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|Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by jerrymania(m): 8:27pm On Nov 13, 2007|
We Christians believe that our well said prayers to God in the name of Jesus will be surely answered. Now does God answer a Muslims prayer though he doesnt pray in Jesus Name?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 10:47pm On Nov 13, 2007|
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Judge for thyself.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mukina2: 12:04am On Nov 14, 2007|
Allah answers our prayers
" There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (SAW) is his messenger.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 12:19am On Nov 14, 2007|
Is this all you could find to show that Allah indeed promised to answer your prayers? Or you are just as other muslims, decieving themselves by attributing to themselves what Allah never promised?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by pilgrim.1(f): 2:45am On Nov 14, 2007|
It is true that Muslims believe that 'Allah' answers their prayers.
However, if you were asking about whether God answers a Muslim's prayers in contradistinction to Christian prayers, I have only one question to propose for the moment:
Please ask any sane Muslim where he has seen 'Allah' perform miracles. QED.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by Akolawole(m): 3:28am On Nov 14, 2007|
Using Genesis 2:7 as a guide. God breathed life into Man.
We became a living soul and co-sharer of his abundant goodies irrespective of our religious affiliations.
But there is always a difference between 100% access and partial access.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by justcool(m): 3:34am On Nov 14, 2007|
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
The fact that we know of Jesus, call ourselves Christians, and pray in Jesus’ name does not guaranty anything. Any prayer from the heart and in accord with the laws of God shall be heard, irrespective of religious orientation of person praying.
You can pray a million times in Jesus’ name but as long as your prayers are not in accord with God's will, they will not be allowed to enter His Kingdom -- God will not hear them.
On the other hand, a person can pray in whatever name he calls God-- Allah, Chukwu, Chineke,-- but as long as his prayers are genuinely felt from the heart and in accord with the will of Jesus’ Father, the prayer shall be heard and answered. Such a person in his heart knows Jesus more than the Christian who only knows the name by mouth.
It doesn’t really matter in what language you call God or His Holy son, what matters most is living according to the will of God.
To know Jesus is live a life that is in accordance to the will of God, which to love God with all your heart and to love your neigbour as yourself.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by jerrymania(m): 9:15am On Nov 14, 2007|
Guy u r contradicting yourself.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by justcool(m): 9:23am On Nov 14, 2007|
Please show me where and how I contradicted myself.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by jerrymania(m): 9:39am On Nov 14, 2007|
the bold sentences, thats my emphasis
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by justcool(m): 10:04am On Nov 14, 2007|
I don't see contradiction in the bold sentences. It simply states that not all that call Him Lord does His will; those that call Him lord but do not do the will of His father are workers of iniquity. So the important thing is not just calling him lord, Christ, savior or weather you pray through him, the most important thing is to do the will of His father or the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus taught us how to pray in order to be heard.
Think about the prayer that Jesus taught mankind -- The Lord's prayer. Whoever prays the Lord's prayer exactly as Jesus taught it shall be heard even if he is a Muslim. Lord's prayer does not contain Jesus' name, it's simply addressed the Almighty(Our Father Who art in heaven)
Whoever genuinely pray likewise shall be heard irrespective of his religion.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by lammie01: 5:56pm On Nov 14, 2007|
In answering the question does God answer the prayers of muslim. God says in the Quran " Call unto me and I would hearken to your call" He also says in chapter 2 " I answer the the call of every suplicant when he calls on me" .
It is myopic and the peak of parochiality in thinking that it is only christians prayers that are answered. We muslims believe that God answers the prayer of any creature that calls on him but the answering of prayers is different to salvation.
Talking about miracles PRIGLIMS
pilgrim.1:How can you bring your self so low and it shows how parochial human beings can be. For you to think miracles is the epitome of answering of prayers. When Jesus himslef said " they would cast out demons in my name , Greater works shall they do" Mathew 7
He was reffering to false prophets. Even babalawos perform majic which to some people it is a miracle. Even the chiefs of pharaoh perfored miracles when moses was sent to him. why were the so called miracles banned on nigerian tv? why did the anglican and catholic church oppose the miracles been aired on nigerian tv? If not that most of them were outright fakes or mere majic
"There is no deity except Allah and Mohammed is his messenger" Belief in this phrase is what makes us muslims . You should be matured in handling issues u dont have to be combative. How do you know Allah never promised in the Quran ? what is your reference before you make ignorant and shallow comments.
On a final note The prayers of all creatures are answered by god but the anwering of the prayers is not a visa for salvation otherwise God would not give water to every disbiever in him. This world is worth no more than a wing of a mosquito to God
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by Backslider(m): 6:32pm On Nov 14, 2007|
Well he does answer when the Muslim is Praying to the Christian Triune God for repentance. With Jesus as the God Saviour and mediator, The Holy Ghost convicting the Sinner that He has lost his way with the Father.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by pilgrim.1(f): 6:37pm On Nov 14, 2007|
I love your name - used to have a friend by that name in real life, apart from the '01'.
Well, I really don't mind you supposition that I might've brought myself so low. . not until you consider the facts. First, I did not suggest that miracles are the epitome of answering prayers - so that was merely a mechanical device on your part. Indeed, I earlier stated that:
. . I hope you did not deliberately miss that in your assumptions to read your parochial inuendoes into my poposition?
Secondly, nowhere is 'Allah' in the Qur'an said to have ascertained Muhammad's career with any miracle. NONE whatsoever. Muslims like to believe in the Hadiths that state the direct opposite to what we find in the Qur'an with regards to Muhammad and miracles; but I have well demonstrated the fallacy behind such a concept!
Well, I now understand where you sculpted your "parochialism" from - as demonstrated by your mis-quotes of Biblical texts. Matthew 7 is not the text for the paraphrases you attributed to Jesus, so let me first help you think more correctly there:
And these signs shall follow them that believe;
In my name shall they cast out devils;
they shall speak with new tongues.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me,
the works that I do shall he do also;
and greater works than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father.
Do those verses look or sound like Jesus was speaking about "false prophets"? In John 14:12, for example, do you equate "He that believeth on me" with your parochial "false prophets"?
This is why I keep my fingers crossed about Muslim apologists who parade a pretended scholarship they clearly don't have!
I'm not one of those to equate them, so it's really a mute point that you mentioned it at all.
Unfortunately, I'm neither an Anglican nor a Catholic - and I have no clues why they or anyone for that matter would ban miracles on TV. Such a move was celebrated by Muslims - understandably so, because they know they have nothing to show for their boasted "miracles of Muhammad". If there were any miracles in Islam at all, would you as a Muslim be ranting about "outright fakes" or "majic"? Please don't humour me!
When you can take care of your shallow and ignorant comments about reading your "parochial" imbroglio into other's persuasions, then the grey ares in Islam will not prove too difficult a task for you.
Lol. . . clap for you! How much is the value or worth of a "wing of mosquito"?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mukina2: 9:13pm On Nov 14, 2007|
" 1. Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among Al-Mushrikûn,were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence.
2. A Messenger (Muhammad ()) from Allâh, reciting (the Qur'ân) purified pages [purified from Al-Bâtil (falsehood, etc.)].
3. Containing correct and straight laws from Allâh.
4. And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not until after there came to them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad () and whatever was revealed to him).
5. And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give Zakât: and that is the right religion.
6. Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad ()) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
7. Verily, those who believe [in the Oneness of Allâh, and in His Messenger Muhammad ()) including all obligations ordered by Islâm] and do righteous good deeds, they are the best of creatures.
8. Their reward with their Lord is 'Adn (Eden) Paradise (Gardens of Eternity), underneath which rivers flow, they will abide therein forever, Allâh Well-Pleased with them, and they with Him. That is for him who fears his Lord.
and Suratul Al Kahf verse 107
""Verily! Those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism) and do righteous deeds, shall have the Gardens of Al-Firdaus (the Paradise) for their entertainment"
Two examples out of many in the Holy Quran . where Allah Promised Muslims . .Muslims who observed the 5 pillars of Islam steadfastly and where pure in heart.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 10:08pm On Nov 14, 2007|
this is the typical frightened and insecure response you get from muslims seeking to excuse the fact that mohammed, for all his pretended prophethood, could not perform EVEN 1 MIRACLE!
Miracles are not the "epitome of answering prayers" . . . but God said . . . John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
1. Is performing of miracles the attribute of false prophets? Because mohammed was powerless to perform just one?
2. Was Jesus really refering to false prophets in the verse your wrongly quote?
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Jesus Christ gives each and every christian the gifts of miracles . . . read back to John 14:12. For greater works than He did shall we do (we that believeth on His name . . . not just every tom, Joystick and mohammed).
However . . . Romans 11:29 (For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
That you backslide tomorrow does not mean that those gifts are automatically lost. . . read again Mathew 7:22 . . . Jesus Christ was saying in essence, the most important thing is the salvation of your soul and Holy Living . . . miracles are the rights of every christian but is not a direct passport to heaven. that you can raise the dead does not mean you will make heaven if you dont live a life pure, Holy and acceptable unto God.
In no way was Mathew 7 refering to false prophets.
Only those who have something to hide and are unsure about their very religion are forever seeing "attacks", "insults" and "combative" replies. I have not made an ignorant statement . . . chanting "there is no deity . . ." bla bla bla is no better than chanting magic incantations as mere words/letters cannot save ur soul.
Belief in that phrase makes you muslims but does not deliver you from sin and the bondage of islamic oppression.
Where in the quran did Allah promise you eternal life in the hereafter? Where did he promise you salvation from sin?
Rather Allah has promised you life as a slave in janat that even his own prophet on his death bed was not sure of making . . . and you accuse me of making shallow statements?
But i am worth more than the wing of a mosquito to my Saviour . . . Luke 12:7 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.
That is how important i am to God . . .
now whom did Allah refer to as slaves for all their prayers . . . and rituals?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by jerrymania(m): 10:15pm On Nov 14, 2007|
I impressed by the way u guys seem to counter-strike "our muslim brothers"
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mdsocks(m): 8:39am On Nov 15, 2007|
this is the typical frightened and insecure response you get from muslims seeking to excuse the fact that mohammed, for all his pretended prophethood, could not perform EVEN 1 MIRACLE!You seem to always forget,
concerning the issue of miracles
If i am to use the various miracles of Prophet Muhammad, You had all be shouting
I will use one of the Prophets who is in your Books, Abraham
During Prophet Ibrahim's time, His father were idolaters who woship stones and object
One day they had a sort of festival and left home to the town center for the celebration leaving Prophet Ibrahim alone at home.
Afetr leaving, Prophet Ibrahim(ASWS) destroyed all their gods and left the biggest amongst them alone, after this he hanged te cutlass over the neck of the biggest.
When the idolaters came back, they were suprised to find there gods destroyed, They panted frantically and said they new who would have done this bad thing to them.
Prophet ibrahim was called and asked if he new anything about it.
He answered that he new nothing about it,that they should ask the biggest with the axe if he can hear or speak to them who destroyed their gods,
This made the idolaters angry and decided that they would burn Prophet Ibrahim , They gathered firewoods and made fire ,
After doing all these, they threw Prophet Ibrahim into the fire,
Allah the most high sent his word down, and the fire turned cooled for Prophet Ibrahim, he was not hurt by the fire and came out clean and unhurt
With this ,the idolaters sent Prophet Ibrahim packing from the town.
Isn't this a Miracle from Allah
The creation of man, earth, universe waterfalls heaven bodies ,jins and so much more
are they not creation of Allah.
I will only ask two questions
1. Where was Jesus, when this was happening?
2. You christains beleive that only those saved by Jesus would go to Paradise,
What about those who came before Jesus ?
A miracle of Muhammad
When he was doing he Hijrah to medinah
They were pursued by the meccans, They hide in a cave, The meccans search all through the cave and could not find him ,wheareas he saw them entering and going out
What of the splitting of the moon ?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by jerrymania(m): 9:11am On Nov 15, 2007|
how do you know this story is true? or is it another man's deception upon you?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mdsocks(m): 9:45am On Nov 15, 2007|
I have said it before, even if they were to be sent a letter to each one of them that he is real they would cry "it is a lie"
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by olabowale(m): 12:46pm On Nov 15, 2007|
@Pligrim.1: God is not a Yoruba word. It is English. Oluwa, Olorun, Olodumare, etc, are Yoruba words as names or descriotions/attributes of the Creator of all things. You are a Yoruba Woman. All of the above are factual statements. You are not an English woman. Therefore, I will like to ask you, since you had asked Mukina, because she is a muslim, to tell or show you, a single miracle from 'Allah,' please, show us a single miracle from Olorun, Oluwa, etc.
I ask you this, because before you became a christian, you had and continues to be a Yoruba. You have been a Yoruba longer, than you a christian. Moreover, is Jesus yorubas' Olorun, Olodumare, etc? Really, in Yoruba chritianity, is Jesus Olorun, Olodumare, Oluwa, etc? If your heart tells you that Jesus is not it, please be sincere enough to tell us. We are not in your heart, but you do have conscience?
Apart from all the miracles that Allah in Arabic, an old language, God in English, a very young language, He through Muhammad(as), put forward Qur'an. He challenges Jinn and man to produce a book of likeness to it, the Qur'an. He even says, so as to make it easier, a single chapter! No one has been abke to do it. Your arab chritian community can take the challenge, without being shotdown, from the satrting gate. Dr. Anis Sorossh, a palestinian christian, in the US, foolishly after 911 produced what he called Furqan. I saw a copy, in the ramadan of 01 or 02. Right there in the Masjid, At Taqwa, in Brooklyn, the Guinea Conakry muslims, the largest single block of the congregation, derailed its as unworthy of the cahallenge. He patterned its style after the Bible writing.
You forgot that Olodumare, in Yoruba, is the same in God in English and definately the same Allah in Arabic! Therefore, Arabic being the oldest of the three, because the Yorubas came from Arab penisula,( learn Yoruba history before you challenge me on this one), and english being the youngest, Allah is most likely His true name.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by olabowale(m): 1:03pm On Nov 15, 2007|
@Davidylan: Have you heard Oba a joke aiye, Oba asake orun ( The God that gives inclusively to everyone on earth, The God that gives selectively to the selected in heaven)? God hears and and if He wills accept, He accepts the prayers of whoever. Be that one, a believer in Him or not. The Hindu prays to God, but through their lords and supposed saviours. So do the other Idolators. The Onishongos and others of Yoruba religions, pray to God, also through their lors and supposed saviours. You know where am going with this? Am here now; The christians pray to God, also through their lord and saviour Jesus Christ, son of Mary.
However, the muslims pray to God directly and for sure not through any medium, be it known or unknown.
As to Allah being a god from the 360 some gods of the pagan makkans, please proof it to me. Proof to me that I am worshipping a preislamic god. When it was the mission of Muhammad to actually destroy idolatory. Why don't i have the image or idol in my house. okay, in my heart?
On a different note, have you sen this www.lordsgym.com thing? Its very shameful. No wonder they will sell religion for measly price.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by olabowale(m): 1:10pm On Nov 15, 2007|
I prayed to Allah to make my mother a Muslim. Alhamdulillah, she left christianity and became a muslim at age 80 na dcounting. I am praying that many will come to islam, from my contact with them. Alhamdulillah, my Lord Allah is making it possible. Yet His mercy is abounding in my life. Where is the problem, david, Pligrim, etc? God is the Creator of all and He can accept or reject any prayer. No one can challenge Him. Truly, He is Kabiyesi.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by olabowale(m): 1:18pm On Nov 15, 2007|
Islam is entering even unexoected places. In Nigeria, it is now in Igboland. It is also with the Calabar people and so many ethnic groups. In the west, the white people are acceptingit in drove. The Jews are also accepting it, in and out of palestine, etc. If you guys live long enough, InshaAllah, you will. And you relax enough to accpet guidance from your Creator, you will bacome muslims. The greatest of Islam, in the time of Muhammad (as), became one of the strongest as soon as he accepted it. that man was Umar Al Khattab, (ra), the second calipha.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by ty2tara: 1:40pm On Nov 15, 2007|
Well as far as i am concerned, i know that there is no other name in heaven, on earth and even under the earth by which man shall be saved, save for the name of JESUS CHRIST.Also, no one cometh to the Father except by HIM. This implies that the only ticket to answered prayers is not just asking in that name, but also believing that whatsoever you have asked in that Name, shall be granted unto you.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by olabowale(m): 1:54pm On Nov 15, 2007|
Thats what you said. Thats your own opinion. You wait and I will also wait for the judgement of God. Not Jesus or any other. Please list the geneology of Jesus the way to whatever you want. From your Bible, you have two. List bothof them You will have to show us God in the loop.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mdsocks(m): 1:58pm On Nov 15, 2007|
what you people forget is that, There are people who lived before Jesus
What would be their gain Like moses , abraham and others
Because they did not pass through Jesus means they are going to hell fire ?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by cgift(m): 8:31pm On Nov 15, 2007|
That is uncessary. I wont proof a thing though I have a number. Be bold enough to investigate yourself. Be true to yourself and do some soul-searching. Go back in history and be able to comfirm to yourself that it was Mohammad that introduced Allah and not that he 'redefined' Allah. It should not be a hard thing for you to do some reaserach into archealogy, writings, cultures etc, should it?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 10:00pm On Nov 15, 2007|
Where sir, is this faabu in the bible? Maybe na your own torah e dey!
are these your examples of the miracles of mohammed?
All what you related about Abraham exists in the minds of delusional muslims. You could as well have titled that story "arabian nights: Tales told by Abraham".
David was regarded as a man after God's own heart, Daniel, Samuel, Elijah, Job . . . all lived and died before Jesus Christ came to die on the cross for our sins. The difference was during our time, we have the sacrifice of Christ once and for all making all atonement for sin. In the old testament they lived by the law and were cleansed by the blood of bulls and goats once a yr.
Is hiding in a cave a miracle? So boju boju is now a miracle? una muslims sef!
Of course how could the enemies find him when he was busy HIDING in a cave?
lol and when did this happen? why didnt his companions see it?
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 10:02pm On Nov 15, 2007|
your mother is 80, no offence but even if she converted to islam she wouldnt know the difference. True christians cannot be converted to the religion of idols so i can safely say your mother was no christian or at best one in name only.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by davidylan(m): 10:06pm On Nov 15, 2007|
We dont forget anything . . . we read the bible where the exploits of these mighty men are written so we cant have forgotten about them.
They are in heaven today . . . everyone is judged by the standards of righteousness and godliness available during their lifetime.
In the old testament, all they needed was to sacrifice animals once a yr and obey God's commandments.
|Re: Christians, Does God Answer A Muslim's Prayer? by mdsocks(m): 10:22am On Nov 16, 2007|
lol and when did this happen? why didnt his companions see it?and this is a case of you not understanding Islam before blutting out
This is a well known miracle of Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W)
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