Tval: Please is there anyone to analyse what happened in the video?

coogar:

1-your logic is lop-sided.
drogba was a proven forward - he's no longer what he used to be. even at drogba's mercurial best, he never achieved what nando did. nando was the 3rd best player in the world at a point in his career so who's drogba? the same drogba that got outscored by lampard for most of his time at chelsea?

you have a problem.....





2-what torres has always needed is a midfielder that can look up and isolate torres with the last defender with a good pass.....torres scored 80% of his goals at liverpool that way. he sat on the shoulder of the last man but he came to chelsea & he was converted to a midfielder.....getting involved in the build-up, supplying crosses & even creating chances.

what the fück was that about?

coogar:

let them be deceiving themselves....
di maria has won champions league & a league title. what has hazard won? hazard isn't even better than mata, let alone angel di maria. the conversation & the drunk that composed that nonsense should be sent to the nazi camp & gassed!

xp17: let me answer you number by number.
1-lampard outscored drogba in some season?
which lampard are you referring to? the same that more than 60% of his goals are from penalty kick, which my late grand pa could score from his grave?


or is it the same lampard that sees penalties as if his life depends on it? lampard believes he's infallible in penalties and his greed for it didn't allow Drogba to kick the penalty in our last premier league match 09/10 session against winger athethic, knowing well that 'fat Rooney' had the same 26 goals with Drogba and Rooney would be favored ahead of Drogba to get the golden boot because he got his before Drogba and the 'English player factor'. at the time Chelsea was already a goal up, by Nicolas anelka, he knew how that goal was important to Drogba, yet lampard still took it. meanwhile, some regular penalty takers would let their payers who already had a brace to kick a penalty in other to win a hatrick , Gerard did it for sturredge last season, although sturrdge missed. in the end Drogba poo'ed on his face by geting a hatrick in that match to outrun fat boy, Rooney in the goals race.



2- tores never had good midfielders behind him, yet there was no match he didn't missed at least 2 one on one , season in season out.

-even when tores was tores, he never out-scored Drogba. the highest he scored was 18goals in a season, still behind old Bent With 23 goals and Drogba with 29 goals that season. so, what is your point?


oga, please stop letting sentiment make you sound foolish.

Bimfo:

Just moves.. New skill moves on FIFA 15..

xp17: let me answer you number by number.
1-lampard outscored drogba in some season?
which lampard are you referring to? the same that more than 60% of his goals are from penalty kick, which my late grand pa could score from his grave?

or is it the same lampard that sees penalties as if his life depends on it? lampard believes he's infallible in penalties and his greed for it didn't allow Drogba to kick the penalty in our last premier league match 09/10 session against winger athethic, knowing well that 'fat Rooney' had the same 26 goals with Drogba and Rooney would be favored ahead of Drogba to get the golden boot because he got his before Drogba and the 'English player factor'. at the time Chelsea was already a goal up, by Nicolas anelka, he knew how that goal was important to Drogba, yet lampard still took it. meanwhile, some regular penalty takers would let their payers who already had a brace to kick a penalty in other to win a hatrick , Gerard did it for sturredge last season, although sturrdge missed. in the end Drogba poo'ed on his face by geting a hatrick in that match to outrun fat boy, Rooney in the goals race.

2- tores never had good midfielders behind him, yet there was no match he didn't missed at least 2 one on one , season in season out.

-even when tores was tores, he never out-scored Drogba. the highest he scored was 18goals in a season, still behind old Bent With 23 goals and Drogba with 29 goals that season. so, what is your point?

oga, please stop letting sentiment make you sound foolish.

coogar:

the sarcasm implied my great great great grandmother is better than the current drogba.



torres needs 2 clear-cut chances to score a goal. he's very clinical, super clinical. he's as good with 1 v 1 as chicharito.




discuss costa's first goal against everton.



torres does the same - i gave up on chelsea midfielders last season when watching your season review in my cousin's house. i couldn't count the number of times torres made direct runs only for hazard or oscar to slow down the build up cos they are too mediocre to find a final pass.




loic remy isn't better than demba ba.



cesc's passes are the massive upgrade - not costa. costa's runs are well seen by cesc & he has that ability to locate his striker with the pass. once you have that behind you, the rest is easy. costa has started well & the confidence is there for him.

torres didn't have that in jan 2011.



nando is a beast!
his accolades shame any player you have had at chelsea in the last 100 years. torres has won everything for club & country. he was once voted the 3rd best player in the world - how many chelsea players have reached that pinnacle?

coogar:

torres has won the world cup, euros, champs league, fa cup, europa league, etc. he's the daddy of titles.

hensben: so you want to compare real madrid squad to chelsea's? bro if you want to compare players use their stats and individual awards not team award/trophies cos that will not hold..ok with your logic can you now say pedro is better than cr7 since the formal has more trophies than the later?....i always think people that compare two players with trophies are argument loosers.

hensben: @bolded, lampard...you are not answering his question rather framing up words to look football 'analytically' genius...

coogar:

what's the difference?
what's hazard's market value? what's di maria's? when di maria was copping MOTM performance in a champions league final against the same team that dumped chelsea out of europe, hazard was at home picking his nose & wondering whether he can be as good as angel di maria.

khaki no be leather - di maria is a better player today than hazard. what hazard has is potential & he will be 24 in january, time is running out on him. at his age, messi & ronaldo have won ballon d'or awards & won the champions league while collecting the golden boots awards.

i don't see hazard reaching that level in another 4 years.

hensben: i thought you were talking about hazard di maria now is hazard messi, cr7..ok at 19 were was di maria when he was named french league player of the year twice, was di maria known as best player in portuguese league. At 20 messi already world best player, were was cr7 to win at same age since you want hazard to win at same age cr7 first won it, what i am trying to say is that you shouldnt tell if hazard will not win it in next 4 years cos you are not God who sees what will happen next 4 years...its football so, anything can happen...market value is rubbish..di maria best season at real madrid was last season since he signed there and he was even forced out to a desperate man utd.

At 20 messi already world best player, were was cr7 to win at same age since you want hazard to win at same age cr7 first won it,

coogar:

what's the difference?
what's hazard's market value? what's di maria's? when di maria was copping MOTM performance in a champions league final(the biggest game in europe) against the same team that dumped chelsea out of europe, hazard was at home picking his nose & wondering whether he can ever be as good as angel di maria.

khaki no be leather - di maria is a better player today than hazard. what hazard has is potential & he will be 24 in january, time is running out on him. at his age, messi & ronaldo had already won ballon d'or awards & won the champions league title while also collecting enough golden boots awards.

i don't see hazard reaching that level in another 4 years.



that's the same lampard your friend branded a penalty specialist. it took him how many years in the premier league to get that award? torres in his debut season in england became the 3rd best player in the world - he didn't have to win the league like lampard or win the champions league to be recognised.

his class simply spoke for him.

hensben: xavi and iniesta won every trophies available at senior level yet no balon de or, stop bring up trophies, thats a team achievement, we are talking of individual awards and stats... @bolded, so you mean lampard won ucl before he was recognized or what? chelsea won ucl 2012, lampard was balon de or runner up to ronaldinho 2006 so what are you saying mr.

coogar:

see village anälysis....

when did di maria come to europe? that's how you judge it, not just claw out a theory that has no spine. hazard grew up in europe with the best state of the art facility to develop him into a player that he is today.

di maria was from the ghetto of south america probably without boots or a good pitch to develop. he came to europe at 19, having to adapt to the style here, the environment & the culture. why should he be compared to mummy's pets like hazard who's never travelled to play in another continent?



the above tells me arguing with you is a sheer waste of time. shey you were the one that awarded messi ballon d'or at 20 or was it roman abramovic?

you chelsea fans here are spiritually daft! messi didn't win ballon d'or until 2009. he was about 22 by the time he won it, not 20. ronaldo won it at 23. hazard will be 24 in january & as long as ronaldo & messi are in the game, hazard has no chance.

coogar:

lampard had won his league twice before he was recognised. what has hazard won? even a kid of 5 can understand my statement. i said torres didn't have to win the league to be recognised like lampard did. only the first part of the statement concerned lampard, not the second part.


xavi & iniesta were constantly in the top 5, they won player of the tournaments here & there and they mostly played as central midfielders.

hazard is a forward. he hasn't even won a league, let alone win ballon d'or. i can name 5 players better than hazard in man city alone, never mind the entire premier league or europe at large. hazard is a poor man's mata.

hensben: see whack defending o , south america are the best when it comes to football talents, many players have establish from south america that europian clubs elite are fighting for their signature, if di maria was that good as you claim why were he not known that way world wide until he moved to real madrid were he only had one good season(last season) until he was rejected and sold to desperate man utd.

hensben: hazard won french league and its a team effort and not like lawn tennis, lets use individual stats..hazard vs di maria(individual stats)..a bench warmer like di maria, only last season he had a little chance to played for madrid, is it because h now plays for man utd.. LOL...the problem with man utd fan is ego cos u support man utd you think you know it all..mk dons have fans too, can you claim you know football more than them cos you support man utd? what i am telling you is supporting man utd doesnt make you a football genius...thats ur reason of arguing if not your point are not right...did iniesta and xavi won it? not constantly on top 5.

coogar:

if hazard was born in south america, he wouldn't have a football contract. eden hazard? chelsea fans can praise-sing nonsense. what's hazard's biggest achievement since he got to england?



you want to compare the yeye french league to la liga? this is why people laugh at una here. french league?? it's not better than the nigerian league.

supporting man utd isn't the ingenuity here, it's the fact that i have destroyed every point you have put out here brick by brick. lying to us messi won ballon d'or at 20 just to sway an argument is beneath you.

iniesta & xavi don't have to win it. they made the top 5, hazard has never made the top 10 & he's a forward. we all know how difficult it is for central midfielders to get recognition so that's excusable for xavi & iniesta.

what has hazard achieved? no league title in a top league, no champions league, no golden boot, no man of the match performance in a big game. when di maria was painting the world cup red, hazard was getting outplayed by marouane fellaini in the belgium team.

abeg, drop that thought of yours - hazard is a poor man's mata.

hensben: if hazard can be top star in europe then what will now stop him from shinning as a south american were football is in their blood not england were they teach a kid like beckam football.di maria paint world cup red for were hahahahaha

....fyi, iniesta and xavi have been in the game before hazard so you cant compare them,they are almost done now so, compare hazard with di maria though the later is older but hazard>>di maria individual stats dont lie..

the both of them flopped during world cup including cr7 and la liga is sh.it as well, a 2 or maybe 3 horse race since last season.

coogar:

di maria painted the world cup red. hazard was a passenger in the belgium team. he did nothing of note. he just ran around like a lunatic. the guy is not ready - he will never win a ballon d'or....there are too many good players around.



if it's individual stats, di maria is better. if it's football skills, di maria is better. hazard is all hype no substance. di maria performed better for club(last season) & country(world cup) - no comparison!!

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hazard is a baby compared to di maria.



la liga is shyte?
if la liga is shyte then french league is the sewer.

Bimfo: I will just keep sipping my Tea till October 25..

Dhellake: Some logic ehn, Hazard never went to go play football in another continent, is he supposed to go play football in South America or Africa? Azzin Ehn!!! Matic is poor man Blind? Hazard is all hype and no substance, 16 successful dribbles in a game a game which neither Ronaldo nor Giggs nor Nani could manage 14 dribbles in a game, Costa is only getting goals because of Fabregas? The same Costa that was banging in goals at Athletico where he was playing with thugs as mid fielders
This European Football Section Halleluyah boy won't stop showing his idiocy at every giving chance

Bimfo: I will just keep sipping my Tea till October 25..

hensben: hazard>>di maria, he is real madrid reject who plays for man united now whereas, hazard is one of the potential replacement for cr7 at real madrid...i am talking of individual stats of both since their emergence as a football players cos the both flop during world cup same as cr7,...messi was carrying argentina on his shoulder during WC...fyi, cr7 has played 3 WC now and he has been flop does that make him not to be a better footballer...you are just trolling to feel good

diggz: Coogar your skillset for calling black;white, is not a surprise to me for the records. How did Ruudie describe dis ur attitude again ? YES...! He described it as,shifting from one post to another post. As a matter of fact you will say anyfin and do anyfin just to win an arguement. Abi,,no be the same Angel Di Maria u spent pages telling elampawa on ur shitty thread,how useless Di Maria was and how the hunch back,over hyped English Ashley Young was better dan he was? You even claimed you guys had Ashley and Valencia so,Maria was not needed. Fast forward to yesterday,same Maria u claimed could not shine the boots of young and Val is better than hazard
Lemme ask you dis for the record again,IS YOUNG AND VALENCIA BETTER DAN HAZARD TOO?
Mehn na God go punish you with dis ur Stewpid gist wey u carry come dis thread Coogar

hensben: hazard>>di maria, he is real madrid reject who plays for man united now whereas, hazard is one of the potential replacement for cr7 at real madrid

...i am talking of individual stats of both since their emergence as a football players cos the both flop during world cup same as cr7,

...messi was carrying argentina on his shoulder during WC...fyi, cr7 has played 3 WC now and he has been flop does that make him not to be a better footballer...you are just trolling to feel good