I disagree with the topic though but agree that going after Ibori now is political
and not a genuine anti corruption drive. This is how its done in our clime and its unfortunate,
when the political table turnsround it might be any other person's turn. We are waiting!!

unfortunate!

I dont care where he comes from, we need not hassle ourselves
over such petty issues; all I know is that most of the nominees,
the nominator and screening assembly members are no solutions
to our survival as a nation.We need to have a proper and genuine
electoral reforms to have the deserved change where peoples vote
will count not the concotion emanating from the national assembly.
We need to work towards having a less attractive political system
hence the craze to recoup and over recoup while in office will be a
thing of the past.

GOLD DIGGERS:

Every woman is a Gold digger. We just use different tools, some use cranes, some tractors, others straws and the rest, spoons[i][/i]

Deep Soul thank you for the quote.
Even when they have fat bank accounts more than
the man in some instances, they keep demanding for more hence
the guy will wait for them to ask believing
he has given enough the last time, that would last a while.
women and money are inseparable!!! This attitude is rather
rampant more in Africa than in Europe or the US.

No! is the answer.
when you love somene you
hold such person dearly and
tots of cheating on the person
which can cause emotional hurts
wont even come to the mind.

Pls poster allow me to frame your topic as : kindly guess Jonathan's ministers designates.
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN NIGERIA
Jerry Gana-----justice
Rilwan lukman-----aviation
Buhari salisu------education
Mike aondoaka-----housing
Theo danjuma----oil wells, sorry petroleum
Turai yar adua----- finance/FCT
Gbenga obasanjo---agric
Bode george-----defence
Ndudi elemelu-----power
Hassan lawal----information
Ojo madueke------commerce
James ibori------ anti corruption ministry

Though they are rogues themselves, i.e National Assembly legislators and played major roles
in Nigeria's present malaise leading to Gadaffi's unsolicited advise. We expect decorum
from them and be mindful of what they say in their official capacity, there are more Nigerians
in Libya than are Libyans here, the implications can be damaging to Nigerians there. The Americans
told us we are heading towards a failed state, where was David Mark then? If David mad has
relations in Libya I bet he wont misfire as he did, without decorum and with gusto conceitedness.

joshO:

It goes without saying that Farida has been far less effective than Ribadu. Ribadu remains the gold standard for how the war on curruption in Nigeria must be fought.

However, the obstacles faced by the EFCC under Yar Presidency must be recognized as a main limitation. The EFCC can only be as effective as the goverment of day permits.

It's ironic - under OBJ, millions was spent on training a select group of respected judges in SA, Europe, US - aimed at empowering them with requisite knowledge.

Under Yar on the other hand, the most currupt judges are being elevated to new heights and handed 'big ticket' transactions (cases).

When the top is rotten, as is the case with Nigeria, nothing good should be expected from the institutions within,

I dnt have a flair a bit for Farida, Comparing her with Ribadu is off beam.
Obj portrayed to the wrld he was fighting corruption and used Ribadu to hack
corrupt enemies (Ibori inclusive). For a man who disobeyed court orders
and undermined our constitution can never be a gold standard for an
anti corruption institution.
one day Ibori and other economy plungers will give account of our stolen commonwealth

This is sad, the targets are not exact as one might see fit and proper,
what can my expectations be? the happenings in our society is a reflection of bad
governanace, what diference is an armed robber and a kidnapper? my take is
fix the society and such vices will be reduced drastically.Odimegwu supported
Obasanjo's failed third term project with money and vigour, maybe this is the
time to throw some cash around to yet another infamous project.
while I condole the driver's family.

Pk001:

Yaradua has no right to dictate whether Jonathan should remain in office or not, because he wasn't the the one that made him acting President. The only thing he can do is to write the house of assembly informing  them that he has fully recovered. It is  only the national assembly that will return him back as president after receiving the letter. Goodluck Jonathan remains President till that is done!!

I wonder why anyone would want Goodluck to hussle for power, you said it all
the national assembly and FEC has the final say here, if they decides not to for obvious reasons
like greed and flowing naira then we continue with the status quo whether favourable or not am indifferent.
what difference is between Goodluck and Yar adua anyway?

The Igbo man’s lost to the civil war with the state was colossal both in human and capital resources, as a result of the war he is today more ingenious, hardworking and enterprising in trading than any of the major tribes in Nigeria. The only problem I have with them is their quest for money at all cost (some will say all tribes like money, yes! but the Igbo man traders ‘quest is annoying). You and I even fellow Ibos would have fallen victim to their desire and thirst to make money by all means legally or illegally. The Igbo man will sell a fake product in the place of genuine, will ask you to buy a shirt that doesn’t fit and advise you to wear a jacket to cover it, he will draw tape when measuring yards of cloth, once your money gets to his hand you will have to apply all means to persuade to have your money back whenever your transaction turns bad, hence you are faced with a diseconomy. Deceit is the only tool of trading.
Majority of the Igbo traders lack courtesy,  they would pull and drag you to buy from them this can be very  irritating and annoying, by so doing harass female shoppers and steal from them as practiced in Tejuosho, Oshodi and the Lagos Island markets. My childhood best friend is Igbo and he lost that appellation when he attempted to cheat me in a business I owed 100% his involvement was to help me feel secured since I was dealing with his kinsmen but he betrayed the trust the rest is history.
Please you can crucify me if you like; I wish the civil war succeeded so we would not be faced with these cheats.

@ moderator
It will interest you to know that as a comrado (that is non member) you can not moderate the suprememost comradium
that is the abc of what all the kariable entities are frowning at.

@ all karid entities
This is archieval chief of ilya Bensu, may you all walk and neva stumble, manya.

talknafree:

Also read this in another thread


“I have been such a great lover of men all my life. I found out men are like the jelly fish! You need not add any seasoning to them you savor them as they are. I do disagree with my women folk when they say “men are the same” I believe every man is bestowed with unique attributes because they are beautifully made by God. I hate it when women lie to them, deceive,  and keep a sizeable number of them at a time. All a woman need to do is pamper him, understand him and forgive him  all times.”

now you are jealous

edoyad:

Ofcourse like other naija leaders he was bad, but the thing is name one leader better than him ?

Guy!! the question did not ask us to compare him with other thieves before or after him,

I remember watching the fabulous 'tales by moonlight' while in my teens, Aunty would start with
''Story Story'' and the children will respond with a shout of "Story",
This is another Tales by 'Arabian light', just another fabulous one coming from a diplomat.

The question by the poster: Is Former President Obasanjo Really Bad? The word “really “ Confirms that Obasanjo is bad but to what degree, extent, he seeks to find a grade of how bad he was? His quest for answers to this question is borne out of the fact that he has been hearing or reading from generality of Nigerians and probably non Nigerians that Obasanjo wasted eight years of our nation existence.
What respondents need to do now is to help the poster answer the question without going off on a tangent. And without resorting to abuses and insults.
To the question I say YES he is really bad.
Why, because he, as earlier been compared with Hitler was ruthless with his own people as against Hitler‘s. His policies were nice on paper and you could actually see the growth indices but not in practical or physical appraisals, poverty was still alarming, the health, education, infrastructure, security, and power sectors went down drastically and corruption was rife am not comparing his government with any other because the poster’s question do not seek to put him side by side any past thieve.
He conducted a hoax election and imposed his choice on us, yes people would say he had a good foreign policy I agree, that’s why he single handedly sold Bakassi to Cameroun (he practiced that policy because he wanted to be UN Sec. General).
I can go on and on but these reasons above should suffice.

@ Poster
You definitely would/should have a stand on any topic as I do concerning Ribadu.
You should allow people ventilation to express their opinions and not just wish them away.
He was the police lawyer in 2000(before being made EFCC chairman in 2003)who was prosecuting Julius Makanjuola former Perm Sec Min. of defence and (OBJ'S cousin) on corruption charges involving 400 million naira, the outcome of the case is moribund till date he was ‘arm twisted’ of course by his boss to continue same thereafter .
He undermined the constitution several times by removing governors with less than the prescribed 2/3 majority of the house as required by law. He said 31 governors were corrupt will prosecute them after imunuity clause was removed only 5 anti third term governors were eventually taken to court.
Ribadu was a witch-hunting tool in the hand of Obj who was only interested in Obj’s enemies (I will repeat regardless of how anyone feels) who pilfer our resources for self gain, Ribadu for sure was feared by all, he had too much power and exerted too much authority that he thought it was ‘game’ as usual after his master OBJ left office (as exhibited in his insubordination that led to his dismissal) but Yar Adua came with his ‘due process’.
My grudge with him is that he was not thorough but biased and selective hence made nonsense of any efforts he made to tackle corruption.
He is definitely on the wrong side of History because he lacked the moral quality a true corruption crusader exhibits!!! I would have respected him if he came out to confess that his boss was hindering his work, but he chooses to remain and do the dirty work for OBJ. Now he is a fugitive.

Good news!! he is overspent already, more to go soonest!!!

You should try to teach them to say hello and mingle, or are you guilty of same?

Forget it, marriage is over! But she is forgiven.

Amigoz:

If he wishes yes. . . . .and vice versa. . . .

what works for one family, does not necessarily work for the other. .  . . .

as long as bills are being paid . . . .

Thank you for your objective post what is one man food
is another man's poison,

NSNA:

He is respected internationally

Am sorry you all are nothing but a.g.i.p you must have made a fortune from patronsing OBJ
at the expense of the commonwealth of generality of Nigerians,
Go ahead continue to sing his praises he needs it afterall, I understand you all better now!!!

Nwaka77:

@ Poster

No keep it a secret! Do you see why I said that most Naija marraiges are scams? If you don't trust someone and want to keep secrets, why marry them in the first place? A real man will not ask this question, only BOYS will!

Having seen your past posts as it relate to men issues and your prayer points , I concluded that you are a victim of a marriage turned soar hence your propensity to insult and disparage Naija men.
dont worry too much, am praying for you here too,

OEO:

I wl like to know if u are married?

But let me not deviate. I presumed yr wife shd even ask u, how much u are earning from yr job. Not only for her request but for other things like Savings for upcoming children, projects like personal house and finally for her to know where to come in, to help you or support you, whether financially or otherwise.

Pls my advice is, dont wait 4 her to ask. Tell her. I was saved so many stress becos my wife knew how much I earn, what the saving will be at the end of efry mnth for our own project and our 2children schl fees.

Pls dont make a mistake. Call her and plan together. That is the basis 4 u to know some things about her too, but if u hide and u r demanding submission and transparency, U wll meet wt waterloo, becos she wl refuse u even yr right as her husband.

THANKS FOR ADVISE, CHECK MY QUESTION TO DEDUCE IF AM MARRIED OR NOT.

where should we vent our anger on?
leprous PLAYERS, uncourageous COACH or an all influencing
NFA.

Mudley313:

nigga, will u just shut the f, k up n watch the game

All my tots of you since going through your profile?
''YOU NEED HELP FAST, LIKE YOUR BRAINS ARE UNDERNEATH
YOUR LEFT FOOT!!

Ghana will whip us silly!!!
then we will blame Amodu
as usual!!!

rebranded:

As much as people criticize OBJ noone has really thought of what he did for nigeria. i know alot of NL will not agree with me, but i believe he is one of the best presidents we have had
some of his achievements while President

- Fight against corruption was started - EFCC
- Nigeria was respected
- Our debts were forgiven
- The banking sector was revived
- Economic growth was seen (middle class created again)
- Introduction of Mobile Telecommunication
- More Nigerians in diaspora considered coming back home

I think a lot of us are just myopic and used to complaining we still need to give OBJ kudos for his achievements and putting Nigeria back on the right path.

about endorsing yar'adua pls tell me who else in the North would he have chosen

Please don’t insult our psyche with your post.
Are those items above the yardstick for development both in infrastructure and human development? Where did he leave our Education, Health, Power, Agriculture, and Purchasing power? Obasanjo had all going for him, enough funds from sale of crude which was at its peak.

Enough savings from debt servicing, funds from sales of government properties, corporations and interests, sales of GSM licenses. Willing foreign investors due to democratization of the country. What did he do with this entire colossal fund?
Fight against corruption was started - EFCC!!

He started by setting up ICPC and EFCC using the later as a political tool to witch-hunt perceived political opponents he couldn’t use the ICPC because the organ is headed by respected jurists whereas EFCC the understandable corrupt Nigerian police.

He promised to provide electricity like his boy umoru did and corruptly engaged stooges to prosecute it where the project land us? With immunity (to cover OBJ) being enjoyed by Imoke his erstwhile power minister now governor cross rivers state we can never get to the bottom of what really went wrong in that power project.

There was insecurity of lives in the Niger delta region he couldn’t do anything until the amnesty programme of his boy. unresolved Political assassination was rife in his government more within his party which he hijacked in furtherance of his do or die affair style.

The banking sector was revived!!
The banking sector was revived indeed!! With Sanusi tsunami in the banking industry we now know what Obj’s Soludu stood for as CBN governor doing a lot of corrupt cosmetic cover-ups for the banking sector which you now term revival.

Economic growth was seen (middle class created again)
How can you talk of economic growth that does not translate to an improved well being of the citizenry? Have you forgotten that the world bank catchy slogan on Nigerians living below the one dollar mark started with obj’s shattered years as president?

People in Diasporas are considering coming home if he fixed country provide power, security, infrastructure needed for development, proper fiscal policies, he didn’t provide them hence where are the diasporas?

Obj was not one of the best presidents and will never be except you meant he was the worst Nigeria ever had. See what the late legal luminary and human right activist Gani Fawehinmi had on him ‘’

[/i]His library which he launched on May 14, 2005 at Abeokuta garnered N8.5 billion. [Femi] Otedola gave N250 million; [Otunba Mike] Adenuga N350 million; [Aliko] Dangote, N220 million; consortium of banks N1.9 billion; consortium of oil companies N2.4 billion and so on. These oil companies we talk about, for eight years Obasanjo was the Minister of Petroleum Resources apart from being the head of state. No oil block was ever given to anybody without the connivance and approval of General Olusegun Obasanjo. He was more active as an oil minister than Mr. President.
This regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself.[i]