a) Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
(b) The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.
(a) David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
(b) Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)
94.Who killed Goliath?
95.Who killed Saul?
(a) “Saul took his own sword and fell upon it, Thus Saul died, (I Samuel 31:4-6)
(b) An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)
96.Does every man sin?
(a) Yes. “There is no man who does not sin” (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
(b) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. “Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God. (I John 5:1). “We should be called children of God; and so we are” (I John 3: 1). “He who loves is born of God” (I John 4:7). “No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God” (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! “If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (I John 1:
97.Who will bear whose burden?
(a) “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ” (Galatians 6:2)
(b) “Each man will have to bear his own load” (Galatians 6:5)
98.How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
(a) Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
(b) Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)
99.Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
(a) After his baptism, “the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days , (Mark 1:12-13)
(b) Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)
100.Was baby Jesus’ life threatened in Jerusalem?
(a) Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
(b) No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)
101.When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
(a) They worshipped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God” (Matthew 14:33)
(b) “They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened” (Mark 6:51-52)
28.Who was the father of Shealtiel?
(a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
(b) Neri’ (Luke 3:27)
29.Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
(a) Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
(b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) but the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i. Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii.
Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v. Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names
Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by cgift(m): 11:56am On Nov 23, 2007|
try and be a man. Come up with good points and lets take it one after the other. If i were you, assuming I have no dubious intentions, I would allow the issues to be handled in the original thread where it was established hy oyb.
Dont litter threads like a man that is under some epileptic seizures.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by combatant: 1:05pm On Nov 24, 2007|
I am here for you, lets take it one at time and let us see if you would be able to defend the contradictions.
Set the ball rolling, take them one at a time and we discuss.
Have a lovely day
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by mdsocks(m): 10:43am On Nov 27, 2007|
take a look at this pic
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by dot2002(m): 11:23am On Nov 27, 2007|
lynching! them KKK must cocky fools, to take those pics
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by olabowale(m): 5:53pm On Nov 27, 2007|
@Dot2002: Aren't you, being a woman, forget being a humanbeing, feel sad that
your sister, by gender alone, is being abused? Yet unfortunately, there was a single
courageous man to stand up for her? Think about it. What if that is your state of
affairs in the Kogi state of nigeria, where you reside? Would you be happy?
Personally, I detest all kinds of injustices. I always want to star from me. Checking
myself daily on my quality og behaviour. This has nothing to do with me being a
Muslim or not. It has to do with being concern and God consciousness.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by dot2002(m): 6:06pm On Nov 27, 2007|
what are u writing about Olabowale! i agree with everything you said I'm not happy my sister is being abused, I'm happy a man stood up for her, no i won't like such thing to happen in kogi.hope all these makes you happy,
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by davidif(m): 5:43am On Aug 27, 2008|
The bible says that "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by simmy(m): 1:09pm On Nov 04, 2008|
being a Xtian myself, i find it amazing when many xtians use double standards in judging issues. Xtian terroroists are people who terrorise other people while claiming to follow Christ. Simple. How are they different from Muslim terrorists? if you can somehow blame Islam for terrorism, why cant u blame Chrisitanity also?
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Abuzola(m): 7:06pm On Nov 16, 2009|
Christian Terrorists Kill 44, Wound 118 in Attacks in Northeast India-http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorists_kill_44.htm
GUWAHATI, India (AFP)
October 2, 2004
Some 44 people were killed and 118 wounded in three nearly simultaneous bomb blasts Saturday morning in Dimapur, Nagaland's commercial hub, in what a top official called the "worst ever terrorist strike" in the tiny state's history.
Gunmen in neighbouring Assam state later killed 15 villagers and injured a dozen more, police said.
"There were limbs everywhere and blood was splattered all over," said student leader T. Zheviho who was at crowded Dimapur railway station where one bomb exploded as passengers awaited a train.
Two other bombs went off in the Hong Kong market, which sells Chinese goods, and an adjacent market.
"I had a miraculous escape," Zheviho told AFP by telephone from Dimapur, 70 kilometers (45 miles) east of Nagaland capital Kohima.
Police said the plastic explosive RDX appeared to have been used in the railway blast that created a huge crater beside a platform.
"We found a briefcase with fuse wires, it contained RDX and a timer-device," V. Peseyie, Dimapur additional police chief, said.
Seventeen more people were killed in a wave of attacks in neighbouring Assam, police said.
Unidentified attackers raked shoppers with gunfire at a marketplace in Makri Jhora village, 290 kilometres (180 miles) west of Assam's main city of Guwahati, killing 11 and injuring about a dozen, police said.
The same gunmen later shot dead four more villagers in a nearby forest, police superintendent L. R. Bishnoi told AFP. Two more people were killed and 10 injured in two blasts in the Assamese district of Bongaingaon, 220 kilometres (136 miles) from Guwahati, Bishnoi said.
One person was killed and seven wounded in an earlier bomb blast in Assam.
Police also reported two other bombings in a village on the outskirts of Guwahati in which four people were injured.
There were no immediate claims of responsibility for the day of bloodshed in the insurgency-infested northeast where some 30 guerrilla groups are battling for greater autonomy or independence.
The attacks occurred as India marked the 135th anniversary of the birth of Mahatma Gandhi who waged a campaign of non-violence to free the country from British rule.
"It is distressing such violence broke out on the birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in the capital New Delhi.
Nagaland's ill-equipped hospitals battled to treat the wounded.
"Many have multiple face and abdomen wounds. They're in a state of trauma. We're trying to cope. We've never had such a devastating emergency," said doctor T. Lotha at a private hospital in Dimapur treating blast victims.
Nagaland Chief Minister Neibhiu Rio said at least 26 people were killed in the Dimapur blasts and another 86 were in hospital. "The death toll may go up as many are in a very critical condition," he said.
"This is the worst ever terrorist strike in Nagaland. People are still dealing with the shock -- they're not yet thinking about who to blame."
Mourners crowded churches across Nagaland, which is mostly Christian, to pray for the victims.
The blasts were the second major burst of violence in the northeast since mid-August. Fifteen people, many of them children, were killed in a rebel attack on an Independence Day parade in Assam August 15 for which the United Liberation Front of Asom claimed responsibility.
The armed insurgency in Nagaland began soon after much of the local population converted to Christianity. Many militant groups, seeking to secede from India to form an independent Christian state, are funded and armed by the Southern Baptist Church. Some of the groups such as the National Liberation Front of Tripura have been involved in a campaign of “gunpoint conversions” and “ethnic cleansing” of native non-Christians, which has left over 50,000 dead and many more refugees over the past two decades.
Why are American Christian fundamentalists become so cozy with Israel, which is the star of Biblical events and prophecy? Why do they think that the world war 3 is going to be between Russia and the Middle East? or they want iraq,iran,palestine e.t.c destroyed?
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Abuzola 1(m): 3:57pm On Nov 28, 2009|
They are terrorist
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Abuzola 1(m): 4:35pm On Dec 05, 2009|
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Beautymc(f): 7:25pm On Dec 06, 2009|
Abuzola 1:You people are terrorist, right from muhammed.
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by kola oloye(m): 3:13pm On Dec 07, 2009|
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by Abuzola !(m): 6:44pm On Jun 01, 2010|
|Re: Christian Terrorists! by 123jml: 4:13pm On Jun 30, 2010|
Na today you know.
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