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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Spy360(m): 4:56pm On Jul 26, 2015
#TrueConfessions

At least this puts to end all arguments...

'Since the coming of Abrahamovic to Chelsea, Chelsea has been buying the title'- Mourinho.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:01pm On Jul 26, 2015
Ibime:


Good, they should have him. . . we've got more important things to worry about

It just defies belief doesn't it? There's £25m to spend but we are using it on a defender we don't need.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:11pm On Jul 26, 2015

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:22pm On Jul 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK1z9x7WsAAZfJR.jpg:large[/img]

Queue more Opata yarns about how Jose can only spend Bla Bla
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 7:47pm On Jul 26, 2015
They are starting another argument......guys,ignore
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 8:03pm On Jul 26, 2015
Woah, this thread has really changed o, no more trolls even man u fans sayin good tinz about chelseacheesy.....lolzzz i hope it remains like this till season fully startswink....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 8:55pm On Jul 26, 2015
Sigh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by johnstar(m): 9:34pm On Jul 26, 2015
raumdeuter:
[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK1z9x7WsAAZfJR.jpg:large[/img]
guys , pls ignore dis . Dis dude wn cause wahala
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:42pm On Jul 26, 2015
Cuadrado played great, love his pace, I hope he stays and won't leave. Hazard had a poor game as many times but he is still Hazard. You could see that Falcao really wants to show everyone what he can do, loved his hunger. Oscar as a CM 100 times better than a CAM. Zouma much much better than Cahill. Ramires over Mikel anyday. Remy brilliant as always, would be a big mistake if we let him go. Surprised how good Moses is. And the last thing: Courtois penalty was brilliant and amazing! cry
source: Chelsea news
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
Nihilist:


Queue more Opata yarns about how Jose can only spend Bla Bla

Alaye why so salty nau. Numbers don't lie. At least everyone now knows what we all suspected, that Jose is the Ayatollah of spending moolah when it comes to the transfer market. So when he talks about teams trying to buy titles, all of Europe converge to deliver a colossal yinmu

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:47pm On Jul 26, 2015
What do you think if Oscar won't play as a 10 but as a Central midfielder? I personally think he plays much better as a Central midfielder. I would put Willian as a 10, Cuadrado or Moses on the right side and Hazard on the left. Matic as a CDM and Fabregas as a CM, and Oscar as a sub.
Courtois
Ivanovic - Terry - Zouma - Azpi
Matic- Fabregas/Oscar
Cuadrado/Moses - Willian/Fabregas - Hazard
Costa/Remy/Falcao

source: chelsea news

whart do you guys have to say
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:02pm On Jul 26, 2015
A40:


Alaye why so salty nau. Numbers don't lie. At least everyone now knows what we all suspected, that Jose is the Ayatollah of spending moolah when it comes to the transfer market. So when he talks about teams trying to buy titles, all of Europe converge to deliver a colossal yinmu

Salty?

At all o.

Nobody doubted that Jose has spent, but numbers without context are just numbers.

It's 2004, You arrived at a club who last won a league title in 1954. You want to compete for the title with a club that has been winning almost every year non-stop since 1992, under a manager that had broken the British transfer records at least thrice in under a decade.

What does A40 do?

It's 2010, You arrived at a club that last won a league title 4 years ago, in a league dominated by the best team and players in the world, managed by one of the best coaches in football at the time.

Your club had not even defeated your nearest rivals in a league game for over 4 years, and these same rivals have won the league 5 times in the last 7 years.

What does A40 do?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:04pm On Jul 26, 2015
lordfalcao:
What do you think if Oscar won't play as a 10 but as a Central midfielder? I personally think he plays much better as a Central midfielder. I would put Willian as a 10, Cuadrado or Moses on the right side and Hazard on the left. Matic as a CDM and Fabregas as a CM, and Oscar as a sub.
Courtois
Ivanovic - Terry - Zouma - Azpi
Matic- Fabregas/Oscar
Cuadrado/Moses - Willian/Fabregas - Hazard
Costa/Remy/Falcao

source: chelsea news

whart do you guys have to say
i have always told people that oscar is a beta player when he plays as a CMF than when he plays as an AMF. Some of the chelsea games i have watched hm play in that position, he was magnificient. You wl see him sharing the passes perfectly and making tackles. How i wish Mou will interchange his role with dat of fab.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:04pm On Jul 26, 2015
Nihilist:


Salty?

At all o.

Nobody doubted that Jose has spent, but numbers without context are just numbers.

It's 2004, You arrived at a club who last won a league title in 1954. You want to compete for the title with a club that has been winning almost every year non-stop since 1992, under a manager that had broken the British transfer records at least thrice in under a decade.

What does A40 do?

It's 2010, You arrived at a club that last won a league title 4 years ago, in a league dominated by the best team and players in the world, managed by one of the best coaches in football at the time.

Your club had not even defeated your nearest rivals in a league game for over 4 years, and these same rivals have won the league 5 times in the last 7 years.

What does A40 do?
More reason why he should be the last person whining about his rivals activities in the transfer market. What he did at the time is tantamount to buying titles and the numbers show he is the Master at it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:09pm On Jul 26, 2015
A40:

More reason why he should be the last person whining about his rivals activities in the transfer market. What he did at the time is tantamount to buying titles and the numbers show he is the Master at it

Jose has always been the underdog trying to break into a closed shop.

That's all his statement implies. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 11:15pm On Jul 26, 2015
A40:

More reason why he should be the last person whining about his rivals activities in the transfer market. What he did at the time is tantamount to buying titles and the numbers show he is the Master at it

No he is not whining. He is passing a message. A message to the media who do selective reporting. When we did it, we were buying the title. They are doing it now, "they are investing". Some even say "they are trying to close the gap to Chelsea" . .

WTF did they think we were doing in '04?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 12:14am On Jul 27, 2015
lordfalcao:
What do you think if Oscar won't play as a 10 but as a Central midfielder? I personally think he plays much better as a Central midfielder. I would put Willian as a 10, Cuadrado or Moses on the right side and Hazard on the left. Matic as a CDM and Fabregas as a CM, and Oscar as a sub.
Courtois
Ivanovic - Terry - Zouma - Azpi
Matic- Fabregas/Oscar
Cuadrado/Moses - Willian/Fabregas - Hazard
Costa/Remy/Falcao

source: chelsea news

whart do you guys have to say
I love the formation die, Oscar hustles for the ball, he marks, he's strong and can attack, I think Mou shud give this a try nd willian should stop playing from the wings, even at Donestk, he was playing as a CAM nd he did well.
We can try this out for the first few matches before Aug 31st.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 12:19am On Jul 27, 2015
Question



Which club had players with names same as real football clubs and one of their names is the same as the club he plays for
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:46am On Jul 27, 2015
lordfalcao:
What do you think if Oscar won't play as a 10 but as a Central midfielder? I personally think he plays much better as a Central midfielder. I would put Willian as a 10, Cuadrado or Moses on the right side and Hazard on the left. Matic as a CDM and Fabregas as a CM, and Oscar as a sub.
Courtois
Ivanovic - Terry - Zouma - Azpi
Matic- Fabregas/Oscar
Cuadrado/Moses - Willian/Fabregas - Hazard
Costa/Remy/Falcao

source: chelsea news

whart do you guys have to say

Do you know what it takes to play central midfield?

Let's start with a first touch that is always within your body space when the ball is passed to you. . . you cant afford the ball to bounce 5 yards from your body even once in a game. . . otherwise defence is under pressure. You cant overhit or underhit a pass to the full back or your central midfield colleagues. . . otherwise defence is under pressure.

Lets add a body frame that one knock from behind pushes him over (which happens often in midfield). Can he play on the half turn and receive the ball from the back four with someone on his back? Not really, he doesn't do the half-turn pirhouette lie a specialist midfielder can.

When i consider Oscars best three qualities:

1. Good shot
2. Great cross
3. Natural ability to drift away from players when cutting inside (he shares this with Wayne Rooney)

I would say his optimal position is left-wing, and he never fails to buy himself space to shoot or cross accurately when he is cutting in from the left. Even watch Chelsea games when he drifts to the left, you will see the outcome is often positive

80% of his assists are also from crosses or cutbacks, hardly ever from through balls which speaks of his failure as a central provider and his prowess from the wide area

I also happen to think Hazard is more productive on the right-wing. There is more urgency to his game there, he hits the line and crosses quickly, whereas many times on the left he slows the play and starts walking into the crowded centre.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 7:14am On Jul 27, 2015
Spy360:
#TrueConfessions

At least this puts to end all arguments...

'Since the coming of Abrahamovic to Chelsea, Chelsea has been buying the title'- Mourinho.

lolzz, this is truly what he said though:
JOSE Mourinho says Chelsea’s Premier
League rivals are attempting to buy the
title.
Buying success was a charge which used
to be levelled at Chelsea during
Mourinho’s first period in charge, which
began soon after wealthy Russian Roman
Abramovich purchased the club.
However, having claimed the title for the
first time since 2009/10 last season, the
Blues have not made any major purchases
in the wake of that success, whereas
Manchester City, Manchester United and
Liverpool have all spent significant money
on improving their squads.
And Mourinho said: “In the beginning of
Mr Abramovich coming to Chelsea, Chelsea
was buying the title.
“Now, they are buying the title. All of
them, they are buying the title.
“It is up to us to be strong and to fight
them and, obviously, to try and win it
again, even without the big investments.”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:44am On Jul 27, 2015
On Signing Cuadrado

Ask John Terry what makes Jose Mourinho so special and the word that usually comes up is 'detail'. So when the Chelsea boss explains what made him sign Radamel Falcao after an unimpressive season at Manchester United, it's natural to assume there has been an in-depth process behind the decision.

"I watched our game against Manchester United a few times," said Mourinho. "I spoke with John and (Gary) Cahill a lot about him and we think the bright movement is there, the movement to get freedom in the box to score goals is there. Our players had difficulty to control him and we feel the potential is there."

Mourinho was referring to the Premier League game between Chelsea and United in April. The only goal of the game was scored by Eden Hazard after Falcao was robbed of possession by Terry - "It all came from that," said Gary Neville on co-commentary for Sky Sports - but Cahill recalls a tough test. "I just remember he was non-stop," said the Chelsea defender.

"He was always pulling you left to right, coming short and running in behind. Even when he wasn't getting a lot of the ball, off the ball I was having to do a lot of running, chasing him and he was moving me around every two minutes. He made that game tough and there was a lot of movement people didn't see because the ball was elsewhere. I had to always be on my toes."

But was this performance that Mourinho studied so closely and quizzed his players about really indicative of Falcao's performances or was it an outlier? Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that he was "always wary of buying players on the back of good tournament performances" after getting caught out on several occasions, but this was just onegame.

The statistical evidence suggests that Falcao's efforts against Chelsea were atypical. The Colombian made 60 high-intensity sprints at Stamford Bridge - corroborating Cahill's assessment - which was more than any of his team-mates. But it was also more than in any of his other 25 Premier League appearances last season.

Would Mourinho have felt the same way had he watched the replays of Falcao's performance against Yeovil so intently? And even if the Chelsea game is accepted as the benchmark, how much might Cahill's view of Falcao's threat have been influenced by his previous difficulties against the striker?

After all, Chelsea were on the receiving end of one of Falcao's finest displays - his Super Cup hat-trick against the then Champions League holders, completed inside 45 minutes in Monaco in September 2012. It was a performance that Atletico Madrid coach Diego Simeone referred to as "indescribable" and Cahill certainly had no answer.

The so-called 'availability heuristic' holds that the more available a piece of information is to the memory, the more likely it is to influence your decision, even when the information is irrelevant. It's not a new phenomenon but it could have coloured Cahill's experience, just as it affected Neville when up against iconic Brazilian forward Romario.

Neville has described Romario as "the toughest striker I've ever played against" and his view of the player stemmed back to when United were "torn to shreds" by him in his Barcelona days. Neville also recalled being unnerved by the sight of Romario joking on the halfway line with Ronaldo during a 1997 international in which he scored the only goal of the game.

By the time of the World Club Cup in 2000, Romario was at Vasco da Gama, about to turn 34 and ostensibly past his best. It didn't stop him scoring twice against United and Neville - "both defensive horrors and both down to me" - in what Paul Scholes called 'Fiasco da Gama'. So was Cahill, like Neville, playing the memory of the man instead of the ball?

These memories are not always a bad thing, of course. Neville also recalls feverishly texting his brother after witnessing the vast potential of Sporting's Cristiano Ronaldo in a friendly in Lisbon. "United would never have signed a player because of 90 minutes in a pre-season friendly," said Neville. "But they would probably have concluded it a bit quickly after that."

History is littered with such examples and you don't have to look beyond the current crop of Premier League strikers to find them. Emmanuel Adebayor scored eight goals in nine north London derbies for Arsenal before joining Tottenham. And is it a coincidence that Christian Benteke has scored more goals against Liverpool than any other Premier League club?

If that feels like a reactive approach to recruitment, that doesn't mean it doesn't go on. One of the principles of the Moneyball approach to finding value is that "what he did last was not necessarily what he would do next" but anecdotal evidence continues to be a factor in which players clubs opt to sign.

The situation was flagged up by Rob Mackenzie, now head of player identification at Tottenham, on Twitter last season. 'Despite advances in technology, data management and enhanced availability of stats,' wrote Mackenzie, 'many signings seem to occur as a result of same key reasons.' He outlined them as follows:

* He used to be a good player and that is what I remember about him. 'If' we can get him to that level again, he will be really good for us.

* Somebody knows him personally and he is a good lad and he wants to join the club.

* He has played well for an acquaintance of the manager who has recommended him.

* He shares the same agent as the key decision maker at the club.

* He has played well previously against the team who he has just signed for.

Chelsea supporters might wonder just how many of those boxes the acquisition of Falcao could tick. It doesn't mean that he will not flourish in Chelsea blue. But it does call into question the rationale behind the signing. After all, aside from everything else, why buy a player who plays well against you when you are now the one team he cannot play against?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by purplekayc(m): 11:06am On Jul 27, 2015
Can chelsea retain the league title?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 11:25am On Jul 27, 2015
"I could handle being out of the team," he said. "Petr Cech was a model professional last year and that is why he got the move he wanted, because of how well he reacted around the place.

“I have seen other players go the other way. I certainly would go down the Petr route and continue giving everything to the squad.

"If I then felt Chelsea were going to release me or thought I had nothing else to give, but I thought I could, then of course I would still want to continue to play. But that would not be in the Premier League."

John Terry

True Legend

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:29pm On Jul 27, 2015
Ibime:


Do you know what it takes to play central midfield?

Let's start with a first touch that is always within your body space when the ball is passed to you. . . you cant afford the ball to bounce 5 yards from your body even once in a game. . . otherwise defence is under pressure. You cant overhit or underhit a pass to the full back or your central midfield colleagues. . . otherwise defence is under pressure.

Lets add a body frame that one knock from behind pushes him over (which happens often in midfield). Can he play on the half turn and receive the ball from the back four with someone on his back? Not really, he doesn't do the half-turn pirhouette lie a specialist midfielder can.

When i consider Oscars best three qualities:

1. Good shot
2. Great cross
3. Natural ability to drift away from players when cutting inside (he shares this with Wayne Rooney)

I would say his optimal position is left-wing, and he never fails to buy himself space to shoot or cross accurately when he is cutting in from the left. Even watch Chelsea games when he drifts to the left, you will see the outcome is often positive

80% of his assists are also from crosses or cutbacks, hardly ever from through balls which speaks of his failure as a central provider and his prowess from the wide area

I also happen to think Hazard is more productive on the right-wing. There is more urgency to his game there, he hits the line and crosses quickly, whereas many times on the left he slows the play and starts walking into the crowded centre.

nice analysis, i concur
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:31pm On Jul 27, 2015
Greatihex:
i have always told people that oscar is a beta player when he plays as a CMF than when he plays as an AMF. Some of the chelsea games i have watched hm play in that position, he was magnificient. You wl see him sharing the passes perfectly and making tackles. How i wish Mou will interchange his role with dat of fab.
Good opinion
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:33pm On Jul 27, 2015
Chelseafan1:

I love the formation die, Oscar hustles for the ball, he marks, he's strong and can attack, I think Mou shud give this a try nd willian should stop playing from the wings, even at Donestk, he was playing as a CAM nd he did well.
We can try this out for the first few matches before Aug 31st.
mou will still prefer lone striker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:33pm On Jul 27, 2015
Chelseafan1:

I love the formation die, Oscar hustles for the ball, he marks, he's strong and can attack, I think Mou shud give this a try nd willian should stop playing from the wings, even at Donestk, he was playing as a CAM nd he did well.
We can try this out for the first few matches before Aug 31st.
mou will still prefer loan striker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:07pm On Jul 27, 2015
Nihilist:
On Signing Cuadrado


Bayern bought Roy Makaay after scoring a hat trick on us in the CL game vs Deportivo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:49pm On Jul 27, 2015
Nihilist:
On Signing Cuadrado


You mean Falcao...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:50pm On Jul 27, 2015
raumdeuter:


Bayern bought Roy Makaay after scoring a hat trick on us in the CL game vs Deportivo

And he turned out to be a good signing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lordemperoris100(m): 4:06pm On Jul 27, 2015
DID YOU KNOW? Arsenal fans now be like.......If Arsenal beat Chelsea next week, they win treble b dat......Barclay Asia Trophy, Emirate Cup, Community Shield..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tng(f): 4:46pm On Jul 27, 2015
No he is not whining. He is passing a message. A message to the media who do selective reporting. When we did it, we were buying the title. They are doing it now, "they are investing". Some even say "they are trying to close the gap to Chelsea" . .

WTF did they think we were doing in '04?

Finally someone gets it.

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