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Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 3:42pm On May 27, 2012
Tanimola, Debosky, Jarus, Davidlyan and co. God has blessed you guys.
Guys, I need your sincere advise.

I have done a BSc in a UK university in Chemistry with Chemical engineering and by God's grace I'll finish with a First class (God willing). I wanted to study Medicine but I could not stand the number of years required.
I also have some work experience as a shadow manager in a company, part-time for 2 years, here in the UK. (Sorry I am giving sketchy details but its necessary for private reasons).

Now, I want to relocate to Nigeria and work in Nigeria.

I am torn between an MBA in business administration and an MSc in Petroleum engineering.

I love science oriented topics as I won scholarships from the University and Royal society of chemistry UK. I did not really enjoy the managerial role but I have some work experience in it.


So, guys I need your advise!

MSc petroleum engineering (my first choice) or an MBA?! I want to break into the petroleum industry but my fear is that if I have an MBA, I might be considered as a "jack of all trades" and hence, reduce my chances of entering the industry.

I just want to break into the industry to gain the work experience as the money will come later. Which of the courses gives me a better chance of breaking into the industry?!
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Sammy107d(m): 4:12pm On May 27, 2012
Your answer is pretty clear in there, but I'll introduce another point. How about placing more thought into the NYSC right now, since you want to work down here?. You'll get sufficient time to study the market and decide during that year. I'm in a similar position, and like you, I had high, calculated ideas about what I wanted. I'm a few months into the programme now and my ideas/ambitions are clearer and more realistic, maybe better.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 4:14pm On May 27, 2012
Thanks for your advise.

The NYSC stuff is a bit scary because I might be posted to a school and all without gaining a self-knowledge about the oil industry. . .
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by bukahands(m): 5:06pm On May 27, 2012
@ola@ you must participate in NYSC before you can work in any major establishment except you graduates from university at 30yrs or above
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Sammy107d(m): 5:36pm On May 27, 2012
Odds says that you will be posted to a school somewhere in some city/town/village to teach Chemistry and Maths. It is the scariest thing, and it's a profound waste of time. I was lucky (let's just call it luck) to have been posted to a university as an admin staff. Lecturing is unlikely, even if that's what you've been posted to do. I basically carry bundles of files here and there, do menial stuff and make photocopies. EPIC waste of time for someone who had so many tangible opportunities pre-nysc. I'm not quick to despair, so I'm making the best of it, while doing things to ensure that a minute post-nysc is not wasted. I don't fancy the idea of a postgrad before NYSC. You want to be as 'simple and common' as possible. Also, I have a strong feeling you'll become less fixated on a particular industry once you're on ground. I'd like to share some more details, but they're not appropriate for a public forum.
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 5:43pm On May 27, 2012
bukahands:
@ola@ you must participate in NYSC before you can work in any major establishment except you graduates from university at 30yrs or above

I am below thirty and I will by God's grace!

Sammy107_d: Odds says that you will be posted to a school somewhere in some city/town/village to teach Chemistry and Maths. It is the scariest thing, and it's a profound waste of time. I was lucky (let's just call it luck) to have been posted to a university as an admin staff. Lecturing is unlikely, even if that's what you've been posted to do. I basically carry bundles of files here and there, do menial stuff and make photocopies. EPIC waste of time for someone who had so many tangible opportunities pre-nysc. I'm not quick to despair, so I'm making the best of it, while doing things to ensure that a minute post-nysc is not wasted. I don't fancy the idea of a postgrad before NYSC. You want to be as 'simple and common' as possible. Also, I have a strong feeling you'll become less fixated on a particular industry once you're on ground. I'd like to share some more details, but they're not appropriate for a public forum.

Thanks for sharing.
I guess I'll come back to do the NYSC stuff before doing the Master's programme. Hopefully, I get posted to somewhere good!

As for the Masters itself, I think I'll go for the MBA.
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Sammy107d(m): 5:58pm On May 27, 2012
Both the Msc and the MBA are good choices. It only depends on exactly what you want: Technical/specialist or business/generalist. Use the NYSC year do discover your true flair. My advice is to work for another two years after nysc, then decide. You might do some real engineering and hate it or you can try business and find out that it's not for you. Hard to know fresh out of school. An MBA could be a grave mistake for many reasons. You should only go into that if you're absolutely sure of what opportunities you're trying to boost, not to create those opportunities at entry-level.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 6:24pm On May 27, 2012
Sammy107_d: Both the Msc and the MBA are good choices. It only depends on exactly what you want: Technical/specialist or business/generalist. Use the NYSC year do discover your true flair. My advice is to work for another two years after nysc, then decide. You might do some real engineering and hate it or you can try business and find out that it's not for you. Hard to know fresh out of school. An MBA could be a grave mistake for many reasons. You should only go into that if you're absolutely sure of what opportunities you're trying to boost, not to create those opportunities at entry-level.

Sammy, thanks a lot!
To be honest, I am quite comfortable in both aspects (business and technical) but I feel I am better in the technical aspect of things rather than the business aspect. Thanks for your advise and different approach. I'll take them on-board and think about it. Although, its more likely now that I'll go to Nigeria to do the NYSC before come back for a Masters.
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by deenee: 10:33am On May 28, 2012
I will advise that you go for he MSc in Pet. Eng. By doing this, you will become a specialist in your field. Besides, there is a high demand for pet engineers in the O and G sector in Nigeria. The MBA at this point will be a total waste of time and money because you don't have the work experience now that would make it a worthy investment.

Additionally, I will recommend the NYSC in Nigeria once you are done with your undergrad. If you eventually graduate with a first then you should be able to put your foot in one of the oil coys in Nigeria but this will also be subject to your performance during their recruitment process which I gather is very competitive. Thus, you might consider preparing in advance for this.

You can also be on the look out for some of the major players like ExxonMobil, Shell,Total et al. As they periodically participate in recruitment fairs in the UK and US. This is perhaps the best safety net you can have in the near term. After relevant experience, you can then decide to take the MBA route strictly for networking purposes! All the best!

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 11:53am On May 28, 2012
^^^
Thank you!!! Your input is very much appreciated!
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Egbonlai(m): 10:45am On Jun 04, 2012
I am an NCE holder in Business Education(Accounting Option), i also av a B.sc(Ed) in Economics...i really want to enroll for a Mastas programme ei her M.sc or MBA at U.I...pls i nid advice from you guys,and i currently got a job with National Lottery Regulatory Commission as a Trainee Officier..
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by tanimola22: 10:52am On Jun 04, 2012
Egbonlai: I am an NCE holder in Business Education(Accounting Option), i also av a B.sc(Ed) in Economics...i really want to enroll for a Mastas programme ei her M.sc or MBA at U.I...pls i nid advice from you guys,and i currently got a job with National Lottery Regulatory Commission as a Trainee Officier..

One is not sure of the kind of advice you need.

T22
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by nitrogen(m): 10:55am On Jun 04, 2012
Egbonlai: I am an NCE holder in Business Education(Accounting Option), i also av a B.sc(Ed) in Economics...i really want to enroll for a Mastas programme ei her M.sc or MBA at U.I...pls i nid advice from you guys,and i currently got a job with National Lottery Regulatory Commission as a Trainee Officier..
I think m.sc will be better, since you have a b.Ed and nce cirtificate.(Education line)

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Sammy107d(m): 9:34pm On Jun 04, 2012
I can't help but wonder if going for the 'Ed' degrees was a deliberate move. That'll provide a little context regarding your goals. As an aside, I am dis-inclined to think that the generic 'Trainee Officer' is a title of any value, and I can only imagine the lack of responsibilities on that job.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Egbonlai(m): 10:09am On Jun 10, 2012
@tanimola, i baggd my B.sc(ed) from TASUED tru Direct Entry 4rm FCE(T)AKOKA...i wuld luv to in d nearest future go in2 the teachin/lecturin line...will it be a good idea to enroll for M.sc Economics at U.i wt a second class lower and nt MBA
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by tanimola22: 11:46am On Jun 10, 2012
Egbonlai: @tanimola, i baggd my B.sc(ed) from TASUED tru Direct Entry 4rm FCE(T)AKOKA...i wuld luv to in d nearest future go in2 the teachin/lecturin line...will it be a good idea to enroll for M.sc Economics at U.i wt a second class lower and nt MBA

Omo, you want to do lecturing in Economics. That is nice. Abeg go the other route. Forget MBA for now.

Make sure you do the MSc Economics well O. Anything above 3.99 (to the nearest 2.dp) is good. Don't worry, I have seen third class degree holders who even made up to 4.5 at Master's level. All you need is intense dedication, you too will do it.

Have you asked if it is possible to go for Master's straight? In my view, I think it is possible only if you did the full undergraduate micro, macro, math for econs and econometrics modules. However, even with these courses under your belt, those naija schools can still be funny for no explainable reason .

See mhen, you have no problem. If it is lecturing you want to do and you can successfully complete your MSc and PhD, then you will actualize your dreams. At this point in time, lecturing in naija is not that competitive compared to getting a private sector job. I even claim that many failures of private sector job hunting are the ones striving to do lecturing jobs nowadays. Of course, I am excluding those older lecturers. I doff my hat for some of them because they never wanted any private sector jobs. I had one then in naija, a graduate of Harvard, who told us that in his days as an undergraduate student, only average students pursued private sector jobs. Imagine what people of nowadays would do if they had degrees from the likes of Harvard and co.

Anyway, the above said is just to let you know that you stand a very high chance in lecturing. To further gladden your heart, there are many successful lecturers who made lower grades than yours. I gave an example of one of them in one of my previous posts. In addition, the person under whose guidance I grew as a young teacher also did NCE+B.Ed(Accounting)+PgDip+ ICAN(chartered 1984 or so)+ MSc(distinction)+M.Ed+PhD. Today, he lectures at one of the very popular universities in naija. I will not give too much information because you would guess the person correctly.

So if you feel you can withstand the rigor of research, then go ahead and pursue a career in academics.

All the best!

T22.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by nitrogen(m): 8:24pm On Jun 10, 2012
@egbonlai, do not try the part-time m.sc programme, its always tough to come out with a distinction after the whole thing except you are extraordinary. It wont be easy to work and study at the same time with a distinction as your target.
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Egbonlai(m): 9:19am On Jun 11, 2012
@tanimola, thank you for the advice..mo appreciate. I now realise that in my own situation and educational qualification doing M.sc is better than MBA.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Egbonlai(m): 9:31am On Jun 11, 2012
@nitrogen, u jst scared me o! You sure have an xperience about the partime m.sc. and the truth is am an average learner,apart from m.sc Economics,what other courses can be open for me in my situation,cos at the moment fulltime wuld only make me lose my job..
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by nitrogen(m): 9:52am On Jun 11, 2012
Egbonlai: @nitrogen, u jst scared me o! You sure have an xperience about the partime m.sc. and the truth is am an average learner,apart from m.sc Economics,what other courses can be open for me in my situation,cos at the moment fulltime wuld only make me lose my job..
I do not, but from statistics and what is been heard. In nigeria 1 out of 100 masters grad with distinctions went through the part-time route while the rest were full timers.
P.S. Dont forget that 'distinction' is the take here, for other grades, it may be easy for a part time student.
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 10:45am On Jun 21, 2012
If you guys can remember, I was here last month to solicit for some advise regarding two MSc programs well, I thanks the ALMIGHTY GOD for HIS mercies endures forever! May HIS NAME be praised forever and ever, AMEN!

I ended up with a First class to HIS Glory, not my glory! And not just a First class but a VERY GOOD First class result! Father God, thank you!




I am still thinking of what to do. . . . may God bless you guys for ever gracious words of inspiration. Amen!


deenee: I will advise that you go for he MSc in Pet. Eng. By doing this, you will become a specialist in your field. Besides, there is a high demand for pet engineers in the O and G sector in Nigeria. The MBA at this point will be a total waste of time and money because you don't have the work experience now that would make it a worthy investment.

Additionally, I will recommend the NYSC in Nigeria once you are done with your undergrad. If you eventually graduate with a first then you should be able to put your foot in one of the oil coys in Nigeria but this will also be subject to your performance during their recruitment process which I gather is very competitive. Thus, you might consider preparing in advance for this.

You can also be on the look out for some of the major players like ExxonMobil, Shell,Total et al. As they periodically participate in recruitment fairs in the UK and US. This is perhaps the best safety net you can have in the near term. After relevant experience, you can then decide to take the MBA route strictly for networking purposes! All the best!


Your advise is much appreciated. God bless you and thank you!

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by tanimola22: 12:57pm On Jun 21, 2012
ola@:
If you guys can remember, I was here last month to solicit for some advise regarding two MSc programs well, I thanks the ALMIGHTY GOD for HIS mercies endures forever! May HIS NAME be praised forever and ever, AMEN!

I ended up with a First class to HIS Glory, not my glory! And not just a First class but a VERY GOOD First class result! Father God, thank you!




I am still thinking of what to do. . . . may God bless you guys for ever gracious words of inspiration. Amen!




Your advise is much appreciated. God bless you and thank you!

Hi, congrats and thank Baban God for you. Your achievement is quite impressive.

T22
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by essentialone(m): 4:56pm On Aug 31, 2018
Please which university in Nigeria offers an MSc in Business Management or Business Administration

Not MBA ooo
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Oluwapresley(m): 12:37am On Jun 01, 2020
ola6:
Tanimola, Debosky, Jarus, Davidlyan and co. God has blessed you guys.
Guys, I need your sincere advise.

I have done a BSc in a UK university in Chemistry with Chemical engineering and by God's grace I'll finish with a First class (God willing). I wanted to study Medicine but I could not stand the number of years required.
I also have some work experience as a shadow manager in a company, part-time for 2 years, here in the UK. (Sorry I am giving sketchy details but its necessary for private reasons).

Now, I want to relocate to Nigeria and work in Nigeria.

I am torn between an MBA in business administration and an MSc in Petroleum engineering.

I love science oriented topics as I won scholarships from the University and Royal society of chemistry UK. I did not really enjoy the managerial role but I have some work experience in it.


So, guys I need your advise!

MSc petroleum engineering (my first choice) or an MBA?! I want to break into the petroleum industry but my fear is that if I have an MBA, I might be considered as a "jack of all trades" and hence, reduce my chances of entering the industry.

I just want to break into the industry to gain the work experience as the money will come later. Which of the courses gives me a better chance of breaking into the industry?!

Hi Ola. Trust you are doing well. I just stumbled on this thread now and I wanted to find out just out of curiosity; have you broken into the oil and gas industry?
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 9:33pm On Jun 18, 2020
Oluwapresley:


Hi Ola. Trust you are doing well. I just stumbled on this thread now and I wanted to find out just out of curiosity; have you broken into the oil and gas industry?

Yes I did in 2015.

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Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Oluwapresley(m): 5:29am On Jun 19, 2020
ola6:

Yes I did in 2015.

Niceeee!!! Well-done, Chief!
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by Menh: 10:21pm On May 27, 2022
Hi Ola, Please I need your advise.

My dream is to get marketing jobs in the Oil and Gas industry.

I'm currently running my MBA Marketing, and I posses BSc. International Studies.

I'm a Member of the Nigerian Institute of Management Chartered and planning to take my Certification from the National Institute of Marketing Nigeria next year.

Also, I posses Health Safety & Environmental Management certifications from the British International Safety Organisation.

Diploma in French Language from the Ministry of Education - France.

What other qualifications do I require to enable me secure a job Marketing job in the Oil and Gas industry?

Thanks
Re: Torn Between A Msc And A MBA by ola6: 3:59am On Feb 23, 2023
Menh:
Hi Ola, Please I need your advise.

My dream is to get marketing jobs in the Oil and Gas industry.

I'm currently running my MBA Marketing, and I posses BSc. International Studies.

I'm a Member of the Nigerian Institute of Management Chartered and planning to take my Certification from the National Institute of Marketing Nigeria next year.

Also, I posses Health Safety & Environmental Management certifications from the British International Safety Organisation.

Diploma in French Language from the Ministry of Education - France.

What other qualifications do I require to enable me secure a job Marketing job in the Oil and Gas industry?

Thanks

To be honest I do not know. Please go to the IT sector. All the best

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