Anyone can do this!!

Put the number of the Quranic Surah (Chapter) on the first column on a spreadsheet

The number of Ayah(verses) for each Surah on the second Column

Sum the surah (Chapter) and the ayah (Verses) number

Split into Odd and even numbers

The sum of the Odd numbers = Sum of Surah Number
Sum of the Even Numbers = Sum of the ayah

If one number is distorted the balance is destroyed.

SubhanAllah

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tbaba1234, what did you take this morning?

maclatunji: tbaba1234, what did you take this morning?

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maclatunji: tbaba1234, what did you take this morning?

I had some cereal just now it is just 5,30 am here

tbaba1234:

I had some cereal just now it is just 5,30 am here

No wonder!

Coincidence ke? This is what i call one of the sophistication in which are inherent in the Qur'an which makes it impossible to replicate not only that, it also shows that it cant be written by an illiterate with such mathematical accuracy. reminds me of sheikh deedat's booklet on the miracle of No. 19(or something like that)...Subhanallah!

^ this can't even be reproduced by a literate man in the 7th century, What is the probability of achieving such accuracy for 114 chapters? what other combination of ayahs will give you this? The ayahs were not numbered during the time of the prophet, there was just an indication used to separate them.

We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? (Surah 41:53)

Indeed Allah saya the truth...most of those denying the divine source of the Qur'an know deep down the impossibility of what they claim to be its source but do so just to deceive themselves and not accept the truth.

Shows how wise people deceive the sheep.


This is a basic maths trick. Notice that the number of chapters is 114 (even- divisible by 2). Also notice that the total summation of the Ayah is 6236 (another even number)- this means that the Ayah has an "even" number of odd and even numbers.


A smart person would realise that all you have done is take two even summations and divided each of them into two making four equal summations.


It helps that the arithmetic progression of chapters stops at an even number of 114.

^What you wrote makes absolutely no sense!!

So let us reason together, what maths trick exactly? I just used the Quran chapters;;

So the number of chapters is 114- correct

and the sum of verses is 6236-

Two even summations?? WRONG How did you jump from the above to here? .... You only mentioned one summation 6236::: The other summation is an odd summation 6555 of the chapters....

The fact that it groups into Odd and even numbers perfectly is pretty amazing for anyone with a brain. It is one thing to split a number into two. It is another to split it into 114 parts based solely on the odd and even numbers.

The Quran as a book was not numbered for a long time... separators were used to separate the verses... I am just using what is already there. There are thousands of combinations that wouldn't give you that balance. The Quran uses one that does.

The only one doing tricks here is you, like i said, it is one of those many coincidences...

My assignment for you is simple... take a list 1-100... assign verses to them and do this simple "trick". Tell me how long it takes you.

The example of those who rejects faith is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand. (Surah 2:171)

tbaba1234: ^What you wrote makes absolutely no sense!!

So let us reason together, what maths trick exactly? I just used the Quran chapters;;

So the number of chapters is 114- correct

and the sum of verses is 6236-

Two even summations?? WRONG How did you jump from the above to here? .... You only mentioned one summation 6236::: The other summation is an odd summation 6555 of the chapters....

The fact that it groups into Odd and even numbers perfectly is pretty amazing for anyone with a brain. It is one thing to split a number into two. It is another to split it into 114 parts based solely on the odd and even numbers.

The Quran as a book was not numbered for a long time... separators were used to separate the verses... I am just using what is already there. There are thousands of combinations that wouldn't give you that balance. The Quran uses one that does.

The only one doing tricks here is you, like i said, it is one of those many coincidences...

My assignment for you is simple... take a list 1-100... assign verses to them and do this simple "trick". Tell me how long it takes you.

The example of those who rejects faith is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries - deaf, dumb and blind, so they do not understand. (Surah 2:171)

Clearly what I meant to say was that two even (114 chapters and summation of the ayah 6236) figures divided into four is not a miracle

- 114 is divided into 57 even and 57 odd
- the figures adding up to an even number 6236 are divided into even and odd.

When you get 4 equal summations, it is not a miracle.


You say that the Quran was not a numbered book and the Ayah split into even and odd is a miracle. Did you also add the Satanic verses?

logicboy:
Clearly what I meant to say was that two even (114 chapters and summation of the ayah 6236) figures divided into four is not a miracle

- 114 is divided into 57 even and 57 odd
- the figures adding up to an even number 6236 are divided into even and odd.

When you get 4 equal summations, it is not a miracle.
You say that the Quran was not a numbered book and the Ayah split into even and odd is a miracle. Did you also add the Satanic verses?

You still make no sense: quit trying abeg..... Why do you like exposing yourself like this?

Your assignment: Use 1-100 (50 odd and even number);;;; come up with your combination of verses.... you can use odd and even numbers too.... Achieve the same balance.... If you can't, i will give a concession, use 1-20.... If you fail use 1-10... Tell me how much time it takes.

There are thousands of combinations using 114 chapters and an even sum of ayahs (using even and odd numbers) that would not give you this balance... The Quran uses one that does... That is the point here....

Id be waiting for the result of your experiment.

tbaba1234:

You still make no sense: quit trying abeg..... Why do you like exposing yourself like this?

Your assignment: Use 1-100 (50 odd and even number);;;; come up with your combination of verses.... you can use odd and even numbers too.... Achieve the same balance.... If you can't, i will give a concession, use 1-20.... If you fail use 1-10... Tell me how much time it takes.

There are thousands of combinations using 114 chapters and an even sum of ayahs (using even and odd numbers) that would not give you this balance... The Quran uses one that does... That is the point here....

Id be waiting for the result of your experiment.

I clearly made sense in my previous argument. You chose to ignore it.

Even if we were to go with your reasoning, you still fail;

10,000/1 odds is not a miracle. Calculable probability

1,0000,000 odds is not a miracle. Calculable probability


The odds of winning the national lottery is 13,983,816/1


You fail

^ lol...Read the title again!

You see like i said, It is an amazing coincidence.... I didn't say miracle... It is left for those who can see.... For those who see, they know it is another sign from their lord.. At least, those that are blind can still acknowledge this amazing coincidence...

....For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts. (Surah 22:46)

tbaba1234: ^ lol...Read the title again!

You see like i said, It is an amazing coincidence.... I didn't say miracle... It is left for those who can see.... For those who see, they know it is another sign from their lord.. At least, those that are blind can still acknowledge this amazing coincidence...

....For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts. (Surah 22:46)

It is not an amazing coincidence when you realise that you divided 2 groups of numbers into 2. Getting four equal summations is nothing. This is basic maths and accounting. You take figures from the income statement, trial balance and the statement of cash flows and you get balanced figures in the balance sheet.

So, it is not a miracle? Then what do you mean by this?

For those who see, they know it is another sign from their lord..

A sign from the lord would be supernatural and therefore a miracle itself since the supernatural is not natural

logicboy:

It is not an amazing coincidence when you realise that you divided 2 groups of numbers into 2. Getting four equal summations is nothing. This is basic maths and accounting. You take figures from the income statement, trial balance and the statement of cash flows and you get balanced figures in the balance sheet.

So, it is not a miracle? Then what do you mean by this?



A sign from the lord would be supernatural and therefore a miracle itself since the supernatural is not natural

How would you define the concept "Supernatural"?

maclatunji:

How would you define the concept "Supernatural"?

Spiritual beings like Allah would be supernatural.

^You see how you struggle to define the concept- the only thing guys like you are good for his asking questions that are not-so-smart and arguing till the hereafter.

maclatunji: ^You see how you struggle to define the concept- the only thing guys like you are good for his asking questions that are not-so-smart and arguing till the hereafter.

I defined it in context to the argument. A sign from Allah has to be supernatural if Allah is supernatural. Basic commonsense.

logicboy:

It is not an amazing coincidence when you realise that you divided 2 groups of numbers into 2. Getting four equal summations is nothing. This is basic maths and accounting. You take figures from the income statement, trial balance and the statement of cash flows and you get balanced figures in the balance sheet.

So, it is not a miracle? Then what do you mean by this?



A sign from the lord would be supernatural and therefore a miracle itself since the supernatural is not natural

yeah, its simple 2+2, since you attended a university, studied loads of arithmetic and logic and have the luxury of owning a laptop and an internet access...we talking of a 7th century revelation to an illiterate man which contains a mathematical accuracy which clearly indicates the fact that he cant be the author (oh i remember! the prophet was taught by Pythagoras smh).
did you even look at the calculations?

sino:
yeah, its simple 2+2, since you attended a university, studied loads of arithmetic and logic and have the luxury of owning a laptop and an internet access...we talking of a 7th century revelation to an illiterate man which contains a mathematical accuracy which clearly indicates the fact that he cant be the author (oh i remember! the prophet was taught by Pythagoras smh).
did you even look at the calculations?

some questions for you

-did Muhammad or the authors of the Koran know about this amazing coincidence?
-did you add the Satanic verses to the Ayah?
-wasnt the Koran numbered at a later time?

Its so funny that seeing (ill)logic boy debuking a "coincidence" lol , more funny the stuff is so simple yet till this very sec, he cannot even perform the challenge:

tbaba1234:

You still make no sense: quit trying abeg..... Why do you like exposing yourself like this?

Your assignment: Use 1-100 (50 odd and even number);;;; come up with your combination of verses.... you can use odd and even numbers too.... Achieve the same balance.... If you can't, i will give a concession, use 1-20.... If you fail use 1-10... Tell me how much time it takes.

There are thousands of combinations using 114 chapters and an even sum of ayahs (using even and odd numbers) that would not give you this balance... The Quran uses one that does... That is the point here....

Id be waiting for the result of your experiment.

another simple test again was a major fail:

maclatunji:

How would you define the concept "Supernatural"?

he probably would define atheist as being logicboy lol! this sort of people indeed are best described by:

maclatunji: ^You see how you struggle to define the concept- the only thing guys like you are good for his asking questions that are not-so-smart and arguing till the hereafter.

sino:
yeah, its simple 2+2, since you attended a university, studied loads of arithmetic and logic and have the luxury of owning a laptop and an internet access...we talking of a 7th century revelation to an illiterate man which contains a mathematical accuracy which clearly indicates the fact that he cant be the author (oh i remember! the prophet was taught by Pythagoras smh).
did you even look at the calculations?

was it Pathygoras i taught it was Aristotle or wait Eistein made a time machine that he used in traveling back in time walahi this people have never made sound argument since i started posting on nl smh X 2

vedaxcool: Its so funny that seeing (ill)logic boy debuking a "coincidence" lol , more funny the stuff is so simple yet till this very sec, he cannot even perform the challenge:



another simple test again was a major fail:



he probably would define atheist as being logicboy lol! this sort of people indeed are best described by:



was it Pathygoras i taught it was Aristotle or wait Eistein made a time machine that he used in traveling back in time walahi this people have never made sound argument since i started posting on nl smh X 2

Lol....cheerleading for false miracles and fake attempts to glorify the Quran does not make you look good;

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Poor thing can't even do his assignment!

^ i think he is confused, mixed up some numbers and stuff...how i wish there was a deadline for submission

^

Lol maybe he awaits Einstein to come to his aid, even the god of atheism Dawkins cannot help him in this regard, or Perhaps he trying to evolve a little bit to be able to solve his assignment or achieve the same "coincidence" lol

See these people lying and rejoicing at a false attempt to glorify the Koran.


Religion is pitiful.

3 days later and the atheist has no answer to his assignment, we are waiting oh, don't think u can derail the questions asked over to u "logic"boy!

vedaxcool: 3 days later and the atheist has no answer to his assignment, we are waiting oh, don't think u can derail the questions asked over to u "logic"boy!

Stawman assignment. Only shows how desperate you are after I have debunked your miraculous claim

When would u be honest enough to state the assignment is too difficult for you? You have until wednesday to submit your assignment, why u must submit is simple, you claim it is just simple thing to do, failing well I leave the consequence for later.

vedaxcool: When would u be honest enough to state the assignment is too difficult for you? You have until wednesday to submit your assignment, why u must submit is simple, you claim it is just simple thing to do, failing well I leave the consequence for later.

What are you going to do if I dont do the assignment? Behead me as you shout "ALLAHU AKBAR!!"??

Day 4, passed, NO ANSWER provided by atheistboy to an otherwise "simple thing to do" question! Wednesday is closing in!