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Politics / Re: Terrorism: Mark Seeks Ban Of Almajiri System by aletheia(m): 9:30pm On May 22, 2013
mikeansy: I love David Mark.

He is one person North of the Niger who you can trust to say it like it is.

This is one of the root causes of terrorism in the North

Annoyingly a lot of them are not Nigerians
My guy...David Alechenu Bonaventure Mark is not and has never been from North of the Niger. Stop stereotyping anyone who is non South-west or South-East or South-south as "North of the Niger". Thank you.

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Politics / Re: State Of Emergency Declared In Borno, Yobe and Adamawa by aletheia(m): 11:12pm On May 14, 2013
lee007: Jonathan is the dumbest President ever, very ignorant Nigerians are hailing this decision, the basis of the declaration of state of emergency is already defeated if the governors are kept in power... THRE IS NO STATE OF EMERGENCY WITH THE GOVENORS IN OFFICE!!!

The irony is that you are actually the ignorant one for claiming that there is no state of emergency because the "elected governors are still in situ". You are wrong. The constitution does not empower the president to remove a sitting governor via a state of emergency. You cannot use the events of Plateau state under OBJ as a binding precedent. OBJ acted illegally and unconstitutionally then.

Don't be one of the "very ignorant Nigerians" who did not bother to read section 305 of the constitution before coming online to rant.

305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.

(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.

(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -

(a) the Federation is at war;

(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;

(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;

(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;

(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;

(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or

(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.

(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.

(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.

(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -

(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;

(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;

(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:

Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or

(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.
Politics / Re: General Buhari Is A Damaged Brand by aletheia(m): 2:23pm On May 08, 2013
I only need to point out two contradictory portions of this write up as an example of the specious reasoning that propels the mythomania and revisionism that under-girds the Buhari Messiah cult.

Prof Corruption: Buhari instituted counter trade...During his regime, counter trade and restricted imports gave rise to unprecedented inflation. Purchasing power nosedived and Nigerians became despondent.

So we understand that Buhari instituted counter trade which gave rise to unprecedented inflation that lead to general despondency. Yeah, right. Buhari is indeed not the one. General Buhari has successfully hoodwinked many Nigerians into thinking he is different, but he isn't. He's cut from the same cloth as the thieving, ambitious, coup-making Generals like OBJ, IBB and Abacha. An objective examination of his history, trajectory, actions and utterances reveals it so (The Curious Incident Of Mohammed Abacha: The Limits Of Mythomania.).

For Nigeria's democracy to evolve to the next level, we must put behind us the rule of rapacious military men, no matter how benevolent they may seem. We must build up our institutions to provide us with the rule of law and to protect our fundamental rights. That is what Nigeria needs in 2013 not the rule of a benevolent despot.
Politics / Re: Comedy Unlimited: Rochas Builds Freedom Square For Ventilation Of Anger by aletheia(m): 8:28pm On May 06, 2013
Sincere 9gerian:
...Freedom Square where people can go and ventillate their anger. He said any citizen that enters the Freedom Square will be given 5hours to utters any statement in anger or ventillate their anger on any given issue. Within those 5hrs, the person will have immunity but after the 5hrs the person will be on his own...

1. There's nothing basically wrong with this idea. We are not in China or North Korea. Public debate is part of democracy. You may want to look at [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner]Speaker's Corner[/url] on Wikipedia.

2. It would appear that you are trying too hard to discredit anyone that is perceived as a possible threat to Jonathan. Relax man.

3. Your writing style and circumstantial evidence does suggest you are the one formerly known as Beaf.

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Politics / Re: 2015: Merger Parties Pick Buhari by aletheia(m): 8:08pm On May 05, 2013
Interesting news...

One must needs recall an earlier post:

aletheia:
. . .A week, they say is a long time in politics, but several worrying signs do indicate that the proposed merger will fail to dislodge the PDP and its almost inevitable collapse will end up making PDP even more dominant.

1. The ACN/CPC alliance must show that it presents a clear change from the ruling PDP. Unfortunately it has not done so. Instead it proposes to lure several governors and house of rep members from the PDP and there are moves afoot to get Tambuwal to run for President under its banner. If this materializes it would be a Dilemma with voters asked to choose between PDP-old and PDP-new. Certainly a fair number will decide "the devil you know..."

2. That ACN/CPC is trying to attract a number of PDP bigwigs into their party is an admission that they realize that as things currently stand they cannot defeat PDP except they can find a way to factionalize and weaken the party. This is exactly the scenario that played out in the Ogun state gubernatorial election where the combined votes of the 2 PDP factions far outweighed that of the ACN. It is doubtful if this strategy can be replicated at the National level.

3. Despite all the noise about the proposed merger, we must bear in mind that it has not materialized. The legal requirements for party mergers are quite stringent. Each party must hold a special convention wherein delegates vote to adopt the new party by name. Unfortunately for the APC/CPC alliance the PDP has successfully outmanouevred them in this regard. Expect the APC acronym to be tied up in court litigation for the better part of the year. This is a distraction that the new alliance can ill-afford. By the requirements of the law, if the merging parties choose another name, they are required to hold special conventions to ratify that new name, thus it becomes an easy matter for the PDP to preempt APC/CPC by registering other parties with acronyms similar to any chosen and then heading to court when INEC refuses to register them. I have it on good authority that the ACN/CPC know this and hope to mobilize public opinion as a counterweight to the PDP's shenanigans.

4. Managing General Buhari's ambitions. Already, the esteemed General has indicated his interest in contesting the 2015 elections; and therein lies the bind. He is both an asset and a liability. He is an asset in that in the last elections, he commanded 11+ million votes, mostly in the NW and NE, but he is also a polarizing figure. If he is the candidate of the APC/CPC alliance, then they will lose the election for the demographic fundamentals have not really changed. In the last election, Goodluck Jonathan had 22+ million votes, twice as much as General Buhari. A Buhari candidacy is not going to shave off 5 million votes from Jonathan.

5. The lessons of the last election have not be learned by the opposition. Nigeria runs a presidential style democracy modelled after the USA and in many respects it mirrors that of the USA, even down to the drop in mid-term approval ratings. Presidential elections are won and lost on a state by state basis not on a regional basis. Thus the "battleground states" will be in the SW. The mistake being made again by the opposition is that they approach the presidential elections as if it was Parliamentary elections of the 1st Republic. The PDP understands this very well and thus knows that it can afford to come in second in the Presidential elections in all of the SW, NW and NE and still win the Presidential elections at the National level. All it needs is to just not lose badly in the aforementioned regions. And this brings us back to point #2 above: the best way to defeat the PDP is to divide it. How to do so while offering a clear alternative?
Politics / Re: BAGA: Journalists, Activists Lies Exposed As On-the-spot Assessment Report Revea by aletheia(m): 11:45am On May 01, 2013
nuclearboy:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/satellites-witnesses-counter-nigeria-denials-about-village-attack-that-killed-at-least-187/2013/04/30/d531261c-b1fd-11e2-9fb1-62de9581c946_story.html
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I followed the link. I didn't see any satellite images. There are too many inconsistencies in the claims about the death toll in Baga.

1. Muslims don't do mass graves, yet we are told that in the midst of the storm of war with many people fleeing into the bush, relatives somehow find time to dig nearly 200 graves in about 24 hours to bury their dead? Do you really believe that?

2. In the Weekly Trust Newspaper of Saturday, April 27, published eyewitness accounts basically corroborates the JTF statement about the cause of the fire in Baga.
Politics / Re: Again, Jonathan’s Approval Rating Takes A Beating by aletheia(m): 10:29am On May 01, 2013
Kamanda: Yes I agree with sincere9.
Meanwhile,@Sincere,I like this your other ID. Its Kinda cool.

Mr McJay: BTW, how did you come by the moniker 'aletheia'? It sounds like the name of dog food.
^
The least you both could have done is looked at my profile and post history to know that Sincere 9gerian and aletheia are two different people. But then I shouldn't be really surprised since hasty generalizations and conclusions based on faulty premises and limited information seems to pass for punditry in the politics section of Nairaland.



Anyone who has studied the nature of presidential democracies will know that you do not put much stock on mid-term approval ratings which do not signify voting intentions. A week, they say is a long time in politics, but several worrying signs do indicate that the proposed merger will fail to dislodge the PDP and its almost inevitable collapse will end up making PDP even more dominant.

1. The ACN/CPC alliance must show that it presents a clear change from the ruling PDP. Unfortunately it has not done so. Instead it proposes to lure several governors and house of rep members from the PDP and there are moves afoot to get Tambuwal to run for President under its banner. If this materializes it would be a Dilemma with voters asked to choose between PDP-old and PDP-new. Certainly a fair number will decide "the devil you know..."

2. That ACN/CPC is trying to attract a number of PDP bigwigs into their party is an admission that they realize that as things currently stand they cannot defeat PDP except they can find a way to factionalize and weaken the party. This is exactly the scenario that played out in the Ogun state gubernatorial election where the combined votes of the 2 PDP factions far outweighed that of the ACN. It is doubtful if this strategy can be replicated at the National level.

3. Despite all the noise about the proposed merger, we must bear in mind that it has not materialized. The legal requirements for party mergers are quite stringent. Each party must hold a special convention wherein delegates vote to adopt the new party by name. Unfortunately for the APC/CPC alliance the PDP has successfully outmanouevred them in this regard. Expect the APC acronym to be tied up in court litigation for the better part of the year. This is a distraction that the new alliance can ill-afford. By the requirements of the law, if the merging parties choose another name, they are required to hold special conventions to ratify that new name, thus it becomes an easy matter for the PDP to preempt APC/CPC by registering other parties with acronyms similar to any chosen and then heading to court when INEC refuses to register them. I have it on good authority that the ACN/CPC know this and hope to mobilize public opinion as a counterweight to the PDP's shenanigans.

4. Managing General Buhari's ambitions. Already, the esteemed General has indicated his interest in contesting the 2015 elections; and therein lies the bind. He is both an asset and a liability. He is an asset in that in the last elections, he commanded 11+ million votes, mostly in the NW and NE, but he is also a polarizing figure. If he is the candidate of the APC/CPC alliance, then they will lose the election for the demographic fundamentals have not really changed. In the last election, Goodluck Jonathan had 22+ million votes, twice as much as General Buhari. A Buhari candidacy is not going to shave off 5 million votes from Jonathan.

5. The lessons of the last election have not be learned by the opposition. Nigeria runs a presidential style democracy modelled after the USA and in many respects it mirrors that of the USA, even down to mid-term approval ratings. Presidential elections are won and lost on a state by state basis not on a regional basis. Thus the "battleground states" are in the SW. The mistake being made again by the opposition is that they approach the presidential elections as if it was Parliamentary elections of the 1st Republic. The PDP understands this very well and thus knows that it can afford to come in second in the Presidential elections in all of the SW, NW and NE and still win the Presidential elections at the National level. All it needs is to just not lose badly in the aforementioned regions. And this brings us back to point #2 above: the best way to defeat the PDP is to divide it. How to do so while offering a clear alternative?

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Politics / Re: Again, Jonathan’s Approval Rating Takes A Beating by aletheia(m): 6:46pm On Apr 30, 2013
Gallup looked at its figures for presidents dating back to 1946 to reach that conclusion -- and pointedly noted that President Obama for the last two weeks has been sitting at a 45 percent job approval rating.

Source

Moral of this tale? In a Presidential style democracy; presidential approval ratings are usually at the lowest during the mid-term point.

Anyone using this as a pointer to the outcome of 2015 elections is naive.

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Politics / Re: Rochas Okorocha Is On His Own - APGA by aletheia(m): 12:37pm On Apr 23, 2013
dayokanu:
Since Ibos have decided to follow PDP regardless of the non performance, I wish them all the best lets now show Politics is a game of numbers.

NW + NE Buhari has like 13 states guaranteed, Jonathan has like SS + SE = 11 states. Leaving NC and SW.

Buhari manages to ally with tinubu and sweep all SW 6 states that means APC already has 19 states. which is unassailble. If he now manages to add two of Nasara, Kogi, Kwara, Taraba that makes it a sweep


Same faulty maths that resulted in a loss last time.
1. APC will not win any state in the NC, except may be Benue state.
2. It wishful thinking to believe that PDP will not garner at least 35% of votes cast in both NW and SW. The nature of the rules are such that PDP does not need to win in SW and NW to win reelection.
Religion / Re: The Light In Genesis 1-3 Has Been Uncovered Here by aletheia(m): 12:13am On Apr 23, 2013
Joel.:
the last word that says the Word was God. in John 1 vs 1. in the hebrew text [/b]it was read in small letter, is like the “Word was god or lord”. do some research bro. there was mis interpretation in the english bible. the Light in John is the same Light in genesis. the Light of men. you have to do some research
Here we go again.
1. John 1 vs. 1 was written in [b]Greek
not Hebrew.
2. From the Greek Textus Receptus text: Joh 1:1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος και ο λογος ην προς τον θεον και θεος ην ο λογος

As you can see θεον/θεος (Theos) is most definitely not "in small letter".

Regards.
Religion / Re: Myopia Of Atheism by aletheia(m): 12:01am On Apr 23, 2013
Pastor Kun: In a mother's womb were two babies. One asked the other: "Do you believe in life after delivery?" The other replies, "why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later. "Nonsense," says the other. "There is no life after delivery. What would that life be?" "I don't know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths." The other says "This is absurd! Walking is impossible. And eat with our mouths? Ridiculous. The umbilical cord supplies nutrition. Life after delivery is to be excluded. The umbilical cord is too short." "I think there is something and maybe it's different than it is here." the other replies, "No one has ever come back from there. Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery it is nothing but darkness and anxiety and it takes us nowhere." "Well, I don't know," says the other, "but certainly we will see mother and she will take care of us." "Mother??" You believe in mother? Where is she now? "She is all around us. It is in her that we live. Without her there would not be this world." "I don't see her, so it's only logical that she doesn't exist." To which the other replied, "sometimes when you're in silence you can hear her, you can perceive her." I believe there is a reality after delivery and we are here to prepare ourselves for that reality....

FAITH <3 Thank you Ryan Garrelts for sharing this!!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT <3
As an argument against atheism, it falls short.

As a feel-good story, it does well.
Politics / Re: Governor Okorocha Flown Abroad After Sustaining ‘Minor Injuries’ In Auto Crash by aletheia(m): 9:51pm On Apr 21, 2013
Abagworo:
I dey laugh. If you understand what is involved in head injury, you'll know why he has to go abroad for further tests and not treatment as this report alleged. He must have done only CT scan which is definitely not a confirmation. Even MRI is not that common in Nigeria.
If the head injury was serious:
1. He would be in a coma, and
2. The long flight to Europe would kill him unless he was evacuated via air ambulance.

An MRI is not required to confirm the extent of an acute head injury, a head CT scan suffices. MRIs are not so common abroad either but I can tell you that there are at least 3 to 4 MRIs in Abuja - National Hospital, Garki Hospital, Medicaid and I think Echoscan (not sure about this last one).
Politics / Re: Anambra/kogi Border: 19 Persons Missing, 22 Houses Burnt In Renewed Clash by aletheia(m): 11:22pm On Apr 20, 2013
mimima: BUT what is wrong with this kogi sef. they are fighting ANAMBRA and TARABA state at the same time all because of land.
Typical SE cluelessness about geography outside the SE. Kogi state is not contiguous with Taraba State and so Kogi people cannot be fighting with people from Taraba.

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Politics / Re: Corruption Perception: Goodluck Jonathan Versus Bola Tinubu by aletheia(m): 11:14pm On Apr 20, 2013
Sentiments aside, Bola Ahmed Tinubu does have a history of involvement with dodgy funds.

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Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 5:36pm On Apr 14, 2013
0lumide:
Ask yourself how a very proud tribe will drop her name to adopt a name by another tribe? It's like as Hausas are calling Igbos Yamiri now and then Igbos will now accept such name as the central name for their tribe?
This is an emotional argument. It is tangential. The name is different from the people. E.g We are Africans but it doesn't mean our ancestors came from somewhere in modern day Tunisia (no doubt the thrust of this sentence will escape you).

Here are seven questions which you must answer to convince me.

1. Why does the name "Yoruba" not appear in the historical record before the 16th century?
2. Why is it that when it first appears it is used by a non-Yoruba person to describe the people of the SW?
3. Why does Samuel Johnson one of the earlier Yoruba historians agree that the name Yoruba is from the Hausa?
4. Why do other historians before and after Samuel Johnson agree with him?
5. Why is there no historical record either in writing or otherwise that shows the ethnic people of the SW referring to themselves as "Yoruba" before it appears in writing by Songhai and Hausa historians?
6. What is the meaning of the name "Yoruba"?
7. Why is it that I have posted references to support my arguments but all you advance is classic appeal to authority:
0lumide: ...I no go fit de argue my tribe with you. I know more than the average Yoruba about Yorubas. I'm not someone schooled by some books. I was schooled by those who know about Yoruba's spiritual/cultural heritage more than some westernized scholars.

Your claims are not verifiable, neither have you advanced evidence in support.
Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 4:29pm On Apr 14, 2013
0lumide:
The name Yoruba is more ancient than Hausa name itself. It is a corruption of Yohuuba a civilization which had their capital as Ubaidan (Ibadan). You don't know the history of Yorubas so shut up with your hearsay and bullsh!t stories cooked up.
And where is the evidence for your "Yohuuba" and "Ubaidan"? Fanciful renditions. Objective readers not blinded by ethnocentric bias can judge between you and I who is peddling hearsay and bullshît here.

I had already cited Samuel Johnson, who is a venerated Yoruba historian earlier. Here's another source.

The first use of the term 'Yoruba' appears to be well before the 1600, at least within some parts of West Africa, although not among the Yoruba themselves. Ahmad Baba refers to the Yoruba as an ethnic group that was not Muslim and hence legitimately fell within the sphere of those who could be enslaved. The term in its Hausa form (Yorubawa, Yarabawa), appears to be very old, the -wa suffix commonly referring to 'the people of', as in Hausawa and Katsinawa, the people of Hausa and the people of Katsina. The term is used in the Arabic writings of Usuman dan Fodio and Muhammad Bello between c. 1795 and 1812, which suggests that the term was used among all Muslim peoples from at least as far west as Timbuktu and as far east as the Hausa states

Trans-Atlantic Dimensions of Ethnicity in the African Diaspora. Edited by Paul E. Lovejoy, David V. Trotman, pg 16-17.

Thus several historical sources confirms the following:
1. The people of SW Nigeria did not call originally call themselves Yoruba
2. The origin of the name Yoruba is Hausa. It is the name the Hausa called the people of Oyo to the south of the Hausa city states
3. Sometime in the middle of the 19th century, that name extended to cover most of the people of the SW.

What I find baffling is:
1. How did the people of the SW Nigeria forget their own name for themselves and adopt a Hausa appellation?
2. Why some of them on this thread are raving because the name Yoruba is Hausa in origin? It's just a name, and like I said earlier we must distinguish between the name and the people.
Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 3:01pm On Apr 14, 2013
It would appear that the original name of the people we now call Yoruba was Nago. Yoruba was the name that the Hausa called them. The interesting question is : how is it that the people of SW Nigeria dropped their own name for themselves in favor of that of outsiders?

"In 1880, the Catholic missionary Pierre Bouche published Études sur la langue Nago ou Yorouba. In it he identifies a population of 3 million people on the “slave coast” who call themselves Nago but who are called Yoroubas by their neighbors the Haoussas."

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Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 2:07pm On Apr 11, 2013
Abagworo: Even though the OP's assertions are hilarious, I'd like to make a little serious contribution. Like I've always written in the culture section, there was nothing like Igbo, Ijaw or Yoruba ethnic identity until very recently. Most of these people consist of different peoples that were living in distinct clans that their origins varied. Take the Anioma area for instance, we had people living side by side who knew their ancestory from present day Igala, Igbo, Yoruba, Edo etc but when it was made compulsory to have an ethnic affiliation, they happened to fall into the Igbo fold because majority spoke Igbo as 1st or 2nd language. It happened all across Southern Nigeria where Whitemen would notice language similarities and map it as one ethnic group and then give it a name.
Exactly the point I made earlier which some people took offence to...

aletheia:
The problem with we Africans is that we are a people who have lost a significant portion of our historical heritage. We have forgotten who we were and the little history that remains to us has been distorted through the lenses of colonialism. Much of what we call "tribes" today are artificial constructs imposed on us by colonialists. Our ancestors intermarried, traded, fought themselves and even swapped kings on occasion but it is not likely that they saw themselves in such ethnically jaundiced terms as so many on NL do these days. Case in point is Rwanda: most people are under the impression that Tutsis and Hutus are two different peoples. In truth, they are the same people. The artificial dichotomy was deliberately foisted upon them by colonialists who elevated the pastoral Tutsis above the Hutu agriculturalists. One people.

We shouldn't be too quick to dismiss all that the OP writes. Here and there lie intimations and shadows of the history that has been stolen from us.

Good to see that there are still a few on NL who are able to objectively sieve what is written without being blinkered by ethnic bigotry.
Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 4:44am On Apr 11, 2013
Here is a definitive source...

THE HISTORY OF THE YORUBAS

From the Earliest Times to the Beginning of the British Protectorate

BY

The REV. SAMUEL JOHNSON

Pastor of Oyo

EDITED BY

DR. O. JOHNSON, Lagos

C.M.S. (NIGERIA) BOOKSHOPS LAGOS

First published 1921

...

§1. INTRODUCTION

The Yoruba country lies to the immediate West of the River Niger (below the confluence) and South of the Quorra {i.e., the Western branch of the same River above the confluence), having Dahomey on the West, and the Bight of Benin to the South. It is roughly speaking between latitude 6° and 9° North, and longitude 2° 30' and 6° 30' East.

The country was probably first known to Europe from the North, through the explorers of Northern and Central Africa, for in old records the Hausa and Fulani names are used for the country and its capital ; thus we see in Webster's Gazetteer " Yarriba," West Africa, East of Dahomey, area 70,000 sq. miles, population two millions, capital Katunga. These are the Hausa terms for Yoruba and for Oyo.
O pari.
Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 4:18am On Apr 11, 2013
shymexx: ^^^Go to bed and strategize on how to break the yoke of endless slavery that was imposed on your people by the culturally inferior fulani through jihad!! undecided undecided Your brain cells are obviously blinkered!!
^
I am not Hausa...you mørøn, neither am I Igbo (before you start chasing shadows). As early as the 700s, the Hausa were smelting iron ore and trading and had well established and recognizable city states. What were the people who later came to be called Yoruba by outsiders doing at that time?

Texas.Cowgirl:
Seriously, are these mofos using wikipedia as a reliable source?

Obatalo o! Wa wo nkan, lol
At least I have produced some references...which can be easily verified for wikipedia usually has lists of references attached to its articles. Where are yours, eran oko?

In any case, I have proven my initial assertion which was the name "Yoruba" originated from outside the people who bear that name today. It originated northwards of them and most probably from the Hausa. The only counter argument provided by some "Yoruba" NL defenders is veiled insults, who fail to realize that the name is not the people. Its just a convenient handle.
Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 3:38am On Apr 11, 2013
shymexx: [s][/s]

Did Yoruba start in Oyo??

Well, Ife started around the 5th century and this makes it far older than Kano..

Go to bed, mate!
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You are an idiøt. "Yorubas descended from Oduduwa who climbed down from heaven on a rope carrying some soil". Really, is that what you believe? What I wrote is clear enough but you are a prime example of those who see themselves in ethnically jaundiced terms. As far back as 9th century does not foreclose an existence predating the 9th century. The people who today are called Yoruba? Were they called Yoruba in the 5th or 9th century? You call yourself educated and cannot distinguish between the people and the name. History would suggest that the name Yoruba originated northwards of the people who currently bear it. Yoruba words have meanings but tell me, what is the meaning of the word "Yoruba". Please go and educate yourself on the meaning of historiography.

koruji:
There is so much information available out there - even with the difficulty of wading through the internet.
You learned it in primary school and see no reason to update your knowledge since that time.
Ile-Ife dates existed way before the 9th century.
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Really your knickers are in a twist because I said the Hausa kingdoms predate any that is recognizably Yoruba. And so you and shymexx resort to gratuitous insults. SMH at NL ethnic champions who cannot permit objectivity to get in the way cherished ethnic myths. That archaeologically Ife has been settled as early as the 4th century is not the same thing has being recognizably Yoruba in the sense that we have them today.

Wikipedia: The African peoples who lived in Yorubaland, at least by the seventh century B.C.E, were not initially known as the Yoruba, although they shared a common ethnicity and language group.
Wikipedia: As an ethnic description, the word 'Yoruba' was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th-century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba. It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively.
The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the language of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century. It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography.
The alternative name Akú, apparently an exonym derived from the first words of Yoruba greetings (such as Ẹ kú àárọ? "good morning", Ẹ kú alẹ? "good evening"wink has survived in certain parts of their diaspora as a self-descriptive.

The name Yoruba as a description for the ethnic people of Southwest Nigeria did not arise from them but was imposed on them from outside.
Religion / Re: Jesoul Can A Brother Get Frontpage With This Here Important News by aletheia(m): 2:34am On Apr 11, 2013
And BTW...the current situation in the Korean Peninsula is but a "rumor of war". It's not yet time for "WWIII".

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Religion / Re: Jesoul Can A Brother Get Frontpage With This Here Important News by aletheia(m): 2:32am On Apr 11, 2013
obadiah777: YOU DIE. BODY RETURNS TO THE GROUND. SPIRIT RETURNS TO THE LORD. THEN YOU REST IN THE SPIRIT WORLD. AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF REST, YOU RETURN TO EARTH AS A BABY. PAY FOR YOUR SINS OF PREVIOUS LIFE. THEN DIE, RETURN TO THE LORD TO REST. COME BACK DOWN AFTER A TIME. PAY FOR SINS OF PREVIOUS LIFE ETC ETC ETC ETC. THATS THE CYCLE OF LIFE. UP IN SPIRITUAL REALM. DOWN IN EARTHLY REALM. BACK AND FORTH LIKE A YOYO. BOUNCING UP AND DOWN
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Let's see...

Hebrews 9:27
King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

No reincarnation (repeated cycles of dying) in the bible.

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Politics / Re: Anambra Kogi Oil Well Controversy: The Igalas Are Descendants Of The Igbos by aletheia(m): 1:51am On Apr 11, 2013
Concerning the OP's assertion that the name Yoruba originally referred to a more northern dwelling people who were later forced southward into the region now known as Southwest Nigeria; there may very well be some truth to that. Has anyone ever wondered why the Hausa historians have always included Yoruba in the Banza Bokwai. We learnt this as far back as primary school in Lagos, and I 've always been intrigued by that listing.

According to the Bayajidda legend, the Hausa Bakwai states were founded by the seven sons of Karbagari, the unique son of Bayajidda and the slave-maid, Bagwariya. They are called the Banza Bakwai meaning Bastard or Bogus Seven on account of their ancestress' slave status. Yet, because of the first-born ancestor Karbagari they claim precedence over the Hausa Bakwai. These are:
Zamfara, Kebbi, Yauri, Gwari, Kororafa, Nupe, Yoruba shocked

Also bear in mind the witness that Old Oyo lay to the North of present day Yorubaland and the Hausa Kingdoms historically preceded anything that is recognizably Yoruba having existed as far back as 9th century (Kano is more than 1000 years old).

The problem with we Africans is that we are a people who have lost a significant portion of our historical heritage. We have forgotten who we were and the little history that remains to us has been distorted through the lenses of colonialism. Much of what we call "tribes" today are artificial constructs imposed on us by colonialists. Our ancestors intermarried, traded, fought themselves and even swapped kings on occasion but it is not likely that they saw themselves in such ethnically jaundiced terms as so many on NL do these days. Case in point is Rwanda: most people are under the impression that Tutsis and Hutus are two different peoples. In truth, they are the same people. The artificial dichotomy was deliberately foisted upon them by colonialists who elevated the pastoral Tutsis above the Hutu agriculturalists. One people.

We shouldn't be too quick to dismiss all that the OP writes. Here and there lie intimations and shadows of the history that has been stolen from us.
Politics / Re: Failed Business Model Brings Aviation Sector To Its Knees by aletheia(m): 11:17pm On Apr 09, 2013
Gbawe.:

It can be profitable for well-organised operators and with the right aviation environment. Ryan Air, a short haul operator similar to many in Nigeria, declared a profit even greater than at same period last year - and this is even in an economic downturn.
Lets see. . . Ryanair's source of financing is from where? The Irish government? Ryanair's business model is imposed on it by who? The Irish government? Ryanair's cost of maintenance of it air fleet is borne by who? Irish banks?

You are a disgusting hypocrite.

Ryanair is a publicly quoted company which was initially founded by individuals. No government equity or funds involved. The Nigerian airlines are privately owned and running in an essentially market economy like Ryanair. All over the world airlines go bust and Nigeria is not an exception. In order to survive the airlines know what they need to do.

Now stop trying to make everything about the politics of 2015.

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Politics / Re: Failed Business Model Brings Aviation Sector To Its Knees by aletheia(m): 11:06pm On Apr 09, 2013
Gbawe.:
The gross incompetence of GEJ and his '40 thieves' laid bare below. Tomorrow, clannish worshippers of mediocrity who do not mean Nigeria will come here talking of Aviation/Agriculture/road "transformation". GEJ and his Ministers are certainly shaping up to be the biggest 419ners Nigeria has produced. Hard to believe the abject mediocrities Nigeria parades as "leaders" in this day and age. Simply disgraceful.

http://businessdaynigeria.com/failed-business-model-brings-aviation-sector-its-knees

OP: Let me be blunt by saying this - you are a bigoted, evil, tribalistic and small-minded man hiding behind vacuous, insipid bombast which is boringly and predictably punctuated by twaddle such as "clannish".

The very first sentence of the article you posted, clearly outlines reasons for the failing aviation sector:

The air transport industry in Nigeria is on the verge of collapse, plagued by shortage of funds, high maintenance costs, multiple taxation and poor business models, among others.
1. "Shortage of funds" - these airlines are private businesses free to source financing from Banks and the like. If the FG were to extend a bailout fund to them, the likes of your will hypocritically lead the chorus line in vociferous denunciation of that initiative.
2. "High maintenance costs" - Is it the responsibility of the FG to determine the cost of aircraft maintenance?
3. "Multiple taxation" - Granted this is where perhaps, the FG can intervene but it unlikely that multiple taxation is the single leading cause for failure here for even in this environment of multiple taxation, infrastructure intensive businesses like Glo and MTN and others thrive.
4. "Poor business models" - Is it the responsibility of GEJ or the FG to draw up business models for the privately owned airline businesses. You are quite silly to attempt to suggest this even when the article you posted is clearly headlined "Failed business model brings aviation sector to its knees".

Clearly you will burst a vein and die of apoplexy should the current incumbent decide to seek a 2nd term of office and go on to win. Hence your desperation to spin a balanced and neutral article into a political polemic. Shame on you!

Oh and BTW, I am neither from the SE or SS before you retreat into your predictable whining about "clannish sentiments".

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Politics / Re: Do You Know Jonathan Is Not Nigeria's First President From A "Minority" Tribe? by aletheia(m): 6:33pm On Mar 29, 2013
@OP. Also add:

Nigeria's first and only Prime Minister, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa

Although it is widely (incorrectly) presumed that he was Hausa, Balewa's father Yakubu Dan Zala was in fact of Bageri ethnicity, and his mother Fatima Inna was Fulani. In contrast with the largely aristocratic ruling elite in the north, many of whose ancestry derives from royal lineage, Balewa had very humble origins. His father was a slave who rose in service of the Madaki of Bauchi.

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