Nairaland Forum

It hurts to see africans arguing about the white mans land. I mean, the brits colonised ur ancestors, brainwashed, killed and maltreated them. Oh now, u live there tryna claim u're better off than a fellow african staying in the US.

And y'all staying in the US, didn't u read about Richard Wright? Have u forgotten that ur ancestors worked as slaves and went through hell in the hands of slave-owners? Don't you know that u wouldn't be there if home's govt hadn't fail?

Who cares whether u're balling in UK or US? A nigerian is involved here. Whether u stay in Doha, Geneva, Tokyo or Stockholm. A NIGERIAN beheaded a british soldier in his country.

Its like comparing an Indian in Durban to those in Philadelphia. Who cares where he lives and how Philly is more prosperous than Durban? He's still an Indian in the eyes of the world.

Africans with their unnecessary ego that secretly lurks in inferiority complex. Colo-mentality!

SMH.


Frawzey

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I'm less concerned with what NEF says or does to the government, anybody can file a complaint with the international court. They have raised some points which I will not support until have an evidence to back it up. And why is it now that the wanna file the complaint? Where were they when BH members were killing innocent people?

Anyway, my questions are these:

1) why are those PDP senators, caught red-handed with BH members, still free?

2) why hasn't anyone of these BH been tried and sentenced?

A serious war against BH should not take anything for granted. It was even an Hausa President, Late Yar'adua, who killed their leader so I cant't understand why GEJ is not brave enough to detain those senators. Yesterday the President also ordered the release of the dreaded group. Honestly, Something fishy is really going on here.

All over the media, these senators have been replaced with Buhari. Even here on NL, without proofs, everyone calls Buhari a sponsor. Are they really playing games with Nigerians, knowing that a large number of us vote based on emotions/sympathy ?

And all u presidential spokesmen, don't come here to saying that the president knows what he's doing. Same thing u said when he granted Alams pardon.


Frawzey

mr.official:
Buhari sometimes shows desperation in his presidential ambition.

Oh I see. Show me a politician and I will show u a desperate man.

OBJ said 3rd term agenda was do-or-die affair.

GEJ is kicking Amaechi's butt all because of 2015, spending as much as 2bn on OPC.

Ojukwu contested THREE times under APGA to become a president of the country he fought against....until he went to the grave.

Buhari is contesting the FOURTH damned time just for the same position. Just show me one politician that's not desperate.


Frawzey

Emotions all over the thread...

The House Republicans have been calling for the Impeachment of Obama since the IRS scandal. That's what u expect from opposition parties. Obamacare thats meant to help the poor was also critcised by the Republicans. What about the gun control that republicans opposed till the end? Even where lives are involved. The beauty of democracy comes from harsh criticism and propaganda. Who else do u expect to say such if not Buhari?

Quit pouring emotions on here where reason could be used.

Bakare has also said it, so? What if Tinubu says it tomorrow?

And to those bigoted folks, a southerner is the Chairman of CPC. Quit all these emotional labeling without proofs.


Frawzey

Hectic! Cooling off in other sections. Correction/retracement in Dollar this week making me stay on the sideline.

Meanwhile, fib 113% is also recommended on traders Fib tool. Incase anyone is yet to add it, please do. Noticed somany reversals at that point.


Frawzey

Sincere 9gerian: I dont see anything wrong with releasing women and children. In fact, women and children shouldn't have been detained in the first place because many of them dont even know what their husbands are engaged in. Again, this strategy will help the security forces win more souls in the north in the war against terror. The more people we have on the side of sanity and peace, the better. The indisputable fact is that insurgency cannot be defeated with stick alone. We also need carrots and dialogue[b]I dont see anything wrong with releasing women and children. In fact, women and children shouldn't have been detained in the first place[/b] The release of detained women and children is part of the carrot. In the end, what we need is PEACE.

Only those read the caption will agree with what u wrote here. The sad thing is that u have become a professional in playing mind games on this forum and folks have fallen for it. Let me bust your nine on this one. You wrote "I dont see anything wrong with releasing women and children. In fact, women and children shouldn't have been detained in the first place" as if those to be released are only women and children.

Now read the bolded below:

The Director of Defence Information, Brig-Gen. Chris Olukolade, said in a statement that the decision to release the suspected terrorists was based on the directives of President Goodluck Jonathan.[/b]

Suspected terrorists was clearly stated here without any gender.

“The measure which is in line with presidential magnanimity to enhance peace efforts in the country will result in freedom for suspects, including all women under custody.

Then the suspects that was said in the earlier statement PLUS all women under custody. We have the suspects and some women under custody.

Only an illiterate will agree with your post. Women and children indeed. Your insincerity is very bullish, Mr Sincere 9gerian.


Frawzey

Urgh. It grosses me out when someone who's a member of a team takes all the glory for a job/project well executed. Pride, undeserved glory is rife here. That's why u're more likely to hear "I" instead of "We".


Frawzey

Xano:

points one and two are good. We should work on them. Points three and four are your sentiments. Don't play politics. Don't use your speech to wash the head of readers.

Lol. Our political orientation may not be the same but the bottomline should be about good governance for the betterment of Nigeria.

@Frodobee, one more reason to believe in what? If I may ask.


Frawzey

Its not new. Russia also spies on US. I doubt if it would cause any friction in their relationship. Spying is an eternal game. China also needs to be very alert because the West wants her to practice democracy and spies would do the underground work.

Atleast, we caught a BH spy yesterday. Naija is on the alert too.


Frawzey

Not trading today. Still holding my AUDUSD and Gold short.


Frawzey

First off, the SoE is a welcome development. Although some people believe its long overdue but I prefer half a bread than none. Even the US didn't expect a SoE, that's why John Kerry said that the troops should be very careful with human lives...like they really care. Huh?

Second, we say our troops are fighting the dreaded Boko Harm, yet their sponsors - those Borno Senators caught red-handed - Senator Zanna and Ali are still walking free around town like a philanthropist. If the IG is soft of them probably because he's also from the north, let the President order the Head of the Military to interrogate them. I can bet that after spending just 4hours in the military custody, they'd confess and name other sponsors of the group. This orange seller might just be a channel and not a backbone sponsor. Once access to money is blocked, gross weakness would affect their logistics. But the president turned a blind eye on those senators because they were not linked to Buhari. Politics!

Third, nigerians are just too emotional about national issues. Instead of taking time to think about the presidents declaration, all we see here is "Kill them all", "those northerns should be destroyed", "they should be gunned down" and other unnecessary statements. We need to quit swimming in the pool of emotion. Let's towel-dry our instant approval and reactions, then sit on the couch of logical reasoning. When someone makes a statement about our country, either good or bad, it doesn't hurt if we take sometime to think about what's been said instead of swallowing it all up hook, line and sinker. The declaration of SoE should not be an end but a means. A means to create the platform for a sovereign national conference. While the military has risen up to save the nation by guns, the civilians (u and I) must also use dialogue as a weapon. We must also press it on GEJ that he calls for a national conference to save the nation by dialogue. Let the northern PDPs come and make their grievances known and each tribe's representative should speak the truth about the state of the nation. Possibly all those northern PDP elites who have been silent about BH would talk, forgive and re-structure their party and the zoning controversy that magnified the problem.

Fourth, those who supports PDP/GEJ should call for federalism. If truly u want crises to stop, then tell the president that he has the power to change things for good in PDP. If he could use such power to re-structure the party to his taste, biting very hard on Amaechi's butts, then such power should be channelled to add federalism into PDP's ideology. That each state be responsible for its development, revenue and security. Waiting for monthly allocation makes these governors less concerned because whether or not they perform, money comes from Abuja. Buhari's CPC stands on federalism. It would solve these problems because a Lagosian would be less concerned about what happens in Borno and the FG would not be too worried about it.

Fifth, the problem of BH was caused by failure of northern military leaders. They spent years in power, yet they didn't ensure that their folks be educated. Unemployment, poverty and illiteracy is very rife in the north. We should learn from this: ethnicity doesn't guarantee competence. Don't choose leaders because they are from ur tribe. Vote for a candidate that has a proven track record. The north is unstable today, who knows what would be of the south tomorrow if we don't have a good leader. Aap!


Frawzey

django1: @ayox2003^^^ Aribisala is arguably one of the most intelligent posters on NL, but he's been AWOL on NL for a while, am happy he made an appearance on this thread!

Honestly, his points are flawless. Come-to-think-of-it, if civilisation started in Egypt- which is now africa- before the birth of Christ, then its very senseless to say the "Father of African Literature" died in 2013. Makes african literature assume a toddler stage. Even Igbo literature has been way before the birth of Achebe but the fact that we africans are poor record keepers made our past heroes and giant disappear into oblivion.

For a thing, Achebe did excellently well in his chosen field but saying he's the Father of those who passed his culture to him makes it very watery. Plus, because it was written in a whitemans language makes it "un-african".

Achebe is definitely the most popular writer but Father? Shove it.


Frawzey

aribisala0: So many people have responded without understanding what they have read,what literature is or what Wole is saying
First of all what is literature?
Traditionally ,for Europeans,it would refer to the "written" word/language

NOT necessarily written for Africans
http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/staffhome/siryan/academy/foundation/what_is_literature.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_literature


I realise there are several sensible definitions but a working definition for me would have to go beyond "writing" and focus on "RECORDED" which may involve human memory, or other technology than writing otherwise we would be saying literature is closed to blind people or that audio forms are NOT literature and if we admit audio forms do we admit performances that are typical of Africans and their use of language involving no writing?
These issues have been debated elsewhere and responding without undersanding these issues is just folly

I think the primary quarrel which many modern writers have with designating Achebe "father" of Afrian literature is simple; namely that it reinforces the European prejudices that there was no literature before they "civilized" us .Also it confines any works previously Not done in European languages to the dustbin and sells the idea we did not record anything before Europeans civilized us and our young people lose curiousiy about their heritage and accept there was no African Literaure till Achebe came along.
We have had literature in Africa for millenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebra_Negast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Sundiata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utendi_wa_Tambuka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_Texts


The stories of Kunkuru,Yemenibo,Anansi etc are ALL literature.


What about the Ifa Odus/Canon are they not literature even recognized as a Masterpice of Oral Humaniy


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpieces_of_the_Oral_and_Intangible_Heritage_of_Humanity
Does literature have to be written or can it be recorded and transmitted in other ways. Braille,audio recording, human memory and oral tradition.This question has been debated elsewhere.The context of Wole's argument as I understand it is "Africa has had literature for centuries just like Europeans and others" and so to designate anyone who is alive or even was alive in recent memory as Father is patronizing and wrong.The fact that white people did not know about our "literature" that it was written or not ,did not comply with their definition of literaure is irrelevant.


Let us take a number of forms drama and poetry. Did Africans have drama before Achebe or even before colonization? Does failure to record them in written or "European compliant" ways make them any less "literature" than Shakespeare etc.
Achebe's work is peppered with wonderful examples of ,in my view, literary forms,which clearly are ancient Igbo heritage that have clearly been transmitted over several generations. .So Achebe is not even the father of Igbo literature which has been around for centuries but a child of it how then can he or anyone be the Father of African literature. That is like calling anyone of recent memory father of African music. The objections raised to this title being given to anyone alive or recently dead is that it diminishes Africa because it says there was no Igbo literature before Achebe no other African language literature or tha literature MUST be written and preferably acknowledged and validated externaly. All humans even blind and deaf can access literature and have done for ever.

Genealogies,tribal stories and many more forms are and have been performed in many African societies for ever in complex ways that are uniquely "African" but in my view qualify ,too, as literature. Those who wish to call Achebe Father may try "Father of "WRITTEN ENGLISH" Nigerian literature but [b]even that may be argued as he is not known for drama or other forms designed to be performed. [/b]We must not forget that the African is ,perhaps, drawn more o those forms that are performed rather than read as many masquerade ceremonies(Even among the Igbos ) show.I think there is a very grave misunderstanding of what literature is and I agree that this unseemly argument impugns Achebe's legacy.

This post is the best on here. You are very intelligent. Any de-tribalised nigerian would agree with you. Trust nigerians, ethno-emotional attachment prevails in ALL issues.

God bless you for this. I'm saving ur post.


Frawzey

thoth: Lets try to look at this more differently, lets assume that Al Mustapha was betrayed by Abubakar whom sold out to the requests of washington to hand over to a civillian regime with obasanjo as the prospective puppet. Lets assume that Babangida also wants Abacha dead and therefore naturaly joined clique and provided human assets and assistance in there numerous tries to assasinate Abacha. Lets also assume that Babangida's plan of assuming power(whether directly or by proxy) was bungled and shunned by Washington for a more smoother and favorable plan so Babangida did not get what he wants afterall . Lets assume that the clique and not necessary Babangida realized their objectives.

If i say that the same team that killed Yasser Arafat are the ones that killed Abacha would anyone believe me ?

Done and dusted. You have nailed it.


Frawzey

Well, Nairobi is cool. Go to the travel section, there is a thread on Nairobi by Gallivant. He should be able to help.

Having said that, it would be advisable that u take a visit to Nairobi. Spent coupla days there last year. A dollar equals 82shillings and u could get a very good hotel for as low as 3000shillings (Sagret Hotels and the likes..), approximately $37. Food is also very affordable. Nairobi has a central mall called Nakumatt where u can get all ur groceries, devices blah blah blah. Cool weather as at November. They have the fastest internet speed in Africa. Really cool place. For 7days, $800 would be enough for feeding, hotel bills and the safari if you're a very big spender without a partner.


Frawzey

InvertedHammer:

Most times, we use them as contrarian indicators esp. Goldman S. My Top range is 103.30-103.90 with some room for Blow-off top.

Oh. I no know say GS aide dey NL o. How club tonight na? I'm mobile though...when I get home, I'mma check out the chart.


Frawzey

naijababe:

you know sometimes, I wonder if the 200 pound gorillas i.e. Goldman, Morgan Stanley and the likes don't just put out such news to 'chop' average Joe's dollar. It is the reason why I don't watch CNBC and the likes

Exactly. Especially make u come see one kind pinbar or inverted hammer for ur chart after u don read the story. U go believe say dollar won fall. . Like the daily TF of USDCHF, see the long hammer whey dey there...make one newbie whey just learn about candlesticks just see that chart before reading the yeye report, e go believe say him sell don dey confirmed by the BIG BOYS analysts. Cunny analysis like this, whey some traders dey believe, na their money all these brokers CE0 dey use go club for friday night.


Frawzey

infofirst: Morgan Stanley called the top in USD/JPY on Monday, recommending a short at 101 with a target of 94.00/92.00. They recommended a stop at 103.00.

Even the world’s most highly-paid foreign exchange analysts and traders get humbled by fighting trends and picking tops. Don’t fight trends and pick tops.

I also read it two days ago but I don't follow such news because its more of rhetoric. Anyone who sees the chart would know dollar is strong and any 'counter-dollar' signal or analysis is 419. Lol.


Frawzey

AUDUSD: Sellstop at 09789; SL:09852 TP :09622; (more)


Frawzey

elewedu: Whenever i see huge momemtum candles am always scared of entering the market. I hope with time I will get used to it

It happens to most traders. You are not alone. The thing is, if its a pair u are not used to, don't trade it and its not advisable to jump-in because sentiments can change at any time. Just let the momentum reduce and plan your trade as u normally do. Don't be carried away at all. The market is always there. Have a great day!


Frawzey

Kcc15, I thought we discussed about Aussie last-week Friday and u did promise to trade its break-out on the weekly chart. Ehn? Why then do u wanna buy aussie? I'm away from my pc now but aussie is very weak. Look am well oh.

NB, nice one. Shine on


Frawzey

Obiagu1: Today Chelsea became the first side in England and the fourth side in Europe after Juventus, Ajax and Bayern Munich to win all UEFA's top competitions.

UEFA Champions League
UEFA Europa League
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
UEFA Super Cup

This is history there.

Yes we finally filled the space for the whole of England. Now England can boast that an English club has also won all UEFA competitions (Courtesy Chelsea).


Frawzey

Afam4eva: Chelsea is a curse to football. They have successfully succeeded in staining the round leather game. I think FIFA has to come hard on teams that play negative football...I want to use this opportunity to congratulate Benfica for a job well done. They outplayed Chelsea today if not for the tragedy that is football. I await the UEFA super cup where chelsea will be gang r.aped by the team from Munich just like how Valencia bullied them in Paris last year.

Negative football? C'mon Le Ar'se thats been playing positive football, when last did they win a trophy?

Soccer is all about the glory and Chelsea got the glory once again! Blues for life!


Frawzey

naijababe:


No wahala. At least gold go pay salary this week na.

Na him pay my salary last week friday too when hope was lost. NB no worry, remember last year July, August and September? As e print QE money, e must repeat am this year. Amen, I claim it

Catch ya for evening.


Frawzey

naijababe: Knives sharpening for gold sell. Where are you ayox, i need to book an appointment with you o

Iya elepo robi, how far? We go YIM when I reach my trading office (in your words). Till then enjoy the Gold rush.


Frawzey

OliverPin: yh funny. this is how i view mine but I THINK the usd is too strong not to break this.

You're correct. Bro, be firm with ur words. ('I think' is not acceptable). USD is strong! I'm not with my pc at the moment but what I saw this morning points to the trendline. Watch Gold too. As Gold falls, Aussie follows. And the strength of dollar will weaken them all. Let's see how it behaves about that line, a sell stop may not be a bad option.


Frawzey

zinosleek: I just hate the way GU behaves at london open, its just so hard to predict where the surge is going. When i trade gu i feel like i am gambling.

Bro, GEJ has declared a state of emergency on GBPUSD. Military has taken over your trade and the kidnapping would stop, hopefully.

Enjoy while it lasts.


Frawzey

OliverPin:

Funny, right? Lol.

Check out the weekly chart on Aussie, u'd see the price is about to hit the trendline as discussed lastweek. Waiting till Friday to see how price reacts at that line.

Catch ya later.


Frawzey

Honeric, how have u been. Kinda been a long time. Hope no problem and ur Andrew's alert are much missed.


Frawzey