In 08/09 Rvp didnt even make the top ten highest goal scorers.
1. Nicolas Anelka Chelsea 19 goals
2. Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United 18 goals
3. Steven Gerrard Liverpool 16 goals
4. Robinho Manchester City 14 goals
5. Fernando Torres Liverpool 14 goals
6. Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 12 goals
7. Darren Bent Tottenham Hotspur 12 goals
8. Kevin Davies Bolton Wanderers 12 goals
9. Dirk Kuyt Liverpool 12 goals
10. Frank Lampard Chelsea 12 goals
10. Wayne Rooney Manchester United 12 goals.

09/10 bloke didnt still make the top ten
1. Didier Drogba Chelsea 29 goals
2. Darren Bent Sunderland 24 goals
4. Carlos Tévez Manchester City 23 goals
5. Frank Lampard Chelsea 22 goals
6. Jermain Defoe Tottenham Hotspur 18 goals
7.Fernando Torres Liverpool 18 goals
8. Cesc Fàbregas Arsenal 15 goals
9. Emmanuel Adebayor Manchester City 14 goals
10. Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 13 goals
Louis Saha Everton 13 goals

07/08
1. Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United 31 goals
2. Fernando Torres Liverpool 24 goals
Emmanuel Adebayor Arsenal 24
4. Roque Santa Cruz Blackburn Rovers 19 goals
5. Benjani Portsmouth / Manchester City 15 goals
Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham Hotspur 15 goals
Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur 15 goals
Yakubu Everton 15 goals
9. Carlos Tévez Manchester United 14 goals
10. John Carew Aston Villa 13 goals

This Persie started off 10/11
1. Dimitar Berbatov Manchester United 20 goals
Carlos Tévez Manchester City 20 goals
3. Robin van Persie Arsenal 18 goals
4. Darren Bent Sunderland/Aston Villa 17 goals
5. Peter Odemwingie West Bromwich Albion 15 goals

coogar:

i gave you a list of seasons van persie was utter w@nk and you are here bringing youtube goals and telling us he's arsenal's best striker.
what a cobweb you have in your cranial cavity. rodallega is wigan's best striker now means he's being good? my comparison is against the whole league, you are clutching at him being the best striker at arsenal. . . .how many decent strikers have arsenal got that van persie won't be the best there?

Dont be a tool. First of all, i said he was Arsenal's best PLAYER, and that was  based on his performance in a PARTICULAR season(08/09), when he also led the whole league in assists. Secondly, Arsenal have been a top-four side since before they even signed Van Persie, so even if your comparison is against the whole universe, it doesn't matter. Lastly, every single team in the league, including the very worst side, will probably have their best player performing at a minimum of 7.5 or 8/10. e.g Rodallega's best season in a Wigan shirt was at least 8/10 and most of the top clubs were linked with him. Any way we look at it, you are blowing hot air.

compare van persie to the strikers in the league back then not what he was doing at arsenal.

04/05. . . .henry, andy johnson, yakubu, rooney, defoe were all better.
05/06. . . .henry, ruud, bent, keane, rooney were better.

06/07. . . . drogba, rooney, berbatov, bent, mccarthy and even mido stole the shine.
08/09. . . . .anelka, torres, rooney, robinho and bent still outclassed van persie.

Mugu, why will we compare RvP with strikers when he almost never played as a striker in those seasons? In any case i never said he was the best striker/player, i only said he performed well in those seasons. Are you are trying to invent a rule that states if player A B C & D played well, player E must be "utter w@ank"?

van persie has never made epl's team of the season ever before.

Because Van Persie has made 20 EPL starts just ONCE before this season. Last year he played half-a-season and almost won the golden boot. This year he's already run away with it, they might as well hand him the trophy now.

it's one thing to be brilliant in arsenal(they are full of shyte anyways) but it's another thing to be dominant in the league.

Yet again you expose your severe lack f common sense. Let's even assume Arsenal are shyte, is it not a massive indictment of you unrivaled stupidity you think it's easier to shine in a shyte team than a good one? Will Messi be scoring 50 goals a season if you stick him in Wigan or Bolton?

of van persie's 8 seasons in england, this season has been his best . . . . .apart from his obvious number one position on the scorer's charts, he has been able to do it in hostile away grounds. something he never did in seasons past.

How many minutes has he copped at these hostile grounds and what position did he play? Answers on a postcard please!

I remember him scoring a brace at Stamford bridge that put one of the final nails in Scolari's coffin, funny!

if i grab agbonlahor's videos on youtube n paste them here, you would pee in your pants.

Go and grab it. . . Youtube may not necessarily tell you the overall quality of a player but it can show you his abilities. Does Agbonlahor score goals like this on Youtube?

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for you to come here and say van persie was 8.5/10 in 2006/7 makes u look like a complete dunderhead.
what should we then call ronaldo that season? 14/10?

RvP's performance in 06/07 was 8.5/10, 8 at very least, you can quote me anywhere. Speaking of quotes, maybe i should dig up your posts from the 06/07 team of the season thread where you were creaming yourself over RvP's sterling performances on the left-wing, only to come here 5 years later to feign ignorance. You're a phucking disgrace!

mikuz:

In 08/09 Rvp didnt even make the top ten highest goal scorers.
1. Nicolas Anelka Chelsea 19 goals
2. Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United 18 goals
3. Steven Gerrard Liverpool 16 goals
4. Robinho Manchester City 14 goals
5. Fernando Torres Liverpool 14 goals
6. Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 12 goals
7. Darren Bent Tottenham Hotspur 12 goals
8. Kevin Davies Bolton Wanderers 12 goals
9. Dirk Kuyt Liverpool 12 goals
10. Frank Lampard Chelsea 12 goals
10. Wayne Rooney Manchester United 12 goals.

mikuz:

09/10 bloke didnt still make the top ten
1. Didier Drogba Chelsea 29 goals
2. Darren Bent Sunderland 24 goals
4. Carlos Tévez Manchester City 23 goals
5. Frank Lampard Chelsea 22 goals
6. Jermain Defoe Tottenham Hotspur 18 goals
7.Fernando Torres Liverpool 18 goals
8. Cesc Fàbregas Arsenal 15 goals
9. Emmanuel Adebayor Manchester City 14 goals
10. Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 13 goals
Louis Saha Everton 13 goals

mikuz:

07/08
1. Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United 31 goals
2. Fernando Torres Liverpool 24 goals
Emmanuel Adebayor Arsenal 24
4. Roque Santa Cruz Blackburn Rovers 19 goals
5. Benjani Portsmouth / Manchester City 15 goals
Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham Hotspur 15 goals
Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur 15 goals
Yakubu Everton 15 goals
9. Carlos Tévez Manchester United 14 goals
10. John Carew Aston Villa 13 goals

mikuz:

This Persie started off 10/11
1. Dimitar Berbatov Manchester United 20 goals
Carlos Tévez Manchester City 20 goals
3. Robin van Persie Arsenal 18 goals
4. Darren Bent Sunderland/Aston Villa 17 goals
5. Peter Odemwingie West Bromwich Albion 15 goals

Yet another flaming eediot outs himself as a block-head!

So you ran to wherever to get top-scorers chart and noticed RvP was missing and came here to type this nonsense without asking yourself why he wasn't there?

07/08: Only 13 starts, scored 7 goals from a withdrawn role, are you on crack?

08/09: Just 24 starts in the hole behind Adebayor, playing ostensibly as an attacking midfielder, had a better goal-ratio than Rooney who made the top-ten. Also made the most number of assists.

09/10: Started just 14 games and scored 9 goals, one of the best ratios in the league. You must be a lunatic to even mention this season.



In case y'all missed the memo, RvP boasts the best goal-ratio in Premier League history since he actually started playing as a striker(09/10) with 52 goals in roughly 59 games(about 5375 minutes). *Obviously excluding players who haven't played a sufficient number of games e.g Pogrebnyak.

ritchboy:

Dont be a tool. First of all, i said he was Arsenal's best PLAYER, and that was  based on his performance in a PARTICULAR season(08/09), when he also led the whole league in assists. Secondly, Arsenal have been a top-four side since before they even signed Van Persie, so even if your comparison is against the whole universe, it doesn't matter. Lastly, every single team in the league, including the very worst side, will probably have their best player performing at a minimum of 7.5 or 8/10. e.g Rodallega's best season in a Wigan shirt was at least 8/10 and most of the top clubs were linked with him. Any way we look at it, you are blowing hot air.

stop arguing like a numbskull. . . .van persie leading the whole league in assists was because of his obscene amount of corner-kicks and indirect freekicks he floats in. how many of those assists came from open play? you said van persie has always been a good striker. i said no. . .he hasn't always been good and i have brought out names of other forwards better than van persie in the seasons i listed.

Mugu, why will we compare RvP with strikers when he almost never played as a striker in those seasons? In any case i never said he was the best striker/player, i only said he performed well in those seasons. Are you are trying to invent a rule that states if player A B C & D played well, player E must be "utter w@ank"?

to be considered good, you must be in the top 5. . . .are you saying defenders jitter when they saw van persie's name on arsenal's team list in 06/07?
jeeez, in that season, the names that send fear across the land were rooney, ronaldo, drogba, bent, etc

ronaldo never played as a striker. rooney often found himself on the flank as well.
dirk kuyt, robinho, anelka, etc have all had to play on the flank to accommodate strikers in their team so what's the excuse?

Because Van Persie has made 20 EPL starts just ONCE before this season. Last year he played half-a-season and almost won the golden boot. This year he's already run away with it, they might as well hand him the trophy now.

stop bothering yourself about what van persie coulda, woulda, shoulda done and concentrate on what he has done.
by the same token, owen hargreaves is the best defensive midfielder on the planet. the only time he completed a full season, he won the european double for his team. if he was fit in 08/09, 09/10, 10/11, united would have won 3 back to back champions league titles.
only criminally idiotic fellows reason like that.

Yet again you expose your severe lack f common sense. Let's even assume Arsenal are shyte, is it not a massive indictment of you unrivaled stupidity you think it's easier to shine in a shyte team than a good one? Will Messi be scoring 50 goals a season if you stick him in Wigan or Bolton?

arsenal are shyte. . . .the weakest team in the top four with van persie being the best of the lot, how won't he score obscene amount of goals @ arsenal?
the closest player to van persie on the scorer's chart is theo walcott with 5 league goals and van persie has 25 goals. he gets the lion share cos he's the only decent striker arsenal have got.

let's look at other clubs.
rooney(18), chicharito(- berbatov(7), welbeck(6)
aguero(16), dzeko(13),  balotelli(11), silva(5)
adebayor(11) defoe(9) bale(9)

once you have a situation where the top scorer in a club has scored 5 times as much as the 2nd top scorer, then there's a crisis.
even in 09/10 when rooney was on a scoring spree before he did his own ankle in munich, he scored 26 goals and berbatov copped 12 league goals.
van persie scores that much because there's no other striker that would eat into his ration of goals.

How many minutes has he copped at these hostile grounds and what position did he play? Answers on a postcard please!

what's my business in the number of minutes he's played at old trafford?
fact remains it took van persie 8 seasons to score a goal at old trafford.

I remember him scoring a brace at Stamford bridge that put one of the final nails in Scolari's coffin, funny!

ronaldo scored a brace at highbury @ the age of 19(invincible era of arsenal)
no united fan would tell you he had a good season all because of that.
the lack of trophies has made you gooners celebrate mediocrity.

Go and grab it. . . Youtube may not necessarily tell you the overall quality of a player but it can show you his abilities. Does Agbonlahor score goals like this on Youtube?

for every good goal van persie has scored, wayne rooney has scored 3 times more. name it. . . .volley, headers, benders, chipping the goalie, etc.
even with that, i would not say rooney has been class in all his seasons at united. he's had stinkers in several seasons.
i have to say our standards of rating players differ. fecking hell, your own standard is very low.

RvP's performance in 06/07 was 8.5/10, 8 at very least, you can quote me anywhere. Speaking of quotes, maybe i should dig up your posts from the 06/07 team of the season thread where you were creaming yourself over RvP's sterling performances on the left-wing, only to come here 5 years later to feign ignorance. You're a phucking disgrace!

8.5/10 and he never made the premier league team of the season.  are you high on shekpe?
who's doing this rating? as a winger, ronaldo, giggs, pedersen, kuyt, david bentley, james milner and aaron lennon were all better.
as a striker, drogba, mccarthy, viduka, rooney, doyle, bent, etc were better.

go n dig up any quotes of mine that had me creaming myself over van persie in 06/07.
van persie? you must be ultra-high.
ronaldo that won player of the season in 06/07 won't even get 8.5/10. he would get 8(max)!

ritchboy:

In case y'all missed the memo, RvP boasts the best goal-ratio in Premier League history since he actually started playing as a striker(09/10) with 52 goals in roughly 59 games(about 5375 minutes). *Obviously excluding players who haven't played a sufficient number of games e.g Pogrebnyak.

you are such a liar.
van persie often played as a striker before 09/10. . . .in 07/08, arsenal were still a 4-4-2 team.
as at then, they had rosicky and hleb who played as wingers. . . .adebayor/van persie were the strike partners.

even in 06/07, van persie was a striker.
hleb on the right, rosicky on the left and walcott would come in for one of them.
must you lie to score cheap brownie points?

coogar:

stop arguing like a numbskull. . . .van persie leading the whole league in assists was because of his obscene amount of corner-kicks and indirect freekicks he floats in. how many of those assists came from open play?

Mr Mumu, how many goals did he assist from set-pieces? Was RvP the only player that took set-pieces that season or what rubbish are you trying to say?

you said van persie has always been a good striker. i said no. . .he hasn't always been good and i have brought out names of other forwards better than van persie in the seasons i listed.

Say we "assume" your list is accurate, how does other players being good stop Van Persie from being good as well? Messi is the best player in the world, does that mean he is the only good player?

ronaldo never played as a striker. rooney often found himself on the flank as well.
dirk kuyt, robinho, anelka, etc have all had to play on the flank to accommodate strikers in their team so what's the excuse?

And how many goals do Kuyt and co score playing from the wing? You think it's coincidence Anelka's highest scoring season was mainly as a center forward?

stop bothering yourself about what van persie coulda, woulda, shoulda done and concentrate on what he has done.
by the same token, owen hargreaves is the best defensive midfielder on the planet. the only time he completed a full season, he won the european double for his team. if he was fit in 08/09, 09/10, 10/11, united would have won 3 back to back champions league titles.
only criminally idiotic fellows reason like that.

You are a BIG F00L! I never said RvP would've done anything, YOU are the one that accused him of not doing something and i reminded you he never had the opportunity to do it, therefore you cannot castigate him for not doing it. It's like me saying your unborn children are deaf and dumb because they cannot speak or listen from your scrotum!

arsenal are shyte. . . .the weakest team in the top four with van persie being the best of the lot, how won't he score obscene amount of goals @ arsenal?
the closest player to van persie on the scorer's chart is theo walcott with 5 league goals and van persie has 25 goals. he gets the lion share cos he's the only decent striker arsenal have got.

let's look at other clubs.
rooney(18), chicharito(- berbatov(7), welbeck(6)
aguero(16), dzeko(13),  balotelli(11), silva(5)
adebayor(11) defoe(9) bale(9)

once you have a situation where the top scorer in a club has scored 5 times as much as the 2nd top scorer, then there's a crisis.
even in 09/10 when rooney was on a scoring spree before he did his own ankle in munich, he scored 26 goals and berbatov copped 12 league goals.
van persie scores that much because there's no other striker that would eat into his ration of goals.

You are a blunt tool. Arsenal play with one striker, who has just happened to feature in every game to date(automatically meaning the other strikers haven't played much), it's perfectly normal for him to outscore the wingers/midfielders by a big margin especially when he's doing better than every other striker in the league as well. Silva has the same number of goals as Walcott. Apart from Bale(who is still way behind RvP) the only players on your list to have outscored Walcott are all strikers(unfortunately for my fingers i have to remind you Arsenal play with one striker).

Messi has 43 goals this season, the closest player to him at Barca should be Cesc with 15 or 16. Using your daft analogy Messi is "the only decent forward" Barca have and they are "in crisis", lololol.

ronaldo scored a brace at highbury @ the age of 19(invincible era of arsenal)
no united fan would tell you he had a good season all because of that.
the lack of trophies has made you gooners celebrate mediocrity

You ask me a question about RvP scoring at "hostile grounds", i remind you he scored a brace at Chelsea previously and you come back to type this nonsense?

for every good goal van persie has scored, wayne rooney has scored 3 times more. name it. . . .volley, headers, benders, chipping the goalie, etc.

Has Agbonlahor changed his name to Rooney?

even with that, i would not say rooney has been class in all his seasons at united. he's had stinkers in several seasons.

Of course, RvP never went 10 or is it twelve months without scoring a goal from open play as you're always keen to remind Dayokanu in defense of El Hoho!

8.5/10 and he never made the premier league team of the season.  are you high on shekpe?

How many minutes did he play? Didn't he make YOUR team of the season or has your brains hdd crashed?

who's doing this rating? as a winger, ronaldo, giggs, pedersen, kuyt, david bentley, james milner and aaron lennon were all better.
as a striker, drogba, mccarthy, viduka, rooney, doyle, bent, etc were better.

And who did THIS rating!!??

go n dig up any quotes of mine that had me creaming myself over van persie in 06/07.
van persie? you must be ultra-high.

I'll send Debosky

ronaldo that won player of the season in 06/07 won't even get 8.5/10. he would get 8(max)!

Funny, cos that was the same season Sharon declared Ronaldo the best player in the EPL/multiverse. If the best player in the league was 8/10, then the EPL must be shyte and all the other players should commit suicide.

ritchboy:

Say we "assume" your list is accurate, how does other players being good stop Van Persie from being good as well? Messi is the best player in the world, does that mean he is the only good player?

they were better. . . .i am not saying van persie was as good as them back then.

And how many goals do Kuyt and co score playing from the wing? You think it's coincidence Anelka's highest scoring season was mainly as a center forward?

playing as a centre forward helps. . . .but playing as a midfielder who takes set pieces like free-kicks/penalties also help.
lampard is the highest goal scorer at chelsea - it's not coincidence!

You are a BIG F00L! I never said RvP would've done anything, YOU are the one that accused him of not doing something and i reminded you he never had the opportunity to do it, therefore you cannot castigate him for not doing it. It's like me saying your unborn children are deaf and dumb because they cannot speak or listen from your scrotum!

you are a plank!
damn it, you insinuated van persie has always been a world class player but his injuries prevented him from shining.
i am saying no to that. he's not always been a world class player - he's simply improved and has learnt how to lead the line.

You are a blunt tool. Arsenal play with one striker, who has just happened to feature in every game to date(automatically meaning the other strikers haven't played much), it's perfectly normal for him to outscore the wingers/midfielders by a big margin especially when he's doing better than every other striker in the league as well. Silva has the same number of goals as Walcott. Apart from Bale(who is still way behind RvP) the only players on your list to have outscored Walcott are all strikers(unfortunately for my fingers i have to remind you Arsenal play with one striker).

city also play with a lone striker(4-2-3-1). united also often play the lone striker with rooney dropping deeper to the midfield and welbeck/chicharito leading the line. it's a no brainer. ratio 25 to 5 in the league is atrocious.

Messi has 43 goals this season, the closest player to him at Barca should be Cesc with 15 or 16. Using your daft analogy Messi is "the only decent forward" Barca have and they are "in crisis", lololol.

barca would be in crisis if cesc had scored 16 and messi has scored 80.
the ratio in arsenal is 5 to 1. 43 :16 is not 5 to 1, you olodo.

You ask me a question about RvP scoring at "hostile grounds", i remind you he scored a brace at Chelsea previously and you come back to type this nonsense?
Has Agbonlahor changed his name to Rooney?

doing it in a one-off is nothing.
doing it regularly is the ish -

Of course, RvP never went 10 or is it twelve months without scoring a goal from open play as you're always keen to remind Dayokanu in defense of El Hoho! ;DHow many minutes did he play? Didn't he make YOUR team of the season or has your brains hdd crashed?
And who did THIS rating!!??

which team of the season is this tout talking about.
why don't you post this nonsense and save us from these white lies you keep bandying about.

van persie my foot!

Funny, cos that was the same season Sharon declared Ronaldo the best player in the EPL/multiverse. If the best player in the league was 8/10, then the EPL must be shyte and all the other players should commit suicide.

i don't just donate marks to players. . . . .ronaldo couldn't have been 10/10 in 06/07.
even in 07/08 when he scored 42 goals . . . . .he won't get 10/10. . . .it would be a 9(max).

May God punish any1 that says V.Persie is not the current best striker in the world, But Ibrahimovic dey try too sha, But RVP anyday anytym, If u remove RVP goals from the arsenal range, Arsenal would sit at 17th position.

āşķ dįş qųęşţįoŋ ŋow, lol . ţoŗŗęş ā bįg flop

How times have changed

So people actually debated on who was better between FLOP TORRES AND RVP