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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CLINTONSOLJA(m): 9:23pm On Jul 06, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:07pm On Jul 06, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 10:42pm On Jul 06, 2015
tick:
Barcelona signs Arda Turan. Thank God. He's not what Chelsea needs.

But costa needed him for his kebabscheesy...lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 11:05pm On Jul 06, 2015
But 41mill for turan.... You go fear na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tola9ja: 11:23pm On Jul 06, 2015
Jose Mourinho, Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene WengerSir Alex Ferguson is the best manager in the Premier League era - and Arsene Wenger has beaten Jose Mourinho to second place, according to a new Sky Sports study.

Former Manchester United boss Ferguson – who won 13 Premier League titles – comfortably saw off his rivals to top our rankings table, while Wenger’s consistency at Arsenal edged him ahead of Chelsea’s Mourinho.

Further down the list, Manchester City title-winners Roberto Mancini and Manuel Pellegrini completed the top five, while Roy Evans is the top-ranked English boss in 10th.

To compile the table, we awarded managers points on the following criteria:

– Points-per-game

– Titles won

– Top-four finishes

– Longevity

The manager’s points-per-game record was multiplied by 10, while 50 points were awarded for each title win, 15 for a top-four finish and five for every 100 Premier League games managed.

For every relegation suffered, the manager lost 30 points – meaning Harry Redknapp, despite leading Tottenham to two top-four finishes, misses out.

The table only includes managers who have managed at least 50 Premier League games, too, so there is no place for Louis van Gaal or Guus Hiddink.

However, the rankings do not take into account a manager’s success in the transfer market, development of young players, or triumphs in cup competitions.

The top 10

With 13 Premier League titles to his name, Sir Alex Ferguson is a clear victor in the rankings table. Indeed, that tally of title wins is unmatched in the history of English football. Such was Manchester United’s excellence under the Scot in the Premier League, they only finished outside of the top two three times in 21 seasons.

The worst it got was third place in 2001/02, 2003/04 and 2004/05. Three titles in a row between 1998/99 and 2000/01 was another first for a manager in England’s top flight and Ferguson repeated the feat between 2006/07 and 2008/09.

Ferguson retired in 2013 – after steering United to the championship once more – with a 2.16 points-per-game record, an astounding achievement from 810 Premier League games.

Next up is Arsene Wenger, who has won three Premier League titles during his 19 seasons in north London. That’s the same number as third-placed Jose Mourinho, however it is the Gunners’ consistency under the Frenchman which helps him into second spot.

Arsenal have never finished outside of the top four under Wenger. While their much-publicised wait for a league title since their last triumph in 2003/04 has irritated fans and been used as ammunition by critics, Wenger has consistently kept Arsenal among the top places over 714 games.

In contrast, Mourinho, who is yet to hit the 200-game mark in the Premier League, has a phenomenal strike rate, with three title wins in five completed seasons at Chelsea. Mourinho – who won back-to-back Premier League trophies in his first two seasons at Stamford Bridge – boasts the best points-per-game score of any manager in the table and, like Wenger, has never finished outside of the top four.

After winning the 2014/15 crown, Mourinho could propel himself even further up these rankings in the coming years should he sustain Chelsea’s success.

Manchester City’s title-winning managers Roberto Mancini and Manuel Pellegrini take fourth and fifth place respectively. Mancini – who led the club to their first league triumph in 44 years in 2012 – leads his Chilean successor by a mere eight ranking points, with his three fourth-place finishes trumping Pellegrini’s superior 2.17 points-per-game tally. However, the 2013/14 Premier League-winning manager is plotting another title-chasing season with City in 2015/16...

Kenny Dalglish led Blackburn Rovers to the Premier League title in 1994/95, following two top-four finishes, and steered Newcastle to a runners-up spot in 1996/97 after taking over from Kevin Keegan in the January of that season. A second spell as Liverpool boss proved less fruitful in the league but, after taking charge of 238 Premier League matches, Dalglish’s record remains impressive.

Despite managing just 76 Premier League games, Carlo Ancelotti made his mark in the division, winning the 2009/10 title with Chelsea with a thumping 8-0 win over Wigan to finish one point clear of Ferguson’s United. A remarkable late-season rally in the following campaign almost propelled Chelsea to back-to-back titles, but instead they finished runners-up in Ancelotti’s second term, with the Italian sacked just hours after a final day defeat at Everton.

The first manager in the rankings not to have won a Premier League title is Rafael Benitez. The Spaniard managed Liverpool for six years from June 2004, with his best league campaign with the Reds coming in 2008/09, when Liverpool finished second, four points behind Manchester United. Benitez returned to England’s top flight with Chelsea in November 2012 and steered the club to a third-place finish – the fifth top-four placing of his Premier League career.

Gerard Houllier was Benitez’s predecessor at Anfield and follows the Spaniard in our rankings. While the Frenchman enjoyed plenty of cup success with Liverpool, Houllier also racked up four top-four finishes during his tenure, including a second place in 2001/02. Houllier also had a season with Aston Villa in 2010/11 and has managed 249 Premier League games.

Roy Evans, the first Englishman on the list, completes the top 10 – and a three-man succession of Liverpool managers in our rankings, having preceded and then worked jointly with Houllier at Anfield. After taking over from Graeme Souness midway through the 1993/94 season and finishing eighth, Evans led Liverpool to four straight top-four finishes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tval(m): 11:34pm On Jul 06, 2015
Chestar5:


But costa needed him for his kebabscheesy...lol
Kebabs grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 12:38pm On Jul 07, 2015
Finally. Pre-season to start "soon".



PS: na Moscow time be that o. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 2:05pm On Jul 07, 2015
Mourinho personally rejected a pay rise and signed a new contract to remain at the club!!!

Now that's a Fucking legend, Never thought I could love him more

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:29pm On Jul 07, 2015
Reports has it that we've made an offer of around £11m per season for three years to Wembley to become our temporary residence while Stamford Bridge is rebuilt.

Good call IMO, one that would unfortunately affect the Chelsea ticket holders based in North London.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:44pm On Jul 07, 2015
AirborneLacer:
Reports has it that we've made an offer of around £11m per season for three years to Wembley to become our temporary residence while Stamford Bridge is rebuilt.

Good call IMO, one that would unfortunately affect the Chelsea ticket holders based in North London.

Makes little sense considering West Ham are paying £2m a year for the Olympic stadium. If you sell 80000 tickets at £60 average for 30 home games, you'll gross £14.4m. . . . .Policing cost will swallow the difference between £11m and £14m.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jul 07, 2015
FBS:
Finally. Pre-season to start "soon".



PS: na Moscow time be that o. cheesy
Should be BST
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Spy360(m): 5:10pm On Jul 07, 2015
AirborneLacer:
Reports has it that we've made an offer of around £11m per season for three years to Wembley to become our temporary residence while Stamford Bridge is rebuilt.

Good call IMO, one that would unfortunately affect the Chelsea ticket holders based in North London.
You mean West London.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tola9ja: 12:23am On Jul 08, 2015

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Chelsea have offered about £11 million a year to use Wembley as a temporary home while Stamford Bridge is rebuilt.

The club have made a presentation to Wembley Stadium’s board and want to play at the national stadium for three seasons, probably from the start of the 2017-18 campaign. [/size]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:39am On Jul 08, 2015
Renties
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 12:44am On Jul 08, 2015
raumdeuter:
Renties

Lol.. Fcccccuuk Yo! undecided undecided cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:53am On Jul 08, 2015
Ibime:


Makes little sense considering West Ham are paying £2m a year for the Olympic stadium. If you sell 80000 tickets at £60 average for 30 home games, you'll gross £14.4m. . . . .Policing cost will swallow the difference between £11m and £14m.

Interesting.

I remember arguing with a pal a year ago on whether football clubs or police authorities are legally responsible for the cost of policing provided outside stadia.

Looking at it from a different angle, don't you think Wembley could have on ground enough CCTVs and stewards?

These would help reduce the number of police required to ensure public safety, thereby, reducing the cost of policing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 8:09am On Jul 08, 2015
From trusted sources, We had a €28mill bid for Isco rejected by Madrid....
Whoever submitted that bid need a slap
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 8:18am On Jul 08, 2015
It also looks like we are signing Charles Aranguiz,I didn't watch Chile at all during the tournament.....

Anyone gat anything on him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 8:53am On Jul 08, 2015
bigkesh:
It also looks like we are signing Charles Aranguiz,I didn't watch Chile at all during the tournament.....
Anyone gat anything on him?

An attacking midfield , if that's true seems Oscar is leaving soon..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 8:54am On Jul 08, 2015
Ibime:


Makes little sense considering West Ham are paying £2m a year for the Olympic stadium. If you sell 80000 tickets at £60 average for 30 home games, you'll gross £14.4m. . . . .Policing cost will swallow the difference between £11m and £14m.



I trust you , you sabi breakdown well.. grin Ibimeh padi mi toh sure.. e don tey !! grin cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:48am On Jul 08, 2015
Cabaye is going to Palace for only 12 mill.

I swear all of the top 4 have been sleeping on top bicycle
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 11:07am On Jul 08, 2015
Nihilist:
Cabaye is going to Palace for only 12 mill.

I swear all of the top 4 have been sleeping on top bicycle

A midfield of Fabregas and Cabaye will not do any good. 2 slow asz ninjas. I believe what Jose is on the look out for is an energetic box 2 box Midfielder
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:14am On Jul 08, 2015
lalaboi:


A midfield of Fabregas and Cabaye will not do any good. 2 slow asz ninjas. I believe what Jose is on the look out for is an energetic box 2 box Midfielder

I disagree.

Matic Cabaye is even better than Matic Fab in the pivot.

Cabaye is more defensive minded than Fab sef.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 11:28am On Jul 08, 2015
Nihilist:


I disagree.

Matic Cabaye is even better than Matic Fab in the pivot.

Cabaye is more defensive minded than Fab sef.


Fab n Cabaye are very similar. both slow, Can pick you out with a pass, short range and long range. it terms of defensive attributes, Cabaye is better.

I'ts true Matic Cabaye may be better but we've seen Mourinho play Willian/Oscar alot in the no10 position because of their directness and energy levels. So where would Fab play as he's too slow and cannot close down as quick as Willian or Oscar? Pivot.

That being said, 12Milla wont be bad for a squad rotation player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:42am On Jul 08, 2015
lalaboi:


Fab n Cabaye are very similar. both slow, Can pick you out with a pass, short range and long range. it terms of defensive attributes, Cabaye is better.

I'ts true Matic Cabaye may be better but we've seen Mourinho play Willian/Oscar alot in the no10 position because of their directness and energy levels. So where would Fab play as he's too slow and cannot close down as quick as Willian or Oscar? Pivot.

That being said, 12Milla wont be bad for a squad rotation player.
4-3-3 or maybe Fab in the hole.

Matic already plays b2b...and Cabaye can just sit.

Carrick no get any pace at all and he does the job well at Manyoo.

The only problem is that We for no see am for 12 mill sha. More like 25.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 11:46am On Jul 08, 2015
Nihilist:

4-3-3 or maybe Fab in the hole.

Matic already plays b2b...and Cabaye can just sit.

Carrick no get any pace at all and he does the job well at Manyoo.

The only problem is that We for no see am for 12 mill sha. More like 25.

don't compare carrick to the legion of plodders in your team. what carrick does better than anyone in the league is his anticipation thus interception. maldini faced ronaldo/rooney at age 37. none of them could speed past him cos of his positional intelligence. pace is nothing if you know which positions to occupy on the pitch!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 11:49am On Jul 08, 2015
Cabaye? I don't like signing rejects..... Its not like we are in for EPL alone,we should be thinking of UCL
There is a reason he didn't make it at PSG
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:49am On Jul 08, 2015
coogar:


don't compare carrick to the legion of plodders in your team. what carrick does better than anyone in the league is his anticipation thus interception. maldini faced ronaldo/rooney at age 37. none of them could speed past him cos of his positional intelligence. pace is nothing if you know which positions to occupy on the pitch!

Waiting for what your explanation has to do with anything... undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 11:52am On Jul 08, 2015
Nihilist:


Waiting for what your explanation has to do with anything... undecided

the explanation is simply tutoring you that carrick's lack of pace has nothing to do with his effectiveness. if you think another player with no pace can do a carrick then you need spiritual deliverance.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 11:52am On Jul 08, 2015
coogar:


don't compare carrick to the legion of plodders in your team. what carrick does better than anyone in the league is his anticipation thus interception. maldini faced ronaldo/rooney at age 37. none of them could speed past him cos of his positional intelligence. pace is nothing if you know which positions to occupy on the pitch!
Look at how a local Manchester champion is hyped.....
Anyway he was actually praising carrick and he was saying the same thing u just said
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 11:55am On Jul 08, 2015
bigkesh:

Look at how a local Manchester champion is hyped.....
Anyway he was actually praising carrick and he was saying the same thing u just said

he's not praising carrick....
he's comparing cesc or cabaye to carrick - an abomination. the only thing cesc can do is pass. anticipating which route an opponent would take is not cesc's strength & cabaye would get destroyed cos both of them lack positional intelligence!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 11:55am On Jul 08, 2015
coogar:


the explanation is simply tutoring you that carrick's lack of pace has nothing to do with his effectiveness. if you think another player with no pace can do a carrick then you need spiritual deliverance.
Busquet? Cambiasso?
Carrick is good,but don't tell me he is out of this world

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