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 Celebrities / Re: Photos: Brandy Shows Hot Bikini Body + Engagement Ring by anonymous6(f): 1:38pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
well congratulations to her, her husband looks a little like Denzel in a weird way |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: "Denzel Washington Ruined Everything For Us" - GQ by anonymous6(f): 1:29pm On Dec 31, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: This guy sounds kind of insecure. I didn't get it either but I do agree their maybe some insecurities with the guy, blaming Denzel on issues that is more bigger then him is ridiculous |
| Foreign Affairs / Re: American Senator Says "God Intended Pregnancies From molestation" by anonymous6(f): 10:31am On Dec 29, 2012 |
*Kails*: you have a point true |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / "Denzel Washington Ruined Everything For Us" - GQ by anonymous6(f): 10:28am On Dec 29, 2012 |
"This month, a book about why Denzel Washington ruined men's lives comes out ($22.95, St. Martin's Press). It's called "The Denzel Principle; Why Black Women Can't Find Good Black Men." We have three simple questions for the author, Jimi Izrael. GQ: What's the Denzel principle? And what's so bad about it? Jimi Izrael: Well, it's about the ladies always wanting you to be someone you aren't, you know? Sometimes, it seems as if they want you to be Soupy Sales or Nipsey Russell—admittedly, those times are few and far between, because they know no one dare aim that high, right? So, most times they want you to be someone else, someone they imagine to be swaa-VAY and debonair. That person is rarely a handsome intellectual, but most often a leading-man type of actor. I don't know who white guys get measured against. I think white women want their men to be more like David Sedaris. The sistas? Well, they think Denzel Washington is the man every OTHER man should be. And it sucks. Because, well. There's only one Denzel Washington for a reason. The world can probably only handle one paradigmatic black man at a time. Denzel inherited Nipsey's mantle, I think, and we are all the worse for it.. GQ: That's funny, because I think I was a little too much like David Sedaris for some of my ex-girlfriends. J.I: I could see that. GQ: But what do you think Denzel, specifically, represents to black women? JI: I think some black women—and others, including, maybe, your wife—look at Denzel as the perfect specimen of a man. He seems to be a man for all seasons, the life of every party. The dutiful man of lore, if that makes any sense. Prince Charming. Denzel Washington chooses such iconic roles—he never branches out and plays a douchebag of any flavor. When the only portrait the public sees of you is perfection, people begin to believe your onscreen persona is who you are in real life, as with George Clooney or Carrot Top. GQ: I'd say that white culture is too fractured for there to be one guy white women want us all to be. Are you monolithic-izing black culture by suggesting all black women have the same fantasy? JI: I'm not suggesting that all black women have "The Dizzle"—looking for a Denzel archetype. I make that clear in the book. But I do think when popular culture anoints just paradigmatic Negro male, many black women want a facsimile of their own. They want the black guy who everyone likes, not the one you might have to get to know and figure out. This makes it hard for many Ordinary Moe black men because the paradigm doesn't allow for nuance: Denzel is the standard and anyone with a personality too far outside the mean is dangerous or subversive and therefore, defective. I think everyone is generally scared of black men, for some reason or another. But everyone likes Denzel: we feel like we know him. We trust him to be our everything. Making one guy the It Guy makes black men easier to screen: if you are not Denzel or trying to be more like him, not only don't you rate, but there may be some cause for alarm. Simple. So Black women don't have any fantasy that the culture at large doesn't have: Mainstream America's got the Dizzle worse than anyone. Everyone wants a great black guy who is all things to everyone, A Safe Choice—sound familiar? Sure, we got Obama, but he's fallen victim to the Dizzle—he's flailing under the weight of everyone's lofty expectations. And if Barack Obama can't be Denzel Washington, then the rest of us don't stand a chance. GQ: I'd say that white culture is too fractured for there to be one guy white women want us all to be. Are you monolithic-izing black culture by suggesting all black women have the same fantasy? JI: I'm not suggesting that all black women have "The Dizzle"—looking for a Denzel archetype. I make that clear in the book. But I do think when popular culture anoints just paradigmatic Negro male, many black women want a facsimile of their own. They want the black guy who everyone likes, not the one you might have to get to know and figure out. This makes it hard for many Ordinary Moe black men because the paradigm doesn't allow for nuance: Denzel is the standard and anyone with a personality too far outside the mean is dangerous or subversive and therefore, defective. I think everyone is generally scared of black men, for some reason or another. But everyone likes Denzel: we feel like we know him. We trust him to be our everything. Making one guy the It Guy makes black men easier to screen: if you are not Denzel or trying to be more like him, not only don't you rate, but there may be some cause for alarm. Simple. So Black women don't have any fantasy that the culture at large doesn't have: Mainstream America's got the Dizzle worse than anyone. Everyone wants a great black guy who is all things to everyone, A Safe Choice—sound familiar? Sure, we got Obama, but he's fallen victim to the Dizzle—he's flailing under the weight of everyone's lofty expectations. And if Barack Obama can't be Denzel Washington, then the rest of us don't stand a chance. Read More http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/2010/02/denzel-washington-ruined-everything-for-all-of-us.html#ixzz2GQolnGwu |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: Some Blacks Insist: " I'm Not African American " - NBC by anonymous6(f): 4:17pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
eddy1977: The argument is very valuable. You have a point, America is changing when it comes to identification especially with more and more immigrants coming into the country. |
| Culture / Re: How Do You Raise Your Kids As Nigerians When Residing Abroad? by anonymous6(f): 3:54pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: That is unnecessary, my parents are Nigerian and born and raised me and my siblings in the Nigerian yoruba culture in America without tribal marks and we understand the language, foods and etc and have been to Nigeria many times. It is a 24/7 effort on the parents especially when the kids are young to raise your kids Nigerians once that effort is not there it becomes difficult |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: Some Blacks Insist: " I'm Not African American " - NBC by anonymous6(f): 7:41pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: "In my music, my plays, my films, I want to carry always this central idea: to be African." - Paul Robeson, 1934 All the power to him but some in his community are rebelling against that, especially in this generation |
| Foreign Affairs / Re: American Senator Says "God Intended Pregnancies From molestation" by anonymous6(f): 7:37pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
*Kails*: Amen, most in the republican party are turning to the party of crazy people and losing touch with reality manny4life: I have never wished evil on someone, perhaps, when his wife, daughter, granddaughter or whichever female is closest to him gets Molested, let me know if he'll stand by his statement. That is the only time morons like that will get it, I don't know anybody that will defend that garbage |
| Culture / Re: Why Do Nigerians Count Their Money At ATM? by anonymous6(f): 4:48pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Rapmoney: I have observed that Nigerians, including the highly educated, count their money in front of the ATM whenever they go to withdraw. Is it possible for the ATM to issue a customer an amount that is below what they requested? I believe this act or practice comes from the fact that we no longer trust one another talk more of our institutions. Corruption and fraud have been institutionalized in our everyday life. People have this lack of trust in the banks that the marchines might short-pay them even when it is clear that the marchines are programmed!!! You answered the question, Nigerians don't trust anybody with their money, and that includes banks to a extent because of the reasons you mentioned. So in cases they are short changed by the ATM, they can complain immediately, especially if the ATM is beside a bank affiliated with it but if is not then counting money in front of a ATM is a waste of time. For some weird reason I always go to a ATM beside a bank just in case, and I wasn't even raised and born in Nigeria, so I must add that I feel it is more then a Nigerian thing because I have seen Indians and some whites do the samething |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: Some Blacks Insist: " I'm Not African American " - NBC by anonymous6(f): 4:25pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
afam4eva: What are some of these African Americans even feeling like? There are Irish Americans that no next to nothing about Ireland but have retained that identity. So, are German, Americans etc.' Different strokes for different folks, any way you have a point but I feel the disconnect with the label african american is growing among Black americans because many Black americans don't connect to that label any more, and to be honest they have a right to because Africa is such a broad term and really doesn't say what country, tribe and etc they are from. It is like white americans saying they are European American, where do they go with that label. This movement is growing among many youth in the black american community, and the new reality. To me black americans can call themselves either black american, African American or whatever, it is their choice |
| Culture / Re: Nigerian Christmas Carols In Yoruba by anonymous6(f): 4:11pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
shymexx: ^^^^Same to you, the disappearing act... whatever shymmex  |
| TV/Movies / Re: Bond Vs Bourne by anonymous6(f): 2:58am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Bourne all the way, it has more realism to it then bond |
| TV/Movies / Re: Nollywood Movie "modupe Temi" Vs. Ghollywood Movie "why Marry" by anonymous6(f): 2:57am On Dec 17, 2012 |
lat55: I just heard about this modupe temi film, where can i watch it? http://www.africmovies.com/product_info.php?products_id=44924 http://www.africanmovieplace.com/store/home.php?cat=254 http://www.naijapals.com/nigerian-movies/Modupe_Temi http://www.africmovies.com/product_info.php?products_id=44924 |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Some Blacks Insist: " I'm Not African American " - NBC by anonymous6(f): 2:45am On Dec 17, 2012 |
" The labels used to describe Americans of African descent mark the movement of a people from the slave house to the White House. Today, many are resisting this progression by holding on to a name from the past: "black." For this group — some descended from U.S. slaves, some immigrants with a separate history — "African-American" is not the sign of progress hailed when the term was popularized in the late 1980s. Instead, it's a misleading connection to a distant culture. The debate has waxed and waned since African-American went mainstream, and gained new significance after the son of a black Kenyan and a white American moved into the White House. President Barack Obama's identity has been contested from all sides, renewing questions that have followed millions of darker Americans: What are you? Where are you from? And how do you fit into this country? "I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American." "I don't like African-American. It denotes something else to me than who I am," said Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina. "I can't recall any of them telling me anything about Africa. They told me a whole lot about where they grew up in Macomb County and Shelby, N.C." Gibré George, an entrepreneur from Miami, started a Facebook page called "Don't Call Me African-American" on a whim. It now has about 300 "likes." "We respect our African heritage, but that term is not really us," George said. "We're several generations down the line. If anyone were to ship us back to Africa, we'd be like fish out of water." "It just doesn't sit well with a younger generation of black people," continued George, who is 38. "Africa was a long time ago. Are we always going to be tethered to Africa? Spiritually I'm American. When the war starts, I'm fighting for America." Joan Morgan, a writer born in Jamaica who moved to New York City as a girl, remembers the first time she publicly corrected someone about the term: at a book signing, when she was introduced as African-American and her family members in the front rows were appalled and hurt. "That act of calling me African-American completely erased their history and the sacrifice and contributions it took to make me an author," said Morgan, a longtime U.S. citizen who calls herself Black-Caribbean American. (Some insist Black should be capitalized.) She said people struggle with the fact that black people have multiple ethnicities because it challenges America's original black-white classifications. In her view, forcing everyone into a name meant for descendants of American slaves distorts the nature of the contributions of immigrants like her black countrymen Marcus Garvey and Claude McKay. Morgan acknowledges that her homeland of Jamaica is populated by the descendants of African slaves. "But I am not African, and Africans are not African-American," she said. In Latin, a forerunner of the English language, the color black is "niger." In 1619, the first African captives in America were described as "negars," which became the epithet still used by some today. The Spanish word "negro" means black. That was the label applied by white Americans for centuries. The word black also was given many pejorative connotations — a black mood, a blackened reputation, a black heart. "Colored" seemed better, until the civil rights movement insisted on Negro, with a capital N. Then, in the 1960s, "black" came back — as an expression of pride, a strategy to defy oppression. "Every time black had been mentioned since slavery, it was bad," says Mary Frances Berry, a University of Pennsylvania history professor and former chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. Reclaiming the word "was a grass-roots move, and it was oppositional. It was like, 'In your face.'" Afro-American was briefly in vogue in the 1970s, and lingers today in the names of some newspapers and university departments. But it was soon overshadowed by African-American, which first sprouted among the black intelligentsia. The Rev. Jesse Jackson is widely credited with taking African-American mainstream in 1988, before his second presidential run. Berry remembers being at a 1988 gathering of civil rights groups organized by Jackson in Chicago when Ramona Edelin, then president of the National Urban Coalition, urged those assembled to declare that black people should be called African-American. Edelin says today that there was no intent to exclude people born in other countries, or to eliminate the use of black: "It was an attempt to start a cultural offensive, because we were clearly at that time always on the defensive." "We said, this is kind of a compromise term," she continued. "There are those among us who don't want to be referred to as African. And there also those among us who don't want to be referred to as American. This was a way of bridging divisions among us or in our ideologies so we can move forward as a group." Jackson, who at the time may have been the most-quoted black man in America, followed through with the plan. "Every ethnic group in this country has a reference to some land base, some historical, cultural base," Jackson told reporters at the time. "African-Americans have hit that level of cultural maturity." The effect was immediate. "Back in those days we didn't talk about things going viral, but that's what you would say today. It was quite remarkable," said the columnist Clarence Page, then a reporter. "It was kind of like when Black Power first came in the '60s, there was all kinds of buzz among black folks and white folks about whether or not I like this." Page liked it — he still uses it interchangeably with black — and sees an advantage to changing names. "If we couldn't control anything else, at least we could control what people call us," Page said. "That's the most fundamental right any human being has, over what other people call you. (African-American) had a lot of psychic value from that point of view." It also has historical value, said Irv Randolph, managing editor of the Philadelphia Tribune, a black newspaper that uses both terms: "It's a historical fact that we are people of African descent." "African-American embraces where we came from and where we are now," he said. "We are Americans, no doubt about that. But to deny where we came from doesn't make any sense to me." Jackson agrees about such denial. "It shows a willful ignorance of our roots, our heritage and our lineage," he said Tuesday. "A fruit without a root is dying." He observed that the history of how captives were brought here from Africa is unchangeable, and that Senegal is almost as close to New York as Los Angeles. "If a chicken is born in the oven," Jackson said, "that doesn't make it a biscuit." Today, 24 years after Jackson popularized African-American, it's unclear what term is preferred by the community. A series of Gallup polls from 1991 to 2007 showed no strong consensus for either black or African-American. In a January 2011 NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 42 percent of respondents said they preferred black, 35 percent said African-American, 13 percent said it doesn't make any difference, and 7 percent chose "some other term." Meanwhile, a record number of black people in America — almost 1 in 10 — were born abroad, according to census figures. Tomi Obaro is one of them. Her Nigerian-born parents brought her to America from England as a girl, and she became a citizen last year. Although she is literally African-American, the University of Chicago senior says the label implies she is descended from slaves. It also feels vague and liberal to her. "It just sort of screams this political correctness," Obaro said. She and her black friends rarely use it to refer to themselves, only when they're speaking in "proper company." "Or it's a word that people who aren't black use to describe black people," she said. Or it's a political tool. In a Senate race against Obama in 2004, Alan Keyes implied that Obama could not claim to share Keyes' "African-American heritage" because Keyes' ancestors were slaves. During the Democratic presidential primary, some Hillary Clinton supporters made the same charge. Last year, Herman Cain, then a Republican presidential candidate, sought to contrast his roots in the Jim Crow south with Obama's history, and he shunned the label African-American in favor of "American black conservative." Rush Limbaugh mocked Obama as a "halfrican-American." Then there are some white Americans who were born in Africa. Paulo Seriodo is a U.S. citizen born in Mozambique to parents from Portugal. In 2009 he filed a lawsuit against his medical school, which he said suspended him after a dispute with black classmates over whether Seriodo could call himself African-American. "It doesn't matter if I'm from Africa, and they are not!" Seriodo wrote at the time. "They are not allowing me to be African-American!" And so the saga of names continues. "I think it's still evolving," said Edelin, the activist who helped popularize African-American. "I'm content, for now, with African and American." "But," she added, "that's not to say that it won't change again."" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46264191/ns/us_news-life/t/some-blacks-insist-im-not-african-american/#.UM5zc6zAGSo |
| Culture / Re: Nigerian Christmas Carols In Yoruba by anonymous6(f): 2:40am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Merry Christmas to all |
| Culture / Re: BBC's Documentary On Ancient West African Megacities by anonymous6(f): 2:33am On Dec 17, 2012 |
otumfour: WOW! PROUD TO BE AN ASHANTI MAN post about your Ashanti tribe |
| Celebrities / Re: Who Are The Top 10 Most Beautiful Nollywood Actresses? by anonymous6(f): 2:32am On Dec 17, 2012 |
deewhone: regina, lilian, liz benson, chioma, genny, omosexy, stella,a girl dt acted in dear God, ini edo, grace amah. Abeg 4get Tonto and Mercy wow past 10, well ok nice list |
| Foreign Affairs / Re: American Senator Says "God Intended Pregnancies From molestation" by anonymous6(f): 2:31am On Dec 17, 2012 |
danjohn: He is not a Senator. He was a senate candidate. True my mistake |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: Black People In Africa Remain Under White Domination by anonymous6(f): 6:01pm On Dec 10, 2012 |
birdman: that interviewer is horrible. I couldnt get past the first two minutes. Either you interview, or you preach. But you cant do both LOL |
| Ethnic, Racial, Or Sectarian Politics / Re: A White Woman's Disgusting Of A Black Woman by anonymous6(f): 12:01am On Nov 28, 2012 |
jambogini: Dear Jaime, Interesting, but this article story was in a magazine, I think sister to sister magazine( http://s2smagazine.com/ ) a few Years ago(mid 2000's). All I can say is the article was rubbish, and the african american man who responded to her did a good thing. To me the first time I read the story I felt that the person wanted attention because the magazine she submitted the story which I think is sister to sister magazine is geared to black women demographics, not black men so I felt like she just wanted to get people pissed off, why didn't she post it in a black man magazine. Princess1982: This letter was probably written by a bitter black man who has been dissed by black women all his life and since when was wesley snipes married to a white women? I thought his wife was Asian. It all comes down to people just like what they like. Possibly, that could be true |
| Culture / Re: Abuja National Carnival: My Experience In 2009 (with Pictures)! by anonymous6(f): 11:42pm On Nov 27, 2012 |
interesting, i never knew Abuja had carnivals, love the pictures |
| Culture / Re: BBC's Documentary On The 'Bronze Cast Head Of The Ife King' by anonymous6(f): 11:49am On Nov 07, 2012 |
Horus: Thanks for the video |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 9:53pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: I understand that lol but to the point where people drop parts of their culture for the religion, any way it seems Islam has that affect all over the world |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 9:22pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: I am glad you are saying this Pagan, to me it is the truth not insult but can you explain why this is prevalent with the hausa's since you are Hausa |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 9:16pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
igbo boy: AMEN, it seems soome people on this thread dont know the difference between FIRST name and SURNAME name because the tribes in Nigeria are different with name identification depending if you are talking first or surname, and I asked the OP and he clearified it in the first page that he asked about surname and first name, so people need to just say how things are instead of crying wolf. To me hausa's win this prize because they mostly bear FIRST and LAST foreign names. |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 9:04pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
Gozzzy: Im not distorting anything, based on what you said it seems you are distorting the facts because yorubas rarily have foreign first names; if you see a yoruba with a foreign name it is mostly surname and they are mostly muslim, which isnt half the population(so I dont know what you are talking about). Most igbo's i have bumped into have english first names and mainly igbo surnames. I am standing behind what I said. Some of you guys like people to sugar code things for you because you are not comfortable with what you hear, not my problem. Hausa's take the NUMBER 1 prize for foreign names both first and surname foreign names. I already responded to somebody about the ijaw (since they are not that far after the hausa's with foreign names), so go read back again, and my statement. |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 1:48am On Oct 31, 2012 |
MacLovington: . True, forgot to mention the ijaws |
| Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears Foreign Names The Most? by anonymous6(f): 1:47am On Oct 31, 2012 |
Princessaleeza: Hausa's take the cake with foreign surnames, no tribe beats them in that, I never denied that yoruba's dont have foreign last names but it is small population compared to the ones that have native names based on my experience |
| Culture / Re: BBC's Documentary On Ancient West African Megacities by anonymous6(f): 2:41pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Thank you kalis and Physics, I'll contribute when I have time, working overtime so no time for nairaland these days |
| Culture / Re: Is It True That Our Differences Is Our Strength In Nigeria? by anonymous6(f): 1:53pm On Oct 25, 2012 |
Ayomax: Apart from the northern Muslim radicals, yup I agree with that. Let me ask you a question: Do you feel that if the Hausa'a, Yoruba's and Igbo's had their own country that it would have been better off or the same? |
| Culture / Re: Artist Joins Nigeria's 'cultural Explosion' - CNN by anonymous6(f): 1:36pm On Oct 25, 2012 |
shymexx: Praising this pseudo-cultural evolution shows everything wrong with Africa... Yes it is true we have a rich and great culture in Nigeria but I feel this extra stuff as you say strengths it in a way |
| Politics / Re: Lagos Ranked As Most Innovative City In Africa, Followed By Cape Town. by anonymous6(f): 1:32pm On Oct 25, 2012 |
Paul John: Good news, I am not surprised though since what Governor Fashola has been doing there has been nothing short of excellent But Lagos has always been one of the top cities in Africa any way 1 Like |
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