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Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Kobojunkie: 3:42pm On May 20, 2012 |
andresia: I shudder to think that in the case of break-up, I will be in the same country with psychopaths and schizophrenics like Beaf and his kind 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:44pm On May 20, 2012 |
alj harem: How is my nationality your problem? Was I talking to you? ayobase: Where is MsDarkskin? PRESENT! |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 3:45pm On May 20, 2012 |
nagoma: Listen, bro. To be honest, we don't have to part ways (I've personally been all over the North and love it). We just need to be truthful to ourselves and create a framework to maintain that truthfullness. There are deep questions that need answering like: 1. What makes a person a Nigerian? 2. What are the rights of a Nigerian (child, adult, female, male)? 3. What is the contract of responsibility between state and citizen? 4. How does religion fit into nation discuss and governance? 5. How do we define equity? 7. By what parameters can justice be said to have been served? 8. Who owns mineral bearing lands? 9. Who owns mineral bearing waters? 10. What makes one a citizen of a state or LG? If we truly answer most of the above, the so called North-South dichotomy will shrivel away and melt into nothingness. If discuss and still find no reason for co-existence, then we can part peacefully. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 3:45pm On May 20, 2012 |
The issue here is simple. Nigerians and other have 2 choices 1. We go for Sovereign National conference (SNC) so each nation would have freedom to chose who ever leads them etc and void of tribalistic accusations 2. Allow GEJ to be the president of[b] a NATION[/b] not a section of the country and also allow those that criticise him to do so in peace. It is the FG call. I personally want option 1. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:45pm On May 20, 2012 |
Beaf: @shymmex Typical . HE is Nigerian when it's convenient but in the UK he sees himself as a class of his own. How dare he try to throw stones? LOL I READ his kind like chapter books on a daily basis. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:46pm On May 20, 2012 |
beaf aka nairaland/twitter SA, you can actually work on enough regional signatures (i'll work north for you) and have your ogas endorsement then forward to UN to oversee the break up in peace (through referendum). makes me wonder what in the world are you guys waiting for since we all know thats what you are working towards 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 3:47pm On May 20, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: Calm down, I wasn't posting to you either I posted to shymmex. Anyway how was your day |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 3:49pm On May 20, 2012 |
4evergod3: Words of a dog and baboon, parasite and lover of the status quo. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Diligence: 3:50pm On May 20, 2012 |
Focus on the message, not the messenger! Truth hurts but must the spoken! That's how healing process takes place; retrace and reset! 2 Likes |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ballabriggs: 3:50pm On May 20, 2012 |
andresia: I shudder to think that in the case of break-up, I will be in the same country with psychopaths and schizophrenics like Beaf and his kind Thank you my brother or sister which ever one you are. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 3:52pm On May 20, 2012 |
Did I not say shymmex was suffering from an inferiority complex? See how he is trying to pull racist moves against MsDarkskin, because she is trauncing him intellectually? 2 Likes |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:53pm On May 20, 2012 |
Beaf: Did I not say shymmex was suffering from an inferiority complex? See how he is trying to pull racist moves against MsDarkskin, because she is trauncing him intellectually? Diligence: Focus on the message, not the messenger! Truth hurts but must the spoken! That's how healing process takes place; retrace and reset! WELL SAID!! Common sense apparently isn't so common. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ayobase(m): 3:54pm On May 20, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: MsDarkSkin: |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 3:55pm On May 20, 2012 |
DivideUs: beaf aka nairaland/twitter SA, you can actually work on enough regional signatures (i'll work north for you) and have your ogas endorsement then forward to UN to oversee the break up in peace (through referendum). makes me wonder what in the world are you guys waiting for since we all know thats what you are working towards Please, be constructive. If you want out, you go to the UN. That fact that you've mentioned the need for foreign oversight shows that we need to talk about the mistakes of 1914. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ballabriggs: 3:56pm On May 20, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: Errrm You do realise that is discriminatory? 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 3:56pm On May 20, 2012 |
Diligence: Focus on the message, not the messenger! Truth hurts but must the spoken! That's how healing process takes place; retrace and reset! Simples. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ayobase(m): 3:57pm On May 20, 2012 |
alj harem: Hmmmmm! |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:58pm On May 20, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: There were no slaves with chains around their necks working on cotton, and sugarcane plantations in Nigeria.. We were not lynched - neither did we lose our culture... Our experience was different, period... Stop comparing apples to oranges - we had it bad as well - but not the same experience.. Just as the Indian and Chinese experience were different from the black experience... Shame on you! SHAME ON YOU! We have a common goal, which is liberty - and Africa for Africans.. But Pan-Africanism is different from black consciousness... Black consciousness is about solving AFRICAN PROBLEMS from an AFRICAN perspective - that's what birthed AFROCENTRISM... Pan-Africanism on the other hand is about working towards a common goal of one Africa - can you peep the difference?? Read more!! According to Emma West, you shouldn't be in the UK but you are. So deal with it. I shouldn't be in the UK, but I'm here lol!! And blacks have been coming to the UK since the beginning of time.. Heck, the first Anglo-Saxons were blacks - even the Romans said they met negroes in the UK when they got here... The Alaafins of Oyo have been coming here since the 1700s, and a lot of Yoruba prince in the 1800s schooled in UK... Don't debate what you don't know.. Emma West was just chatting rubbish IMO.. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 3:59pm On May 20, 2012 |
ayobase: ballabriggs: Now that i've read it, I do see where you are coming from. I will edit it as that was not my intention. I apologize. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 3:59pm On May 20, 2012 |
I am enjoying how Mzdarkskin a Jamaican has picked a side on a Nigerian Issue. quite interesting to see |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ballabriggs: 4:00pm On May 20, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: Apology accepted. |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ayobase(m): 4:00pm On May 20, 2012 |
Diligence: Focus on the message, not the messenger! Truth hurts but must the spoken! That's how healing process takes place; retrace and reset! Simple o my brother! We dey reset our computer sef if it messes up! Even we dey reset out brain sef! Abi u no know? |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by ezer(m): 4:01pm On May 20, 2012 |
I gez this thread is meant 4 bigots. Hmm...@op, wat gives u the right to interprete Mr. President's speech to ur own understanding and tag it treasonable? Buhari made an omninous warning, & i gez u supported his statement, right? Mr. President simply identified a problem and promised change. Now, should the mention of 1914 be d issue or the solution to the problems? That the problem started from 1914 is implausible shud not be the point of argument. Instead, there shud be ques like, wat is the identified problem? Have u (GEJ) made plans to tackle the problem? Wat is the way 4ward wit dis new (not really new) development? 9ja is so divided that if, for instance, a yoruba man bcoms d president, other ethic groups wud criticize him till d end of his tenure. 9ja is not united, u and i on NL are not united, the people out there are not united, and u say the call for an SNC is not necessary? Oh common, the mention of 1914 shudnt be the problem. Is GEJ the cause of the problem, or will it take 2yrs 2solve an existing problem 4over 50yrs? The attack on GEJ assail my mind and 2some xtent not necessary. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Kobojunkie: 4:02pm On May 20, 2012 |
ezer: I gez this thread is meant 4 bigots. Hmm...@op, wat gives u the right to interprete Mr. President's speech to ur own understanding and tag it treasonable? Buhari made an omninous warning, & i gez u supported his statement, right?I have a ready made follow up question for people who come up with the stuff you have come in with here . . . What do the words of a un-elected(un-approved by the people) politician(ie Buhari), bound only by the same rules that bind the average civilian out there, have to do with the utterances of the number one citizen of Nigeria, an ELECTED(APPROVED AND SWORN IN) president who swore an OATH(upholding the amalgamation, creation, and unity of Nigeria as an entity beyond ethnic divisions) to represent Nigeria and all that it is, to the world in and outside of Nigeria?? |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 4:02pm On May 20, 2012 |
Again: Why are the lovers of the status quo scared shiitless at the prospect of the re-engineering of our unity? Why does it freeze the brains of the parasites and boko haram fans amongst us? Why does the mention of 1914 make some pee themselves? Just asking. 2 Likes |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 4:03pm On May 20, 2012 |
Beaf: dude must be a comedian b4 his appointment, you and your oga want out just as much as we do but unlike you we do not have govt resources, all we ask is that you take the lead and trust me, we will follow. the need for foreign help is cos of the lack of honesty from your dundee of a boss |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 4:06pm On May 20, 2012 |
ezer: I gez this thread is meant 4 bigots. Hmm...@op, wat gives u the right to interprete Mr. President's speech to ur own understanding and tag it treasonable? Buhari made an omninous warning, & i gez u supported his statement, right? Mr. President simply identified a problem and promised change. Now, should the mention of 1914 be d issue or the solution to the problems? That the problem started from 1914 is implausible shud not be the point of argument. Instead, there shud be ques like, wat is the identified problem? Have u (GEJ) made plans to tackle the problem? Wat is the way 4ward wit dis new (not really new) development? 9ja is so divided that if, for instance, a yoruba man bcoms d president, other ethic groups wud criticize him till d end of his tenure. 9ja is not united, u and i on NL are not united, the people out there are not united, and u say the call for an SNC is not necessary? Oh common, the mention of 1914 shudnt be the problem. Is GEJ the cause of the problem, or will it take 2yrs 2solve an existing problem 4over 50yrs? The attack on GEJ assail my mind and 2some xtent not necessary. LOL |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Beaf: 4:06pm On May 20, 2012 |
DivideUs: I'm a bit tired of this daft "appointment" and "oga" stuff. Are you guys so light brained that you cannot discuss without lying? Why are you status quo luv'n phucks scared shiitless at the mention of 1914? It takes a lot of low self-esteem to say you have no resources. What do you think the brains in people are? What do you think Japan has as mineral resources outside sand, yet they are the 3rd biggest economy. Dunce. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 4:08pm On May 20, 2012 |
Beaf: Why not tell GEJ to divide us already ? What is the issue here dude you cannot just be insulting a section of the country. Now they want division you are complaining again ! Rubbish |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by aljharem(m): 4:09pm On May 20, 2012 |
Mzdarkskin I hope I did not scare you away. I apologise if I did |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by Nobody: 4:10pm On May 20, 2012 |
shymmex: Shymmex, Pan-Africanism is the mother of black consciousness. You cannot have an egg with no parent/source to lay them. Common sense. When it comes to history...I run laps and miles around you. Nothing you have said comes close to a challenge to what I have posted.... FYI: There was slavery in Africa (as in Africans and foreigners CHAINING, KILLING AND VIOLATING) Africans throughout west Africa - not just Nigeria. Those who had slaves were the biggest contributors to the Trans Atlantic slave trade. Yes, we lost most of our language and identity but that was because we were taken to foreign land and given new ones. But know that the SAME treatment we had, was already in Africa and still continued on African soil. If it didn't you all wouldn't have been under foreign rule and your resources exploited to the advantage of outsiders. I made an AWESOME comparison between yourself and Emma West as you both "chat rubbish". And You HAVE proven what I said all along. Africa's issues begin with Africans. It's time to do better. Get educated and some self esteem, because you're lost. 1 Like |
Re: President Jonathan's Speech At Enugu Is Treasonable by rapu4real: 4:10pm On May 20, 2012 |
I strongly agree wit GEJ,though he's also an addition 2 d mistake we have in Nigeria...the whole entity called NIgeria is a big joke |
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