Divoc19:
■ I don’t fight dirty Biko. The sky is wide enough for all.
■ If am not wanted I will continue moving until I start up my own business again. This is why some people get poisoned. I repeat. “Bad energy stay far away” is the motto of successful people. You don’t manage a self acclaimed wicked person. They don’t change. You won’t grow.

How does upping your game amount to fighting dirty? You are aware that your work might contain typos and even gave examples of how those typos could be used as a weapon against your performance. So, what does telling you to make sure to doubly proofread your work amount to asking you to fight dirty?

2. Now you are simply sounding like a typical Nigerian, always thinking enemies are everywhere when they are merely running from their own shadows.

Hanndye:
■ You had based your notion on the Bible and I asked you to to provide the evidence from the same Book and you couldn't. But now you want to go philosophical. That means you lost in the line of Bible truth.
'Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.' 2 Timothy 2:15. is an admonition from Paul to Timothy. Try and do the same. You will be glad you did. Peace.

The very pronouncement of Jesus Christ, the same one you pretend came to save you, are of my opinion? Yikes! So Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Word out of God's very own mouth is no longer so, according to you?

Yaa, this na definitely argument by pigheadedness at play here.
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Olorilolo:
■ Lmao . I'm not one of those who worship at that altar. Marriage is not all there is to life and you can choose to live however you want but my, does it add spices to life? Absolutely. I'll say again, for me, a good marriage is better than being single.
As for trends, people are getting divorced and married everyday. It's been the trend since forever, social media is only just broadcasting it.

The numbers have nothing to do with social media at all. Remarriage trends, even in the south, do not seem enough to counter the abandonment trends. It is partly for this reason that the Government in Nigeria decided it was time to criminalize marriage abandonment for good.

Olorilolo:
■ I'm in one. My parents are in one too. My sister is in one. Let's say I indulge you and I call marriage a business by your definition, Do you quit every business partnership because you have different ideas? Don't you make the best if what you agree and build on that?
■ Anyone is capable of being friends with people, for a long time, us capable of this so called business venture. And murder? Really? What's up with you?

You don't indulge me at all given that marriage has always been a partnership/agreement between a man and woman. Your denial of this fact is what concerns me instead. People quit business partnerships for various reasons and there is no law or reason why they shouldn't, particularly when there is no longer any benefit to be had in the union.

2. To get away with murder is an idiomatic expression

get away with murder
INFORMAL
succeed in doing whatever one chooses without being punished or suffering any disadvantage.
"some local authorities are letting real estate agents get away with murder"

joseph1832:
and live at the expense of your damaged kids? This is why oyibo kids turn out to be exactly what they are today.

Oyibo kids are far better than your Nigerians children. Ask anyone who lives in Oyibo land to tell you the truth.

joseph1832:
■ I'm actually admitting that the married, getting their heads outta their asses, and knowing the happiness of their kids, is paramount and far outweigh their own happiness is amongst the key to successful marriage

Essentially you argue that sacrificing one's own happiness and quality of life for the sake of the children— an idea which failed those before you— is the idea which you are still attempting to sell those of this generation even after they have more than learned that it is typically one of the partners in the marriage that does much of that sacrificing at the end of the day?

You are a comedian, aren't you?

Olorilolo:
■ In what World would one pick an institution where I'm alone over an institution where I have companion? Choosing to remain single is a life I won't fault anyone for but saying it's better, than having someone to come home to every night, someone who genuinely cares about you and calls you to check up on you? Discusses how the day went with you? Helps you to achieve plans , cheering you all the way? You have kids and then you watch them grow, together!
Like I said, you seem to either be using a loveless marriage as a yardstick or you just have a hill you want to die on and nothing can change your mind.

It is indeed hard conversing with folks who worship at the altar of "marriage is the only meaning there is to life". Sigh!

The numbers reveal that the trend is moving away from marriage. SInglehood has nothing to do with lack of companionship. It instead has more to do with choosing not to be married to your companion(s). Some single people choose to have children outside of marriage while others choose not to have children at all. others choose to have pets instead. The point is marriage is not as attractive as it used to be and that is a fact of the world we now live in.

Olorilolo:
■ Now this isn't a direct mention so permit me to jump on it. When you say suffering of the married, it makes me think you're using a loveless marriage as a yardstick...
■ Have you never seen a good marriage, of imperfect beings coming together, getting to understand themselves and becoming perfect for each other?
■ I've seen more good marriages than I have seen bad marriages and no I'm not going to count misunderstandings as a bad marriage.

Remember when I said stop bull sheet-ing, I meant it!

You bring up the issue of love here but what is love? Did you know that individuals, even those in marriage, define love differently? A husband's idea of love may contradict his wife's idea of what love is. We see that a lot. And this typically ends, in the African setting, with one partner suffering in marriage, while the other gets away with murder in the name of love.

2. Marriage is not defined by those few marriages you consider good. It is instead an agreement between a man and a woman. Each couple defines for themselves what marriage will be same as two business partners are meant to decide the details of their business partnership with each other. When one partner feels short-changed in the union, it leads to undue suffering, and that suffering is linked to the existence of the particular union. By, the way, there is no perfection of a relationship between in perfect beings. If perfection were possible, then a contract would not be needed in the first place between the two.

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In 1981, the divorce rate in the State of Plateau, Nigeria, was recorded to have been around 81% among newlyweds. in 2012, a report went out that the divorce rate in Northern Nigeria was among the highest in the world. Now, of course, these reports come from the North where divorce is respected and tracked. In much of Southern Nigeria where divorce is traditionally found, official divorce rates have notoriously been maintained at below 0.1%. This does not consider the rate of marriage abandonment, the acceptable form of divorce among southerners, and equally as high as at least 50%. You claim to have seen mostly good marriages than bad ones so my next question is where exactly did you see them?

Olorilolo:
■ Well, I'm not aware of this list you speak of. If there's a link or a book you can refer me to, I'll be glad to go take a look.
■ Marriage I know isn't perfect, but it's mostly beautiful if the members complement each other and If the competition is "Money"... I don't see a competition to begin with.

1. How can you not be aware of the list you quoted earlier when speaking on how having a partner to support one in old age when illness sets in was of benefit?

2. Bullsheet! There is nothing perfect in this world so saying marriage isn't perfect means absolutely nothing. Marriage, like every other business out there, is required to provide value that people can relate to—none of these meaningless pronouncements of no tangible essence. So long as it benefits individuals to remain single rather than be in a committed agreement that leaves them more depleted than if they had remained single, marriage will continue to decline in worth and value.

joseph1832:
now this is the essence of marriage. People like you believe there's such a thing like perfect marriage, when infact, there isn't. This is were you miss it all.

WOW.... Are you actually admitting to the fact that the suffering of the married tends to outweigh that of the unmarried in many Nigerian scenarios?

fawaz050:
The business image must be protected at all cost. PR Stunt at its best.

The woman is a lawyer so I don't see why she should not sue for defamation at this point. If this had instead happened to the pastorpreneur, his team of lawyers would have attacked her and her entire family for it.

Olorilolo:
■ I don't know what you perceived as "lies"... The fact that any of the spouses can fall sick? What plan are people making at the end of life? What plans could be more than being surrounded by your family and slipping away peacefully in their arms. Nothing beats that for me. You are right when you say marriage is not bound to give you these but that is when you're in a bad marriage.
■ There are good marriages out there, not one without it's challenges but there are good marriages nonetheless. It's a beautiful thing.

Look, the fact of life is this, people will almost always prefer to buy products that will be of more benefit to them than to others. Marriage needs to be of great benefit to both men and women before they choose to commit.

In the days of our ancestors, the benefits were outlined in the traditional marriage laws of the time. Those laws no longer hold weight in the society we live in today. People are less inclined to follow along with the old ways just because it is that. They now understand that the choices they make directly impact their particular quality of life and so many are less likely to make sacrifices for the good of others. This means the marriage laws or rules needed, including the guaranteed benefits list, ought to be updated to keep people interested.

2. Marriage can only be beautiful if what it offers is better than the competition.

TTPAAR:
■ Na wa ooo .. calm down na

Na so dem go dey use una head dey make money for themselves be this. Do these men calm down when you attempt to defame them similarly?

Olorilolo:
■ Well, it goes both ways. There's nothing silly about those reasons and my brain is fully engaged. If you run because of these, what if you end up needing them yourself. Good healthcare or none, no one wants to experience what it means to be alone in old age. Even in developed worlds, hospice is the last place anyone wants to be.

First of all, let's stop lying abeg! Hospice is not the last place anymore as more and more people make plans ahead of time so that they can get the best care in their last days in many of these places.

Second, most people are more than aware these days that chances are slim to none that another human being would go out of their way to show them that level of kindness even in marriage. Go ask the many who were abandoned by the so-called love of their life in marriage after falling ill. So, again, it makes better sense to argue for improving the healthcare system than suggest people are bound to find this level of marriage support.

BafanaBafana:
In summary what they are saying is that it is not the pastors fault. It is the fault of the woman.

And this woman is a Lawyer, abi?

UncleAyo:
Even this their statement showcase pride and arrogance. I am yet to see an apology to the disgraced lady.People should alway read out their own statements to themselves before making it public. What do I even know. What is Christianity becoming these days. Well it has always been like that.

If indeed the man lied, she should have sued him for defamation of character. If our lawyers can't stand up for themselves, what benefit can they offer others dealing with the same or similar?

Faposky95:
Is marriage a fact or the truth.......?

None! It is merely an option available to those who see benefit in it.

Olorilolo:
■ When you lose 70% of your sight to Cataract by 62, you'd know what it means to be alone.
■ When you're sick and the doctors tender investigations for your family to go and do, drugs to go and get, you'd know Money can't buy you everything
No matter what you see in marriages now, Money and all these plans can never replace a wife. She'll change your diaper, spoon feed you and tend to your wounds when that times comes. She'll grieve with you, rejoice with you, hold your hands on your dying bed. Don't let ego blind you.

1. You can get the necessary treatment for that these days. Ask why Cataracts is no longer as big of a deal in developed countries.

Abeg, stop offering silly reasons for crying out loud. These are all reasons why the Health system should be improved upon and not why a person should choose marriage abeg! Stop letting your ego do the talking for you without engaging your brain first. What woman would want to sign up for marriage given all of the reasons above? Na to run for her life she go wan do first.

Hanndye:
■ Am resting my case as you cannot provide an evidence to prove your notion, hence you have no proof. Case closed, isn't it?

WOw.... the famous argument by Pigheadedness Christians are notorious for using!

The invincible ignorance fallacy, also known as an argument by pigheadedness, is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion.

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rexchazy:
Better, they are afraid of Nigerian lawyers that will want to use the case for cashout

She should have used the case to cashout; that man would have done exactly the same to her if this had been the other way around.

Bacteria8:
■ That's why the religious sector will continue to prosper... because they're very good at "customer service"
If the pastor was to be a politician or a CEO like that strong head CEO of Erisco foods...they will rather die than admit that they were wrong, shelve their ego and listen to verdicts of public opinion

Good at customer service my butt! They are good manipulators is instead what this is. If this issue had been the other way around, would the same man not have sued that woman for her last kidney by now?

SeeWahala:
■ You watch YouTube, nnspd and whatever(s) too don't you?

That bullsheet! Tufiakwa! My mom knows that every time she turns on the TV to watch it, she will only hear me calling the man out for the scammer that he is.

cutecommend:
If people's first and best love was their spouses, and if the first love of their spouses was them, and if their first ever sex experiences was between them and their spouse in marriage; and the first ever sex experience of their spouses was with them in marriage. And if husbands are hardworking, loving teachable and kind, and wives are submissive, teachable and respectful, maybe marriage will be better...

Huh?

JustcallmeFavou:
■ How do you expect most marriages to work, when some marriages these days, has become transactional? Most folks are now getting married to strangers instead of to their friends. Some just want to get married cos all their friends are already married, and they seem like the odd one out.
If you ask me, marriage is beautiful. Pray to get it right with the right person, and who knows, you might have your happily ever after here on earth.

Mariage has always been transactional; even your forefathers were aware of this and established their traditional laws based on this knowledge. Marriage remains transactional to this day only now people don't consider it worth their investment.

Saying marriage is beautiful means absolutely nothing. And prayer has more than proven ineffective in securing one's investments in marriage, so stop prescribing the same old failed ideas abeg! Come up with new more beneficial ways to innovate marriage and people would consider it of worth again.

SeeWahala:
Don't mind BigYash I myself I listen to YouTube, nnspd and whatever(s) . . . do i have bad mouth? NO Don't generalize just because of a few. Just do your job diligently and leave the other woman to do her own. You will be fine Are you called 'patience' by any chance? Cos if its not your name on paper you'll definitely need to have it somewhere else on you 😏

A few? You must be joking!

Hanndye:
Case closed, isn't it?

The issue here is Jesus Christ — His teachings and commandments, God's Law — seems more of an afterthought to you than anything else. You seem to be under some idea that everything Jesus Christ said must be interpreted based on your ideas of what is presented in the rest of the New Testament— Ideas mostly culled from that which you have gleaned from your religious leaders. This is as opposed to validating everything else presented in the rest of the New Testament against that which was first spoken by Jesus Christ. Why?

Hanndye:
■ I had told you: give me an instant, where it was recorded, in the Bible where a non-Israelite was rejected and prevented from being baptized, hence becoming a Christian an you couldn't do that. Why!?

I more than gave you an instant! I gave you Jesus Christ Himself telling His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Gospel of Jesus Christ — to the dogs(non-Israelites) - Matthew 7 vs 6 - in addition to Jesus Christ establishing the fact that His Gospel belongs only to the Lost Sheep of Israel who His Father sent Him to - John 3 vs 14 - 18 & Matthew 15 vs 24. His disciples never took His Gospel to the dogs(non-Israelites) in following the example given to them along with that commanded of them by their Master, Jesus Christ. So, why do you reject Jesus Christ and His commandments is what the issue here at this point?

Divoc19:
I’ll start looking. I know I will find. Thanks. Kids are fine. Dad is supportive of them. This is a wake up call. Am taking it in good faith.

And when you get to the new job and find someone exactly like her there, hope you also intend to find a new job even then rather than upping your game?

vibbb:
Lots of people (Ladies) miss interpret the through meaning of feminism and that has been a major set back to family life. Once you are being infected with feminism virus family life tends to have no true meaning any more. Most women who are crusaders of the so called feminism don't understand the through concept and applications.

Nonsense!

HeatSeeker:
■ You need to be calming down aunty

Na so dem go dey use una head dey make money for themselves be this. Do these men calm down when you attempt to defame them similarly?

TTPAAR:
I think seeing all the measures Dr Paul Enenche of the Dunamis church has taken concerning the situation that happened with Ms Ayim Vera is enough apology. I advise we let the matter die since she has declared her loyalty and love for the pastor.

Nonsense! She suppose sue him instead or at least pay for damages to her image as a lawyer. That way not only restore her image as an individual but also establish herself as a no-nonsense lawyer. But then, do Nigerians want a no-nonsense lawyer or just someone who is on good terms with their gods of men?

Hanndye:
■ Tell me how they fast according to the Old testament.
■This is what the Holy Spirit says in the Book of Revelation (22:17): The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
■On Jesus part He had said: 'Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,' Matthew 28:19.
■If you like to know this is what had transpired :
Genesis 22:15-18
15 The angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven a second time 16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[a] all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me.” You still want to say something?

Why are these desperate attempts to deviate from the main issue here which is that Jesus Christ did establish that His Father sent Him ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel?

2. This is instead what is written in the context you quoted from the book of Revelations. Notice that the context of what is written is the same Jesus Christ whose teachings and commandments are recorded in the Gospels.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.[d] Amen. - Revelations 22 vs 16 - 21

The Holy Spirit whom you pretend spoke a different thing did not change anything of what Jesus Christ said in His Gospels. He upholds Jesus Christ, the one who told you in Matthew 15 vs 24 that He was sent by His Father — the God of Israel — only to the Lost sheep of Israel. Why you go all the way to the Book of Revelations for information to try to make a liar of Him is beyond me.

3. Here's the message that Jesus Christ gave to His followers in that same passage you quoted from. Note that the instruction was that His followers teach to those whom they are sent to all that which He, Jesus Christ previously taught to them, and this would include....

16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them.
17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[b] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - Matthew 28 vs 16 - 20

... the fact that dogs(Non-Israelites) were not to be given that which is Holy, and redemption as offered by Jesus Christ via the Davidic covenant does not belong to the dogs (Non-Israelites).

The World Jesus Christ sent His followers into is the same world that He made clear was previously cursed by God in the desert after which He then raised the Bronze snake - John 3 vs 14 - 18. That world consisted only of the children of Israel— the Lost sheep of Israel described in Matthew 20 vs 22-24—, and that is the same world that He sent His disciples into. There are today Israelites in pretty much all nations of the world, and the work He sent His disciples out to do is to gather them all back from every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of the world, just as described in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 33.

4. That passage has nothing to do with this here issue abeg!