Nairaland Forum

muffins99: Many people here seem to think leadership is stricly political.

Fathers do you not lead your home, mothers don't you lead your children? Bosses, managers, team-leaders, headteachers, VCs, deans, heads of department, pastors, HODs, Immams, ... etc, are you not leaders?. Do you mean you've never bent the rules, paid money that was not due, turned a blind eye or kept mum about something you should have blown the whistle on, you've never carried someone's bag, run errands and practically kissed their feet or other parts of their anatomy, just to get something in return? If so, congratulations, you get to throw the first stone!!!!! Remember that by pointing a finger, 3 more are pointing right back at you so you better make sure you're not guilty.

Well said.

olyivy:

Believe me MAJORITY of nigerians are corrupt. We dont see it that way cos we dont even know what is corruption and what is not any longer!
The only thing we call corruption now is looting from abuja not looting our offices, disobeying traffic laws, beating queues, cheating in exams, hiking prices and countless others.
But tell me, what will stop anyone who did any of the above from NOT looting when he/she gets to Abuja.

I agree with you 100 percent.

jamace: A leader leads.
A leader shows the way to go.
A leader guides.
A leader dictates the pace.
A leader sees far ahead.
A leader does the planning.
A leader ensures the plans are executed according to the plan.
A leader is bizminded for the benefit of the led.
A leader sacrifices for the good of his followers.
A leader cares for the followers.
A leader puts the interest of his followers first.
A leader bears pains so that his people will enjoy.
A leader is selfless.
A leader is the light for the masses to follow.
A leader inspires.
A leader is a displinarian.
A leader is a servant.
A leader is not proud.
A leader is a problem solver.
A leader is the hope of the ordinary people.
A leader is fair but firm.
A leader is accountable to the led.
A leader does not rejoice in the suffering of the led.
A leader is responsible.
A leader has moral courage.
A leader is forthright.
A leader is upright.
A leader has vision.
A leader pursues his vision for the benefit of all.
A leader is tenacious.
A leader is bold but not proud.
A leader listens but not fooled.
A leader is knowledgeable but not necessarily a PhD holder.
A leader is innovative.
A leader is as innocent as a dove but wise as a serpent.
A leader takes responsibility for his actions.
A leader knows the pains of his people.
A leader does not disriminate among his followers.
A leader is father to all.
A leader works for the overall interest of his followers.

.......jamace

A leader falls from d sky?He doesn't come from the followers?

d truth is dt we're all corrupt, both d leaders&d followers. God help us in ds xtry where corruptn is d order of d day, even kids hve bn tot how to be corrupt!

davies123:
A leader falls from d sky?He doesn't come from the followers?

Coconut head, you are missing the point. Read the list carefully. Can you point to any of those you have so far elected that fits that bill? I am guessing your answer will be no, and why would that be? Because YOU did not elect a leader, but probably a tout, and are just reaping the consequences of doing that.

The moral of this really is STOP VOTING FOR TOUTS and look for LEADERs to vote for. None, I repeat NONE of those in office today magically morphed into touts AFTER they assumed office. Many of them were touts and theifs to begin with. You ought to ask why you even allowed such monsters to get into high office in the first place.

The power is in the hands of the people. It is up to you, and everyone else there to decide whether you will allow the same crop of monsters continue to represent you, and Nigeria, or if you are done with celebrating thiefs and mor0ns.

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Am so lovin this thread..the truth is that its easier to critisize...take a football match for example its so easy to stay in d comfort of ones sofa n shout at a player who missed a chance to score but wen one pays football lives one wud come to know its not easy
The truth is dat most people accusing leaders of being corrupt r far worse then dem....let's be truthhful,r u hands clean...lik really clean...-i wud let u answer dat question yourself

Kobojunkie:

Coconut head, you are missing the point. Read the list carefully. Can you point to any of those you have so far elected that fits that bill? I am guessing your answer will be no, and why would that be? Because YOU did not elect a leader, but probably a tout, and are just reaping the consequences of doing that.

The moral of this really is STOP VOTING FOR TOUTS and look for LEADERs to vote for. None, I repeat NONE of those in office today magically morphed into touts AFTER they assumed office. Many of them were touts and theifs to begin with. You ought to ask why you even allowed such monsters to get into high office in the first place.

The power is in the hands of the people. It is up to you, and everyone else there to decide whether you will allow the same crop of monsters continue to represent you, and Nigeria, or if you are done with celebrating thiefs and mor0ns.

Your first reaction to a comment on ur post is to abuse and yet u come here to talk abt leadership,a term u don't understand and clueless about because u obviously googled,copied and pasted ur post here to impress pple .Pls start frm learning manners n get a home training first then u can start talkin abt leadership!

davies123:
Your first reaction to a comment on ur post is to abuse and yet u come here to talk abt leadership,a term u don't understand and clueless about because u obviously googled,copied and pasted ur post here to impress pple .Pls start frm learning manners n get a home training first then u can start talkin abt leadership!

Abuse you? No, I did not such. Since only coconut heads IGNORE THE OBVIOUS MESSAGE only to post nonsense, I called you out as one.

Again, go back, read that List. the list not only tells you what leadership is about, it explicitly tells you what leadership tells you ought to look out for in your leaders. No googling required here since the message is all in the post you apparently responded to but somehow completely IGNORED.

I will probably only take anything you post seriously, and maybe consider your advice when you decide to start using your head and eyes, do we have a deal?

tuoyoojo: Am so lovin this thread..the truth is that its easier to critisize...take a football match for example its so easy to stay in d comfort of ones sofa n shout at a player who missed a chance to score but wen one pays football lives one wud come to know its not easy
The truth is dat most people accusing leaders of being corrupt r far worse then dem....let's be truthhful,r u hands clean...lik really clean...-i wud let u answer dat question yourself

It is not wrong to criticize those you elected into office. And it is really mor0nic to believe that after hiring a person to provide a solution to a problem, it is still up to you to PROFER solutions for the problems you are already paying that person millions to solve.
Anyways, if you do not criticize them, how do you think they will know something is wrong? How do they know that they are not doing a satisfactory job?

These touts in office cost the Nigerian people billions of dollars each year. How much longer are you going to let them continue to spend away your future? That is the question you probably should ask.

The leaders created the beast.. It's just a pattern and a vicious cycle with Nigeria - and someone needs to nip it in the bud before another generation of Nigerians gets infected with this bug..

the leaders are the product of their society

tevinsolt: the leaders are the product of their society

How do you mean??

These crop of leaders grew up in a better Nigeria - how come they have made it worse than the one they grew up in?

shymmex:

How do you mean??

These crop of leaders grew up in a better Nigeria - how come they have made it worse than the one they grew up in?

better Nigeria you say?..what of our culture that believes strongly in excessive acquisition of wealth and material things as a sign of success?
our culture that frowns on the young questioning their elders?

tevinsolt:

better Nigeria you say?..what of our culture that believes strongly in excessive acquisition of wealth and material things as a sign of success?
our culture that frowns on the young questioning their elders?

You're arguing off base, stick to the topic.

Was Nigeria not better in the 60s and 70s than it is now - yes or no?

jamace:

Leadership is responsibility which should be left to only responsible people. Any one who can not shoulder the demands of leadership should disappear into the crowd.

thank you sir! Leadership is NOT for everybody. OP's assertions would have carried more weight if our leaders have always been the ACTUAL wish of the MAJORITY of Nigerian. Anyone not given to sychophacy would know that has NOT been the case.

We are in tenacious grip of a merciless cabal whose interests are best protected by ensuring a corruption prone society is maintained. To achieve this, they will do ANYTHING POSSIBLE to make sure they or their ilk always remain in power.

doofanc:

thank you sir! Leadership is NOT for everybody. OP's assertions would have carried more weight if our leaders have always been the ACTUAL wish of the MAJORITY of Nigerian. Anyone not given to sychophacy would know that has NOT been the case.

We are in tenacious grip of a merciless cabal whose interests are best protected by ensuring a corruption prone society is maintained. To achieve this, they will do ANYTHING POSSIBLE to make sure they or their ilk always remain in power.

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Corruption thrives because it is made obscenely profitable by an already corrupt leadership.

The moment a credible person (and yes, they are there) gets into power and makes corruption less attractive by ensuring penalties, without fear or favor, are given, and seen to be given, to every infraction, i bet you there will be changes.

shymmex:

You're arguing off base, stick to the topic.

Was Nigeria not better in the 60s and 70s than it is now - yes or no?

seems like you're the one arguing here cuz i'm not, i'm just stating my opinion which doesn't change the fact that the government, Jonathan, governors and others suck so bad. Nigeria was handed over to people that were open minded people, people with vision, people who traveled around the world and saw how things were done in those part of the world but as time went on things changed, and then the military coupes and what not kicked in.

tevinsolt:

seems like you're the one arguing here cuz i'm not, i'm just stating my opinion which doesn't change the fact that the government, Jonathan, governors and others suck so bad. Nigeria was handed over to people that were open minded people, people with vision, people who traveled around the world and saw how things were done in those part of the world but as time went on things changed, and then the military coupes and what not kicked.

Read doofanc's post and you will get the answers you need..

tevinsolt:

seems like you're the one arguing here cuz i'm not, i'm just stating my opinion which doesn't change the fact that the government, Jonathan, governors and others suck so bad. Nigeria was handed over to people that were open minded people, people with vision, people who traveled around the world and saw how things were done in those part of the world but as time went on things changed, and then the military coupes and what not kicked in.

Couldn't it also be said that the vision-less people hand over their futures to leaders like the one we have today? I mean these leaders, as someone said earlier, did not fall from the sky upon Nigerians. They have been right there with the people from the beginning, and were essentially ALLOWED by the Nigerian people to impose their vision-less selves on them.

Kobojunkie:

Couldn't it also be said that the vision-less people hand over their futures to leaders like the one we have today? I mean these leaders, as someone said earlier, did not fall from the sky upon Nigerians. They have been right there with the people from the beginning, and were essentially ALLOWED by the Nigerian people to impose their vision-less selves on them.

it kinda goes both ways too, i mean why come out to contest for an office when you know you are not capable? also it is the people's fault for choosing incompetent individuals as leader....and i feel like Nigerians are not really ready for change yet, the mentality of the majority is heart aching, when they're really ready for change and good governance, no one force them to take charge.

So on point, poster, we have the kind of leaders we deserve. But, I'm sure there is one Nigerian that is t corrupt. What can we do? We can't watch and let things to this way. We need a change of leadership. How can we ensure that those old babas give way to young people of integrity? Positive suggestions please.

Today, I have made the decision to SPEAK when I see things going wrong. Let's all make that vow to speak up. It's our collective effort that'll cleanse this country. For how long will we be silent because we do t want to die? For how long? We end up creating the traps that'll eventually swallow us. Nigerians, let's all decide to fight corruption in our schools, workplace, hospitals, banks, e.t.c if u see a Nigerian shunting a queue, don't keep mute. If u see bad deeds scream, fight, till you are heard. We don't know if our loved ones will suffer for our silence. What's the essence of living in perpetual fear of death?

if there's away to enlighten especially young Nigerians that they deserve better, Nigeria has got both the natural and human resources to sustain a viable economy. what Nigeria need is young people from all over the country irrespective of cultural background to come together to form a political party that can be an example of what Nigeria should be.

tevinsolt:

it kinda goes both ways too, i mean why come out to contest for an office when you know you are not capable? also it is the people's fault for choosing incompetent individuals as leader....and i feel like Nigerians are not really ready for change yet, the mentality of the majority is heart aching, when they're really ready for change and good governance, no one force them to take charge.

Oh I disagree! It is the right of every citizen to run for office(as long as minimum requirements are met). However, it is the duty of the people to carefully vet the candidates to ensure that those valuable votes go to the best candidate. So, we should expect even the witches and wizards to come out to ask for our votes, it is up to us to decide how valuable those votes are to our future.

This is the best question ever .

The truth is, we are not any better but as leaders, they have more responsibilities than us! The responsibilties thrusted upon them when not properly handled by the leaders, are the reasons for the condemnation they receive.

A performing leader would be condemned and critised yet, praised when things are falling in place.

Frosbel, like someone rightly said, your thread lacks common sense. You have effectively taken the blame from the leaders and placed it on the shoulders of the people. This is not so; a leader is elected because he is believed to be the best among the lot, if he is not capable of shouldering the burden laid upon him, then he is not fit to be a leader. Always remember, if the head is corrupt, then so is the whole body. Nigeria has the capacity for change but it has to start from the leadership not from the people as you have erroneously suggested.

freshmoney:

You lack morals. Are you learned? You want to create ethnic war today- one of the most tragic moments in Nigeria?

The best way to punish an Ethnic jingoist or Religious fanatist in a moment like this, is to ignore him completelty and assume that he didn't say anything!

all in all i know is Nigeria will not move forward if there's no cooperation between the government and the people, the government can only do their best (assuming we have a good government).