anigbajumo:
yea buh try 2undstnd me.......I fink vehicle service is not base only on d instruction of manufacturer.......manufacturer dnt knw hw u ar using d vehicle nd manufacturer dnt knw d sign dat ur vehicle wil giv u dat determine service @dat particuar time......

Siena:


I'm glad you said "I think".

Manufacturers generally give 2 service types - normal and extreme use. They have already factored in some vehicles may cover up to 50,000 miles or more in a year. They are far from being stùpid, spending billions of dollars on Research & Development. Yet your "engineer" knows your vehicle better than the original designers.

So even if you cover 45,000 miles anually charging across the Sahara, driving from Lagos to London via Morocco, you would NOT need to change you oil every 6 weeks. No manufacturer specifies even up to 4 services in a year, regardless of how hard or far the vehicle is used.

There just isn't any financial or practical justification in carrying out an oil service every 6 months. As engines become more efficient, service intervals are getting shorter, meaning the maintenance costs are dropping too. In your case, yours are rising at an alarming rate.

By all means, continue changing your oil every 6 weeks. But just because you feel like doing so, not because the engine needs it! Besides, you never mentioned the signs your engine gives that it needs an oil service. What are these signs??

proo212:
@Siena, I'm looking for a facepalm emoticon and cant find one.....

anigbajumo:
yeap,4 proper nd 2make vehicle 2b in good condition dat s y da engineer told us 2do dat................dnt tell me dat dea s no vehicle manufactural specifiy 4 service in a year..pls go nd do ur reseach on Trucks dat cover thousansds of kilometer nd carry heavy Load....dnt 4gat Trucks iz mostly diesel engine

Do you drive a truck, carrying heavy loads, covering thousands of kilometres every year?? What car do you drive? I really wanna know which make "needs" an oil change every 6 weeks, so I can either avoid it, or buy one for research!

The point here is changing oil every 6 weeks. A Catapillar or other earth mover doesn't get it's oil changed that often.

I am a certified engineer, trained by the best out there - Audi, Toyota and Volkswagen. And Toyota is still enriching me with knowledge. I don't need to carry out any research on trucks or diesel engines, what I have posted here is based upon practical experience, both as an end-user and in the workshop. I manage a fleet of Toyota Hilux's that work in stone quarries, are overloaded and abused daily, tow heavy trailers up steep slopes with heavy plant on board, some are only 4 years old, yet have covered over 120,000 miles on normal servicing.

My own truck has covered 252,000 miles. 1 service per year, it previously belonged to a big construction firm. And yeah, a pesky diesel engine that has "missed" loads of oil changes, based upon your 6-weekly intervals. My poor engine must be dead!

Siena:


Do you drive a truck, carrying heavy loads, covering thousands of kilometres every year?? What car do you drive? I really wanna know which make "needs" an oil change every 6 weeks, so I can either avoid it, or buy one for research!

The point here is changing oil every 6 weeks. A Catapillar or other earth mover doesn't get it's oil changed that often.

I am a certified engineer, trained by the best out there - Audi, Toyota and Volkswagen. And Toyota is still enriching me with knowledge. I don't need to carry out any research on trucks or diesel engines, what I have posted here is based upon practical experience, both as an end-user and in the workshop. I manage a fleet of Toyota Hilux's that work in stone quarries, are overloaded and abused daily, tow heavy trailers up steep slopes with heavy plant on board, some are only 4 years old, yet have covered over 120,000 miles on normal servicing.

My own truck has covered 252,000 miles. 1 service per year, it previously belonged to a big construction firm. And yeah, a pesky diesel engine that has "missed" loads of oil changes, based upon your 6-weekly intervals. My poor engine must be dead!

anigbajumo:
Basically,da fact iz dat we av diffrnt vehicle usin diesel engin...both trucks nd car nd am tellng u hw we carried out service on them.My dad iz responsible 4 financial maintanance nd an their 4d supervision wif d engineer once it is time....Am telln what I used to practicalize,we av man diesel (12 tyres),95cf,85Xf nd mack (trailer) nd mercedez benz....They carry heavy Load evry week nd we carried out oil services as it was reconmended by our engineer......

Siena:


Great. I keep hearing what your "engineer" recommended, who has a vested financial interest in your vehicles.

What does your vehicle's manufacturer recommend, both for normal and extreme use? It's not a trick question, you're educating myself and other readers here.

anigbajumo:
I want u to undesrstand dis 3tips......u carried out vehicle services base on this.....usage of d vehicle,sign d vehicle shown 2u and third Recommendation frm d manufacturer........u keep on yerning on d manufacturer which is not so at times.....manufactuer does nt knw d sign ur vehicle shown 2u nd manufacturer does nt knw d way am using ur vehicle....if d vehicle breaks down nw,wil I take it 2manufacturer to repair it 4me?No is an engineer dat wil tell me what to do nd hw 2maintain it........dis is hw we carried out maintanance on our trucks. Nd it has neva disappointed us 4once..Even kudos 2our engineer out ther....

anigbajumo:
I want u to undesrstand dis 3tips......u carried out vehicle services base on this.....usage of d vehicle,sign d vehicle shown 2u and third Recommendation frm d manufacturer........u keep on yerning on d manufacturer which is not so at times.....manufactuer does nt knw d sign ur vehicle shown 2u nd manufacturer does nt knw d way am using ur vehicle....if d vehicle breaks down nw,wil I take it 2manufacturer to repair it 4me?No is an engineer dat wil tell me what to do nd hw 2maintain it........dis is hw we carried out maintanance on our trucks. Nd it has neva disappointed us 4once..Even kudos 2our engineer out ther....

Siena:


You still haven't explained the "signs" your vehicle gives to indicate it needs a service. What are these signs, so others reading know what to look out for?

The manufacturers of your vehicle are engineers, real ones too. They factor usage into the service recommendations. Heck, unless you run your engines on Palm Oil, 6-weekly intervals are way too frequent, and a waste of money.

Ikenna351:
Siena, you need to understand that its not just a diesel owners thing or anigbajumo issue. Majority, not even most, of Nigerians change their engine oils every 4 weeks-8weeks. Some would start crying as soon as it exceeds 12 weeks (3 months).

I have long time ago decided not let people live their lives the way they want. If changing their engine oils every week gives them peace of mind, its ok by me. Because even when you try to correct them, they would bring up their "mechanic" wants, weather or usage like the one going on here.

Personally, my concern is not the waste, but the abuse people met out on their vehicles in Nigeria.

Ikenna.

anigbajumo:
Exactly,u ar on da track....I unstand his point coz he keen on cost of service nd recommendation frm d manufacturer which iz nt da main issue at times,Jst tryng 2let him knw.

Ikenna351:


If you read post well, you would realize i did not support your position. My point was, if what & how your "engineer" wants you to own your vehicle is what you preferred to manufacturers instructions/recommendations, then carry on.

Ikenna

skyfall:
Anigbajumo,

Stop dwelling in ignorance. There is absolutely no reason why you should do an oil change of any car every 6 weeks.

Your so-called engineer has seen that you know next to nothing about cars and he's just scamming you.

skyfall:
Anigbajumo,

Stop dwelling in ignorance. There is absolutely no reason why you should do an oil change of any car every 6 weeks.

Your so-called engineer has seen that you know next to nothing about cars and he's just scamming you.

GAZZUZZ:
bauchi - lagos is 1070km. if i use full synthetic engine oil and i do the trip 2times a week (back and forth) (4000km per week) i would have covered 24,000km in 6weeks (4000km x 6) anigbajumo has a point only if he is a transporter.

modified. full synthetic on my vehicle should not exceed 10,000km before oil change.

GAZZUZZ:
bauchi - lagos is 1070km. if i use full synthetic engine oil and i do the trip 2times a week (back and forth) (4000km per week) i would have covered 24,000km in 6weeks (4000km x 6) anigbajumo has a point only if he is a transporter.

modified. full synthetic on my vehicle should not exceed 10,000km before oil change.

9icetoo:
Anigbajumo, I understand you. I was in your shoes before. However, I didn't know any better then. I accepted whatever the mechanic or my dad told me then. Now I know better. There are two angles to this. If you are using the manufacturers recommended engine oil, then I will have to tell you that you are wasting your money. I'd you are not using the manufacturers recommended oil, then consider the frequent oil change an insurance against wear and tear and breakdown. Diesel cars have longer oil change intervals compared to petrol cars. This is mainly because diesel has higher lubricating qualities than petrol. Diesel mixing with engine oil due to blowby is not as bad as petrol doing same. Petrol thins out engine oil, causes bore washout and the thinned out engine oil sometimes gets combusted and fouls catalytic converters. So there is no need changing your oil every six weeks unless you are not using the recommended engine oil.

GAZZUZZ:
bauchi - lagos is 1070km. if i use full synthetic engine oil and i do the trip 2times a week (back and forth) (4000km per week) i would have covered 24,000km in 6weeks (4000km x 6) anigbajumo has a point only if he is a transporter.

modified. full synthetic on my vehicle should not exceed 10,000km before oil change.

anigbajumo:
U gat it right bro,fact analysis......dat s y I keep on saying "usage of d vehicle determine oil services"

Siena:
Based upon 6-weekly oil change intervals in diesel engines in Nigeria, it's a wonder the average earner in Nigeria can actually afford to run such a vehicle.

Anigbajumo, where do you reside? I need to move closer to your neighbourhood, the earning potential there is huge! In 5 years, I could probably build a shopping complex, based upon 6-weekly oil changes in diesel-engined vehicles.

Even more financial benefits to be reaped from those who may just decide to convert their fleet of diesel-engined bulldozers, 18-wheeler rigs and Caterpillers to gasoline engines. There's a big gap in the market that needs to be filled.

lomomike:
Gazzuzz, smartchoices, collossus. CityNG, sultaan et al Come see o! Make una come learn how to go about wasting money servicing diesel engine every 6 weeks.

This is act 1 scene 1.


Spreads mat cos this is gonna be one hell of a long argument

Ikenna351:
To you, even if your engineer ask you to use groundnut oil in your engine, he must be right and not the manufacturer?

Ikenna

Jeeze, Ikenna! This really cracked me up. I laughed so long and loud, my fellow passengers in my train compartment are drifting to the next carriage, they look worried too.