catoluy:
Igbos don't envy; if you do something right, we will commend you. Will afonjas do the same? Nope...all they do is envy 24/7!

FACT

When igbos see see something commendable, they give compliments then work hard to meet up.

But when some others ( no name mentioned) see something good from igbos, instead of copying it like igbos, they instead try to frustrate or stop it.

Anambralstson:

You guys might tax higher because Ogun state economy doesn't control by indegenous, unlike Anambra that the industries, markets are strongly control by indegenous. However IGR doesn't measure economy.
Let compare both with pictures, picture says lot.

Very accurate

Abagworo:


They maintain distinct identity from the others in same language group.

But this is where the major issue comes in. When you ask them what exactly makes them distinct from the rest, none of them can explain.

And when they attempt, it’s usually based on pseudo-history and outright lies that crumbles immediately once you examine it.

People just want to feel special. It’s because of the Nigerian environment that all those fake identity nonsense is tolerated.

BeachLife:
What are some examples of different values between Yoruba,Igbo, and Hausa?

Igbos value HUMAN Life, Education, competition, hard work, monogamy, meritocracy, level playing field, extreme need to catch up to the rest of the developed world in the 21st century, autonomy, wealth accumulation, and shared hatred for poverty. There are so many things about igbos I can break down for you but it’s will be very time consuming to write and too long to read. But what I said above is just to name a few.

I can’t with all honesty say that I see the same traits in the other two groups. I am not saying that individuals within those groups don’t have it but as a group, it’s a different story.

BeachLife:
Not only among different ethnicity ,but among different communities of an ethnicity or different states of ethnicity. For example , Ngwa vs Onicha ,Efik Vs Annang, Anambra vs Imo state , Ijebu vs Egba,etc.
That means even if Nigeria breaks up,there'll still be infighting within the new countries. I just think mental health should be given more priority. The people doing all these stuffs are mental.

There is constant argument within HUMAN groups that are similar even in communist China where 90% of the population identify as Han, they still argue online about their regions. This is just human nature

BUT do you know the BIGGEST difference between us and Nations that work well?

VALUES!!!! They share similar values.

In Nigeria, the three major ethnic groups have fundamentally very Different Value systems.

I saw what happened in your thread. Lol

Maybe you will start understanding why this country is not making progress.

It wasn’t built on a solid foundation.

If you refuse to acknowledge that fundamental flaw with Nigeria, then you will continue building castles in the sky.

Those who advocate for the break up of Nigeria are not this EVIL MONSTERS that are portrayed on Niaraland.

They are very rational and intelligent people who have had very deep thoughts about Nigeria and realize that it will never work.

Slowly you are coming to terms with it.

The most anti Nigerians of today used to fight for and defend Nigeria a lot in the past.

Including Nnamdi Kanu.

I was once hopeful for Nigeria just like you but I have finally come to terms with the reality of the country.

The difference between you and I is time and experience.

Mrexcell:



This is very impressive i hope they can be able to achieve half of what is in the computer graphics?

I have a strong feeling they would. The CEO of MIP seem like a very educated man with class and taste.

This city is the first phase of the Awka city Master plan. More cities will be built through public-private partnerships that will cover the surrounding undeveloped lands.

The city will expand in phases. This it just the beginning of the journey of Awka into a Mega modern city of the 21st century.

Some Renders of the city

rdokoye:


Kano State has a GDP (PPP) of: $21 billion
Anambra State has a GDP (PPP) of: $22 billion

Kano States Population is: 16 million (Estimate)
Anambra States Population is: 8 million (Estimate)

Kano State Per Capita Income: $1,750
Anambra State Per Capita Income: $2,750

Note: Those statistics are for the year 2016.

In 2010:

Kano GDP (PPP): $12 billion
Anambra GDP (PPP): $6 billion

Kano State Population: 9.4 million
Anambra State Population: 4.1 million

Kano State Per Capita: $1,276
Anambra State Per Capita: $1,463

In the past 6 years, Anambra's wealth has doubled (98%), whereas Kano's has increased by 37%. So we can see that Anambra is developing much faster. At 3 times the rate.

This is why Ndigbo should heed the call to invest back home.

rdokoye:


Kano State has a GDP (PPP) of: $21 billion
Anambra State has a GDP (PPP) of: $22 billion

Kano States Population is: 16 million (Estimate)
Anambra States Population is: 8 million (Estimate)

Kano State Per Capita Income: $1,750
Anambra State Per Capita Income: $2,750

Note: Those statistics are for the year 2016.

In 2010:

Kano GDP (PPP): $12 billion
Anambra GDP (PPP): $6 billion

Kano State Population: 9.4 million
Anambra State Population: 4.1 million

Kano State Per Capita: $1,276
Anambra State Per Capita: $1,463

In the past 6 years, Anambra's wealth has doubled (98%), whereas Kano's has increased by 37%. So we can see that Anambra is developing much faster. At 3 times the rate.

This is what happens when we Ndigbo stop being foolish and start investing back home. Look at Anambra’s GDP in just few years.

I think this deserves a thread of its own

Igbos need to have their own separate diaspora fund. Simple

Then use the money to match all the needed infrastructures denied to Igboland.

topboss1:


At bolded, wen will this madness end?

There appear to be no end.

The madness will never end. This is what happens when igbo denialism is taken too far.

Anioma people need to have a serious emergency meeting and settle this once and for all because they will dig themselves into a far much deeper hole than the anticipated.

obowo69:


Exactly!!!
These sentiments wont change online no matter how many pages wasted. My attitude this 2020 is to leave the igbo south southerners alone to do their thing. I will never spend a centimeter of my energy trying to convince someone to accept and be proud of their igbo ancestry and heritage.

South Easterners need to continue to hold their heads up proudly and most importantly have a razor sharp focus to develop Alaigbo. We need to turn the south East into a very developed region between now to the next 10 years. Lets not get distracted.

Ekwusigo m.

I totally understand your attitude. Dealing with identity crisis and denialism can be very tiring.

XANDERBOY85:


I’d like to refer all those Igbo deniers from present day Delta and Rivers states to take a cursory look at precolonial maps of IGBOLAND as the colonialists understood it to be! Just google it and get back to me on your findings!

Good. It’s always good to look back at that map I believe in 1929 before all the denials of the 1970s started.

It was created by the white men from their own interactions from different sections of Igboland. They are not stupid.

BeachLife:
I examined the audio ,plus a few order analysis . Ikwerre and Anioma are communities and dialects of Igboland.
I'll advise all Nigerian ethnic nations,especially the southern ones like Calabarians, Igbo,Yoruba,Ijaw,TIV,Idoma,Edo,etc. implement measures to foster more internal unity, and then they can all have a diplomatic discussion on autonomy or secession from Nigeria.
There are about 15 Ethnic nations in Nigeria and realistically none can secede alone. If at least 8 agree on autonomy, they can take the request to UN. I insist that there's too much internal squabbles among most of the Nigerian ethnicity,and that needs to be resolved as soon as possible.
Who are the main leaders of Igbo,Calabar,Yoruba,Ijaw,TIV,Edo,Urhobo? Certainly not Nnamdi Kanu or the Niger delta militants. You need responsible ,intelligent, and diplomatic personalities to represent the groups just like Nnamdi Azikiwe,Obafemi Awolowo and the rest did back then to gain independence from Britain.
I want Calabar (Akwacross) to be autonomous or secede from Nigeria just like Igbo want autonomy and secession. I have to go to there ,meet up with a few people and organized a few measures to foster more unity with clear goal of autonomy or secession. After that accomplishment,organized meetings with leaders of other ehtnicities. Igbos and Calabarians are already on the list , we need 6 more ethnciites to join the call for autonomy or secession. Though ultimately i think the west ,South,east,North ,Madagascar ,and central Africa should all be countries/federations with each autonomous ethnicity as states .

Now to address the rest of your point, the problem I have realized is that Nigerians are very scared of change. They prefer the current status over the unknown.

What you wrote sounds very good on paper but trying to accomplish it will make you lots of enemies and may even threaten your very existence.

Nigerians don’t like change. They may cry all day but the moment you try to make a change, you become enemy number 1.

The current system will have to crumble under its own weight first before any meaningful change can be implemented. It’s heading in that direction and the only thing we can do realistically is to wait.

BeachLife:
Ikwerre and Anioma are communities and dialects of Igboland just as Onicha,Ngwa,Owerre, , Nsukka, are communities and dialects of Igbo. In all ethnic nations,including Japan,Spain,Korea,etc,some dialects are more popular than others and the official language is usually composed based on that popular dialect.
Ikwerre and Anioma are not one of the popular dialects in the group .

This is coming from you an Akwacross indigenes that is not fluent in igbo language.

Now imagine how the rest of us that can actually speak and understand igbo feel when we hear these our igbo brothers (some of them) in the south south region boldly denying being igbo.

I feel ashamed on their behalf.

You cannot fool other minorities in the south south by pretending that you are not igbos. They are not stupid. They will play along with you if it serves their interests but they will call you out when it doesn’t. Eg: when Edwin Clark went against Peter Odili from being Vice President candidate for yar adua.

BeachLife:
I examined the audio ,plus a few order analysis . Ikwerre and Anioma are communities and dialects of Igboland.
I'll advise all Nigerian ethnic nations,especially the southern ones like Calabarians, Igbo,Yoruba,Ijaw,TIV,Idoma,Edo,etc. implement measures to foster more internal unity, and then they can all have a diplomatic discussion on autonomy or secession from Nigeria.
There are about 15 Ethnic nations in Nigeria and realistically none can secede alone. If at least 8 agree on autonomy, they can take the request to UN. I insist that there's too much internal squabbles among most of the Nigerian ethnicity,and that needs to be resolved as soon as possible.
Who are the main leaders of Igbo,Calabar,Yoruba,Ijaw,TIV,Edo,Urhobo? Certainly not Nnamdi Kanu or the Niger delta militants. You need responsible ,intelligent, and diplomatic personalities to represent the groups just like Nnamdi Azikiwe,Obafemi Awolowo and the rest did back then to gain independence from Britain.
I want Calabar (Akwacross) to be autonomous or secede from Nigeria just like Igbo want autonomy and secession. I have to go to there ,meet up with a few people and organized a few measures to foster more unity with clear goal of autonomy or secession. After that accomplishment,organized meetings with leaders of other ehtnicities. Igbos and Calabarians are already on the list , we need 6 more ethnciites to join the call for autonomy or secession. Though ultimately i think the west ,South,east,North ,Madagascar ,and central Africa should all be countries/federations with each autonomous ethnicity as states .

At the bolded, what was your conclusion after your investigation?

UdechiHD:
The only way Anioma can be liberated is if they're removed from Delta and added to the SE. Either as the 6th or 7th SE state.
The identity crisis many of us face in the SS is because we're isolated from the Igbo pride. Imagine speaking pidgin, instead of your Igbo dialect to others simply because you want to feel more south south like the average Ijaw, Ogoni, Urhobo etc. We are alienated from the Igbo identity in many ways, that it takes strong individual conviction to stand tall as Igbo. I for instance during my teenage age didn't really understood what it meant by being called Igbo, because I was informed that you can't be a Rivers man and still retain your Igbo identity. I was more Rivers man than even Igbo until my early 20's. You look around to the left and your neighbors are denying Igbo for political gains, and you ask wtf is going on.
The political loss of Ndigbo in national affairs seems to be dragging us backwards. Ndigbo must get it right politically and use their weight to liberate us out of this SS. The earlier Ndigbo insist that the SS Igbos are given states of theirs and added to the SE, the earlier the denial nonsense is defeated for good

Gbam! Well said.

BeachLife:
Inclusion is necessary for unity and progress,and avoidance of internal strife and sabotage.

The Igbo communities/dialects who deny being Igbo are doing so as defense mechanism . I see a lot of internal ethnic fights here about who is superior or inferior Igbo. If you say Ikwerre ,Anioma,or Ngwa are not real Igbo , what happens when someone from Ikwerre or Ngwa community ascends to position of power ? Do you think the individual would help or sabotage Igbo cause? I think the individual would sabotage and even deny being Igbo.
I observe this internal strife and sabotage in all Nigerian and African ethnic nations.

Beachlife, you are a newbie here. We have been dealing with non-igbo trolls with multiple accounts starting fake fights to disrupt this thread and so many other igbos related discussion threads.

In the past, we used to confront them but when we found out that they had the full blessing of the moderators on this forum, we decided to start ignoring the fights.

To an outsider like you, you will think it’s igbos fighting each other but it is not.

The only people that are deceived and engage the trolls are new people that just sign on to Nairaland.

mr11:
I didn't want to talk about anioma state here before some people here will think that I accepted Igbo because of anioma state but the truth is that anioma state will solve 95% of the problem.

This is just the plain truth.

I know some emotions are flying around here. But if Aniomas get their own state and have a better control of their politics and economy, the need to deny igbo or the incentive to deny igbo will be mostly killed off.

mr11:
Now let me ask you a question, how will you feel being deny employment and appointment because you openy accept been Igbo?do you that igbos in Edo state don't have good hospital and other basic things because of Igbo tags. urhobo,ijaws isoko etc are just waiting the day anioma will openly accept Igbo tag that day they will team up and tell us that we are not Delta,is even happening now that will have not openly accept. If you are from anioma you will understand what anioma people are going through.

This is why I believe
Anioma people need their own state. I still believe that it should be the next state to join the south east but some people think it’s a bad idea because of the on going identity crisis.

I personally believe that if Aniomas get their own state, then they can have a safe space that will enable them progress Faster and a conducive environment to solve the identity issues.

mr11:
Thanks for your comments at least its still show that people from east still see us as one in respective of anything but some of those denies has something to do with nature of Delta politics which people from east don't understand.sometimes you don't have to blame some people that denies Igbo,if all of us accept Igbo's do you think development will reach some area with the nature of Delta politics? even within anioma we see ourselves separately if not their won't be federal college of education in agbor,state polytechnic in ogwashi uku,state technical college in asaba and other separate developments we have gain separately. Ask yourself why did isoko always reject uhrobo tags.All those things are politics if you don't play it like that nothing for you.

Thanks I suspected as much. Same strategy is happening with igbos in rivers state although most of those rivers igbos took it too far and really really hate South East igbos identifying with them.

Yes it’s a political strategy and it is working out for you But it’s also has a strong Disuniting effect.

Me personally, when I see someone that is igbo and with igbo name, I get excited and try to know them. It will be very soul crushing if that person says loudly and proudly to me, “ I am not igbo”.

Some igbos have experienced this in their lives and it’s hard memory to forget.

Just know that the future generations of igbos may not be as forgiving as the current one towards people who display igbo denialism.

This has to stop sooner than later before the consequences become irreversible.

mr11:
so because that mad woman said so?who doesn't know that she's mad.you people comments here about Anioma is really disappointing.

Anioma (the beautiful land) is igbo and will remain so till eternity. I will not let those suffering from identity crisis change how I see my Anioma brethren.
BUT
For people like you that are confident and proud of your origins, you and other reasonable folks from Anioma areas need to challenge those pushing anti-igbo sentiments and suffering from igbo denialism and severe identity crisis.

The man who carried out the coup that led to the suffering of igbos today in Nigeria is an Anioma son and most importantly he is Igbo and we fully embraced him and shed our blood for our brother.

To later find out that some people from the same village that he is from among other clans in Anioma denies anything to do with the rest of Ndigbo, feels like a big betrayal to other igbos especially those from the south east.

pazienza:


Nwanne I fukwalu na Owerre anyi buzi so mma!

Ala-Owerre, Birikwanu o!

Owerre bu no so mma.
Obulu na aluo uzo, mma obodo aputa ofuma.

Owerri looking like some parts of Europe

Owerri Amaka

Welcome to Owerri
The Eastern Heartland

Credit to sanctity,prospect360,skybeetle,dikendike,ifeanyicymedia,IMO state new media and arinzeejikonye for posting.

Arinzeejikonye I will be posting some of those beautiful aerial views of Owerri in the Pan igbo thread.

I can’t help it. They are so beautiful.