Iran preparing to mark anniversary of Imam Khomeini’s passing

TEHRAN - Iran is preparing to mark the 23rd anniversary of the demise of the late Imam Khomeini, the Founder of the Islamic Republic, which occurs on June 3.

Assembly of Experts Chairman Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Mahdavi Kani issued a statement on Wednesday to commemorate the occasion and the anniversary of the 15th of Khordad uprising of 1963.

The demonstrations of June 5 and 6, 1963 in Iran, called the 15th of Khordad uprising, were a protest against the arrest of Imam Khomeini, who was detained after giving a speech in which he vehemently criticized Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Israel, and the United States.

In the statement, Ayatollah Mahdavi Kani said that the Islamic movement initiated by Imam Khomeini altered the global balance of power.

“The Imam’s Islamic movement shook up the equations of power in the world and created a new order in the bipolar world. In this new order, Islam came to prominence as a democratic and religious power on the world stage,” the statement read.

Ayatollah Mahdavi Kani also said, “The realization of the ideals of the Islamic Revolution requires unity revolving around the Imam’s line and obedience to the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution.”


http://tehrantimes.com/politics/98399-iran-preparing-to-mark-anniversary-of-imam-khomeinis-passing

Russian liberal democratic party honors Imam Khomeini

The representatives of the Russian political and cultural elite gathered to honor the memory of Imam Khomeini. The ambassador of Islamic Republic of Iran in Russia visited the round-table named "The Spiritual Heritage of Imam Khomeini."


The Liberal Democratic Party leader, Vladimir Zhirinovsky spoke of the reason to organize this event.

According to the present experts and politicians, Imam Khomeini, was not just an outstanding politician and a philosopher, but an exclusive writer. Russian poet, Lyudmila Avdeeva, who has studied writings of Imam Khomeini, has characterized him as a person of a wide scale.

According to the experts, the reasoning of Imam Khomeini became not simply a dream. He became able to realize ideology into life.

The ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran in Russia, expressed his compliments to the organizer, and praised the role of spiritual leader and politician, who was able to resolve two major question of humanity.

Each milestone in the history of the great country is accompanied by a victory of a great personality.

For Iran, Imam Khomeini was the leader who changed the political and social direction of the country.

In memory, Russia honors this remarkable man.


http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/06/01/244058/russian-liberal-honors-khomeini/

Publish Date : 12/03/1391 - 01:26

Imam Khomeini proves Islam as complete political system: Pakistani Politician

Islamabad, May 31, IRNA – Former Amir Jamat-e-Islami (JI) on Thursday said that late Imam Khomeini had proved to the world that Islam is not only a religion but a complete political system.

Talking to IRNA, Qazi Hussain Ahmad said that Islamic Revolution of Iran is a great achievement of Imam Khomeini.

'Imam Khomeini's guidance revived Islam as a living religion,' said the religious leader.

He is of the view that the teachings of Imam Khomeini will continue to inspire Muslims around the world.

Qazi Hussain Ahmad said that Imam Khomeini taught Muslims to stand on their own feet and come out of the western dominance.

“Imam led the Iranian nation in difficult time,” said the JI leader.

The religious leader noted that Imam Khomeini had united oppressed Muslims against common enemy.

'Imam Khomeini gave a great lesson to the Muslims all over the world,' he said.

“Revolution had dispelled many misconceptions against Islam and depicted the true face of Islam,' Qazi Hussain Ahmad added.

He said that despite conspiracies Islamic Revolution has been flourishing in Iran.

Qazi Hussain Ahmad said that Islam teaches about equality amongst all human beings and that is what exactly Imam Khomeini had taught.

The politician said Islam is the only solution to humanity. He believes that Imam Khomeini’s lofty ideas are still fresh and have a great impact not only on Muslims but on entire humanity.

Expressing his views, Qazi Hussain Ahmad said awakening movement in Muslim world have been by inspired by Islamic Revolution of Iran. He was confident that these movements would meet their logical end.


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Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 80162926

http://www.irna.ir/News/Politic/Imam-Khomeini-proves-Islam-as-complete-political-system,-Politician/80162926

World needs Imam Khomeini's thoughts more than before: Russian mufti

Moscow, May 31, IRNA -- Head of Russia's Council of Muftis Nafiqollah Ashirov said that the Muslim World needs today pursing the thoughts of late Imam Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Republic, more than any time before.

He made the remarks in an exclusive interview with IRNA's correspondent in Moscow on Thursday.

'The most important advice of late Imam Khomeini was unification of Muslims as it has been instructed in the Holy Qur'an. The great founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran always emphasized the unity of Shia and Sunni Muslims,' the Russian Chief Mufti added.

Referring to the fact that the recent wave of Islamic awakening in several Arab countries has been inspired by the thoughts of late Imam Khomeini, Ashirov pointed out that the wave of freedom-seeking has engulfed many Middle East countries which infuriated the enemies of Islam.

'Late Imam Khomeini invited Shia and Sunni to forget their differences and try to unite,' he added.


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Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 80162928


http://www.irna.ir/News/Politic/World-needs-Imam-Khomeini_s-thoughts-more-than-before,-Russian-mufti/80162928

Arab spring inspired by Islamic Revolution led by Imam Khomeini (R.A.): Indian Scholar

New Delhi, May 30, IRNA – An Indian Scholar Wednesday said that the Arab spring has been inspired by the Islamic Revolution of Iran, led by Imam Khomeini (R.A.)

Talking to IRNA, Ms. Qamar Ghaffar, Professor in Jamia Millia Islamia University in New Delhi said: “Imam Khomeini wielded the weapon of love and understanding, and succeeded in upturnuing even the strongest of the martial nations with it. He has left the world (both Muslim and non Muslim) richer with a valuable and enduring ideals”.

“The Islamic Revolution under his dynamic leadership sparked the hope of liberation for the oppressed masses around the globe,” noted Ms Ghaffar.

Focusing on the similarities between the freedom movement of India led by Mahatama Gandhi and Islamic Revolution of Iran led by Imam Khomeini, she said that there is certain degree of similarity between them. Role and contribution of Mahatma Gandhi and Imam Khomeini were based upon non-violence.

Prof Qamar further said that both the exceptional personalities were stern believers of a philosophy and strategy for social change. Their life was a glorious example of their thoughts.

She said that Imam’s message of Muslim unity resonates all over the Muslim world and current Arab spring was a proof of that.

Stressing that Imam’s guidance and the teachings are still needed, Indian Prof urged ummah to follow the path to redeem the lost glory.

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Islamic Republic News Agency/IRNA NewsCode: 1019764

http://www.irna.ir/News/Politic/Arab-spring-inspired-by-Islamic-Revolution-led-by-Imam-Khomeini--R-A--,-Indian-Scholar/80160711

Are you Iranian by any chance?

Do you worship Iran or Allah?

Is this not a Nigerian site? Unless it is OPEC, how can Iran help Nigeria?

logicboy: Are you Iranian by any chance?

Do you worship Iran or Allah?

Is this not a Nigerian site? Unless it is OPEC, how can Iran help Nigeria?

Ayatullah Khomeini is a religious and spiritual figure in Islam.he was also a marja-al-taqlid for Shia Muslims the world over.

LagosShia:

Ayatullah Khomeini is a religious and spiritual figure in Islam.he was also a marja-al-taqlid for Shia Muslims the world over.

Crap. If Muhammad was the last prophet, shouldnt it mean that Khomeneini is just another cleric or leader?

logicboy:


Crap. If Muhammad was the last prophet, shouldnt it mean that Khomeneini is just another cleric or leader?

and so what? the marja-al-taqlid are from all countries and revered by shia all over the world.

LagosShia:

and so what? the marja-al-taqlid are from all countries and revered by shia all over the world.

Wait! Did Shia Islam start in Iran or something?

logicboy:


Wait! Did Shia Islam start in Iran or something?

no.Shia Islam did not originate in Iran.you cannot even say Shia Islam or Islam itself originated from somewhere from an Islamic view.but you as a non-muslim can say Islam spread from arabia.Iran was a majority Sunni country up till the 16th century.the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and the 12 holy Imams (as) from his progeny/Ahlul-Bayt (as)the Shia Muslims base their Islamic faith on are all arabians from Makkah.

in Islam,there is no national barrier.we are all Muslims regardless of political boundaries.

LagosShia:

no.Shia Islam did not originate in Iran.you cannot even say Shia Islam or Islam itself originated from somewhere from an Islamic view.but you as a non-muslim can say Islam spread from arabia.Iran was a majority Sunni country up till the 16th century.the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and the 12 holy Imams (as) from his progeny/Ahlul-Bayt (as)the Shia Muslims base their Islamic faith on are all arabians from Makkah.

in Islam,there is no national barrier.we are all Muslims regardless of political boundaries.

Sorry, I didnt know that!

logicboy:


Sorry, I didnt know that!

there is no problem.ask and you will find answers.

Sheikh Zakzaky delivered a closing speech at Imam Week Programme +PIC



The Leader of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria Sheikh Ibraheem Zakzaky spoke on Imam Khoemeini(QS) at Imam Week closing speech he delivered at Husainiyyah Baqiyyatullah Zaria on Sunday the 3rd of June 2012.He spoke on Imam Revolution which transformed the thinking of both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. He also explained the pre-revolution period in which the world was divided between western capitalist system and communism which are opposing systems running the world. However, with coming of Imam Khomeini(QS), he said, people became awake with regard to religion and they begin to see religion as a complete system capable of leading the world on all aspect of human life, as opposed to former views.


Sheikh Zakzaky noted that Islam has now entered every house of individuals irrespective of their location. Imam’s thinking has now crossed the minds of everyone with positive effect. He reiterated that Imam’s era still reigns because his method of revolution has become a model for all and in every part of the world. Imam has already shown the way for people to emulate, Sheikh explained.

Others who spoke at the occasion are Mallam Nasir Tsafe who spoke on ‘ the contribution of teachers and students in Imam’s Revolution’ , and Mallam Ibrahim Difa.

http://www.islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=381:sheikh-zakzaky-delivered-a-closing-speech-at-imam-week-programme-pic&catid=41:frontpage

Words of "wisdom" from Khomini

"The teachings of the imams are like the teachings of the Qur'an. They do not apply to one particular generation, but rather to everyone in every age and place until the Day of Judgment.''(2)


"All prophets came for the purpose of laying down the foundation of justice in the world, b[b]ut they failed to do so; even Prophet Muhammad,[/b] the last of the Prophets who came to reform mankind and to apply justice failed too. The person who will succeed in all this and in laying down the foundation of justice in the world at all levels, and redressing the wrong is the expected mahdi...."

"So the expected mahdi whom Allah spared as a treasure for mankind will maintain justice throughout the world, and succeed where the Prophet before him failed (!!) The reason why Allah subhanah, has spared the life of the mahdi, peace be on him, i[b]s that there is no one among men who is capable of assuming this great task which neither the prophets[/b] nor the forefathers of the mahdi achieved what they came for...."


"I can not call him leader, because he is greater than that, nor can I call him the first man, because there is no one to succeed him, therefore I can describe him with words other than 'the promised expected mahdi' whom Allah subhanah saved for mankind. So we have to prepare ourselves to behold him (!!) If we are successful, we will be able to raise our heads in pride over all our government departments. We hope that the other countries prepare themselves for the appearance of almahdi, peace be on him, and be ready for his visit.(l

Khomeini asserts, "The birthday of the Mahdi is greater to the Muslims than the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad (may Peace Be Upon Him) ".

"Fatimah al-Zahra lived 75 days after the death of her father, during which she was sad and lonely. Jibreel used to visit and console her, and informed her about all the events which will take place in the future. It appears from this narration that Jibreel during the 75 days used to visit her often, and I do not think that a narration like this related to anyone other than the great prophets. Imam Ali used to write those revelations which were transmitted to her by Jibreel. It is possible though that the affairs of Iran were among the things revealed to her (!) We do not know, but it is quite possible, because imam Ali was the one who wrote down the revelation as he was the scribe of the Messenger (may Peace Be Upon Him) ( na wa o, Jibreel left the Imam to become a mere scribe ) . The descending of Jibreel on a person is not simple or an easy issue, and I do not believe that Jibreel descends on any person; there must be harmony between the spirit of whom Jibreel descends on and Jibreel himself, who is considered to be the 'greatest spirit'. This harmony existed between Jibreel and the first-class Prophets such as the Messenger ((may Peace Be Upon Him)), Eesa, Musa, Ibraheem and the like. Jibreel never descended on any other than these. I could not even find a narration referring to the descending of Jibreel on the imams. Thus this excellent status was enjoyed by none after the Prophets other than Fatimah. It is one of the merits with which Fatimah was distinguished."

In his book 'Kashf al-Asrar', Khomeini asserts, "The charge of tampering with the Book of Allah with which the Muslims indict the Jews and Christians, is only established against the Prophet's companions." He further elaborated in the same book, "I[b]t was easy for them (the Prophet's companions) to delete verses from the Qur'an, subject the Divine Scripture to alteration, and hide it away from people[/b]

^

please provide references for your quotations.i want to read those quotes by myself.

i am asking for this because while many things quoted are agreeable,telling us that the borthday of Imam Mahdi (ajtfs) is greater than that of the Prophet (sa) is not.and therefore it is clear that Ayatollah Khomeini could not have made those statements.

i am confidently saying this because the christian missionaries have gone a step more than the wahhabis in forging.the christian missionaries have provided fabrications that Ayatollah Khomeini permits bestiality.there is a thread in nairaland where that was proven:

https://www.nairaland.com/845092/how-islam-improves-christianity/1#9988092

vedaxcool: Words of "wisdom" from Khomini

"The teachings of the imams are like the teachings of the Qur'an. They do not apply to one particular generation, but rather to everyone in every age and place until the Day of Judgment.''(2)

nothing wrong with this statement.the 12 holy Imams from the Ahlul-Bayt (as) propagate the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) which is based on the Holy Quran.

the sunnis believe that Muslims should follow the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and the "rightly guided caliphs".the "rightly guided caliphs" to the Shia are non other than those Allah have chosen and purified (verse 33:33).

"All prophets came for the purpose of laying down the foundation of justice in the world, b[b]ut they failed to do so; even Prophet Muhammad,[/b] the last of the Prophets who came to reform mankind and to apply justice failed too. The person who will succeed in all this and in laying down the foundation of justice in the world at all levels, and redressing the wrong is the expected mahdi...."

"So the expected mahdi whom Allah spared as a treasure for mankind will maintain justice throughout the world, and succeed where the Prophet before him failed (!!) The reason why Allah subhanah, has spared the life of the mahdi, peace be on him, i[b]s that there is no one among men who is capable of assuming this great task which neither the prophets[/b] nor the forefathers of the mahdi achieved what they came for...."

Imam Mahdi (as) will have a successfully and universal revolution not limited to one area of the world.however,i am sure that there is tampering with the words of Ayatollah Khomeini if he made that remark.in the first place,the Prophet Muhammad (sa) did not come to make a universal revolution under one government as Imam Mahdi (as) would do.the Prophet Muhammad (s) came to entrench the foundations of Islam and he successfully did.

"I can not call him leader, because he is greater than that, nor can I call him the first man, because there is no one to succeed him, therefore I can describe him with words other than 'the promised expected mahdi' whom Allah subhanah saved for mankind. So we have to prepare ourselves to behold him (!!) If we are successful, we will be able to raise our heads in pride over all our government departments. We hope that the other countries prepare themselves for the appearance of almahdi, peace be on him, and be ready for his visit.(l

insha'Allah!

Khomeini asserts, "The birthday of the Mahdi is greater to the Muslims than the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad (may Peace Be Upon Him) ".

i'd like to see evidence.

"Fatimah al-Zahra lived 75 days after the death of her father, during which she was sad and lonely. Jibreel used to visit and console her, and informed her about all the events which will take place in the future. It appears from this narration that Jibreel during the 75 days used to visit her often, and I do not think that a narration like this related to anyone other than the great prophets. Imam Ali used to write those revelations which were transmitted to her by Jibreel. It is possible though that the affairs of Iran were among the things revealed to her (!) We do not know, but it is quite possible, because imam Ali was the one who wrote down the revelation as he was the scribe of the Messenger (may Peace Be Upon Him) ( na wa o, Jibreel left the Imam to become a mere scribe ) . The descending of Jibreel on a person is not simple or an easy issue, and I do not believe that Jibreel descends on any person; there must be harmony between the spirit of whom Jibreel descends on and Jibreel himself, who is considered to be the 'greatest spirit'. This harmony existed between Jibreel and the first-class Prophets such as the Messenger ((may Peace Be Upon Him)), Eesa, Musa, Ibraheem and the like. Jibreel never descended on any other than these. I could not even find a narration referring to the descending of Jibreel on the imams. Thus this excellent status was enjoyed by none after the Prophets other than Fatimah. It is one of the merits with which Fatimah was distinguished."

it is not impossible to believe,Mariam,mother of Jesus (as) saw angels and received Allah's words.if the best lady of creation,Fatima (as),see an angel to comfort her and give her words of peace,nothing is wrong with that or in conflict with Islamic principles.based on Hadith al-Kisa,the five members of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) all of them saw Jibreel.

and lest the hypocritical sunni loses his mind,i should remind him that according to a sunni hadith,Jibreel (as) appeared to some companions to "teach to them their religion".so Jibreel can appear to the sahaba,especially the tyrannical ones among them that sunnis like to exalt.why then is it impossible for Jibreel (as) to appear to Fatima (as),whom the Prophet Muhammad (sa) described as "a part of him"?

In his book 'Kashf al-Asrar', Khomeini asserts, "The charge of tampering with the Book of Allah with which the Muslims indict the Jews and Christians, is only established against the Prophet's companions." He further elaborated in the same book, "I[b]t was easy for them (the Prophet's companions) to delete verses from the Qur'an, subject the Divine Scripture to alteration, and hide it away from people[/b]

firstly,i would like to see evidence.in what page did he made that assertion?

tampering with the book of Allah (swt) by some of the companions is not something strange.

we have read of a hadith in sunni books where Aisha narrates that a goat chew a verse known as the verse of stonning and that got lost!

we also have read Abu Bakr giving a false testimony that prophets do not leave inheritance because he wanted to steal Fadak from Lady Fatima (as).

inspite of all that,the Quran is still pure,unchanged and preserved as it was revealed due to the barakah (blessings) of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and particularly the presence of the 12 holy Imams (as).

LagosShia:
i should remind him that according to a sunni hadith,Jibreel (as) appeared to some companions to "teach to them their religion".so Jibreel can appear to the sahaba,especially the tyrannical ones among them that sunnis like to exalt.why then is it impossible for Jibreel (as) to appear to Fatima (as),whom the Prophet Muhammad (sa) described as "a part of him"?

This is a misrepresentation of the Hadeeth. Jubril came
1. While the Prophet (PBUH) was still alive and in the company of the companions
2. jibreel spoke with the Prophet, and not even the companions

Summary
Also on the Authority of `Umar , who said:
"One day while we were sitting with the Messenger of Allah there appeared before us a man whose clothes were exceedingly white and whose hair was exceedingly black; no signs of journey were to be seen on him and none of us knew him. He walked up and sat down by the Prophet .

Resting his hands against his and placing the palms of his hands on his thighs he said: O Muhammad, tell me about Islaam. The Messenger of Allah said: Islaam is to testify that there is no deity worthy of worship but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to perform prayers, to make zakaah, to fast in Ramadaan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you were able to do so."
..........
"Then he took himself off and I stayed for a time. The he said: O `Umar, do you know who the questioner was? I said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He said: It was Gabriel, who came to teach you your religion."
Muslim

Revelations and interactions stopped with the death of the Prophet (PBUH). Anyone claiming to get some revelations or seeing angels after the Prophet's demise lies.
So Fatima (RAH) could not have said that. But Shias have their own creed of course

logicboy:


Sorry, I didnt know that!

Salaam, brother
It is praiseworthy to seek knowledge
But be careful, the Shias will encourage you to abuse the 3 caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman RAA)
They accuse Aisha (RAA), mother of the believers of adultery
Please watch out for such misguidance
May Allah grant us knowledge and keep us firm on the right path

BetaThings:
Salaam, brother

subhanallah! he is sending salam to his "brother"!!!

It is praiseworthy to seek knowledge
But be careful, the Shias will encourage you to abuse the 3 caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman RAA)

abuse? we do not waste our time to abuse anyone.that is not our morals.

we only send la'nat on them as they deserve for their tyranny.

They accuse Aisha (RAA), mother of the believers of adultery

may Allah (swt) punish you severely for the lie you are spreading like your dumb "scholars".

we do not accuse Aisha of adultery because the Quran vindicated her of that charge against her.we dislike her for disobeying the Prophet (sa),killing muslims in battle,and hating Imam Ali (as) and his children

Please watch out for such misguidance
May Allah grant us knowledge and keep us firm on the right path

Allah (swt) does not grant wahhabis knowledge because they have sealed their hearts.wahhabis have the fire awaiting them for the terrorism they spread and the beheadings they carry out against anyone who does not share their filthy sectarian beliefs based on slaughter.

BetaThings:
This is a misrepresentation of the Hadeeth. Jubril came
1. While the Prophet (PBUH) was still alive and in the company of the companions
2. jibreel spoke with the Prophet, and not even the companions

Summary
Also on the Authority of `Umar , who said:
"One day while we were sitting with the Messenger of Allah there appeared before us a man whose clothes were exceedingly white and whose hair was exceedingly black; no signs of journey were to be seen on him and none of us knew him. He walked up and sat down by the Prophet .

Resting his hands against his and placing the palms of his hands on his thighs he said: O Muhammad, tell me about Islaam. The Messenger of Allah said: Islaam is to testify that there is no deity worthy of worship but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to perform prayers, to make zakaah, to fast in Ramadaan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you were able to do so."
..........
"Then he took himself off and I stayed for a time. The he said: O `Umar, do you know who the questioner was? I said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He said: It was Gabriel, who came to teach you your religion."
Muslim

Revelations and interactions stopped with the death of the Prophet (PBUH). Anyone claiming to get some revelations or seeing angels after the Prophet's demise lies.
So Fatima (RAH) could not have said that. But Shias have their own creed of course

the bottom line is those your beloved companions like the tyrannical umar are believed to have seen Jibreel (as) according to Sunni hadith.that is the bottom line.

and for your information,Sayyida Fatima (as) and that tyrant are not on the same level spiritually,morally and genealogically.do not even try to compare.

LagosShia:
nothing wrong with this statement.the 12 holy Imams from the Ahlul-Bayt (as) propagate the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) which is based on the Holy Quran.

the sunnis believe that Muslims should follow the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and the "rightly guided caliphs".the "rightly guided caliphs" to the Shia are non other than those Allah have chosen and purified (verse 33:33).

his statement constitutes disbelief in many respects:
He puts the words of Allah the Exalted and those of man on an equal basis. The words of Allah cannot be equaled. They are contained in the Book to which falsehood cannot be added, and from which nothing can be removed. But the words of the others and their teachings are subject to alteration, slips and errors.

The significant point here is that those imams were not infallible in all of their sayings and deeds, nor were their teachings equal to those of the Qur'an, as Khomeini claims. They were like the rest of the believers and the pious slaves of Allah, except that which conforms with the Book of Allah from their teachings is accepted, and that which does not is discarded, particularly works compiled by the liars published under the names of the imam promoting falsehood and blasphemy amongst people.

LagosShia:
Imam Mahdi (as) will have a successfully and universal revolution not limited to one area of the world.however,i am sure that there is tampering with the words of Ayatollah Khomeini if he made that remark.in the first place,the Prophet Muhammad (sa) did not come to make a universal revolution under one government as Imam Mahdi (as) would do.the Prophet Muhammad (s) came to entrench the foundations of Islam and he successfully did.

Really, all this gloating does not change qhat he said, he claims that Anabi Muhammad pbuh is a failure, that is the claim, this he said in Ittihad wa-yak-jihati:15, we wonder what sort of muslim call the Prophet failure? who in his right senses that call himself Muslim would defend such low life, well the shias are the ones who will call on ali for help instead of Allah, . . .

LagosShia:
insha'Allah!

Really Khomini must be unusually dumb to have even thought of referring the medhi ( whom is suppose to guiding mankind but hiding according to shia) the first man

LagosShia:
i'd like to see evidence.

An excerpt from a speech delivered by Khomeini on the 15 of Shaaban

LagosShia:
it is not impossible to believe,Mariam,mother of Jesus (as) saw angels and received Allah's words.if the best lady of creation,Fatima (as),see an angel to comfort her and give her words of peace,nothing is wrong with that or in conflict with Islamic principles.based on Hadith al-Kisa,the five members of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) all of them saw Jibreel.

and lest the hypocritical sunni loses his mind,i should remind him that according to a sunni hadith,Jibreel (as) appeared to some companions to "teach to them their religion".so Jibreel can appear to the sahaba,especially the tyrannical ones among them that sunnis like to exalt.why then is it impossible for Jibreel (as) to appear to Fatima (as),whom the Prophet Muhammad (sa) described as "a part of him"?

Deep ignorance is a disgrace, so to you revelation continued after the prophet's death why would jibreel , and with the strange unreasonable beliefs of the shias, Jibreel ignored the Ali the allege Iman and went to Fatima making him a mere scribe ( a bad one at that since most of what he scribbled never get to the people), the simple question remains what sort of reasoning produces this thoughts welll you guess is as good as mine.

LagosShia:
firstly,i would like to see evidence.in what page did he made that assertion?

tampering with the book of Allah (swt) by some of the companions is not something strange.

we have read of a hadith in sunni books where Aisha narrates that a goat chew a verse known as the verse of stonning and that got lost!

we also have read Abu Bakr giving a false testimony that prophets do not leave inheritance because he wanted to steal Fadak from Lady Fatima (as).

inspite of all that,the Quran is still pure,unchanged and preserved as it was revealed due to the barakah (blessings) of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and particularly the presence of the 12 holy Imams (as).

Only a shia can make two contradictory claims at the same time and believe sense is written in such reasoning, 107, 108. through to 116

vedaxcool:
his statement constitutes disbelief in many respects:
He puts the words of Allah the Exalted and those of man on an equal basis. The words of Allah cannot be equaled. They are contained in the Book to which falsehood cannot be added, and from which nothing can be removed. But the words of the others and their teachings are subject to alteration, slips and errors.


The significant point here is that those imams were not infallible in all of their sayings and deeds, nor were their teachings equal to those of the Qur'an, as Khomeini claims. They were like the rest of the believers and the pious slaves of Allah, except that which conforms with the Book of Allah from their teachings is accepted, and that which does not is discarded, particularly works compiled by the liars published under the names of the imam promoting falsehood and blasphemy amongst people.

that is to you.you cannot judge others by your own standard.we already know you are Sunni and you do not believe in divine imamate or the 12 holy Imams (as) from the Ahlul-Bayt (as).that is all fine.when you are judging the words of Ayatollah Khomeini you have to keep in mind that Ayatollah Khomeini is Shia and not Sunni.

in the Holy Quran,in Surah an-Najm,we are told that the Prophet (sa) does not speak of his own desires but whatever he speaks is revelation.we are also told my Sunnis that the Prophet Muhammad (sa) said we should accept the sunnah of the "rightly guided caliphs".if the "rightly guided caliphs" were teaching a sunnah of error and something that contradicts the Quran,the Prophet (sa) would not have asked us to follow their sunnah.now the Sunnis take anything abu bakr,Umar and Usthman give them because to them those are the "rightly guided caliphs".to the Shia,the rightly guided caliphs are the 12 holy Imams (as).we do not hide our beliefs in abiding by the command of the Prophet (sa) to follow their sunnah.therefore we believe whatever those 12 Imams (as) give us is definitely in accordance with the Quran and the sunnah of the Prophet (sa) and they are infallible as Allah has purified them (Quran 33:33) and guide them.they will not speak out of desires likewise.for the Prophet (sa) to tell us to abide by someone's sunnah as we abide by him,that someone must be just like him.in the Quran too we read the "verse of wilayah" and the "verse of ulil amr".we therefore conclude that following these 12 Imams (as) is command from Allah (swt) because they do not go astray or contradict the Quran.

again,these are Shia beliefs.for you to judge a Shia abiding by his beliefs with Sunni standard is wrong.i cannot use Shia beliefs to judge the words of a Sunni or even the way a christian is praying for instance.

Really, all this gloating does not change qhat he said, he claims that Anabi Muhammad pbuh is a failure, that is the claim, this he said in Ittihad wa-yak-jihati:15, we wonder what sort of muslim call the Prophet failure? who in his right senses that call himself Muslim would defend such low life, well the shias are the ones who will call on ali for help instead of Allah, . . .

again,i definitely know that is either an outright lie or a mistranslation.please do not quote an article written by wahhabis without reading the book they are referring to.i want to see a link of the book written by Ayatollah Khomeini,the page number and what he said exactly.

Really Khomini must be unusually dumb to have even thought of referring the medhi ( whom is suppose to guiding mankind but hiding according to shia) the first man

i am sure you are insulting him for no other reason than sectarian hated and jealousy.for as long as this earth is and Islam exists,the light of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is what would shine forth.

the contribution Ayatollah Khomeini did for Muslims,you can never reach that level.he did not do anything wrong to you and you are insulting him.is this the Islam you claim?

i notice something about wahhabis and their sympathizers-when they cannot bear the truth or make sense they either insult or they divert into different topics.and if they are physically close,they behead you!!!

now really,what is the point in poking your nose into a thread that didn't have anything to do with wahhabis? it is just hatred you are displaying and it will consume you.

An excerpt from a speech delivered by Khomeini on the 15 of Shaaban

that is what they told you in the website where you copied their propaganda.show us the book.post a link of the book,and the page number and reference.

at least,even if you do not give me a link,post the name of the number written by Ayatollah Khomeini,the page number and what he said.i will search for it.or tell me the occasion on which he delivered his speech or lecture,where and what he said.there are many videos on youtube i can search and everywhere online.

Deep ignorance is a disgrace, so to you revelation continued after the prophet's death why would jibreel , and with the strange unreasonable beliefs of the shias, Jibreel ignored the Ali the allege Iman and went to Fatima making him a mere scribe ( a bad one at that since most of what he scribbled never get to the people), the simple question remains what sort of reasoning produces this thoughts welll you guess is as good as mine.

you are very narrow-minded.if it was perhaps Umar that is reported to have seen an angel,or as reported in Sunni books,shaitan runs away from Umar (while the same shaitan is reported in Sunni books to have tempted the Prophet s.a.),you would see nothing wrong with that.

when Jibreel (as) appeared to Lady Fatima (as) he did not bring any revealed book.what he spoke to her was a message for her to console her.

also,with the death of the Prophet Muhammad (sa),the Quranic revelation ceased.but what happens when Imam Mahdi (as) and Prophet Isa (as) return? won't angels appear unto them,deliver messages to them and guide and protect? or would they be acting on their own? the point i am trying to make is that even though the Quranic revelation ceased with the death of the Prophet Muhammad (sa),there is nothing wrong if Allah (swt) permit angels to appear to those pure and chosen ones,someone like Sayyida Fatima (as) who Allah (swt) describes as someone He purified and keeps every blemish away from (see Quran 33:33).

Only a shia can make two contradictory claims at the same time and believe sense is written in such reasoning, 107, 108. through to 116

i am here to teach you and all the Sunnis in Nigeria or at least those who are blind to believe they are Sunnis.i am not here to argue with you.you like arguing.i want to teach you and your likes.you people dont know anything.

LagosShia:

subhanallah! he is sending salam to his "brother"!!!

Actions are governed by intentions. Saying salaam to someone in error in the Islam section is nothing
compared to your openly embracing and encouraging people who mock the Allah (SWT) and Prophet (PBUH)

LagosShia:
abuse? we do not waste our time to abuse anyone.that is not our morals.

we only send la'nat on them as they deserve for their tyranny.

So you don't abuse? You only lie about them, right? Hahaha. Shias!!!

LagosShia:
you are a blind fanatic boiling with religion fervor uncontrolled and without thinking.

And Tyranny is defined as opposing the murderous and divisive agenda of the Shias
Especially when it is clearer by the day that Shias are all about politics and not about ibadaat

LagosShia:
may Allah (swt) punish you severely for the lie you are spreading like your dumb "scholars".

we do not accuse Aisha of adultery because the Quran vindicated her of that charge against her.we dislike her for disobeying the Prophet (sa),killing muslims in battle,and hating Imam Ali (as) and his children

This your curse is simply laughable because it is baseless
Go and check the sayings of some Shias. Would you curse those shias too?
Some of you do accuse her of adultery. In any case, you have decided to accuse of so many wrongs and have passed judgment on her that she is destined for hellfire. I know that Shias usually don't wait till judgement day - they have already held their own sessions and decided several cases

LagosShia:
Allah (swt) does not grant wahhabis knowledge because they have sealed their hearts.wahhabis have the fire awaiting them for the terrorism they spread and the beheadings they carry out against anyone who does not share their filthy sectarian beliefs based on slaughter.

I see, you are the only knowledgebale ones
Anyway, stop worshipping and praying to the dead. They cannot avail you anything. That is knowledge
And stop citing the name of Ali (RA) when you want to appeal to people on a matter. Is Allah (SWT) not good enough for you? or won't you guys listen if the Prophet of Allah (PBUH) is mentioned in that context?

As for filth, what do you call the Shia serial prostitution of Mut'a
Marrying someone for 3 months for instance is what?
And same lady can do it again. Even the unbelievers can see something is wrong with that

LagosShia:

i am here to teach you and all the Sunnis in Nigeria or at least those who are blind to believe they are Sunnis.i am not here to argue with you.you like arguing.i want to teach you and your likes.you people dont know anything.

See Hubris
Teach us bid'ah and shrik!

vedaxcool: Words of "wisdom" from Khomini

"The teachings of the imams are like the teachings of the Qur'an. They do not apply to one particular generation, but rather to everyone in every age and place until the Day of Judgment.''(2)

LagosShia:
nothing wrong with this statement.the 12 holy Imams from the Ahlul-Bayt (as) propagate the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) which is based on the Holy Quran.

the sunnis believe that Muslims should follow the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and the "rightly guided caliphs".the "rightly guided caliphs" to the Shia are non other than those Allah have chosen and purified (verse 33:33).

1. To say that nothing is wrong with that statement is to equate these people with Allah. That is shirk. No doubt about it.
2. If we are to accept the argument that the imams propagate the sunnah, we might as well say that the words of everyone who has come to propagate the sunnah is like the Qur'an. And LagosShia himself claims to be propagating sunnah. So that would also apply to him
When a sect takes the teachings of ordinary human beings as being like the Qur'an, it is clear that there is a fundamental error in their aqeeda. Of course,we have always known that anyway about the Shias

Imam Maliki said we can accept and reject from anyone, except the Prophet (PBUH). So the sunnis do not say that the rightly guided caliphs were not infallible

LagosShia:

that is to you.you cannot judge others by your own standard.we already know you are Sunni and you do not believe in divine imamate or the 12 holy Imams (as) from the Ahlul-Bayt (as).that is all fine.when you are judging the words of Ayatollah Khomeini you have to keep in mind that Ayatollah Khomeini is Shia and not Sunni.

in the Holy Quran,in Surah an-Najm,we are told that the Prophet (sa) does not speak of his own desires but whatever he speaks is revelation.we are also told my Sunnis that the Prophet Muhammad (sa) said we should accept the sunnah of the "rightly guided caliphs".if the "rightly guided caliphs" were teaching a sunnah of error and something that contradicts the Quran,the Prophet (sa) would not have asked us to follow their sunnah.now the Sunnis take anything abu bakr,Umar and Usthman give them because to them those are the "rightly guided caliphs".to the Shia,the rightly guided caliphs are the 12 holy Imams (as).we do not hide our beliefs in abiding by the command of the Prophet (sa) to follow their sunnah.therefore we believe whatever those 12 Imams (as) give us is definitely in accordance with the Quran and the sunnah of the Prophet (sa) and they are infallible as Allah has purified them (Quran 33:33) and guide them.they will not speak out of desires likewise.for the Prophet (sa) to tell us to abide by someone's sunnah as we abide by him,that someone must be just like him.in the Quran too we read the "verse of wilayah" and the "verse of ulil amr".we therefore conclude that following these 12 Imams (as) is command from Allah (swt) because they do not go astray or contradict the Quran.

again,these are Shia beliefs.for you to judge a Shia abiding by his beliefs with Sunni standard is wrong.i cannot use Shia beliefs to judge the words of a Sunni or even the way a christian is praying for instance.

Ignorance must be highly correlated with being a shia, first Sunnis do not equate the the words of the Prophets or caliph or anyone for that matter with the techings or words of the Qur'an, secondly even during the riegn of the four claiphs, in some cases their ruling was overuled by the their successors who Umar revoke previous rulings of Abubakar, so the ignoramus called khomini was only being the polytheist taht we know him to be, I judge shia deviations with teachings of Islam.

LagosShia:
again,i definitely know that is either an outright lie or a mistranslation.please do not quote an article written by wahhabis without reading the book they are referring to.i want to see a link of the book written by Ayatollah Khomeini,the page number and what he said exactly.

maybe you overlooked this Ittihad wa-yak-jihati:15, but we know playing dumb is best defense i would do if i were you.

LagosShia:
i am sure you are insulting him for no other reason than sectarian hated and jealousy.for as long as this earth is and Islam exists,the light of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is what would shine forth.

the contribution Ayatollah Khomeini did for Muslims,you can never reach that level.he did not do anything wrong to you and you are insulting him.is this the Islam you claim?

i notice something about wahhabis and their sympathizers-when they cannot bear the truth or make sense they either insult or they divert into different topics.and if they are physically close,they behead you!!!

now really,what is the point in poking your nose into a thread that didn't have anything to do with wahhabis? it is just hatred you are displaying and it will consume you.

He made a statement that is barely distinguishable from the rants of an insane mind, how does some start saying I cannot call him the first man, what sense does he live by, Khomini contribution to Muslims is polytheism, and his level is far beneath even a hadicapped muslim who sits in one place and calls Allah and says yaa Allah, and don't insult the prophets nor his companions, we too do lanat, we send our lanat on the shameless insulter of the Prophet, Islam, and the Qur'an, u are not the only one who is into the lanamt business lol the only hater i know in the Islam section is the man that calls children murdered by ali worshipers wahabis, we usually laugh at the paganism you mistayke for Islam! light of Ahlul bayt, the nasibi must not know his right from his left

LagosShia:
that is what they told you in the website where you copied their propaganda.show us the book.post a link of the book,and the page number and reference.

at least,even if you do not give me a link,post the name of the number written by Ayatollah Khomeini,the page number and what he said.i will search for it.or tell me the occasion on which he delivered his speech or lecture,where and what he said.there are many videos on youtube i can search and everywhere online.

I gave you date and the year, take it or leave it, the liar that you are is well acknowledged by all!

LagosShia:
you are very narrow-minded.if it was perhaps Umar that is reported to have seen an angel,or as reported in Sunni books,shaitan runs away from Umar (while the same shaitan is reported in Sunni books to have tempted the Prophet s.a.),you would see nothing wrong with that.

when Jibreel (as) appeared to Lady Fatima (as) he did not bring any revealed book.what he spoke to her was a message for her to console her.

also,with the death of the Prophet Muhammad (sa),the Quranic revelation ceased.but what happens when Imam Mahdi (as) and Prophet Isa (as) return? won't angels appear unto them,deliver messages to them and guide and protect? or would they be acting on their own? the point i am trying to make is that even though the Quranic revelation ceased with the death of the Prophet Muhammad (sa),there is nothing wrong if Allah (swt) permit angels to appear to those pure and chosen ones,someone like Sayyida Fatima (as) who Allah (swt) describes as someone He purified and keeps every blemish away from (see Quran 33:33).

when you are done worshipping khmonini and his gang of liars, read his statement and see where he said; revealed to her future events, that in itself is revelation, which instead of revealing to Ali the supposed Imam it went to his wife, reducing him to a mere scribe do the shia ever reason? what a pity.

LagosShia:
i am here to teach you and all the Sunnis in Nigeria or at least those who are blind to believe they are Sunnis.i am not here to argue with you.you like arguing.i want to teach you and your likes.you people dont know anything.

Now muslim bear witness that:

- khomini claimed your Qur'an the glorious book of Allah was changed and Lagosshia wants to teach u that
- Verses within the Qur'an were deleted and Lagosshia sees nothing wrong with such statement and insist we are blind

I was not hear to argue with you, the liar in you find misgivings with khomini statement, and started expalining it which off course i showed that it is nothing more that cassava lies indeed. Imagine Frosbel (in this case khomini) claiming that the Qur'an is changed, and the best response lagosshia brings is i a here to teach all sunni, that is what the case is, Shia is an argument against Islam, and devil deception where ignoramuses worship Ali ( who couldn't help himself from the khariwajies (shias who rebelled against him) ), they call upon him just like the Christians call upon Jesus
what moral authority do this polytheist have to challenge another group of polytheists? the same shias would think they have something to offer yet polytheism and grave worship is what they do! may Allah reward AbdulWahab for levelling on the monuments that muslims began building on grave especially for inspiring others to act on the shameless grave worshipers! amin

BetaThings:

Actions are governed by intentions. Saying salaam to someone in error in the Islam section is nothing
compared to your openly embracing and encouraging people who mock the Allah (SWT) and Prophet (PBUH)

but calling him an atheist a "brother" embracing him against a Muslim because that Muslim is Shia is called what? there is no issue about saying salam to anyone.

please point out how i have "openly embraced" and "encouraged" people to "mock Allah and the Prophet (sa).

bring forth your evidence of that.

So you don't abuse? You only lie about them, right? Hahaha. Shias!!!

you mean like the following "lies",right?:

-Saqifa Banu Saeda and the coup d'etat when Abu Bakr snatched power.
-Abu Bakr illegally and un-islamically confiscating the land of Fadak and giving false testimony.
-Hadith of Pen and Paper and Umar Insulting the Prophet (sa)
-Umar Fleeing from the Battle of Uhud
-Umar Questioning the truthfulness of Muhammad (as) at Hudaibiyyah
-Abu Bakr and Umar Refusing to join the army of Usama Ibn Zaid and Questioning the Prophet's (sa) command
-Attack on the House of the Prophet Muhammad's (sa) daughter (as)by Umar.
-Battle of Jamal
-Battle of Siffin
-Battle of Karbala and the beheading of Imam Hussain (as),the beloved grandson of Prophet Muhammad (sa).
-Scheming Against The Prophet's (as) Command
-Institutionalizing The Cursing of Imam Ali (as) on Pulpits of Mosques for 40 years by Muawiya.
-Usthman Banishing Abu Dhar (ra),a just,righteous,faithful and obedient companion of the Prophet (sa).
-Usthman Flogging Ammar Ibn Yassir (ra),a just,righteous,faithful and obedient companion of the Prophet (sa).
-Muawiya Killing Hujr Ibn Adi (ra),a just,righteous,faithful and obedient companion of the Prophet (sa).
-Muawiya's group Killing Ammar Ibn Yassir (ra).

keep opening your mouths.the more you do,the more the Muslims and your fellow Sunnis in particular get to know the truth and will ask more questions.

And Tyranny is defined as opposing the murderous and divisive agenda of the Shias
Especially when it is clearer by the day that Shias are all about politics and not about ibadaat

when has a Shia ever stopped you from offering salat? LOL

do you offer half the salat and supplications the average Shia offers? do you love Allah (swt),His Prophet (sa) and the Ahlul-Bayt (as),and the just,obedient and righteous companions (sahaba) more than the Shia?

This your curse is simply laughable because it is baseless
Go and check the sayings of some Shias. Would you curse those shias too?
Some of you do accuse her of adultery. In any case, you have decided to accuse of so many wrongs and have passed judgment on her that she is destined for hellfire. I know that Shias usually don't wait till judgement day - they have already held their own sessions and decided several cases

so,it is now "some of us" that still accuse her.if that it truly the case,then that is ignorance.non of our scholars (marja-at-taliq) accuse her of adultery.those are the men who represent the Shia.

and by the way,how many wahhabi mosques have Shia suicide bombers targeted as to the many Shia places of worship that wahhabi suicide bombers have targeted? now we know who is perform shirk (polytheism).it is those who judge others,do takfir and kill others because they are "heretics" and "kuffar" and "mushrik".it is wahhabis who are not waiting for Allah (swt) to judge.

I see, you are the only knowledgebale ones
Anyway, stop worshipping and praying to the dead. They cannot avail you anything. That is knowledge
And stop citing the name of Ali (RA) when you want to appeal to people on a matter. Is Allah (SWT) not good enough for you? or won't you guys listen if the Prophet of Allah (PBUH) is mentioned in that context?

Tawassul is a Quranic injunction.read about it.only to wahhabis it is shirk.even mainstream Sunnis do not buy that:

https://www.nairaland.com/863512/hilary-clinton-confesses-we-funded#10140817

As for filth, what do you call the Shia serial prostitution of Mut'a
Marrying someone for 3 months for instance is what?
And same lady can do it again. Even the unbelievers can see something is wrong with that

Mut'ah is also in the Quran.read about the verse of mut'ah.

even if i am to agree for argument sake that mut'ah is this and that and it was later stopped or prohibited,why call it pro$titution when even Sunnis admit that mut'ah was permitted by the Prophet (sa)? so do you now see who is insulting Allah (swt),the Quran and the Prophet (sa)? and then you falsely accuse me of doing that and try to bring me to your level of ignorance?

the unbelievers if you mean christians should see nothing wrong with it because even their bible supports it!

read more and learn everything about mut'ah marriage in Islam and also evidence from the Holy Quran and bible:

http://mutah.com/

BetaThings:
1. To say that nothing is wrong with that statement is to equate these people with Allah. That is shirk. No doubt about it.
2. If we are to accept the argument that the imams propagate the sunnah, we might as well say that the words of everyone who has come to propagate the sunnah is like the Qur'an. And LagosShia himself claims to be propagating sunnah. So that would also apply to him
When a sect takes the teachings of ordinary human beings as being like the Qur'an, it is clear that there is a fundamental error in their aqeeda. Of course,we have always known that anyway about the Shias

Imam Maliki said we can accept and reject from anyone, except the Prophet (PBUH). So the sunnis do not say that the rightly guided caliphs were not infallible

the 12 holy Imams (as) from the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and the progeny of Prophet Muhammad (sa) do not only "propagate" the sunnah as me and you.they teach and give sunnah.the Prophet Muhammad (sa) said according to a well known sunni hadith:"take my sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphs".he also said in another sunni hadith:"my successors are 12 and all of them from Quraysh".those "rightly guided successors" are non other than the 12 holy Imams (as).you have to follow their sunnah according to the Prophet's (sa) command.and if we accept that the Prophet (sa) was the walking and talking Quran or what is referred to in arabic as "Quran an-Natiq",then those "rightly guided caliphs" we are commanded to follow their sunnah,must also be the same.they therefore are not mere mortals when it comes to teaching Islam and they cannot mislead us or misguide us.they must be just as the Prophet (sa) was,teaching the religion correctly.they therefore are the inheritors of the Prophet's (sa) knowledge.imamate is not just about political power which is referred to as the caliphate.it is also about spiritual guidance.

vedaxcool:
Ignorance must be highly correlated with being a shia, first Sunnis do not equate the the words of the Prophets or caliph or anyone for that matter with the techings or words of the Qur'an, secondly even during the riegn of the four claiphs, in some cases their ruling was overuled by the their successors who Umar revoke previous rulings of Abubakar, so the ignoramus called khomini was only being the polytheist taht we know him to be, I judge shia deviations with teachings of Islam.

the Prophet Muhammad (sa) said:"take my sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphs".for you to say abu bakr was wronged and umar corrected him or revoked his rulings or over-ruled them,then you are blatantly painting the Prophet (sa) as giving a wrong and misguided order,astaghfirullah! i hope you now see that when the Prophet (sa) orders you to follow the sunnah of someone it is like Allah (swt) ordering you to follow the sunnah of His prophets.the Quran says:"whatever the Prophet gives you,take!and whatever he restrains you from,stop!".therefore the words of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) is equal to the words of Allah (swt).the Quran in surah an-najm also says:"the Prophet does not speak of his desires but it is revelation revealed".

wthe Quran also says:"those who obey the messenger have obeyed Allah".in other words obedience to the Prophet (sa) is the same as obedience to Allah (swt).these are injunctions established in the Quran and not simply things that the Shia feel like saying.

when therefore Prophet Muhammad (sa0 says we should follow the sunnah of the "rightly guided caliphs" you must know that it is just as Allah (swt) ordering us to follow the sunnah of Muhammad (sa).Muhammad (sa) will not ask us to follow or obey anyone who could lead us astray or into error or "dalal" (misguidance).the order of the Prophet (sa) therefore must be treated as Allah's (swt) order.you telling me that abu bakr erred and umar corrected him,is therefore clear and plain that those you sunnis regard as the "rightly guided caliphs" (i.e. abu bakr,umar and usthman) were not rightly guided at all as you cited an example of umar revoking abu bakr's ruling.

so i know very well that you an reason,and i hope for once and for the sake of Allah (swt),you will see the truth.i do not mind all the insults you throw at me and against the Shia,if that will lead you to reasoning and seeing the truth.arrogance is from shaitan,remember?!!!i hope for once you will see that those three caliphs are not "rightly guided caliphs" the Prophet (sa) asked us to obey and follow.you should see that those 3 were given that title by historians after the attrocities muawiya committed in contrast to the era of the 3 which was more peaceful.

when we Shia believe in 12 holy Imams (as),we believe they were the inheritors of the Prophet's (sa) knowledge and they were guided by Allah (swt) and also purified as evident in Quran 33:33.we believe and can defend all that they did was correct and truthful.if they were the rightly guided caliphs,and the Prophet (sa) asked us to follow their sunnah,then their sunnah and religious teaching must be exemplary,truthful and correct.otherwise,or if not,then the Prophet (sa) would come under questioning,as the Prophet (sa) is someone that cannot order you to follow a false,wrong or incorrect sunnah that can amount to sin.

maybe you overlooked this Ittihad wa-yak-jihati:15, but we know playing dumb is best defense i would do if i were you.

i have found explanations regarding Ayatollah Khomeini's statement.and like what i earlier told you there is some sort of twisting by anti-Shia websites.the Ayatollah did not say the Prophet Muhammad (sa) failed in his mission.rather like i earlier mentioned,he was referring to a universal and worldwide Islamic government that would only be established by the Mahdi (ajtfs).the mission of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and that of the Mahdi (ajtfs) are different.the Prophet (sa) was only successful within the arabian peninsula and he successfully laid down the basis of Islam and the Sharia and mechanisms to reach justice.also,through the Prophet (sa) was Islam completed.however because of his contemporaries,his time he lived in and the limitation of his mission,his success was limited to arabia (in the political sense of establishing an islamic government) and then the deen religious-wise spread forth.yet still,there is no universal government based on Islam uniting mankind.even Sunnis agree that the universal Islamic government would only be established by Imam Mahdi (ajtfs).so previously,no prophet has succeeded in doing that.while that in itself is not failure on the part of the prophets as "failure" is relative,however only the Mahdi (as) would succeed in doing that.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement except when the anti-Shia websites try to give the statement a meaning of condemnation against the Prophet Muhammad (sa),which in the first place can never be the intent of Ayatollah Khomeini or any Shia;and i can swear my life on that.

He made a statement that is barely distinguishable from the rants of an insane mind, how does some start saying I cannot call him the first man, what sense does he live by, Khomini contribution to Muslims is polytheism, and his level is far beneath even a hadicapped muslim who sits in one place and calls Allah and says yaa Allah, and don't insult the prophets nor his companions, we too do lanat, we send our lanat on the shameless insulter of the Prophet, Islam, and the Qur'an, u are not the only one who is into the lanamt business lol the only hater i know in the Islam section is the man that calls children murdered by ali worshipers wahabis, we usually laugh at the paganism you mistayke for Islam! light of Ahlul bayt, the nasibi must not know his right from his left

May Allah (swt) guide you if you are after the truth.and if you are after lying and making heinous accusations of shirk (idolatry/polytheism) against other Muslims borne out of hatred,then Allah (swt) will inshaAllah judge you severely.

when you are done worshipping khmonini and his gang of liars, read his statement and see where he said; revealed to her future events, that in itself is revelation, which instead of revealing to Ali the supposed Imam it went to his wife, reducing him to a mere scribe do the shia ever reason? what a pity.

if you know the true maqam (level or station) of Sayyida Fatima (as),you will not try to make qiyas between her and her husband.to us,both of them are one and the same.

Now muslim bear witness that:

- khomini claimed your Qur'an the glorious book of Allah was changed and Lagosshia wants to teach u that
- Verses within the Qur'an were deleted and Lagosshia sees nothing wrong with such statement and insist we are blind

not true!

the Quran is complete without anything missing and with no addition.Ayatollah Khomeini made no allegation against the Quran but allegations against some companions;that is if we are to assume the statement attributed to him by the Nasibi Wahhabis is true.and those allegations such as a goat eating a verse or the liks,are the very words we find in sunni hadiths by companions held in high esteem by sunnis.

the excerpts Vedaxcool have quoted is anti-Khomeini propaganda by those jealous wahhabis and haters.you can see here evidence:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234959262-did-imam-khomeini-believe-in-tahrif-of-quran/

and Shia scholars are of consensus that the Quran is intact and preserved:

http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=9274

I was not hear to argue with you, the liar in you find misgivings with khomini statement, and started expalining it which off course i showed that it is nothing more that cassava lies indeed. Imagine Frosbel (in this case khomini) claiming that the Qur'an is changed, and the best response lagosshia brings is i a here to teach all sunni, that is what the case is, Shia is an argument against Islam, and devil deception where ignoramuses worship Ali ( who couldn't help himself from the khariwajies (shias who rebelled against him) ), they call upon him just like the Christians call upon Jesus
what moral authority do this polytheist have to challenge another group of polytheists? the same shias would think they have something to offer yet polytheism and grave worship is what they do! may Allah reward AbdulWahab for levelling on the monuments that muslims began building on grave especially for inspiring others to act on the shameless grave worshipers! amin

"Khawarij" cannot be regarded as "Shia" just as Judas Escariot who betrayed Jesus (as) cannot be described as Christian or if you like Muslim since Jesus (as) is Muslim.likewise those who betrayed the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and disobeyed him and the munafiqeen described in the Holy Quran cannot be called Muslims.it is only sunnis that honot some companions like abu bakr and umar who disobeyed the Prophet (sa) and reward them with accolades.however the Shia do not honor the Khawarij.

if you accuse us of grave-worship,and you are thanking ibn Abdul Wahhab for destroying the graves of the Prophet (sa),the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and the pious ones among the sahaba,then you can as well condemn Allah (swt) for encouraging building graves of righteous ones (the People of the Cave or Ashabul-Kahf) and honoring His good servants by preserving their memory by honoring their place of burial (regardless,that is in no way worshipping a grave or the dead):

Holy Quran 18:21
"And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allah is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure. Their Lord is most knowing about them." Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid."

you can also watch this:

"Is praying in front of a grave shirk in Islam or not?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPFjjqDyLU

LagosShia:

the Prophet Muhammad (sa) said:"take my sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphs".for you to say abu bakr was wronged and umar corrected him or revoked his rulings or over-ruled them,then you are blatantly painting the Prophet (sa) as giving a wrong and misguided order,astaghfirullah! i hope you now see that when the Prophet (sa) orders you to follow the sunnah of someone it is like Allah (swt) ordering you to follow the sunnah of His prophets.the Quran says:"whatever the Prophet gives you,take!and whatever he restrains you from,stop!".therefore the words of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) is equal to the words of Allah (swt).the Quran in surah an-najm also says:"the Prophet does not speak of his desires but it is revelation revealed".

wthe Quran also says:"those who obey the messenger have obeyed Allah".in other words obedience to the Prophet (sa) is the same as obedience to Allah (swt).these are injunctions established in the Quran and not simply things that the Shia feel like saying.

when therefore Prophet Muhammad (sa0 says we should follow the sunnah of the "rightly guided caliphs" you must know that it is just as Allah (swt) ordering us to follow the sunnah of Muhammad (sa).Muhammad (sa) will not ask us to follow or obey anyone who could lead us astray or into error or "dalal" (misguidance).the order of the Prophet (sa) therefore must be treated as Allah's (swt) order.you telling me that abu bakr erred and umar corrected him,is therefore clear and plain that those you sunnis regard as the "rightly guided caliphs" (i.e. abu bakr,umar and usthman) were not rightly guided at all as you cited an example of umar revoking abu bakr's ruling.

so i know very well that you an reason,and i hope for once and for the sake of Allah (swt),you will see the truth.i do not mind all the insults you throw at me and against the Shia,if that will lead you to reasoning and seeing the truth.arrogance is from shaitan,remember?!!!i hope for once you will see that those three caliphs are not "rightly guided caliphs" the Prophet (sa) asked us to obey and follow.you should see that those 3 were given that title by historians after the attrocities muawiya committed in contrast to the era of the 3 which was more peaceful.

when we Shia believe in 12 holy Imams (as),we believe they were the inheritors of the Prophet's (sa) knowledge and they were guided by Allah (swt) and also purified as evident in Quran 33:33.we believe and can defend all that they did was correct and truthful.if they were the rightly guided caliphs,and the Prophet (sa) asked us to follow their sunnah,then their sunnah and religious teaching must be exemplary,truthful and correct.otherwise,or if not,then the Prophet (sa) would come under questioning,as the Prophet (sa) is someone that cannot order you to follow a false,wrong or incorrect sunnah that can amount to sin.

No one worth being called a muslim places the words of the Qur'an equal to that of any mortal neither are the teachings of the Qur'an on par with the teachings of any one, the Qur'an is used to determine the correctness of any teaching, statements etc, the deviations of the shias is evident, to worship their man god khomini, they will insist that he was right when polytheism is what he ordered and it is what you follow

LagosShia:
i have found explanations regarding Ayatollah Khomeini's statement.and like what i earlier told you there is some sort of twisting by anti-Shia websites.the Ayatollah did not say the Prophet Muhammad (sa) failed in his mission.rather like i earlier mentioned,he was referring to a universal and worldwide Islamic government that would only be established by the Mahdi (ajtfs).the mission of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and that of the Mahdi (ajtfs) are different.the Prophet (sa) was only successful within the arabian peninsula and he successfully laid down the basis of Islam and the Sharia and mechanisms to reach justice.also,through the Prophet (sa) was Islam completed.however because of his contemporaries,his time he lived in and the limitation of his mission,his success was limited to arabia (in the political sense of establishing an islamic government) and then the deen religious-wise spread forth.yet still,there is no universal government based on Islam uniting mankind.even Sunnis agree that the universal Islamic government would only be established by Imam Mahdi (ajtfs).so previously,no prophet has succeeded in doing that.while that in itself is not failure on the part of the prophets as "failure" is relative,however only the Mahdi (as) would succeed in doing that.



there is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement except when the anti-Shia websites try to give the statement a meaning of condemnation against the Prophet Muhammad (sa),which in the first place can never be the intent of Ayatollah Khomeini or any Shia;and i can swear my life on that.

Again the followers of Islam and those rightly guided, again bear witness to Lagoshia, willingness to tolerate insult on the Prophet and rationalise such insults, just to make the idol he worship right at all cost! Khomini called the prophet a failure auzobiullah, the liar tries to make the statement that says clearly these "All prophets came for the purpose of laying down the foundation of justice in the world, but they failed to do so; even Prophet Muhammad, the last of the Prophets who came to reform mankind and to apply justice failed too" meaning even Khomini is too ignorant to even understand the prophets mission and that is the sort of ignoramus the shias follow and worship, how low their condition is!

LagosShia:
May Allah (swt) guide you if you are after the truth.and if you are after lying and making heinous accusations of shirk (idolatry/polytheism) against other Muslims borne out of hatred,then Allah (swt) will inshaAllah judge you severely.

Allah is already judging you, yuour lies, your hypocrisy and deciet! Khomini is kafir of the highest order and we enjoin all to call Allah's lanat upon him, the self appointed deputy of the hidden mehadi whom uses such claims to fool the unsuspecting! calls the prophets failures, call the Qur'an altered

LagosShia:
if you know the true maqam (level or station) of Sayyida Fatima (as),you will not try to make qiyas between her and her husband.to us,both of them are one and the same.

Allah revelation stop with Muhammad, the liars and polytheist invented all lies to decieve themselves, we ask what sense is there in the shia doctrine, where jibreel left the Imam, the point man who is supposing to rule over all living things including atoms (offcourse Ali r.a waited until he was appointed to rule over the affair of ummah making such claims unintelligable) and went to his wife, we ask what sense do this people use? May Allah guide them amin

LagosShia:
not true!

the Quran is complete without anything missing and with no addition.Ayatollah Khomeini made no allegation against the Quran but allegations against some companions;that is if we are to assume the statement attributed to him by the Nasibi Wahhabis is true.and those allegations such as a goat eating a verse or the liks,are the very words we find in sunni hadiths by companions held in high esteem by sunnis.

the excerpts Vedaxcool have quoted is anti-Khomeini propaganda by those jealous wahhabis and haters.you can see here evidence:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234959262-did-imam-khomeini-believe-in-tahrif-of-quran/

and Shia scholars are of consensus that the Quran is intact and preserved:

http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=9274

You are gravely ignorant I posted the words of khomini and you say we are blind again i repost them for all to see and to thank Allah that they are not in the religion of nasibi, polytheism and illogic "

In his book 'Kashf al-Asrar', Khomeini asserts, "T[b]he charge of tampering with the Book of Allah with which the Muslims indict the Jews and Christians, is only established against the Prophet's companion[/b][/color]s." He further elaborated in the same book, "It was easy for them (the Prophet's companions) to delete verses from the Qur'an, subject the Divine Scripture to alteration, and hide it away from people[color=#990000]"

this is very clear he said they alter the Qur'an, this is what you and the liars that have brain wash you cannot convinenietly dodge, he made these statment in stating why Ali r.a name ( as appointed the Imam)is no mention in the Qur'an. All should see how is dilly dallying on just one issue, khomini must be condemed by anyone claiming to be muslims or pretending to be one, Lanats must be sent upon these man until the hereafter mostly for misleading the Iranians and maligning Islam!

LagosShia:
"Khawarij" cannot be regarded as "Shia" just as Judas Escariot who betrayed Jesus (as) cannot be described as Christian or if you like Muslim since Jesus (as) is Muslim.likewise those who betrayed the Prophet Muhammad (sa) and disobeyed him and the munafiqeen described in the Holy Quran cannot be called Muslims.it is only sunnis that honot some companions like abu bakr and umar who disobeyed the Prophet (sa) and reward them with accolades.however the Shia do not honor the Khawarij.

if you accuse us of grave-worship,and you are thanking ibn Abdul Wahhab for destroying the graves of the Prophet (sa),the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and the pious ones among the sahaba,then you can as well condemn Allah (swt) for encouraging building graves of righteous ones (the People of the Cave or Ashabul-Kahf) and honoring His good servants by preserving their memory by honoring their place of burial (regardless,that is in no way worshipping a grave or the dead):

Holy Quran 18:21
"And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allah is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure. Their Lord is most knowing about them." Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid."

you can also watch this:

"Is praying in front of a grave shirk in Islam or not?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPFjjqDyLU

Liar the khawarijies were shais who turned against Ali just as later shai betrayed his son and grand son, Judas is christian whom they say was misguided by the devil, get you facts right, Ali disobeyed the Prophet ordered him to erase the title "messenger of Allah" in the treaty of Al huddaybiyyyah! so you would do better by shuting you mouth that only knows insults and lies

Keep worhsippig graves of people, we know you love shirk that is why you always makes sense of evil practices, and Abdul wahab only levelled structures built on the graves of the pious, you have an unreasonble talent of twisting the truth!

Holy Quran 18:21
"And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allah is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure. Their Lord is most knowing about them." Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid."


If this is the verse you use to justify grave worship then you need prayers and pity! indeed