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|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by amosy007: 1:42am On May 09, 2012|
Igbo people really want south south badly bloody parasites
...cant u people just demand biafra without bringing south south into d context...
For u peoples info... South south doesnt belong to igbo neither does it belong to yorubas... If u want biafra agitate for it with ur 5 state and stop hoping that south south will join u... Bloody greedy parasites.....
Am out all other quote can kiss my Bottom
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 1:47am On May 09, 2012|
when you mistake the basics, it eludes any ratiocination to engage you in a meaningful discussion in that subject matter, nevertheless, if i were in your shoes, i will be studying not flying your ignorant flag.
when you wish to learn, start with questions.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by mimifonwon(f): 1:48am On May 09, 2012|
jp philips:incase you didnt know Alaigbo stretches from Igwe Ocha( rivers-ph) to Agbo in present Delta State. All Igbo speaking people, no matter how different their dialects are, is part of Alaigbo state. This is a settled matter and it is silly always revisiting it as if it is up to us to change it.Biafra is the name of a village in Portugal; I am not a Portuguese and, therefore, cannot be named by a Portuguese word.
Original (correct) names/spellings for Igbo City's/Towns/Villages
Abakaliki is Abakaleke; Afikpo is Ehugbo; Asaba is Ahaba; Awgu is Ogu; Awka is Oka; Bonny is Ubani; Enugu is Enugwu; Ibusa is Igbuzor; Igrita is Igwuruta; Oguta is Ugwuta; Onitsha is Onicha; Owerri is Owerre; Oyigbo is Obigbo; Port Harcourt is Diobu; Ogwashi-Uku is Ogwa Nshi Ukwu.
P.s. another history lesson by my grandpa-
According to my paternal grandpa who is of yoruba, who is in his late 80s, the word oyigbo is what they called white settlers because they were fair like the igbos, because igbos had a lot of albinos in their tribe, so oyirigbo become oyinbo.
By the way, EKO (Lagos) is an Edo Word, Lagos itself is a Portuguese Word, America is Spanish, Yoruba is an hausa word, etc etc...Does the appellation change who the people and their circumstances are? no so sharap.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:00am On May 09, 2012|
look at an unrepentant ignorant bingo that doesn't know the capital of biafra is giving his father lectures on igbo history,because i came to your rescue, u have the sagacity to give me igbo lectures abi?
before you deceive your children again, biafra was coined from the "bight of biafra" an arm of the Atlantic ocean close to our present day Gulf of guinea.
didn't i ask you to go read your book?
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by Dede1(m): 2:02am On May 09, 2012|
I should tell you to go back to school, olodo. There was no supreme military council when Gowon usurped the position of commander in chief. When Ironsi assumed power, he created military executive council made-up of the military governors and certain military officers. As the military governor of eastern region and sole military authority in the east after partial success of July 29, 1966 coup, Ojukwu remained the only bona fide member of the military executive council to tell Gowon that Ogundipe was 2ic to Ironsi.
It was unfortunate that officers such as Adebayo, Wey, Ejoor, Katsina and Johnson had to succumb to fear and urged Gowon to continue to thrash the rigged principle of Esprit de Corp.
If I call you and your father fools, it should be a compliment because pogrom started in northern region when Ironsi was the commander in chief. Again, if you have any brain at all, you should have known that the July 29, 1966 coup only succeeded in western and northern regions. Eastern region was absolutely out of bound to coup plotters. In fact, Gowon could not even attempt to visit Benin City, the capital of Mid-western region, during the era in discuss. The coup that brought Gowon to power was an illegal act and Ojukwu as military governor of eastern region opposed it.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by mimifonwon(f): 2:09am On May 09, 2012|
You are very silly, i gave a definition and you are here trying to tell me what i know.people assumed it coined out of bight of africa, . Second Little is known about the literal meaning of the word Biafra. It is not part of the Igbo language. It is unclear whether the origin of the word Biafra has any relationship to "Bia", the Igbo word for "Come". The word Biafra most likely derives from the subgroup Biafar or Biafada of the Tenda ethnic group who reside primarily in Guinea-Bissau. Manuel Álvares (1526–1583), a Portuguese Jesuit educator, in his work "Ethiopia Minor and a geographical account of the Province of Sierra Leone", writes about the "Biafar heathen" in chapter 13 of the same book. The word Biafar thus appears to have been a common word in the Portuguese language back in the 16th century.
The exact original region of Biafra is not restricted to Eastern Nigeria alone. According to the maps, the European travellers used the word Biafara to describe the entire region east of River Niger going down to the Mount Cameroon region, thus including Cameroon and a large area around Gabon. The word Biafara also appears on maps from the 18th century in the area around Gambia. In most igbo speaking places including southern cameroon are referred as Biafara in early 18th century british documents. So JP wetin you want talk again?
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:10am On May 09, 2012|
now remove the bre.ast from your mouth and read that post again before you attempt the following questions;
was ojukwu the sole "dECIDING" member of the then military council whether old or newly formed to decide for them who the next head of state would be?
when the votes were cast, was the majority for or against ojukwu?
whether you think Adebayor and co's decision was unfortunate or not is your opinion only relevant when you are ontop your woman.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by CyberG: 2:17am On May 09, 2012|
@jr philips: It's interesting you've been on this NL for a long time and I find your tactful answers interesting. Well, be ready to do a whole lot of writing on these kind of topics and you will need not only a LOT of patience but relentless tact in slamming the "TRUE" accounts of the events of those days into some people here.
@Mimi...I suggest you heed an earlier advice to read some history of discussions on this board. You see, MANY PEOPLE like you have tried to educate and persuade people to tone down the tribal rhetoric without success because the ferocity increases the harder you try. In the end, you may win some, lose some but the most important thing I realize on this NL is to state your own account perhaps with some references. You may succeed in not letting the future NLander buy the absolute crap that some people pass for knowledge on this parts. Finally, please educate yourself some more with sources, cross-referenced, to reach an unbiased position of knowledge.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:18am On May 09, 2012|
olodo rapata that think the capital of biafra is ph is telling the world that he knows something,human nuisance will talk, gun powder head will also talk, chei!!! jp philips don suffer for children hand. the beauty of stup!d!ty is that it beclouds the victim to think they are normal when in real sense they are not, sorry!!
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by naijaking1: 2:22am On May 09, 2012|
Pardon me if I missed it, but I didn't see anything Gowon said about the many Igbos killed up north: a situation used by Ojukwu to convince ordinary easterners that they needed protection or seperation from Nigeria.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by Dede1(m): 2:23am On May 09, 2012|
You are a bloody fool and I have no time to lecture a moronic troll such as you. You have shifted from supreme military council to mere military council. You should disabuse your silly mind before engage a person like me in your idiotic drivels.
There was veto power enjoyed by the members of military executive council. The opposition staged by Fajuyi over the faith of January 15, 1966 coup plotters prompted many northern officers to concluded that Fajuyi was part and parcel of the January coup.
There was no constituted meeting of military executive council after Ironsi disappeared. During the phone discussions among the members, Ojukwu insisted that in the absence of Commander in Chief, the chief of staff Supreme Military Headquarters should assume the position of commander in chief until the faith of commander in chief is known. I do not blame a moronic fool such as you to assume there was supreme military council because there was position of chief of staff supreme HQ.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by shymmex(m): 2:30am On May 09, 2012|
When are you going to give your life to
You're getting old, grandpa - and the kingdom of
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by mimifonwon(f): 2:33am On May 09, 2012|
umm sir i believe that if people face facts, that then they would let their tribalism simmer down. As for my accounts, they are well researched, but i understand where you are coming from. And @jp before you reply me, you need to do some reading, and ill suggest you start with this The 'Igbo Scare' in the British Cameroons, c. 1945-61
Victor Bong Amaazee
The Journal of African History
Vol. 31, No. 2 (1990), pp. 281-293
Published by: Cambridge University Press, good luck am going to sleep, dont die with ignorance.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:37am On May 09, 2012|
It was unfortunate that officers such as Adebayo, Wey, Ejoor, Katsina and Johnson had to succumb to fear and urged Gowon to continue to thrash the rigged principle of Esprit de Corp.
please brief Nairalanders the context for which the above quote was made by you?
he created military executive council made-up of the military governors and certain military officers.and elaborate further how Gowon emerged as the head of state (you can leave out ojukwu's fantasies from your answer), tell us in loud and clear terms the people that summoned that meeting and their individual positions?
explain further the bold part of your quote?
if there were members that you have already mentioned that took a unanimous decision as majority, explain how ojukwu's opinion should be relevant?
about the supreme military council, unfortunately for you that is what they call it in our time i may not be abreast with what you call it in your "ancient of days era"
i reserve no apologies for living in the modern times .
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:40am On May 09, 2012|
the kinda books that told you the capital of biafra was PH? happy reading!!
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by Dede1(m): 2:48am On May 09, 2012|
I am not interested in educating a jackass such as you on the issue of 1966 Nigeria. It is either you can not read or you have abject deficiency in comprehension. I wrote there was no formal meeting of constituted military executive because the Head of State and Commander in Chief Gen Ironsi along with another member of military executive council in Col Fajuyi were missing.
Even though some top military officers such as Gowon, Ojukwu, Ejoor, Ogundipe, Katsina, Johnson, Wey, Njoku and Acting IGP Kame Salam have know the faith of these men, general public was still loaded with rumors.
It is foolhardy on your silly part to navigate to a public place such as Internet and make fool of yourself by stating false statement as an object of factual fact. Supreme military council was a coinage of later day.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 2:55am On May 09, 2012|
now that you are stammering, lemme ask further, you have alluded that there were "Members" that decided Gowon will be head of state, and you think that the opinion of one rogue member will thwart the decision of the majority?
please explain that to us,
the way i see you, if they had managed to bury ojukwu without his pen!s, you would have been sucking it by now, or better still hang it in your living room as your new found oracle.
how can one person say no to the decision made by majority of men of equal status? please answer us in clear terms
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by dayokanu(m): 3:04am On May 09, 2012|
Someone is already taking Dendemoron to school again
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by Dede1(m): 3:07am On May 09, 2012|
Gowon was made by rogue group which precipitated an illegal act that was unacceptable in eastern region. Even Gowon or Adebayo or Ejoor or Katsina never doubted the fact that July 29, 1966 coup was a flop as far as eastern region was concerned. Ejoor has no troop and Adebayo has no command of soldiers in western region therefore have no intestinal fortitude to tell the Gowon and soldiers of northern region correct manner of conduct.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by jp philips(m): 3:10am On May 09, 2012|
dayokanu: Someone is already taking Dendemoron to school again
i think i love that name, Dandemoron aka real bingo,
because he wants the majority to dance to his tune 2million ibo lives should be wasted, because he was the son of a rich man in a rag tag army.
who the hell is he not to accept gowon? even if there was wuruwuru, he could have gone to a credible tribunal to present his case. not suprised a Dandemoron thinks its cool.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by bashr8: 3:24am On May 09, 2012|
kasiem: igbo adage,"nwoke lucha ogu, nwanyi enwere akuko" translated to " if a man finishes fighting, a woman will narrate the story" do u know what this insinuates? we've finished fighting with our fellow men(world powers) and now yorubas via adekunu are telling the story. have u for once used ur logical sense(make i elevate u) to ask urself why nigeria went to the level of begging world to come and help them fight small igbos? maybe, awOLEwo free education was busy teaching u guys rat poisoning without touching logic, but u still have a chance of learning logic in one of this almajiri school given to u by gejlol yorubas are naturally dumbdont blame them abeg.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by bashr8: 3:26am On May 09, 2012|
kasiem: thankgod that we are now seeing the statistic of number of people who die most in hands of the hausas, 70 percent of corper that died in post election disaster were yorobo, their profs, nko?so what , you think yorubas care. even when hausa fulanis are killing them all over yoruba land from osun to ekitit to oyo and even ibadan they dont give a damm, disgusting people.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by bashr8: 3:28am On May 09, 2012|
mailgiddy: All these shallow nepotistic comments here is the sole reason nigeria's finding it difficult to record any progress,[b]Gowon had the job of keeping Nigeria united, and that he did,too bad some people had to pay for it with their own lifes. [/b]And for your information plateau state is still very much on point against all odds..I'm jostified.this is why nigerians have average IQ of 67(mentally r .etard...ed), white man came and told you rahter than seperate kill your fellow africans and you stupidily accepted, dumb mudafuckers ,no wonder boko harem is killing more people daily and nobody cares.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by bashr8: 3:32am On May 09, 2012|
amosy007: Igbo people really want south south badly bloody parasitesanother silly half baked awolowo free eucation yoruba slowpoke, who are the people that make up the south south , go back to school mumu
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by CyberG: 3:34am On May 09, 2012|
^ Well, NO NEED to fight in the gutter with tribalism if you can acquit yourself intellectually. Well, IT IS RECORDED HISTORY that even the biafran head of state, Philip Effiong, after Ojukwu ran away to Abidjan, surrendered to the SAME PEOPLE you are slandering right there. Go figure!
@Topic: It's so FUNNY watching this new show as the usual loser get's handed his Bottom on a hot stake! Hahaha! Well, this is without even some of the historians who can tell the story of Nigeria long before the biafran war came along! Well, jr., carry go...teach'em some history abeg!
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by ak47mann(m): 3:47am On May 09, 2012|
Gowon, whose first statement on usurping power, was that there was no basis for Nigeria unity, changed his mind and wanted to centralize the government of Nigeria—going against exactly the primary excuse he had rationalized for his coup and the killing of Ironsi. He was now going to force the Igbos to remain in Nigeria, never mind that he and his coupists, in their retaliatory coup, had murdered all Igbo military officers they could lay their hands on, and had encouraged the ethnic cleansing exercise of the Igbo from Northern Nigeria. Gowon, whose Nigerian military government had failed to protect the Igbo (actually, made no effort to protect the Igbo, but in fact played an enabling role in the July 1966 genocide against the Igbo by the Hausa-Fulani), was now going to force the Igbo to remain in one Nigeria. Imagine that!
you will read of Aburi. Ojukwu worked hard to keep the Eastern region in Nigeria. The only way to keep Eastern Nigeria safe in Nigeria was through regional autonomy. In fact, the Military junta had by now accepted the fact that regionalization was the best way to keep the country as one. But Gowon refused. A summit was finally hosted by the Ghanaian President in Aburi, Ghana, in 1967 during which the Nigerian parties agreed on decentralization and regional autonomy. Gowon was there, and was party to the agreement. However, once back to Nigeria, within a few days, he did an about-face and reneged on the agreement they all reached in Aburi.What an Unreliable wimp
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by ak47mann(m): 3:53am On May 09, 2012|
till today at his old age his still evil and a pathetic lair,his lies has cause so many lost of lifes in his region,and he still delusion the man is a Joystick head
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by Katsumoto: 3:54am On May 09, 2012|
You getting schooled again
So many ignorant comments on this thread especially from mimifonwon.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by igbo boy(m): 3:55am On May 09, 2012|
eediot my maternal lineage is ikwerre so go and teach person wey no sabi your teachings ...onye ara
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by igbo boy(m): 3:57am On May 09, 2012|
LOL...see me see wahala, nwa Yoruba biko i flow freely in igbo...is my name johnson williams? basically i could careless for english...ne onu gi di ka onu kube hahaha
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by igbo boy(m): 4:00am On May 09, 2012|
eediot is boro or wiwa from upper ph? asking daft questions...Half baked Yoruba education...
Is PH a tribe? Igbos are indigenous to Upper PH and lower/riverine ph are others...daftness.
|Re: Ojukwu Would Have Ruled Nigeria —Gowon by igbo boy(m): 4:08am On May 09, 2012|
chagga: Yt did Gowon creat Nigeria? He was only trying to keep a country he was the president of together. Go n read your history books . The 1st coup led by Igbo Officer prepared the road 4 the war. Northerner and westerner( Nationalist) were killed and that was the Genesis. U people should pointing fingers @ the wrong direction
president? who vote for am? my friend shattap there..
Gowon was/is a pawan for the hausas, I hope dem make UN categorize una as extinct by 2015 when BH don finish una for plateau...Daft boy
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