Chinom:

Yes, you heard right. i stand by that statement 100%. I don't know in which sh*ithole you live in when you are in Nigeria, but having lived in both sides of the world for a long time, i can tell you categorically that a rich Nigerian in Nigeria lives a better life than a rich Nigerian in the west. By rich i'm not even talking about the Dangote, Adenuga level, i'm talking about guys that make an average of N850,000 a month in whatever they're engaged in.
Has it occurred to you that 85% of the people you see inside the plane enroute London do not live there.
They are going on vacation and to shop. The miserable looking 10-15% are those that actually live and work in Europe and USA.

chucky234: We too much for Naija,the life of a hustler in picture.

lekkie073:
Thank you for d enlighenement...coming from someone who has tasted both worlds at least. Some of my naija brodas believe dat once they land uk, dem go just dey pick pounds for ground like waste paper. I pity such ignoramus!

naijababe:


Sorry to break it to you, he didn't really taste both sides of the world. I am not really interested in going back and forth but the truth is that living as a middle/upper middle class in the UK is miles ahead of living the same in Nigeria. What the heck is wrong with washing your own car, or carrying your own luggage? I desire to return to live in Nigeria purely based on sentiment rather than logic.

naijababe:


Sorry to break it to you, he didn't really taste both sides of the world. I am not really interested in going back and forth but the truth is that living as a middle/upper middle class in the UK is miles ahead of living the same in Nigeria. What the heck is wrong with washing your own car, or carrying your own luggage? I desire to return to live in Nigeria purely based on sentiment rather than logic.

AjanleKoko:

NB,
I am pretty certain that upper middle class/upper class people in the UK don't wash their own cars, or carry their own luggage. Same as Nigeria.
There's a difference between working-class with decent earnings, and actual upper class people. It's just that in Nigeria, unskilled/semi-skilled labour is very cheap, so you can organize a nanny, maid, and driver for under 100k a month and feel large with yourself. Try am for UK

For me anyway, the quality of life is relative. I'm generally happy with my life in Naija, and wouldn't trade it for the UK. But Spain? Without a doubt. I plan to retire to the Iberian peninsula anyway.

AjanleKoko:

NB,
I am pretty certain that upper middle class/upper class people in the UK don't wash their own cars, or carry their own luggage. Same as Nigeria.
There's a difference between working-class with decent earnings, and actual upper class people. It's just that in Nigeria, unskilled/semi-skilled labour is very cheap, so you can organize a nanny, maid, and driver for under 100k a month and feel large with yourself. Try am for UK

naijababe: .

Bros, families with £100k+ annual income are considered upper middle class in the UK at least, they still wash their cars and carry their luggages.

AjanleKoko:

Are you sure about that? I mean the income bracket for upper middle class in the UK?
Just like most people earning N15-20m in Nigeria can't afford to buy a house in Ikoyi or Lekki, I'd expect that someone earning £100k plus would not be able to afford digs in Knightsbridge, Kensington, or Victoria. The tax regime lasan would probably put paid to that.

My own assessment of an upper middle class fellow is someone that can afford to pay N300m for a house in Ikoyi, or £2.5m in Earl's Court. That kind of person would definitely have a retinue of servants. You know those people that move from office to club to villa to yatcht. Those are my own upper-middle class people oh. If you no dey that level, you still dey rat race, auntie

kunletiwoo: Why my Name?

naijababe:

You want to 'wunjure'me with your post. Bros, the income bracket for the upper middle class is what I stated earlier, people with those kinda digs as in your post are rich people and I agree rich people don't wash their cars or carry their own luggage.

AjanleKoko:

Are you sure about that? I mean the income bracket for upper middle class in the UK?
Just like most people earning N15-20m in Nigeria can't afford to buy a house in Ikoyi or Lekki, I'd expect that someone earning £100k plus would not be able to afford digs in Knightsbridge, Kensington, or Victoria. The tax regime lasan would probably put paid to that.

My own assessment of an upper middle class fellow is someone that can afford to pay N300m for a house in Ikoyi, or £2.5m in Earl's Court. That kind of person would definitely have a retinue of servants. You know those people that move from office to club to villa to yatcht. Those are my own upper-middle class people oh. If you no dey that level, you still dey rat race, auntie

AjanleKoko:

NB,
I am pretty certain that upper middle class/upper class people in the UK don't wash their own cars, or carry their own luggage. Same as Nigeria.
There's a difference between working-class with decent earnings, and actual upper class people. It's just that in Nigeria, unskilled/semi-skilled labour is very cheap, so you can organize a nanny, maid, and driver for under 100k a month and feel large with yourself. Try am for UK

For me anyway, the quality of life is relative. I'm generally happy with my life in Naija, and wouldn't trade it for the UK. But Spain? Without a doubt. I plan to retire to the Iberian peninsula anyway.

AjanleKoko:

In that case, the UK big boys no reach Naija big boys, i am sorry to say.

manie:


I don't think anybody that can afford N300 million to buy a house should be referred to a middle class. I am sure such a person will also have investments in shares, businesses, cars etc. At the end of the day the net worth of the person will definitely be up to a minimum of N600 million or 4 million dollars.
Even in America people with a net-worth of 4 million dollars belong to upper class, although we have levels in the upper class.

lekkie073: Then, i noticed dat those with average investments don't often complain about naija. Its those that are paid salaries that do. A word of advice...investment is assurance of quality life. If there's wealth, a man can stay in a remote village and still live like the queen. Its all about d pepper

manie:

What is the percentage of the so-called Nigeria big boys that have a net-worth of a minimum of N600 million, I am sure they are not up to 0.5% of the population that is about 3 million people.
About 500,000 will be politicians and their cronies, may be 2 million of them are successful businessmen and investors, and may 500,000 of them are top executives in the private sector.
I am very sure that this estimate of mine is highly inflated, the number of people with a minimum net-worth of N600 million are far less than 0.5% of the population.

AjanleKoko:

So what percentage of people in the UK have net worth of N600 million?
50%?

manie: Anybody with a net-worth of N600 million in Nigeria is not a member of the upper middle class, but a member of the upper class.

manie:

What I am saying is that such a person belongs to the upper class. Although for upper class, strata still dey.
We have millionaires, deca- millionaires, multi millionaira, billionaires and multi billionaires all in pound or dollars.

I think a net-worth of N600 million or 4 million dollar is just a millionaire. Such a person belongs to lower upper class.

Poverty sef get class

AjanleKoko:

Bros, trust me on this one.
600 million is nothing major in Nigeria, as far as the upper class is concerned.



LOL@Lower upper class

But this whole UK-Nigeria comparison got me thinking, and truth be told, Nigerian bigger boys are probably enjoying more than UK big boys.
The wealth distribution is very uneven in Nigeria, to the point of ridiculous. Consider that one fresh graduate can be earning 600k naira a year (telco call center), and another earning N10m a year (Shell). That's more than fifteen times difference. I doubt many countries have such ridiculous disparities.

manie:

Nationally it is a big deal, people with this net-worth are about 1% of our population. In a place like Banana Island a net-worth of N600 million will place you in the lower class in that estate, infact such a person will be a tenant in the estate.

AjanleKoko:

Possible.
Also, I find that most if not all of the cleaners and security guards I have come across in Nigeria don't have beyond school certificate. Some have maybe OND. I'm yet to come across one that has a degree.

However, a lot of the security guards (who are mostly men) are trying to get a degree from one part time school or the other.
A lot of the cleaners are women, and are either already married to some blue-collar person, or have kids outside wedlock. A few are also trying to get a degree as well.

There's a lot of similarity in both paradigms, either here or outside the country.



I agree with at least the first paragraph of your post. Unfortunately in Nigeria, the real hustle is outside the school environment, and the people have not matured enough to understand the real meaning of that statement. So everybody tries to chase the paper certificate.

The one thing that disturbs me the most about Nigerians is very simple: We as a people don't believe that we can make it via hard, unglamorous work. For us, it's always going to be a lottery, so we spend all our time and energy playing it. Even in school, Nigerians pass exams but rarely learn anything of value.

AjanleKoko:

Possible.
Also, I find that most if not all of the cleaners and security guards I have come across in Nigeria don't have beyond school certificate. Some have maybe OND. I'm yet to come across one that has a degree.

However, a lot of the security guards (who are mostly men) are trying to get a degree from one part time school or the other.
A lot of the cleaners are women, and are either already married to some blue-collar person, or have kids outside wedlock. A few are also trying to get a degree as well.

There's a lot of similarity in both paradigms, either here or outside the country.



I agree with at least the first paragraph of your post. Unfortunately in Nigeria, the real hustle is outside the school environment, and the people have not matured enough to understand the real meaning of that statement. So everybody tries to chase the paper certificate.

The one thing that disturbs me the most about Nigerians is very simple: We as a people don't believe that we can make it via hard, unglamorous work. For us, it's always going to be a lottery, so we spend all our time and energy playing it. Even in school, Nigerians pass exams but rarely learn anything of value.

ebamma: an average cleaner in the uk may earn upto 20 to 30 pounds per hour,i will leave u to do the maths,if he works atleast 20 hrs a week.

fashizie: shut up dia n call a spade a spade
cos the pepper is more.period!

lagcity:
kai! igbo man , i hail ooo. see as d guy just do d whole calculation for him head.

manie:

To our corrupt politicians N600 million is the allowance to fuel their generators or cars, our president will need more than that for his meals.
But to most hardworking Nigerian workers, businessmen, Entrepreneurs, executives it is a big deal. Anybody who accumulates such wealth legally should be commended. I also know people who made such money without stealing or embezzling public funds.

Sky-walker:



I disagree with your first sentence.

Your sentence about cheap labour is also funny. Just so you know, that not cheap labour,that's slavery. if you can pay 3 people under 100k. How do you expect them to feed their family? Of course, it not your business