Nairaland Forum

OAM4J:

ndu_chucks I expected you to know better. This move has not benefited Jonathan in any way. Imagine the thousands of UNILAG students and alumni with their sympathizers who before now still think something good can come out of Jonathan that would have written him off as clueless and visionless. And we are talking of people of voting age. This move has only reduce his support base if anything and reinforced the camp of his opposition who had already written him off.

Also the temporary shift of focus from the calls on Jonathan to fight corruption will work against him in the future. It will be on record that there was massive corruption under his government and he did nothing about it. It would have been better for him for the calls to be sustained and he carries out some cosmetic fight against corruption...ala OBJ style. When the time comes and when it matter most he will be reminded of his inability to fight corruption.

Either way IMO, his advisers are more clueless than him.

Indeed. I personally don't understand how Nigerians think and talk to the extent non-Nigerians reading Nairaland must surely think us mad. The nation is sinking under corruption, misrule and terrorism yet it is Nigerians themselves praising opportunistic deciet, the sort any semi-decent and focused President must never be associated with, as a "masterstroke".

Jonathan is reducing the Nigerian Presidency to an [b]arbitrary [/b]and desperate theatre of the absurd. His desperate actions fool no one. There is no "masterstroke" in callous and deceptive actions carried out to perpetuate greed, indolence, gross misrule and cluelessness in power. Anyone seeing this as praiseworthy should also extend kudos to GEJ for aiding the dismissal of murder charges against Teslim Folarin so the PDP Politician could be flown to Abuja, courtesy of the Presidency, to deliver delegates required to defeat Atiku.

Nigerians, even as they don't know it, show that they are as warped as their leaders with how they praise and even admire the self-serving actions of leaders that, in totality, only ruins Nigeria further and moves her away from development and increasingly damages the Institutional integrity she badly needs.

Akanbi_edu:

On the issue of whether Abiola deserved the honour or not, I think Koruji has done justice to that. The main point is, he stood by what he believed in and died for it. This is the most important thing in a man's life. If he had chickened out then, we would still be in military rule by now(good or bad is another issue entirely).

kuroji:
My points are: 1) Abiola redeemed himself with his last days - the way he spent the money on people when he had it, and the way he gave it all up suggest that he was truly noble at heart.

Lets just agree to disagree on this issue. In my own mind, a looter redeems himself by going to prison and returning the loot. MKO did neither.

@Gbawe, anyone who actually believes that GEJ's renaming action is a masterstroke needs to have his head examined. If you read my first post carefully, you'd note that I posed a question and stated that if indeed GEJ's action benefited him in anyway, it was due to an accident rather than genius.

ALL efforts should now be directed at removing the PDP from Aso Rock.

Onlytruth:

Never thought I'll see the day that ndu_chucks [/b]actually thinks that Jonathan is smart and powerful.
In fact the bolded words are making me to expect a sudden blinder from Jonathan soon; maybe a political move that would suck up to the North and stab his former supporters in the back.
This n[b]du_chucks' kite is making me restless.

Did you read my first post at all, or did you loot at the thread's title and jump to a dumb conclusion? Where did I claim that Jonathan is smart and powerful? Please go and reread my first post more carefully and you'll discover that what I did in the last paragraph was to ask a question. Kobojunkie seems to have noted that and provided her own answer to the question.

Eze Onlytruthlies, this is why you people find it difficult to defend your theses. I wonder whether your attended a fully accredited University in the US, your exams were probably all multiple choice types. olodo

ndu_chucks:



Lets just agree to disagree on this issue. In my own mind, a looter redeems himself by going to prison and returning the loot. MKO did neither.

@Gbawe, anyone who actually believes that GEJ's renaming action is a masterstroke needs to have his head examined. If you read my first post carefully, you'd note that I posed a question and stated that if indeed GEJ's action benefited him in anyway, it was due to an accident rather than genius.

ALL efforts should now be directed at removing the PDP from Aso Rock.

My brother, I know you will never be one of those praising desperate shamelessness as a "masterstroke". I genuinely believe one of the problems of Nigeria is the deleterious development of a situation where, incidentally, the Nigerians with the real power and number to make a change (i.e ordinary Nigerians) are too distracted with basic pursuit (survival, health, food etc ) to ever be able to gain the political sophistication that will enable them play a part in their own emancipation.

ndu_chucks:





@Gbawe, anyone who actually believes that GEJ's renaming action is a masterstroke needs to have his head examined. If you read my first post carefully, you'd note that I posed a question and stated that if indeed GEJ's action benefited him in anyway, it was due to an accident rather than genius.

Ok, but be careful with your thread topics in future. Your thread title , without any quotation marks, will lead folks to interprete your submission as your own thoughts. I fervently agree that the PDP must be voted out. All they do is deliver, time after time, desperado Presidents (OBJ, Yar Adua and now GEJ) who spend all their time attempting elaborate deceptions simply to facilitate the most basic and unthinking greed that enables "business as usual" to continue.

Gbawe:

Ok, but be careful with your thread topics in future. Your thread title , without any quotation marks, will lead folks to interprete your submission as your own thoughts. I fervently agree that the PDP must be voted out. All they do is deliver, time after time, desperado Presidents (OBJ, Yar Adua and now GEJ) who spend all their time attempting elaborate deceptions simply to facilitate the most basic and unthinking greed that enables "business as usual" to continue.

People should not respond to threads without reading the posts contained therein. I must confess that it is difficult to disagree with anything you wrote here.

ndu_chucks:

People should not respond to threads without reading the posts contained therein. I must confess that it is difficult to disagree with anything you wrote here.

I personally think the opposition, if they get their act together, will succeed in ousting the PDP in 2015 simply because the various "do or die" factions in the nest of killers PDP will rise up against each other with murderous rage , if Nigeria survive that long, to make the work of the opposition easier. I think PDP intra-Party political assassinations will be at an unprecedented level in 2014-2015.

Nonetheless, a broad coalition and massive grassroot mobilisation, after a formal merger, must begin soon for the opposition. Time is of the essence. The opposition, in 2011, made it far too easy for the PDP even when the ruling Party was badly divided and vulnerable.

What the opposition need to focus on is setting up easy to understand manifestos that average Nigerians can associate with, keep banging on about them and how they will impact positively on their lives until it sticks.The opposition has to offer a clear alternative and not just criticize the government, everybody knows the shortcomings of this PDP led government, but how do you get the masses to vote for good governance that can also have short term impact. AS has already been mentioned Nigerians are very fickle with short term memories, in order to combat this the opposition have their work cut out, but they can rally Nigerians to to their side if they stay organised and not get distracted by elements that will surely be implanted into the opposition to cause disunity. Pls check out my blog www.dimejijunior.blogspot.com